Watched ep1 last night.
Wasn't impressed.
Heh, have you ever thought of running your own Roger Mellie-style TV reviews column, Ump?
"Next week, we take a look at the upcoming Doctor Who special: SHITE!"
I quite enjoyed it when I saw it, though it was a bit slow bedding in characters into their new surroundings.
Although, according to Wikipedia, the makers didn't do their homework when it comes to one of the new characters. Apparently Japan only had dealings with Holland in the 17th century.
SPOLIERS! Some of us are still only watching this for the first time on the BBC. Sheesh.
Guess I'd be better just avoiding any thread about this...
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Come on, I was at least trying to be vague.
I've read the story details for the next few weeks and it looks like it'll all pan out in the end.
Guess I'll just have to try and be a bit more patient.
SHOME SHPOILERSH (ISH)
Not very subtle in some of it's exposition, is it? "We're gonna bring this company down!" isn't really the kind of thing people say several months into a masterplan, I imagine - certainly not over an unsecure mobile phone. I would have thought it was the kind of thing they got out of their system *before they start* the masterplan. The Irish accents were a bit... hm.
Are they REALLY going to rip off the 'Colossus' little sister has the Legacy Virus' storyline from X-Men? That was turgid and dull even in comics - god knows how it'll pan out on the screen.
Heroes has always struck me as being a victim of it's own hype - it's an okay show that's never shown the level of originality or invention it's actually credited with, presumably because of the traditionally non-sci-fi audience that watches it and perhaps thinks that a great many things that have been seen so many times (the Watchmen riff or the episode set in the future, for instance) have never been done before on tv.
BSG and X-Files ploughed much the same furrow, and like both those shows, if you aren't in on the lovin' you might look upon it as rather too po-faced and slightly ashamed of it's fantasy leanings.
That accent is like being stabbed in the ear every time I hear it.
There are lots of Englishmen in Cork. By statistical probability, at least one of them has to be a robber.
I quite liked the episode, it didn't have the same urgency as the series 1 pilot, and it seems like it may take a while for the "big season plot" to become obvious this time around, but still I liked it.
Some Ep 1 Spoilers (if you haven't seen it, and if you haven't, what are you doing on this board).....
I particularly enjoyed the scenes with Mr. Bennet gritting his teeth at his crappy day job.
Also, what was the deal with Nathan briefly seeing his own badly scarred reflection? Is this the "wounds within", or was he actually burned, and somehow healed?
And as much as I liked that final scene, WHY did they attempt the Irish accents? AND they threw in phrases like "For the love o' Pete!" . All it needed was a "Stroke me clover!" and the circle would have been complete. Usually I've noticed it's better for Americans not to even bother trying with the Irish accent.
In fairness, I only know a couple of Japanese phrases, and there were still a few bits of spoken dialogue I noticed were inaccurately subtitled (Hiro doesn't say a four-letter word, for a start, he says he's in "a pinch"), so there's probably Japanese speakers who think his and George Takei's Japanese accents are bloody terrible.
The Iraqi bloke in Lost has a wandering accent, too. he sounds very English in a lot of scenes.
Well, there'd be a reason for that...
I also noticed that the awful "english" guy, when speaking Japanese, seems to do it with a definate American accent.
I'm guessing this will be on BBC sooner rather than later though.
Depends if they want to pay for the second series. A good barometer of this is if Jo Whiley ever suddenly stops gushing about how brilliant it is for all of five fucking seconds - chances are the Beeb have dropped it (see also 24, The Simpsons).
The BBC have definitely bought S2 and will show it in 2008.
In fact, I think they bought it before S1 aired.
- Steve
BBC bought first UK screening rights for series 2 at the same time as they bought the repeats of series one. 24 and The Simpsons were both Fox productions, who raised the price to the point where the BBC argued they could no longer afford to bid for the rights when they came up for renewal (purposely so in the case of 24, allegedly, as Fox wanted to move the show to the News International-owned Sky, a practice later repeated with Lost, despite the significant drop in viewing figures).
