Hey folks, I've avoided as much hype as I could for this, so as to actually hope to enjoy it and see what the fuss was about.
Last night I watched the first two eps on the beeb, and loved it. Some clunky dialogue, and I made a few early guesses about characters that were way too easy, but really interesting and hopefully the series will get stronger.
The ending of the second episode was a great blast and sets the stage for hopefully a finite series. Though seeing what a mess lost became I doubt that will be the case.
Bolt-01
I've watched most of series one on download and stopped wathing when I heard it was coming on BBC, so I could enjoy the ending with everyone else.
It's great stuff, though the first few episodes are built round the admittedly brilliant cliff hangers. Good news is- it just gets better and better!
yes it is rather good, will keep quiet as we just finished it Downunder a couple of weeks ago(top final episode IMHO, dont listen to the doubters) but it does improve and nary a dud episode in the whole season(a couple of less interesting episodes but always something important going on and nothing as boring ass and unrelated as the NIcki PAulo thing in Lost).
CU Radbacker
It's great mate. It does get better and some episodes go by so fast it is unbelievable.
Good to see that in showing the first two episodes, BBC 2 was running about eight minutes behind. Nice one, BBC! Luckily, we decided to watch it, otherwise we'd have missed the end of the second episode.
I didn't see it,despite having looked forward to the show for some time.
Balls!
Is it beiing repeated a la Who I wonder?
M.
It's repeated tonight I think!
I loved it and can't wait for the next episode. Having the subtitles on the main screen like they were speech bubbles was sublime.
The thing I got watching it was the "reverence" the American's have for the "Superhero" genre.
Unfortunately this is something I don't share, having grown up with Tharg's world. Can you imagine what a UK version of Heroes would be like?
Ardal O' Hanlon might be available... :)
I thought it was really good. It finally gives me a reason to watch TV again, which I haven't had since Peep Show ended.
I havent seen Heroes before so i watched it last night and yes it was good.I dont usually watch a lot of tv either but i wasnt disappointed at all apart from the flying character.I always think people flying look a bit silly.It had some funny moments like breaking the time/space continuam in the office at work.I got a bit fed up with the "we are special " term .It just grates a bit.I prefer the term "different" myself.
It moved along at a good pace and it had a realism to it.Also i like the fact it is not set just in America.TV series can be a bit tame but this wasnt at all.
Music by Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman .Gorgeous girls who used to work with Prince amongst others.I have one of their lps.
loving it,but i think it would lack something without Hiro and Ando the japanese "comic relief".
I enjoyed it a lot. I usually work on Wednesday nights, so I may have to tune in the video, only four years after we moved in!
- Trout
Ah yes, Wendy and Lisa - "Fruit at the Bottom", one of the great titles, and a great record. And I fancied at least one of them.
Not massively impressed so far with The New Universe or Watchmen or whatever it's called, but word-of-mouth says stick with it, so I will. One thing I will say - it's faked-up 'foreign' exteriors are even worse than Lost's. Tokyo, eh? Nope, not buying it.
I fancied Wendy Melvoin .I think she is gay but i am not sure.I *think* she has a twin sister as well.I have their first album. Its good.
I found it to be a bit too slow, but I guess this is because it's the start and everything is all very disparate.
I can see myself watching every episode, but I won't cry if I miss one.
Heroes repeat is about to start on BBC2!
Speaking of Wendy and Lisa, I do love the music they do for this show. I've been trying to find out if there's a soundtrack available, but I can't find anything.
Kick arse show. Pity it's only on once a week. I hate the woman who is on the run from the loan shark, though. What an annoying bitch!
I'm loving this, and it's rapidly become about the only thing on during the whole week that I make a point of watching.
Have to say, though, that especially after this week's episode, it reminds me so much more of Wildcards than Watchmen.
D.P.7. springs unbidden to my mind, but I am enjoying it in a detached way.
Too many of the 1-D characters are horribly annoying - Cheerleader (AKA Jessica from Malcolm in the Middle), Nurse Peter, Junkie Isaac, ugh I could go on - but Hiro more than makes up for it with his insane likeability.
Is it wrong to find that FBI chick highly attractive?
I don't think so. At least, I hope it isn't.
Liked this show a lot & thought season 1 ended well - not perfectly - but well.
Compared to LOST it delivers, week after week, episode after episode, with a real feeling of knowing where it's going. Unlike LOST, which is clearly making it up on the fly.
BSG is still my current SF fave though.
the news on BSG is the final season is now going to be split into two lots of 10 episodes with a near year break in between the two, fraking idiots when you got a shopw this hot you dont break momentum like that. it works out that the final episodes now not due to play in the US till the end of 2009 which means no season 4 box set till some time in 2010 is the world even going to be around by then?
CU Radbacker
Damn but that's irritating. I thought it was going to finish in one go, which was refreshing in that they weren't going to draw it out. It'll still finish before bloody LOST though....
"Compared to LOST it delivers"
It's very much 'son of Lost'.
Not much story and a lot of dwelling on a large cast and the interactions between them while trundling along to a vague and disambiguous end. It's biggest star also happens to be the geek.
Some people at work have given up, but I'm not watching much else and I'd still be watching Lost, despite my feelings on that, if it hadn't gone to murdoch.
Personally I feel rather old fashioned expecting a story in each episode rather than stuff just happening.
"Not much story"
Strewth, the plot races along, with big revelations & developments in every episode AND there's a fairly intricate 30 year-or-so backstory underpinning it all.
