Title: smee (shameless self-pimp)
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 08 June, 2006, 06:46:33 AM
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 08 June, 2006, 06:46:33 AM
Here's a link to my latest column.
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Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 June, 2006, 06:50:25 AM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 June, 2006, 06:50:25 AM
The link didn't work for me, but then my computer is a bit weird sometimes. Pimp it to me again!
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Post by: I, Cosh on 08 June, 2006, 06:53:00 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 June, 2006, 06:53:00 AM
Ah. Not the old getting the link and the title the wrong way round routine?
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Post by: Floyd-the-k on 08 June, 2006, 07:36:31 AM
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 08 June, 2006, 07:36:31 AM
dang! I'll give it another go
Link: this time for sure
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Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 01:29:20 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 01:29:20 PM
"Most geeks would appreciate having these opportunities for spider-self-abuse"
Heh...
Heh...
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Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 June, 2006, 04:22:51 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 08 June, 2006, 04:22:51 PM
A cracking read, I can now add a new definition to the word "root", cheers.
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Post by: Bico on 08 June, 2006, 04:52:04 PM
Post by: Bico on 08 June, 2006, 04:52:04 PM
The Jason Todd retcon in Batman is the worst I've seen. Being lifted wholesale from Captain America's ressurrection of Bucky didn't help matters, either.
DC recently had another of their regular continuity cleanups with the Infinite Crisis storyline. One character actually comments that the 'timeline' of events has changed now, and Superman showed up earlier than he did before. All those stories you loved?
They can fuck off and so can you, fanboy.
Haven't read Origins yet, so the jury's out on that.
DC recently had another of their regular continuity cleanups with the Infinite Crisis storyline. One character actually comments that the 'timeline' of events has changed now, and Superman showed up earlier than he did before. All those stories you loved?
They can fuck off and so can you, fanboy.
Haven't read Origins yet, so the jury's out on that.
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Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 07:05:31 PM
I'm stealing your pimpage. I've just had this rejected by a client on the grounds that it isn't child friendly enough. I knew that when I drew it, but I just couldn't help myself...
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Post by: House of Usher on 08 June, 2006, 07:40:05 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 08 June, 2006, 07:40:05 PM
and now Superman showed up earlier than he did before.
That's so nuts - what then was the point of Zero Hour, the upshot of which was that Superman hadn't been around as long as he had prior to that event?
I read Infinite Crisis, and I'm following 52, but I'm totally out of love with the DC Universe the way things stand, and there aren't any DC characters whose own titles I now want to read with any regularity, if at all.
Nice illustration by the way, Jones.
That's so nuts - what then was the point of Zero Hour, the upshot of which was that Superman hadn't been around as long as he had prior to that event?
I read Infinite Crisis, and I'm following 52, but I'm totally out of love with the DC Universe the way things stand, and there aren't any DC characters whose own titles I now want to read with any regularity, if at all.
Nice illustration by the way, Jones.
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Post by: LARF on 08 June, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
Post by: LARF on 08 June, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
"...grounds that it isn't child friendly enough."
I think it might be the cigar.
I think it might be the cigar.
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Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 07:53:41 PM
Post by: Matt Timson on 08 June, 2006, 07:53:41 PM
To be honest, I don't know why anyone ever hires me. They look at my folio and know what to expect- so why do they always end up asking me to draw something that looks like clip art?!?
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Post by: scutfink on 08 June, 2006, 10:14:52 PM
Post by: scutfink on 08 June, 2006, 10:14:52 PM
Posted by Bumsex:
DC recently had another of their regular continuity cleanups with the Infinite Crisis storyline. One character actually comments that the 'timeline' of events has changed now, and Superman showed up earlier than he did before. All those stories you loved?
They can fuck off and so can you, fanboy.
Y'know, I never really understood that argument, sure the timeline has changed and the stories you loved are no longer part of accepted continuity, but they still exist...
