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In Death Trap! (the audio cd thingy) one of the characters, Nigella Gaiman, explains how she would get rid of the Dark Judges. She says the only way to destroy them is by vaporization. You vape their spirits.

I was listening to the cd and I thought, "man now that is a cool idea!"

If the dark judges' spirits could be broken apart and the atomic level, they should cease to exist. Fire some super dooper laser beam or something at them. Destroy their atoms.

I think Dave, I mean David, has finally figured it out.

Anyone think this could work?

scojo atom physicist nerd person







 

I mean:

If the dark judges' spirits could be broken apart at the atomic level, they should cease to exist.

scojo typo expert

I always thought the Dark Judges spirit form was just that - a spirit. Not a tangable substance, not a gassious form. A ghost in effect. Therefore to get rid of them an excorcism (spelling??) would have to be performed.

Hey, I just figured it out!!!!

Quick call Max Von Sydow - no, wait a minute. I don't think he would want to have any further dealings with anything associated with the name Dredd again, do you???

Discuss....

Well I would have said that the spiritual form of death was energy based.  What the source and focus of that energy along with any properties it has remain unknown.  Substances have been found which act as a barrier to that energy as has ways of displacing that energy, yet there has been no way found so far of destroying it.

Vaporisation, disintegration and atomisation all sound very interesting but then so does gurtokliasition, doesn't mean it's gonna work, I mean its highly experimental.

Seriously if there is a away to destroy death introduced then that was an mistake wasn't it?  Mistakes must be punished, there can be only one punishment...

Hisss......

Go with me on this...

Gas is made up of molecules, right?

And Death's spirit is a gas, right?

Therefore he could be atomised.

If you attached a nuclear device to the side of Death's crystal and set it off, wouldn't bones face be obliterated?

Think he might.

Go on Joe try it out.

Sector 11 is a dump anyway. Nuke that sector. No one will even notice....no trust me Joe on this...blah blah blah....

scojo member of CND

He's not a gas for heavens sake.

By the Way can Dave Bishop Also turn lead into gold?  I only ask because I've just bought these Dredd Foundry Minitures...

Lets get this straight.....

SCOJO - JUDGE DEATH IS NOT A GAS - HE IS A SPIRIT. BIG DIFFERENCE.

O.K. glad that's sorted.

An excorcist is required to banish Judge Death. End of discussion.

His 'spirit' form can be trapped by Boing, which suggests it has some physical prescence. I would argue that that prescence is a gaseous form.

Wake

Hmmm. the Boing thing....

Well we all know Boing has particular peculiar traits. It is a preservative, you can breathe through it even though it's solid (Anderson spent Grud knows how long trapped in that block and energed in the same condition she went in, she didn't even ask to go to the loo!!!), and of course it bounces.

I say it is these unique features, and perhaps other features we yet don't know about, that enabled the Judges to trap the SPIRIT of Death in Boing.

He's not a gas.

Lets get this straight.....

SCOJO - JUDGE DEATH IS NOT A GAS - HE IS A SPIRIT. BIG DIFFERENCE.

O.K. glad that's sorted.

An excorcist is required to banish Judge Death. End of discussion.

Are you sure?

Just in this week's My name is Death, Death says:
"I am not a common gasss!"

I thought that meant he WAS a gas but he considered himself to be a very special type of gas! Not common in other words.

You could be right though Ump.

Hmm, John Wagner please tell us!

scojo full of hot air

"the only way to destroy them is by vaporization. You vape their spirits. "

Actually, Kev Walker and I put some considerable thought into how a "ghost killing" weapon might disrupt the energy forms that make up a 'spirit' for the final story in The Inspectre's run in the Meg.

Of course, all the tedious techy-mumbo-jumbo never made it into the final draft of the script, but that there _is_ a ghost-killing gun that MC1 Tech Judge Brubaker is running around with in the final four-parter ...

Cheers

Jim

<"I am not a common gasss!" >

There you have it, Death said it himself. He is not a gas.

I took this comment to mean he was insulted to be compared to a gas.

Ya see wat I mean......

It's not just boing.

In the first Judge Death story he has to command Anderson to open the window to let him in.

He may be no ordinary gas, but his spirit form can't pass through an airtight barrier.

Wake

Link: Click the link to see the evidence.

JUST KILL EM ALL WIV SHARP POINTY STICKS TEE HE HE!!

:@'

Perhaps the window and walls were made of another substance that Death couldn't pass through.  If his spirit canoot pass through an air tight barrier, why not keep him in a tupperware box in the fridge?

>Perhaps the window and walls were made of another substance that Death couldn't pass through.  If his spirit cannot pass through an airtight barrier, why not keep him in a Tupperware box in the fridge?

Death's spirit form has never been able to pass through objects, and if you could get him in a Tupperware box and get the lid on that's all you'd need, but as is always the case there's always some nut who is willing to let him free. Plus his psychic emanations effect people in ways that the justice department never understands, so they build bigger and more elaborate means of keeping the four dark judges in captivity.

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W. R. Logan.

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Well, his hand passes through physcial objects, inert clothing and living tissue, so why not other things.

Oh, I know, its a kids comic.

Doh!

He wasn't really trapped in the Boing(R) he stayed inside Cass's head the whole time she was in there.  We never saw him trying to squeeze through the Boing(R)'s walls.

Meanwhile... His physical hand can pass through stuff but his spirity ghost can't... man that Judge is one mixed up kid!

Err, in case no-one's mentioned it yet (can't see any posts that have) Death's spirit passes through a solid object in this week's prog.

I haven't got it at work with me, so I can't check it, but I'm sure it happened, along with a nasty quip from old toothy face himself along the lines of, ''of course I can do this.''

Can't understand why this hasn't been posted yet. If i'm being dim and sleepy, point me in the right direction.

Or did I dream it?

MikeD

No, but later on they do use boing to trap the dark judges, and believe me buster, they don't boing off.

Just saw Umpty's post above. Sorry, working too hard.

Anyway, Death has worked his horrible influence across dimensions, so why can't he do it through a sheet of glass?

MikeD

...so why can't he do it through a sheet of glass?

Sheets of glass don't get pleasure that's why.

scojo sex therapist to the undead

Okay.
I looked over the last few progs last night (including the shiny new one waiting for me on the doorstep) and this is what I learned about the dead judge.

He says: "I am not a common GAS" rather than "I am not a COMMON gas" [my CAPS indicate bold type on the comic page] indicating he is not a gas, rather than not a 'common' gas but a special gas.

He can't escape the crystal he's incased in.

He escapes the lab through the plasteen gloves rather than through the glass, taking that with the above point of getting Anderson to open the window in a previous story I think we can take it that he has a problem with windows.

Also - when he takes over someone's body he always goes in through nostrils/ears/mouth/eyes - not through skin or skull.

Some physical items block him - others don't.  He knows the difference, and so does Anderson (because of that 'link' of thiers) but the rest of us will have to just guess (except for Wagner who can make it up as he goes along).

BTW, Amazing episode this week - blummin'eck! Can't wait for next week.

Maybe he just dosnt want to go into bodies via the skin or skull. Maybe its just easier for him. Maybe he is trying to confuse us into a stupour so he can sneak up and judge us.

Thats a lot of maybes.