Title: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 15 June, 2005, 05:33:25 PM
Post by: LARF on 15 June, 2005, 05:33:25 PM
Just read this on the beeb site:
Remain Pure - give it up for a week
This Saturday sees the biggest episode of Doctor Who ever, full of jaw-dropping surprises, amazing revelations and more Daleks than even you can imagine.
Up until now the episode's been kept an absolute secret - there were fake scripts, fake scenes were shot, and no preview tapes have been issued. It's such a secret that not even bbc.co.uk's Fear Forecasters have been allowed to see it.
But all that will change this week - publicity pictures will appear tomorrow, and there's a screening for the press on Wednesday, so stuff will leak out. Our best advice to you - STAY OFF THE INTERNET THIS WEEK!
Especially as bbc.co.uk is running a video teaser every day at noon. It's also shown on BBC One through the day, and at 8pm every night - so step firmly away from the television at those times.
You'll also be missing out on changes to our spin-off sites such as www.badwolf.org.uk, and one or two special treats on bbc.co.uk. Avoid them - they're only there to lead you into temptation.
So - we'll see you on Saturday evening after the last episode of Doctor Who Confidential (which contains a few surprises of its own).
We'll miss you, but it's for your own good.
Al I can say as part of my theory is: Clive
Remain Pure - give it up for a week
This Saturday sees the biggest episode of Doctor Who ever, full of jaw-dropping surprises, amazing revelations and more Daleks than even you can imagine.
Up until now the episode's been kept an absolute secret - there were fake scripts, fake scenes were shot, and no preview tapes have been issued. It's such a secret that not even bbc.co.uk's Fear Forecasters have been allowed to see it.
But all that will change this week - publicity pictures will appear tomorrow, and there's a screening for the press on Wednesday, so stuff will leak out. Our best advice to you - STAY OFF THE INTERNET THIS WEEK!
Especially as bbc.co.uk is running a video teaser every day at noon. It's also shown on BBC One through the day, and at 8pm every night - so step firmly away from the television at those times.
You'll also be missing out on changes to our spin-off sites such as www.badwolf.org.uk, and one or two special treats on bbc.co.uk. Avoid them - they're only there to lead you into temptation.
So - we'll see you on Saturday evening after the last episode of Doctor Who Confidential (which contains a few surprises of its own).
We'll miss you, but it's for your own good.
Al I can say as part of my theory is: Clive
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: pauljholden on 15 June, 2005, 06:10:37 PM
Post by: pauljholden on 15 June, 2005, 06:10:37 PM
Adam's Winning Entry in the Essay Competition
But aliens could cure it ? not because they?re gods, but because if they can travel through space, they?d have to have more understanding than us of metabolism, and the wear and tear of space travel on their bodies - well, if they still have them! So, they could cure arthritis.
(Emphasis mine)
I'm with the "Adam becomes a new Davros" block. Who're you fighting with?
- pj
But aliens could cure it ? not because they?re gods, but because if they can travel through space, they?d have to have more understanding than us of metabolism, and the wear and tear of space travel on their bodies - well, if they still have them! So, they could cure arthritis.
(Emphasis mine)
I'm with the "Adam becomes a new Davros" block. Who're you fighting with?
- pj
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Bico on 15 June, 2005, 06:12:58 PM
Post by: Bico on 15 June, 2005, 06:12:58 PM
The Master or Davros. Probably.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Conexus on 15 June, 2005, 06:13:58 PM
Post by: Conexus on 15 June, 2005, 06:13:58 PM
??how could he be the master??
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Funt Solo on 15 June, 2005, 07:06:36 PM
Post by: Funt Solo on 15 June, 2005, 07:06:36 PM
Someone told me that it's been confirmed (but they didn't say by who) that it is not the Master or Davros.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2005, 07:10:33 PM
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 15 June, 2005, 07:10:33 PM
IIRC, Russell T Davies has stated - on the Bad Wolf and Beeb sites - that *none* of the Bad Wolf theories so far are correct. This doesn't necessarily mean that Davros/The Master/the Silurians/the Time Meddler/Sylvester McCoy aren't returning, just that whatever "Bad Wolf" is, it isn't them.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: pauljholden on 15 June, 2005, 07:11:05 PM
Post by: pauljholden on 15 June, 2005, 07:11:05 PM
Ah, but Adam wouldn't BE Davros -- he'd just look very, very like him (at least that's what my monies on...)
- pj
(ps urm... even though a number of weeks ago I'd've bet money on it being the master...)
- pj
(ps urm... even though a number of weeks ago I'd've bet money on it being the master...)
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Bad Andy on 15 June, 2005, 07:23:47 PM
Post by: Bad Andy on 15 June, 2005, 07:23:47 PM
Maybe it's just a really bad wolf.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 08:01:42 PM
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 08:01:42 PM
its tharg !