It's not like the powers that be have sent Johnny DC round with a flamethrower to deal with all those contentious back issues...
Even if you don't actually own a copy, you can still buy the back issues off e-bay or at a comics fair or whatever...
Now, I realise this might be something odf a leap of faith on my part, but I'm assuming you have the ability to tell fact from fiction, no? So is it really that hard to keep one fiction separate from another fiction? Just 'cause the DC multiverse no longer exists in official continuity doesn't mean you can't keep it alive in your head...
Or something...
DC recently had another of their regular continuity cleanups with the Infinite Crisis storyline. One character actually comments that the 'timeline' of events has changed now, and Superman showed up earlier than he did before. All those stories you loved?
They can fuck off and so can you, fanboy.
Y'know, I never really understood that argument, sure the timeline has changed and the stories you loved are no longer part of accepted continuity, but they still exist...
It's not like the powers that be have sent Johnny DC round with a flamethrower to deal with all those contentious back issues...
Even if you don't actually own a copy, you can still buy the back issues off e-bay or at a comics fair or whatever...
Now, I realise this might be something odf a leap of faith on my part, but I'm assuming you have the ability to tell fact from fiction, no? So is it really that hard to keep one fiction separate from another fiction? Just 'cause the DC multiverse no longer exists in official continuity doesn't mean you can't keep it alive in your head...
Or something...
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Post by: Bico on 08 June, 2006, 10:30:41 PM
Post by: Bico on 08 June, 2006, 10:30:41 PM
Oh, I have no trouble keeping them seperate - I still read the Ultimate line of Marvel books, for a start.
What I object to, and which undoubtedly annoys DC's notoriously anal fanboys about a million times more than it does me, is that now certain stories are no longer 'canon'. For instance, the story 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?' (argueably one of the finest comics ever written) is now an 'Elseworlds' tale - the continuity of the Superman mythos is robbed of an era-defining moment of comic-book storytelling in which the Golden Age Superman's story ended in a moving tribute to the age that spawned the character, and now is replaced with a juvenile slugfest between Superman and Evil Superboy. Apart from the complete lack of respect for the characters involved, it's a slap in the face for the fanboys (whatever your opinion of them may be) who've supported the character through the godawful reinventions and blandstrosities of storytelling that have plagued the books for quite some time now.
Sure, you can always re-read the original comics, but it doesn't undo the contempt for the books and their long-term fans that the publishers display.
What I object to, and which undoubtedly annoys DC's notoriously anal fanboys about a million times more than it does me, is that now certain stories are no longer 'canon'. For instance, the story 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?' (argueably one of the finest comics ever written) is now an 'Elseworlds' tale - the continuity of the Superman mythos is robbed of an era-defining moment of comic-book storytelling in which the Golden Age Superman's story ended in a moving tribute to the age that spawned the character, and now is replaced with a juvenile slugfest between Superman and Evil Superboy. Apart from the complete lack of respect for the characters involved, it's a slap in the face for the fanboys (whatever your opinion of them may be) who've supported the character through the godawful reinventions and blandstrosities of storytelling that have plagued the books for quite some time now.
Sure, you can always re-read the original comics, but it doesn't undo the contempt for the books and their long-term fans that the publishers display.
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Post by: Noisybast on 08 June, 2006, 10:42:50 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 08 June, 2006, 10:42:50 PM
It's "Spider-Man". With a "-". Write that down.
"I've just had this rejected by a client on the grounds that it isn't child friendly enough."
I know a 4-and-a-half year old and a 5-year-old who I suspect would disagree. I'll ask them for their opinons.
"I've just had this rejected by a client on the grounds that it isn't child friendly enough."
I know a 4-and-a-half year old and a 5-year-old who I suspect would disagree. I'll ask them for their opinons.
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Post by: Woolly on 09 June, 2006, 01:04:32 AM
Post by: Woolly on 09 June, 2006, 01:04:32 AM
Most of the kids i know would love it too,
ye talented swine, ye!