Also, with LOST you just know they won't be able to account for all the rum happenings; the main writer already said he never intended to supply a "unified field" resolution, which suggests they're going to keep piling on the mysteries without ever having to worry about them making overall sense.
Hence my feeling it's a bit of a con, albeit irritatingly well-done enough to drag me back after I've forsworn it twice.
It is quite a modern phenomenon (or seems that way to me) to have such large story arcs in series.
Star Trek (next gen) used to occasionally stretch itself to a 2-parter, but generally the status quo is maintained so that, at the end of each episode, Picard is merrily pointing vaguely at the view screen, smiling his "I've seen them naked" wry smile and carefully enunciating "engage", secure in the knowledge that his Quo-Drive will get him out of any trouble he may face in the future (within approximately 40 minutes of meeting it).
Lost is well named, and frustrating as all hell. Nothing ever happens. Reveals lead nowhere but blind alleys. It's like watching a glacier come towards you and trying to panic.
I like Heroes - it's got a massive arc, it doesn't have self-contained episodes, but it doesn't tend to have blind alley plot threads either. Everything ties together. I was a bit upset with the final episode of Series #1, but I posted about that on a nearby spoiler thread.
I gave up with lost very early on because nothing really happened.It just didnt live up to its potential or maybe it did just get "lost".It had a few good ideas in it though which should have been explored and expanded upon.
"It's like watching a glacier come towards you and trying to panic."
That is the phrase that has most perfectly summed up what Lost is to me.I feel unburdened!
Anyway - I'm liking Heroes but it hasn't yet become unmissable,although it's developing at a nice pace IMO.I think it does ride close to the fine line between bunkum and quality.
M.
I am really enjoying Heroes however I have one minor gripe.
As a comics fan I can see that the paintings drawn by Issac are obviously drawn by Tim Sale (big buddies with the producer Jeph Loeb). Each time I see one of the pics I think to myself "Oh a Tim Sale, this is a work of fiction".
It takes me out of the story briefly and like I say its a minor gripe.
The nearest thing I can compare it to is when you watch a costume drama and there is a painting of a charcter and its supposed to look old but it always looks like it was knocked up by the props department in an afternoon. Also faked old fashioned photos always look wrong.
Is anyone still watching Season One on BBC2?
I'd fallen behind with my watching it but caught up yesterday and watch Company Man which I believe was Ep 17. It was really good and I must admit to crying like a big baby at the end. Not for long like but you know.
Yeah I am
I love it to bits and my key suspicion of how it pans out deals with Peter V Silar
Yup, company man is one of my fave eps. It asks way more questions than it answers, but was totally rivetting.
Here's hoping that season 2 isn't as bad as I'm hearing.
Bolt-01- managing to avoid most spoilers.
I'm liking season 2, not as riviting as the first season but still miles better than most other shite on T.V.
The last 5 or so episodes of Season 1 are just spectacular so stay watching true belivers.
CU Radbacker
Having just watched the last one on BBC3, "0.07%" I just think they should have made a Watchman TV series if they were going to steal so much of it uncredited.
It's still an okay show, I'm not sure it deserves any fuss made about it though.
Ha. When i had that thought I was really dissappointed. However I don't trust Lindeman at all so I think it is all hot air.
So far this is the most enjoyable series on the telly box in ages for me. Almost as good as Deadwood.
Here hoping they realise that it is better to burn out than fade away...
Bolt-01
Never mind OzyLindermas, they've clearly all read X-Men-Days of Future Past, and The Age of Apocalypse too!
I'm not complaining like, that was the best episode yet.
Its rollicking along so quickly its hard to keep an eye on the subtitles or Chapter number for that matter.
I dig the score too.
When " To be continued" comes along and the voot voot voot voo music follows.
Brilliant. Can't wait for next week. * bites fist.
Well, I can wait really . But you know?
"Here's hoping that season 2 isn't as bad as I'm hearing."
It isn't. I'm up to Episode 7 and it's passing the time quite adequately. Apparently, it's blatantly robbing a bunch of stuff that happened in mainstream Marvel titles after I stopped reading American comics, so YMMV if you recognize the plagiarism, but otherwise ...
Otherwise, I'm finding it perfectly entertaining in an unchallenging kind of way.
Cheers!
Jim
season 2 is getting better. Just watched episode 8 and it's starting to gel quite nicely - stick with it!
Not as good as Dexter though.
"...smiling his "I've seen them naked" wry smile..."
Heh- I can actually hear him saying that in my head now.
Satch- I know what you mean. Very Days of future Past. Wonder If Byrne feels cheated?
Some interesting quetions about how time travel seems to work in this story as well.
I'm enjoying this loads, btw.
Bolt-01
"season 2 is getting better. Just watched episode 8 and it's starting to gel quite nicely - stick with it!
Not as good as Dexter though."
Get out of my head! ;-D
"Apparently, it's blatantly robbing a bunch of stuff that happened in mainstream Marvel titles after I stopped reading American comics, so YMMV if you recognize the plagiarism, but otherwise ... "
Pff. And you call yourself a writer?
It's not 'plagurism', it's a HOMAGE.
"YMMV"?
Where the fuck did my message go?
Ho hum.
Anyway, leaving aside the priceless bon mots that the message board had destroyed, to answer your question (again):
Your Mileage May Vary.
HTH!
Cheers
Jim
I'd assumed (Y-something) Make Mine Marvel. D'oh!