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: MIKE COLLINS on 15 June, 2005, 08:05:22 PM
Post by: MIKE COLLINS on 15 June, 2005, 08:05:22 PM
How about The Face Of Boe?
Always getting refered to or seen, and a bit of a dogface...
Always getting refered to or seen, and a bit of a dogface...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Wils on 15 June, 2005, 08:09:35 PM
Post by: Wils on 15 June, 2005, 08:09:35 PM
Submitted without comment...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 June, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 15 June, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
Actually, Ecclestone's Doctor isn't really the Doctor at all, he's actually the Master who, having been sucked into the Eye of Harmony, has been given a new cycle of regenerations but, it being the Doctor's TARDIS an' all that's responsible for all this, is now convinced he REALLY is the eponymous quack and the Bad Wolf is, in fact, Paul McGann trying to usurp the Master-Doctor's control of the Doctor's TARDIS which, naturally leads to some have-some get-some between the two resulting in one of 'em regenerating into David Tennant.
It's bloody obvious. Oh. And there's some guff with the Daleks but nobody's watching it for that.
It's bloody obvious. Oh. And there's some guff with the Daleks but nobody's watching it for that.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 08:14:45 PM
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 08:14:45 PM
i will tell you all.... sunday....
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 08:30:40 PM
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 08:30:40 PM
Well, it'd be typical RTD mischievousness for him to reply, when asked if Adam will become Davros, to say 'no', simply because he won't become Davros*.
As stated, all the Daleks were wiped out in the Time Wars except the one Van Staten had. Adam is the only living person not in the TARDIS who remembers the Dalek, so it makes sense that he could - armed with 20,000 years of knowledge - create a Dalek army by using captured humans instead of mutated Kaleds.
* Davros was a Kaled, so Adam can't be him.
As stated, all the Daleks were wiped out in the Time Wars except the one Van Staten had. Adam is the only living person not in the TARDIS who remembers the Dalek, so it makes sense that he could - armed with 20,000 years of knowledge - create a Dalek army by using captured humans instead of mutated Kaleds.
* Davros was a Kaled, so Adam can't be him.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 08:32:05 PM
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 08:32:05 PM
I would also like to add that I have possibly spent a bit too much time thinking about this ...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 15 June, 2005, 08:39:59 PM
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 15 June, 2005, 08:39:59 PM
As long as Adam is played by a different actor, I don't mind him returning.... But please, PLEASE, don't let it be Bruno Langley...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 15 June, 2005, 09:09:06 PM
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 15 June, 2005, 09:09:06 PM
>As stated, all the Daleks were wiped out in the Time Wars except the one Van Staten had. Adam is the only living person not in the TARDIS who remembers the Dalek, so it makes sense that he could - armed with 20,000 years of knowledge - create a Dalek army by using captured humans instead of mutated Kaleds.
He didn't know a lot about the Dalek, though. Wasn't Van Staten's lot having trouble getting any info at all from/on the Dalek? Plus, Adam's job was in a different bit of the facility, playing with bits of space junk. He doesn't know enough to build his own, nor (probably) does he have the tech available, stranded as he is in 2010.
He didn't know a lot about the Dalek, though. Wasn't Van Staten's lot having trouble getting any info at all from/on the Dalek? Plus, Adam's job was in a different bit of the facility, playing with bits of space junk. He doesn't know enough to build his own, nor (probably) does he have the tech available, stranded as he is in 2010.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 09:17:22 PM
Post by: longmanshort on 15 June, 2005, 09:17:22 PM
I suppose, but he does possess 20,000 years of human knowledge, which would no doubt include knowledge of a variety of alien races - maybe even including Daleks. Also, who's to say these Daleks are identical to the one Van Staten has? If I was a betting man, I'd say it's still Adam. But I'm prepared to be surprised on Monday night ;)
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: WoD on 15 June, 2005, 09:23:53 PM
Post by: WoD on 15 June, 2005, 09:23:53 PM
LMS' theory is the same as mine, as is DeafandDumb Lad's. I think it's a combo of the two.
Except, they'll never do the master thing as it would require too much knowledge of the Dr's history. This does not apply to the Adam theory though.
Except, they'll never do the master thing as it would require too much knowledge of the Dr's history. This does not apply to the Adam theory though.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 15 June, 2005, 09:30:01 PM
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 15 June, 2005, 09:30:01 PM
I don't actually think Adam does have 20,000 years of Human knowledge. The machines that they used in the future wipes your brain, thus why he was recording it. But, oh dear, The answering machine exploded. I just can't see how he's ever going to retrieve that information... And frankly, don't care because I was never keen on the character in the first place...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 15 June, 2005, 10:25:38 PM
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 15 June, 2005, 10:25:38 PM
It's Adam and I told you all about it weeks ago.
