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Title: dredd
Post by: bennc-kon on 15 July, 2005, 11:34:05 PM
am i the only one who wants to see another judge dredd film?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Pyroxian on 15 July, 2005, 11:53:01 PM
nope, we just want to see a _good_ Judge Dredd film, that doesn't play around with the source material too much

   Steve
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Noisybast on 15 July, 2005, 11:54:06 PM
I'll be very surprised if this ever sees the light of day.
I'll be even more surprised if it's any good...
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 15 July, 2005, 11:56:16 PM
I would want to see it if it's a) good, as opposed to arse, and b) it involves Judge Death, who I reckon would instantly become one of the greatest film villians of all time...
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 12:14:29 AM
I should play Judge Dredd
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 12:16:29 AM
and what the drokk's your last name?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 12:18:30 AM
anyone would think we were related, and i have no idea who you are.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Funt Solo on 16 July, 2005, 01:18:50 AM
Ah, but which Dredd story would translate well in the movie medium:  and why?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 July, 2005, 01:32:38 AM
Well, it's gotta be a story that's relatively straightforward, showcases the judges and big meg nicely, and doens't rely on too much backstory and continuity, but still has plenty of action and scope for big visuals and action setpieces -

May I suggest the apocalypse war, which is a pretty epic piece but still relatively simple and near enough the start of dredd continuity so as to be approachable to newcomers?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 01:35:41 AM
a fan has to direct it
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Noisybast on 16 July, 2005, 01:38:31 AM
A fan directed the last one.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 01:40:05 AM
well, a fan who uses the message board then?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 16 July, 2005, 04:03:50 AM
Scojo?

;-)
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: critter on 16 July, 2005, 04:36:33 AM
I do, I do. I mean they gave F4 another chance, why not Judge Dredd.

critter
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Bico on 16 July, 2005, 04:37:30 AM
Hugh Jackman for Dredd!

As long as any new version is half as good as the Robocop tv series - it'll be pure fried gold!  They're remaking everything now, though.  Hollywood has gone so far up its own arsehole that the studios have become incapable of scouting new material and talent - if it hasn't been a film, comic-book or tv show already, and if you haven't directed music videos for some nu-metal twats, they don't want to hear about it.  It's just a matter of time before someone notices they could do a Batman Begins-type dour-faced rehash of the Stallone travisty and bag some cred from the backlash against the right-wing politics and impressive legion of fans.
There's a horrible thought - Wachowski Brothers do Dredd.  DIScuss...
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 04:44:35 AM
'There's a horrible thought - Wachowski Brothers do Dredd. DIScuss...'

...ting?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 04:46:04 AM
wait, are you my grandmother's dog?
you have the same name.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 16 July, 2005, 04:48:38 AM
Talking of remakes, I just heard Carpenter is set to direct a remake of The Fog. What the fuck?!

It's now not that far-fetched to imagine Carpenter remaking The Thing sometime in the next few years, which is a thought that fills me with horror.

The only good thing to come out of the Fog remake so far is Mignola's cover to the Dark Horse tie-in:

Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 16 July, 2005, 07:57:11 AM
"I would want to see it if it's a) good, as opposed to arse, and b) it involves Judge Death, who I reckon would instantly become one of the greatest film villians of all time..."

I don't personally prescribe to the 'Put Judge Death in a Dredd Movie' idea.

All great fun in the comic of course but I think people just expect something more cerebral in  movies (especialy sci-fi movies) these days than just a big old ghost trying to kill people.

ADE
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Endjinn on 16 July, 2005, 08:13:56 AM
I think something along the Nero-Narcos-Big Regular-Kinda-Crime would be the right kind of enemy.

I still think an animated show a la The Pit would be the best way to go.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Steve Green on 16 July, 2005, 04:25:04 PM
I think the Apocalypse War is probably the best of the Mega-Epics to try, I think you would have to include a lead up to Block Mania where the city is normal to contrast it against the war.

A lot of the other epics take Dredd outside of the city (Cursed Earth/Judge Child) or have too much backstory (City of the Damned).

The Pit would be excellent, but it's the sort of thing that would work better as a TV series IMHO.

I really don't know about Death, whether he would translate well to the screen that well, without looking laugable...