:)
ye talented swine, ye!
:)
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Post by: House of Usher on 09 June, 2006, 03:36:48 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 June, 2006, 03:36:48 AM
I never realised 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow' was canon. I always thought it was an Elseworlds story.
The trouble with this re-ordering of the characters' universes is that if you follow, for example, the DC universe as if it were one story, when it suddenly all changes, that story is finished. Your investment in the story that follows can't be taken for granted by the publishers just because it has the same characters in it. Those characters, their situation, their background, origin, rationale, and the way they interact with one another may change so much as a result that their story isn't one you want to read anymore.
For example: The Green Lantern, Hal Jordan, died. His title continued though, and Kyle Raynor became Green Lantern. I was quite happy with Kyle being Green Lantern, although I lost interest in the title when the editors kept sending Kyle into space in spin-off titles and getting Jade or John Stewart to stand in for Kyle in the main Green Lantern title. Now that they've brought Hal Jordan back to life and made him Green Lantern again, brought the Green Lantern Corps back to life as well, and sent Kyle Raynor back into space and made him not a Green Lantern any more but something called 'Ion', which all fits nicely with the post Infinite Crisis DCU, nothing would induce me to read either Green Lantern or Ion.
The trouble with this re-ordering of the characters' universes is that if you follow, for example, the DC universe as if it were one story, when it suddenly all changes, that story is finished. Your investment in the story that follows can't be taken for granted by the publishers just because it has the same characters in it. Those characters, their situation, their background, origin, rationale, and the way they interact with one another may change so much as a result that their story isn't one you want to read anymore.
For example: The Green Lantern, Hal Jordan, died. His title continued though, and Kyle Raynor became Green Lantern. I was quite happy with Kyle being Green Lantern, although I lost interest in the title when the editors kept sending Kyle into space in spin-off titles and getting Jade or John Stewart to stand in for Kyle in the main Green Lantern title. Now that they've brought Hal Jordan back to life and made him Green Lantern again, brought the Green Lantern Corps back to life as well, and sent Kyle Raynor back into space and made him not a Green Lantern any more but something called 'Ion', which all fits nicely with the post Infinite Crisis DCU, nothing would induce me to read either Green Lantern or Ion.
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Post by: Mr C on 09 June, 2006, 04:25:49 AM
Post by: Mr C on 09 June, 2006, 04:25:49 AM
Urgh, infinite crisis, urgh. Massive dissapointment.
Biggest complaint?
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Batman fucks off for a year, leaving Harvey Dent in charge of Gotham. What the..?
Think I'll stick to 2000ad for a while.
And New Avengers.
And Astonishing X-Men
And Civil War.
And All Star Superman.
And Batman (Morrison's starting a run soon)
Ooh, a new Flash, that might be interesting.
And I think I'll pick up- Wait a minute...
Damn you American Comics!
Biggest complaint?
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
Batman fucks off for a year, leaving Harvey Dent in charge of Gotham. What the..?
Think I'll stick to 2000ad for a while.
And New Avengers.
And Astonishing X-Men
And Civil War.
And All Star Superman.
And Batman (Morrison's starting a run soon)
Ooh, a new Flash, that might be interesting.
And I think I'll pick up- Wait a minute...
Damn you American Comics!
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Post by: Floyd-the-k on 09 June, 2006, 06:40:22 AM
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 09 June, 2006, 06:40:22 AM
looks good to me. Then again, I'm not a kid
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Post by: Art on 09 June, 2006, 06:46:59 AM
Post by: Art on 09 June, 2006, 06:46:59 AM
Nit pick: You forgot to capitalise Onions.
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Post by: Floyd-the-k on 09 June, 2006, 08:02:35 AM
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 09 June, 2006, 08:02:35 AM
You mean Origins, surely? Dang, I did forget. Thanks.