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how do you go about getting original artwork from 2000ad? how much does it cost and where do i look?

I've had a look on the website and there are loads of people with their own collections. Are these collections that they want to sell or are they just showing stuff off?

Also looked on ebay, there seems to be loads of stuff by Anthony Williams for about ?30-?40. What about things like prog and meg covers? They available somewhere?

they'll definitely be some on sale at the bristol conference. creators often sell their work which means you can meet them in person and get it signed!
Covers tend to much more expensive for obvious reasons than interior pages. personally i prefer the latter.

Conventions are great. You could also try on ebay, or failing that on the link below.

Link: http://www.2000ad.org/artwork/

and incidentally, how big is a page?

hi there 3rd Man,
 I sell art on behalf of many of the artists, Carlos Ezquerra, Dave Gibbons, Cliff Robinson, Henry Flint, Trevor Hairsine, Arthur Ranson etc.
You can contact me directly, and/or check out some of the stuff I have for sale here...
Rufus

Link: http://comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=578

Most current artists seem to draw on A3 card or thereabouts. Early artwork is usually larger, sometimes nearly A2 for a single page.

The artwork shown on this site is not for sale, but anyone with a collection here can put prices on their pages, send me images, and have them show up on my Artwork Gallery site.

Here's a Simon Davis painted cover that I have for sale for ?125.

Cheers,

Wake

Link: The 2000AD Artwork Gallery

Are these collections that they want to sell or are they just showing stuff off?


I'm showing off ;)
I love my artwork and don't intend on ever selling it. But then I don't go to conventions or conferences so miss out on a lot of new stuff.
Buying older pages can be rather expensive though just to warn you.

I like to think of my collection as 'research' for my own artistic endeavours.

As for price you can pick up a lot of 'unfashionable' but still very good artist's work very cheaply. sometimes about 20 squid for a page.

I've got a nice collection of original art but I must admit I don't really know what to look for when buying.

Presently I buy stuff 'cos I like it and there's nowt wrong with that can somebody enlighten me as to the 'rules' of pricing artwork?

Pete.

pay what you think it worth to you. not a penny more,(or what you have a budget for.)

 though certain peices have specail value,

Wake owns the piece of dredd requesting smaller sized boots from stores. really its the moment he has purchased,not the work or detail within the frames.
that to many of us here is worth far more then many other wonderful peices painted or drawn witch took far longer to create.

I tend to price artwork at ?40+ for Judge Dredd and ?30+ for other significant characters. If the page is one I particularly like then I price it as a little bit higher than I would pay for it myself. However, some of my pages are priced based on what the artist wants for the page, rather than what I would price it for left to my own devices. The original artist is at liberty to put whatever value he wants to on his work. Obviously artwork which is priced above the 'market value' doesn't sell so well.

Cheers,

Wake

      I don't know how you can really decide that Dredd equals 40, other characters 30 etc.
    Prices vary enormously between story, artist etc.
You're also paying for original art, not comics, and the artist can only sell it once, and should therefore achieve the best possible price for it.
     If an artist asked for a particular price for a piece of work I'd nevevr haggle, if I can't afford it, I put it back.
   I've bought thousands of pages over the years, and guess I probably have the largest collection of 2000ad art about.
        I started collecting because few others rated the work (enough to buy it), and it worried me noone seemed to want to  keep things together either,and it also made a great learning tool!
     I lend a lot of stuff to museums,galleries and exhibitions as I want people to realise wht beautiful art is being produced under their very noses, and to give other aspiring pros a chance to see how others work.
     So when you buy a pice of art, it's not just the paper you buy, bought the collected editted talent of that artist.
  Great stuff art...
Happy collecting!
:-) R

You've also got to remember that an artist might be reluctant to sell some pieces- having too much shite lyin around or needing cash for more alcohol etc forcing him to!
Anyway, it will take more for them to part with these...
"I suppose i could always do another one if i really wanted...."

i like wake's idea of pricing stuff.  i've emailed bisley to get some money back for my abc page, i paid alot more than the ?30 (for other significant characters) suggested.  next on my email list is bolland, i think i can stretch to ?40 for a dredd page.  i might even try and knock the price down a little!!!
if only collecting good art was that easy.......

Here are a few  examples of pages which are priced like this:

Steve Roberts - Bec & Kawl/Gribligs ?30-?40 each
Richard Elson - Atavar/The Scrap ?30 each
David Millgate - Mean Machine ?40 each
David Roach - Synnamon ?35 each
Dom Reardon - Caballistics ?30-?60 each
John McCrea - Sinister Dexter ?30 each
Laurence Campbell - Bison/Synnamon/Breathing Space ?30-?40 each
Simon Fraser - Nikolai Dante ?40-?60 each

and ones where the artist has asked for a higher price

Boo Cook - Judge Dredd ?75 each
Charlie Adlard - Savage ?65 each
David Roach - Anderson ?40-?100 each
John Burns - Dredd/Dante ?200-?245 each
John McCrea - Judge Dredd ?85-?100 each

All of these prices are from pages which are currently still available to buy and have been for several months at least, which suggests to me that  the prices aren't too low.

Cheers,

Wake

Is that the same as suggesting they are too high then Wake?

but what about the ezquerra's, bisley, bolland, jock, gibbons, kennedy, flint, talbot, ewins etc. should they come under the same price list??  i think the point that is trying to be made is that you can't classify the cost of art so simply, while the pieces on your website might be there for ?40 (for dredd), other saught after pages will go for a lot more, regardless of what character is in it.
jon

Is that the same as suggesting they are too high then Wake?