I claim my ?5.
I claim my ?5.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 10:32:57 PM
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 10:32:57 PM
Maybe it's just a really bad wolf
That is the best theory I've heard so far. A very, very bad wolf. A naughty, naughty wolf that the Doctor should send to bed without supper.
That is the best theory I've heard so far. A very, very bad wolf. A naughty, naughty wolf that the Doctor should send to bed without supper.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 10:36:41 PM
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 10:36:41 PM
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Alan Barnes on 15 June, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
Post by: Alan Barnes on 15 June, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
"I don't actually think Adam does have 20,000 years of Human knowledge. The machines that they used in the future wipes your brain, thus why he was recording it. But, oh dear, The answering machine exploded. I just can't see how he's ever going to retrieve that information... "
The hardcore spods on Outpost Gallifrey noticed ages ago that when the message is going through to Adam's mum's answering machine, the family dog is leaping around threatening to dislodge the receiver ...
Dog ... wolf ... do you see?
But that would be rubbish.
The hardcore spods on Outpost Gallifrey noticed ages ago that when the message is going through to Adam's mum's answering machine, the family dog is leaping around threatening to dislodge the receiver ...
Dog ... wolf ... do you see?
But that would be rubbish.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Richmond Clements on 15 June, 2005, 11:25:15 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 15 June, 2005, 11:25:15 PM
I reckon it'll be all a huge red herring, and Bad Wolf will not be mentioned at all in the next episode, just to annoy everyone.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 11:29:31 PM
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 11:29:31 PM
will end on a cliff hanger, so you have to wait, watch dr who next season baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 11:32:51 PM
Post by: judge dreddd on 15 June, 2005, 11:32:51 PM
adam..was spiked..in the episode where they arrive and find the big monster controlling stuff and i am sure, in last episode they said the big monster put there by someone who has been hanging around for a long time
the big bad wolf
the big bad wolf
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 11:45:40 PM
Post by: Dudley on 15 June, 2005, 11:45:40 PM
How about The Face Of Boe?
Always getting refered to or seen, and a bit of a dogface...
"Judging from the reactions I've had, a lot of people seem to think the Bad Wolf has already been revealed. Oh, it's the TV station. Oh, it's half a million Daleks. I've even got one friend claiming it's the Face of Boe! I must get better friends."
- Russell T Davies
Always getting refered to or seen, and a bit of a dogface...
"Judging from the reactions I've had, a lot of people seem to think the Bad Wolf has already been revealed. Oh, it's the TV station. Oh, it's half a million Daleks. I've even got one friend claiming it's the Face of Boe! I must get better friends."
- Russell T Davies
Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2005/06/14/19979.shtml
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 16 June, 2005, 12:07:05 AM
Post by: LARF on 16 June, 2005, 12:07:05 AM
This is the cast list from the BBC press release:
"Christopher Eccleston plays The Doctor, Billie Piper plays Rose, John Barrowman plays Captain Jack Harkness, Camille Coduri plays Jackie Tyler, Noel Clarke plays Mickey Smith and special guest star Anne Robinson plays Anne Droid."
? Jackie Tyler, Mickey Smith????
"Christopher Eccleston plays The Doctor, Billie Piper plays Rose, John Barrowman plays Captain Jack Harkness, Camille Coduri plays Jackie Tyler, Noel Clarke plays Mickey Smith and special guest star Anne Robinson plays Anne Droid."
? Jackie Tyler, Mickey Smith????
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 16 June, 2005, 12:09:44 AM
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 16 June, 2005, 12:09:44 AM
Young Mickey's updated his website, too, with some shindig about giving up.
Link: Clickety click click
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 16 June, 2005, 12:32:59 AM
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 16 June, 2005, 12:32:59 AM
"? Jackie Tyler, Mickey Smith????"
End of the World. Mobile phone.
;-)
End of the World. Mobile phone.
;-)
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: paulvonscott on 16 June, 2005, 04:54:07 AM
Post by: paulvonscott on 16 June, 2005, 04:54:07 AM
If it's Adam, in a chair with a pole sticking out of his head, I'm gonna be so gutted
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 16 June, 2005, 01:23:51 PM
Post by: LARF on 16 June, 2005, 01:23:51 PM
Sorry Paul but I think the name 'Adam' says it all really....
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: pauljholden on 17 June, 2005, 12:05:51 AM
Post by: pauljholden on 17 June, 2005, 12:05:51 AM
Well, if the reviews on aint-it-cool-news are right we're all wrong.
- pj
- pj
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 12:18:38 AM
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 12:18:38 AM
Hmmm it don't say much though PJ, but to be pure, vigiliant and behavasome those purests stay away...
...Saturday, I cannot wait!