Just to be smug, we're getting this Fast tracked to our local station(free to air not cable) and it starts next week which only puts us about two weeks behind the US. They're also fast trakcking Bionic Woman(next week)so I'll gove that a go as it'll be on before Lost. season 3 of Prison Break started this week too(though I dont watch that).
No sign of BSG season 3 at all so I guess it'll be DVD for that one.
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Saw episode 2 last night, liked it, but they're still no closer to fixing those monstrous Irish accents, in fact they just added some more people trying to use them.
But it occured to me that they seem to be lifting a bit more from Watchmen this series; In series 1, we had a shady genius who has a plan to unite the world by manufacturing a disaster. Now, in Series 2 so far, it seems someone is trying to pick off members of the older generation of heroes. Granted, they have many influences, and they've been able to give it all a good feel of originality, but still....
There's no such thing as original ideas anymore - we're just gradually boiling everything down into one great big melting-pot of mediocrity - or so the 14 year-old kid on Stargate SG1 says, anyway, and if *anyone* knows about great big melting-pots of mediocrity, it's the writers of Stargate SG1.
It's down to whether or not it entertains you, I suppose. You could argue that beyond this, it doesn't matter if it's good or bad, but I'd like to think that so far, the good in Heroes outweighs the bad. I'm quite enjoying Hiro's journey through feudal Japan - complete with English accent.
Hiro's journey - "hero's journey" - I just got that!
That's dead clever. Whatever they're paying these writers, it's not enough.
For the life of me, I can't figure out whether or not the sarcasm in your second post also applies to your first.
Assuming that it doesn't, I agree with you, and I'm not complaining as such. I love Heroes, and even with the obvious similarities, I think it's a great story. All I'm saying is, they got away with it once. Is it a good idea to go back to the same well again?
Episode 2 improved on ep1.
And yes, those Irish accents, why do Americans think the Irish say 'Boyo'??
James Cromwells character in LA Confidential did the same thing. I couldn't work out if he was supposed to be Irish or Whelch!
Sorry that should be *welsh* i think.
God I'm tired.
"For the life of me, I can't figure out whether or not the sarcasm in your second post also applies to your first."
If it entertains you, does it matter?
But so you know - no.
Wel, no spoilers on this thread has certainly spoiled a lot for me so far, cheers!
Well there have only been two episodes so far, how are we actually supposed to say anything about Series 2 without sailing into spoiler territory?
No spoilers from me.. I'm just saying if I like it or not.
But yes, the thread says NO SPOILERS so people, if you are including some sort of plot point or whatever please uses the spoiler tag. That's what it's there for.
No spoilers from me.. I'm just saying if I like it or not.
But yes, the thread says NO SPOILERS so people, if you are including some sort of plot point or whatever please uses the spoiler tag. That's what it's there for.
Bugger... double post... sorry...
Just watched episode 3.
Doesn't look good for Mr. Bennett
Or for anyone watching it really.
Quality meet plughole.
Yeah, I'm starting to notice a bit of a second season slump. I'm still watching it, and I'll keep at it, but by three episodes in last year, the show had laid out exactly what the season's story was gonna be. Now, three episodes in, it seems to be a loose bundle of plot strands that aren't really going anywhere. They need to get their shit together....
And the Irish scenes are just KILLING me!!! Peter demands his "dollars" back? Do the writers have any clue where they're supposed to be?
Euro dollars?
He must have mumbled that part.
liked episode two, thiought they were going to riff on Futurama for a bit there and they still might.
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Art, perhaps you'd prefer this version of Heroes.
Link: MAD TV Heroes parody
I daresay it's starting to look up a bit after episode 4. They haven't totally turned it around yet, and there were more than a few bits that just felt like time-wasting (Yay! Claire has a boyfriend! Piss off........) But it does feel like they're finally starting to get some important stuff moving.
Just watched ep 9.
It's picked up quite a bit.
I feel smug though its pretty p[redictable but I picked the Big Bad of this season after about episode 3. I think we're getting a flashback episode this week.
As a whole its definatly not as good as first season but still a hell of a lot better than Prison Break and alot of the other trash they try to pass off as entertainment. The new Hero's are a bit pox too.
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