Some of the prices are above what the same pages would achieve if sold on eBay with no reserve. However, all of the above artwork is sold on behalf of the original artists and so pricing the pages 'to sell' would mean less money going to them. I'm happy to have so many great pages 'in stock', so I don't mind that I haven't sold many recently.

Like Rufus I don't think it's appropriate to haggle when buying direct from an artist.

Cheers,

Wake

what about the ezquerra's, bisley, bolland, jock, gibbons, kennedy, flint, talbot, ewins etc. should they come under the same price list??

Coming up with a price for something has to start somewhere. Obviously artwork by fan favourite artists is going to be worth more and I am not suggesting otherwise.

Cheers,

Wake

I agree with that. I mean I've not met any artists in person but I have bought direct from a few and that makes those pieces even more special in my mind. And the money goes direct to them not someone buying in bulk only to resell and seemingly not carrying about their artistic worth. That's why I'm really happy there is artwork to buy on this site and from people like Rufus.

I think your pricing structure is right for the artists you've mentioned above but the ones that mastersan, and others would be sizably higher, some obviously even more so, so it's hard to generalise like that. I can't imagine that Rufus's collection would only go for ?40 a page ;)

for the OP I'd say the Anthony Williams pages are very nice but not really worth the amount that Ebay seller is selling them for. The Dead Man page especially as I got a better page for about ?25 from Ebay in the past and the Bisley Sam Slade pages were half the price when I bought one from somewhere else. I don't see them selling that quickly.

Talking of original artwork if you look on Ebay atm you can see that fatboydale has put up over 300 pages of artwork for a range of various prices that might interest you.

Bloody typical, it's 15p listing day. There are hundreds of pages up for sale.

I'm having a clear out of pretty much all my artwork. Although may leave it a couple of weeks so it doesn't get buried somewhere in the pages of listings. Since having a bit of a reorg at home it is no longer displayed, and I only bought pages or pieces to put on the wall, having a pile in a case under the bed never appealed.

Anyone looking for a Halo Jones page...

Link: ...can find one here

i like wake's idea of pricing stuff. i've emailed bisley to get some money back for my abc page

that made me laugh so hard i almost pulled a muscle.
i love this place for just such brillant posts.

Art is worth however much someone will pay for it, if you think ?200 is too much, and someone else buys it.... then it's worth ?200 quid. Simple as. Artists overheads are absolutely minimal, but fine art in galleries or sold through dealers, lose 50-70% to the dealer/gallery as commission. I doubt comics dealers would be as harsh though. Guys like Rufus seem to me to do it for love of comic art, and i can understand that.

3rd, a mate of mine from Warington might be selling some pages soon, and he's usually lethally decent about prices. Critchlow Mean Machine, Smith Dredd, things like that. Interested?

DXB, if he's got any art for sale I'm always interested in seeing what is available, etc. Make sure he gives me a chance to have a  look etc. Cheers

I'd guess you wouldn't be the only interested person, always nice to see new stuff come on the market!

Well he's just bought 44 pages of Adlard Superman art, as well as all the art for the Walking Dead contribution to the Christmas special.

I believe he's been mailing Wake about putting some of his original artwork on the net. Amongst his finest pieces is a page of Macniel art of Johnny Alpha, Wulf, and Durham that as far as we can tell was never published...

Ron Smith Dredd? Thats gotta be expensive?

I recently bought this Ron Smith page on eBay for ?91 including postage. I wouldn't normally want a Ron Smith Dredd page quite so much, but I believe this page is the only appearance of Fargo (modelled on John Wagner) in 2000AD so far. It also has a baby Judge Rico.

Cheers,

Wake

Goodman, Rubins Hansar and Mandela.


What exactly are their stories?

I never saw that. Nuts. I really must pay more attention!

Definately worth getting for the original judges faces and of course the future storylines with Rico there.

"I tend to price artwork at ?40+ for Judge Dredd and ?30+ for other significant characters. If the page is one I particularly like then I price it as a little bit higher than I would pay for it myself. However, some of my pages are priced based on what the artist wants for the page, rather than what I would price it for left to my own devices. The original artist is at liberty to put whatever value he wants to on his work. Obviously artwork which is priced above the 'market value' doesn't sell so well. "

 well...that answers that question...

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6622495721&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Somebody's having a clearout...

Link: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZfatboydaleQQhtZ-1

Nah thats Dale making the most of a cheap listings day.
If he sold a few every week he'd probably sell all of them over a year, putting up so many at once defeats the object really.

I was expecting that page to top out around ?600 (because that's about what I sold two other pages from the same story for a year ago), so I was mildly surpised to see that the reserve was met at ?750, and didn't expect the final price to be knocking on ?1000.

Is anyone here actually under the impression that I might think that a Bolland, Bisley, Gibbons, Ezquerra, McMahon or Fabry page would change hands for under ?50?

Cheers,

Wake

Nice page - I'd forgotten that scene.  

A helmeted Fargo also appears in The Lost Tribe - part 15 of Oz, in prog 559.  

3rd Man, maybe not as expensive as you'd expect. I paid ?35 for the page but then we're mates and I'm a regular customer. I would expect it to be around that, maybe ?50 or so. As it turns out the page I bought was the last page of the last Dredd to be published that was drawn by Ron.

His last hurrah sees a bunch of punks being driven off into the sunset whilst a simp looks on and blows a party popper. A very fitting image for a last Ron Smith image and I wonder whether it was planned.

Although most original art that I fancy is *way* out of my price league, I'd be sorely tempted by the last page of Mandroid (for obvious reasons), if it wasn't *too* dear.