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General Chat => Books & Comics => Topic started by: wb on 05 April, 2006, 07:45:37 PM

Title: Button Man
Post by: wb on 05 April, 2006, 07:45:37 PM
http://www.solaceincinema.com/

i hope this is true.

Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: +rufus+ on 05 April, 2006, 07:53:05 PM
Yes, Dreamworks have got it.
R
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: wb on 05 April, 2006, 07:54:21 PM
:)

class. what great news. its been worth the wait! Button Man is stunning.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 April, 2006, 08:16:18 PM
It'll be interesting to see what they do with this. If they're hoping for sequels, it would actually make sense to follow the comic fairly closely and set the first film in the UK (seeing as Harry discovers in the sequel that the game in the USA is much bigger); however, I bet the thing gets shifted to the USA. And I bet if the film does go ahead that Harry will be a rather more likeable character!

Still, any news is good news, and this is great for John Wagner.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: paulvonscott on 13 April, 2006, 03:22:32 AM
Well, I've just read Button Man I for the first time.  Feeling tired, I thought I'd read a little before I perhaps had a nice nap.  No such luck, I had to read it all.

Storming stuff!  It's just so mercilessly cold and brutal.  I've never liked that in say, James Bond, because that's dressed up to make it seem attractive.  This however had an honesty to it, that made it as appalling as it was entertaining.  The only thing I could compare it to in comics is History of Violence.

We really need the next two volumes out before the next series starts!  I could go to the progs, but I really enjoyed reading it in this format.  It's luxury itself.

This came in as I was leaving 2000AD, utterly sick of being fobbed off with half-baked crap (not that raw or overbaked crap is any better).

I think I did see button man as I was walking out the door, but I didn't recognise him and with a cursery nod I was off.

Anyway, great comic -oh, hang on, there's the phone...

Hello?

5 minutes?  Bring a machete?

I think you've got the wrong number mate.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: Rob Spalding on 13 April, 2006, 04:30:25 AM
Just re-read all 3 books over the weekend.

They should stick to the plots closely, though I would say books 1 and 2 will need to be a tad padded by more fights, or maybe more Cora in Bk 2.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 13 April, 2006, 05:24:15 AM
Why on earth would they want to stick to the plots?

Unfortunately, with only a small audience who know the comic I'm afraid the film will bear little resemblance to it. I'd say they have basically bought the rights to the idea of a killing tornament, with John 'History Of Violence' Wagner's name attached. They will flesh out Harry (if he's even called that) into their own idea of a hero and probably set it in  America. Although the strip looks cinematic, since it is set anywhere, and with only one vague, ordinary-looking character it'll have less chance of surviving the development process anything like intact than just about any other strip. Sorry to break the news!

ADE
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: dweezil2 on 13 April, 2006, 07:31:34 PM
Having said that, I felt that Cronenberg's adaptation of A History Of Violence was a successful distillation of the Graphic Novel-it even managed to expand on a few themes-so there's no reason the same can't be done with Button Man.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 13 April, 2006, 07:35:30 PM
But wb you won't be able to go and watch it with anyone else for fear of them finding your secret out will you? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: Bad Andy on 13 April, 2006, 07:47:42 PM
I personally thought the History of Violence film was better than the comic.

I don't see how they would, but if they were to improve Button Man too... wow! What a film.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 April, 2006, 10:23:57 PM
Thought History Of Violence was better than the comic in a lot of ways but I was a little disappointed when it finished because I'd convinced myself it had to have at least another hour to go to finish the story, but what they did with it was great. Button Man movie has a lot of scope to be equally brilliant so looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: scutfink on 13 April, 2006, 10:36:47 PM
"It's just so mercilessly cold and brutal. I've never liked that in say, James Bond, because that's dressed up to make it seem attractive."

 I assume you're talking Bond Movies here? In my experience of the novels, (Casino Royale through to Diamonds are Forever so far...) Bond is one of the least sympathetic, unlikeable, lead characters I've ever read, and more of the violence and brutality is practiced on him than by him...  
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: radiator on 13 April, 2006, 10:44:22 PM
I'll probaly get a kicking for this but I don't really like the whole premise of book 1 of Button Man. I just think it's silly that.....

*SPOILER* for those who havent read BM1







he sits there and explains the whole plot to the psychiatrist guy before going - Ha! you were the baddy all along! It's just a bit clumsy, and totally unconvincing. Something similar happens in Fiends of the Eastern Front, as well.
Button Mans 2-3 (and no doubt 4 will) kick arse though. They (film makers) should definately keep Harry British, and keep him as a stone cold psychopath as well. IMO they should just get Wagner to write the screenplay, god knows he's a good enough writer.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: Buttonman on 13 April, 2006, 11:14:55 PM
"he sits there and explains the whole plot to the psychiatrist guy before going - Ha! you were the baddy all along!"

What!! I thought the fish was the baddie! Beady eyes in the last panel is the clue.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 14 April, 2006, 04:56:49 AM
No, the fish was simply a pawn of the badger.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: paulvonscott on 14 April, 2006, 05:36:02 AM
i don't think we've seen the last of the snake mind... surprise comeback in part 4 maybe?
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 14 April, 2006, 05:52:43 AM
Well I wouldn't completely rule it out. We didn't see it's body after the kill, and perhaps it could have been cloned from a shed skin.

Anyone read that interview with Grant Morrison after Phase 4 was published where he claimed to have inspired a shift in Wagners writing that led to Button Man and then proceded to mock the badger?
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: paulvonscott on 14 April, 2006, 07:31:19 AM
Wagner's got where he has by being a great writer, Grant Morrison got there by being full of shit.

Both equally succesful routes in their own times and fair do's.

If there's no sign of any new Button Man books before the new series I'll go to the progs.  Reminds me of that weird story with the poisoned assassin, that was by wagner and in an annual or some old progs wasn't it?  Tell me I didn't imagine it!?

On Bond, I read some of the newspaper strips, but I have to give up as it started to just feel strangely cold.  Started reading Colonel Sun by Amis (whose books I enjoy) but again, got that feeling.  I quite enjoyed a bond movie as a kid, but there's no nostalgia left for him nowadays I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: davidbishop on 14 April, 2006, 07:34:46 AM
Poisoned assassin? You're thinking of The Burning Man by Wagner & Ezquerra, originally created for the Earthside 8 dummy and subsequently published in a 2000 AD winter special, IIRC.

davidbishop
Title: Re: Button Man
Post by: paulvonscott on 14 April, 2006, 07:44:12 AM
A-ha!  Yeah, that's it, David!

Not that I can find it now.  

I read it and thought, yeah, perhaps not an instant hit, but I reckon this would be really good as an ongoing series.  Like that one where Dredd goes back in time (and who knows even origins) there's that cold hearted thriller vibe that Wagner does very well.