- Steve
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: VampiraJen on 16 July, 2005, 04:39:44 PM
I still think an animated show a la The Pit would be the best way to go.


exactly.  if every marvel title out there can get a cartoon ---er, animated show, why can't dredd?  it would solve a lot of problems, eg bringing the uniform, mega city, etc to life coz it's a comic in motion and won't look as silly as live action.  besides, you can do more with a cart---animation, coz you aren't limited my hollywood/bbc/whoever's crappy special effects.

Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Funt Solo on 16 July, 2005, 07:00:01 PM
One big problem with The Apocalypse War (and a proposed movie version) is the Sovs.  I can't see anyone letting that pass.  In the mid 80s, sure, but now?

There's also the lack of any kind of serious subtext.  Again, in the 80s, you could get away with lots of "f*ck with us and we'll kill you" plots:  Rambo II+, Rocky IV et al.  What is The Apocalypse War except a stand-up fight?
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Steve Green on 16 July, 2005, 08:08:25 PM
I don't know if the Sovs would be such a problem, especially if it was made a bit more ambiguous as to the reasons for the War starting - some of this was mentioned in the trial of Orlok, where MC1 is not entirely blameless.

As for the fight, you could say the same thing about  a lot of Dredd epics - MC1 gets it's arse kicked and Dredd leads a fight back from a desperate situation.

I think it could be a bit more involved than just a stand-up fight if a bit more backstory was included.

- steve
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Max Kon on 16 July, 2005, 08:17:16 PM
i think it should be set in current continuity, have lots of stuff relying on it, but those would just be asides for the readers to get
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Bico on 16 July, 2005, 08:24:47 PM
With Eastern Europe going down the shitter at a rate of knots, I don't see the idea of a state dictatorship being adopted by an umbrella group of nations with ambivilent feelings towards the west as being so far-fetched.
On the other hand - WHO CARES?  We all know that it'll be Inferno, if anything, that would get the adaptation treatment.  It's an action-movie plot to begin with, has Grice - ex-judge, the main character's opposite number coughcoughevildoublecoughcough - some decent lines ("I got your plan right here!"), ambiguous feelings towards women, cute talking robot - producers go apeshit for cute talking robots, and that's a stone cold fact - and it wasn't very good, which is a prerequisite for action movies these days.  I don't know about you, but what I REALLY want to see in action movies, is a WHOLE FUCKING HOUR in the middle of the movie where the leads do nothing but shout at each other, and there isn't any action at all.  If possible, I also like action movies to be directed by people who can't direct action scenes.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Funt Solo on 16 July, 2005, 09:17:17 PM
See what happens when you mentions the Judge Dredd movie:  you go and get the Professor all riled up.

Now Terror and Total War:  that'd make a good movie.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: judge dreddd on 16 July, 2005, 09:28:12 PM
a new film wont happen but someone could do some art to a big finish dredd cd, like the bbc webcasts of dr who stuff

thats a viable project dudes
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Carlsborg Expert on 19 July, 2005, 12:34:37 AM
They should have this Clcktower Sniper type of bady who is holding Mega-City to ransom.It ends up with him about to massacre a schoolbuss full of children but dredd chases the perp to a munce crunching factory where he shoots him on a conveyer belt.He then throws his badge into a pond.
Themes will involve Judge Dredd dealing with Race issues.
The next one could have a bunch of corrupt cops wiping out criminals of all sorts.
Themes will involve justice issues.
Thirdly Dredd could have a FEMALE partner and she could help him to deal with his sex issues.
A fourth one would reprise justice issues and he could come to the aid of a rape victim.Being Dredd he still arrests her at the end of the film.
And finally Dredd deals with fame going up its own arse issues.
There.
Jobsagudden.
Title: Re: dredd
Post by: Carlsborg Expert on 19 July, 2005, 12:38:00 AM
They should have this Clocktower Sniper type of baddy who is holding Mega-City to ransom.It ends up with him about to massacre a schoolbuss full of children but dredd chases the perp to a munce crunching factory where he shoots him on a conveyer belt.He then throws his badge into a pond.
Themes will involve Judge Dredd dealing with Race issues.
The next one could have a bunch of corrupt cops wiping out criminals of all sorts.
Themes will involve justice issues.
Thirdly Dredd could have a FEMALE partner and she could help him to deal with his sex issues.
A fourth one would reprise justice issues and he could come to the aid of a rape victim.Being Dredd he still arrests her at the end of the film.
And finally Dredd deals with fame going up its own arse issues.
There.
Jobsagudden.