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Well, well, WHAT a suprise.
Went into it thinking it'd be a case of a creaky Willis running around doing patently CGI set pieces but it was far from it.
It sure is a product of now, playing up on terrorist fears, and some set-ups and even shots are steals from the first one, and i thought it a thoroughly enjoyable 2 hours.
CGI seems to be at a minimum - and some of it is a bit silly - but the stunt work is very impressive and Brucey has stepped into McClane's white vest (which you only see a peep of!) effortlessly.
If i've one blip its the uber-agile, indestructable bad guy who bounces around off the walls, i'm sure to be cool but just came across as Daffy Duck.

   I am going to see it as well.      theres nothing like a bit of entertainment   !!        I hope its better than die hard 3 as well.

as long as there's no stupid puzzles with water jugs that to this day still make no sense to me.

Last time I watched Die Hard 3 I really concentrated on the water jug scene but I still don't get it :)

It's a while since I watched it, but I'm pretty sure they left out a big chunk of the explanation of the famous water jug puzzle. I can't actually remember how you do it, but the film just kinda cut from them starting it, to something else, to halfway through the puzzle when Willis suddenly realizes how to do it, while we the audience, miss a few steps.

From memory he's got a 5L and a 2L container and he needs to fill a 3L exactly.

Fill the 2L twice and put the contents into the 5L. This now has 4L in it. Now fill the 2L again and fill the 5L up to the brim. The 4L already there is filled with the 1 further litre. You now have exactly 1L left in the 2L container. Put this into the 3 litre and then fill it with a further full 2L.

yeah that does make sense (if you read it five times and think very hard)

it could be me being stupid

or it could be a really stupid thing to put in the middle of an action film.

   can  you imagine how difficult that would be under such pressure   ?     one litre of water too much and thats it  !

The whole idea of the puzzles, as far as I can remember, was to distract Mclaine and SLJacksons characters long enough so that the bad guys could nick all that gold.

zeus is, what i believe, he was called.

and the gold stealing might have worked a lot better had he not involved MacLean at all.  the film seems to go out of its way to point out that he didn't even like his brother.

what gets me about that puzzle is how the hell do yanks know what a litre is, isn't it all qarts and gallons over there :)

CU Radbacker

I watched the third one the other day, to prepare myself for this new one.  It's not that bad, and easily better than number 2.  I'll be pleased with 4 even if it isnt as good as 3, but better than 2.

The water jug puzzle went like this, by the way:
5 litre jug and 3 litre jug (not 2 litres)
Fill up 5 litre jug
Fill 3 litre jug with 5 litre jug, leaving 2 litres in the 5 litre jug (confusing myself here...)
Empty 3 litre jug
Put the 2 litres from the 5 litre jug into the 3 litre jug
Fill 5 litre jug again
Fill the 3 litre jug from the 5 litre jug now, meaning only a litre from the 5 litre jug.
Whey-hey! 4 litres!

If that's still too confusing (and I'm sure it is), apologies.

Saw this at the flicks earlier today. It's better than Transporter 2, I'll give it that.

i loved it...just what was needed on a rainy day in Cardiff....

simon

We loved it too...! Some tremendously exciting set-pieces and Willis is as engaging as ever.

Only two drawbacks: the movie was preceded by a lengthy trailer for Transformers, so for the first few minutes of Die Hard 4.0 I kept expecting the trucks to turn into robots.

And the second drawback is the title. What was wrong with the American title of Live Free or Die Hard?

As for the Jug puzzle in Die Hard with a Vengeance: Saxondale's got it right, but as far as I remember, they actually don't do it correctly in the movie.

-- Mike

I'm pretty sure they do the water jug thing wrong in the movie. I baffled me so much at the time i worked out a couple of methods.

Alternatively:

Fill the 3, pour all into the 5.

Fill 3 again and use it to fill 5 to brim, leaving 1 in the 3

Empty 5 and use the 1 and then a full 3.

However, I heard that 4 is pretty fun. Looking forward to it.

hex

>>>And the second drawback is the title. What was wrong with the American title of Live Free or Die Hard?

it sounds very 'america! fuck yeah!' which might not go down very well outside america-land

Bump.

I really enjoyed it too. Not much of the hoo-ray USA but plenty of cracking action and funny dialogue. Best line for me


"Good luck at the bad timing awards"

You do have to disengage reality throughout or you'd be going 'Tap tap tap I've hacked into Norad - it takes me two minutes to get online!'.

That Asian babe is flexible too, smacked by an SUV and driven through two walls and she comes up kicking.



Best sequel of the summer!

Me like it. Me like see things blow up and go BANG!

Although it was marred by some implausabilities, it had some sharp sardonic dialogue-which makes a nice change!
Bruce is always good value for money, unless it's Blind Date of course.

Anyone else notice that Justin Long's character (IIRC Matt) had left a copy of Leah Moore and John Reppion's Albion infront his monitor in one scene?



TBO Mary spotted it a split-second before I did.

Went in with low expectations, but was very pleasantly surprised. Right up to the bit with the plane: even in the world of stupid action movies, that was too stupid.

#1 evil henchwoman could kick the shit out of me any time she likes.