...Saturday, I cannot wait!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 17 June, 2005, 12:18:39 AM
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 17 June, 2005, 12:18:39 AM
PJ --
Do the words "reviews" "Ain't It Cool News" and "right" belong together?
;-)
Do the words "reviews" "Ain't It Cool News" and "right" belong together?
;-)
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Noisybast on 17 June, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
Post by: Noisybast on 17 June, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
"Well, if the reviews on aint-it-cool-news are right we're all wrong."
I saw that link, but I'm going nowhere near it until Saturday night!
I saw that link, but I'm going nowhere near it until Saturday night!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 June, 2005, 02:11:52 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 17 June, 2005, 02:11:52 AM
I had guys in work trying to show me the paper today.
Arrghhh!
Arrghhh!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 17 June, 2005, 02:13:49 AM
Post by: Artificial Idiot on 17 June, 2005, 02:13:49 AM
Luckily my old man couldn't get ahold of the Sun today!
Otherwise there would have been death threats and niggling curiousity setting it...
Otherwise there would have been death threats and niggling curiousity setting it...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: therev on 17 June, 2005, 03:09:45 AM
Post by: therev on 17 June, 2005, 03:09:45 AM
Mate of mine MMS's me the Sun picture.
BASTARD!
BASTARD!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: therev on 17 June, 2005, 03:10:46 AM
Post by: therev on 17 June, 2005, 03:10:46 AM
Whoops thought that picture was smaller, SORRY!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: petemaskreplica on 17 June, 2005, 07:02:34 AM
Post by: petemaskreplica on 17 June, 2005, 07:02:34 AM
Oh my god! Bad Wolf is... a Gonk?!!
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 02:08:51 PM
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 02:08:51 PM
Thank you very much Rev. This thread is called 'Bad Wolf Theories' not spoilers!!!!!!
Cheers chuff nut, would have been nice if you could have just put a link there or something.
Cheers chuff nut, would have been nice if you could have just put a link there or something.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Matt Timson on 17 June, 2005, 04:29:55 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 17 June, 2005, 04:29:55 PM
Never mind all that- where's my effing Mary Tamm photo?
Eh?
;)
Eh?
;)
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 04:47:30 PM
Post by: LARF on 17 June, 2005, 04:47:30 PM
Hairy who?
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Noisybast on 17 June, 2005, 10:48:05 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 17 June, 2005, 10:48:05 PM
Er, I don't think that's actually the Bad Wolf, Larf...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Endjinn on 18 June, 2005, 12:40:45 AM
Post by: Endjinn on 18 June, 2005, 12:40:45 AM
But it *is* one of the biggest spoilers of the series....
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Buddy on 18 June, 2005, 04:05:46 AM
Post by: Buddy on 18 June, 2005, 04:05:46 AM
I can finally reveal....
After weeks of 'not watching'......
I AM BAD WOLF!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa!
Can't believe no one spotted that one comming.
After weeks of 'not watching'......
I AM BAD WOLF!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa!
Can't believe no one spotted that one comming.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Noisybast on 18 June, 2005, 02:37:02 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 18 June, 2005, 02:37:02 PM
Suddenly everything becomes clear...
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: therev on 18 June, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: therev on 18 June, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
LARF...er..What have I said that was a spolier??
All I said was a mate MMS'd me a photo out of the Sun then I attacked what I thought was a small silly picture of me.
JEB - REALLY sorry bout the phot, I've been in hospital AGAIN and have just had too much on my plate to get round to sending it. If I can I throw in something else.
All I said was a mate MMS'd me a photo out of the Sun then I attacked what I thought was a small silly picture of me.
JEB - REALLY sorry bout the phot, I've been in hospital AGAIN and have just had too much on my plate to get round to sending it. If I can I throw in something else.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: therev on 18 June, 2005, 03:35:13 PM
Post by: therev on 18 June, 2005, 03:35:13 PM
..as well.
And it should be attached not attacked.
And it should be attached not attacked.
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Buddy on 20 June, 2005, 01:39:56 AM
Post by: Buddy on 20 June, 2005, 01:39:56 AM
IT'S ROSE!!!!!!!!
er.. am I a bit late with this?
er.. am I a bit late with this?
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: Oddboy on 20 June, 2005, 08:30:36 PM
Post by: Oddboy on 20 June, 2005, 08:30:36 PM
A Rose/TARDIS hybrid! Who'd've guessed that?
Title: Re: Bad Wolf theories:
Post by: WoD on 20 June, 2005, 10:08:59 PM
Post by: WoD on 20 June, 2005, 10:08:59 PM
my wife had it sussed (honest). She said it was a warning or message and that it was Rose related, and she told me to tell you lot as she's rather proud. So there, it is done. Not that she'll ever know though.