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Title: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Rob Spalding on 26 November, 2007, 12:05:10 AM
There is a six page preview at Newsarama.

Looks like Ennis could do with getting back to his 2000ad roots.
Just think, in the time that preview takes up and old Dare story would have found the monster.  Fought the monster.  Been moral and good.  Had a cup of tea.

Link: The preview

Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Floyd-the-k on 26 November, 2007, 01:53:48 AM
looks very slow and sleepy by Ennis' standards....where's the Irishness?
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Hoagy on 26 November, 2007, 10:22:43 AM
A bit non-plussed about the art. Did Ennis write in the fox animism for a reference to homelife or what the future holds for him.


What do they call those little epithanyl moments?


I had the same feeling this writer/artist is portraying when I was skiving school. It was in the snow though. On a cliff edge.It was like telling me something. " Don't come any nearer to the edge of this cliff you fool," maybe. Or maybe like Dan, it was more, you are not fulfilling your true potential here.
A guardian.
A guide.


What's opening call on the bally thing then?
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: M.I.K. on 27 November, 2007, 09:17:39 PM
Page seven is where things start to get slightly more interesting.

Link: 7 page preview and Garth Ennis interview

Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 November, 2007, 10:17:36 PM
I like Ennis' stuff generally, so I'll be giving this a go, even though I never really got into the 2000ad incarnation and I'm ambivalent towards the character.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: opaque on 27 November, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
That 7th page is what is making me think I might take an interest in this series.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2007, 10:28:51 PM
I honestly thought the 2000ad character was the way forward.

I hope Ennis at least acknowledges the spacesuit at some point. I dunno, a moon mission maybe.

Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: dweezil2 on 27 November, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
Maybe I should dig out the old back Progs and give it a reappraisal-it's been an age since I last read it.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Robin Low on 28 November, 2007, 07:31:48 PM
I enjoyed reading what Ennis had to say (he comes across as a better man that some of his stories suggest), and I liked the preview. I stopped being a comics fan around 1996 when I didn't have the money to waste and limited myself to being a Dredd-fan, but I'll probably pick this up when it's collected.

I think the Talbot variant cover is great - the face Talbot's given him isn't Classic Dare, but it's familiar and gives a sense of genuine decency and nobility. The Garry Leach one just isn't Dare, original or 2000AD, as far as I can see.

Regards

Robin
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: pauljholden on 28 November, 2007, 08:50:07 PM
S'not Gary Leach, it's Greg Horn (official site here).

-pj
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Leigh S on 28 November, 2007, 09:23:13 PM
Having flipped through issue 1 in Nostalgia, it seemed very much like the Morrison Dare - complete with not at all disguised current politics - Blair for example, and the Mekon as Bin Laden.  
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Ignatzmonster on 29 November, 2007, 05:28:04 AM
Gawd damn I hate Greg Horn. Don't hate a lot of comic artists, they work so hard for so little recognition so I'll give a pass even to the ones I'm not as fond of. But it's okay to hate Greg Horn because he's not a comic artist, couldn't tell a story to save his life. He just draws smooth characterless covers. F**k Greg Horn.

Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 November, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Just got back from the town with my copy. I noticed that they had a varient cover but I couldn't be arsed paying more for that.
Anyway I shall read it tonight and see how it goes!
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Marbles on 30 November, 2007, 08:47:08 PM
Read it on the way to work this morning - bloody fantastic! Garth really nailed the right tone for this - cracking stuff.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 November, 2007, 08:49:31 PM
Mine's on order, very much looking forward to reading it.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Marbles on 30 November, 2007, 09:27:33 PM
It's the ifanboy 'pick of the week' ! should help it publicity-wise in the US. There's a review on the link below & the podcast will be online Monday...

Link: ifanboy pick of the week - dan dare

Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: Tweak72 on 30 November, 2007, 11:34:44 PM
based on the first 6 pages i am in then i saw the 7th page and i am double in
what Mr Ennis is good at is pacing like some of the best stuff in comics (IMO Morre and Ellis execel at this too) the best stuff is not going for the "money shot" too quickly
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 December, 2007, 02:52:08 AM
Thoroughly enjoyed this read.
My only picky bit is with the art when we see the bridge of the Destroyer H.M.S. Achilles.
It seems to have railings that appear out of nowhere, cups that change hands and disappear & the name Weston Digital which is on the back of one of the computers is a mirror image.
Minor gripes I know but I noticed these things straight away.
It must be my training kicking in!
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 01 December, 2007, 06:18:30 AM
Is this true... that it's been considered for big screen adaption.
Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: TordelBack on 01 December, 2007, 06:57:15 AM
Hmmm, actually bought Issue 1 based on the shiny Talbot cover rather than what I thought was a missing-the-point preview.  The actual was a lot better than I'd imagined, and in fact the preview pages were IMHO a spectacularly unrepresentative selection.

That said, I didn't care for it too much.  In part it's the art, which while detailed and beuatifully finished just doesn't suit - it feels like a pastiche of Weston's Ministry of Space, rather than evoking the feel of Hampson and Co., but falls short by having rubbery faces that shift and distort from panel to panel.

On the other hand, it is pretty and colourful, so I could certainly live with it if the script was strong.  MILD SPOILERS FOLLOW< BUT NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THE PLOT:  Unfortunately, so far it seems like just another grim'n'gritty 'realistic' revision, without going for broke with the utter bleakness of Morrison's Dare.  

I'm sure there's a pitch document somewhere that reads "Like the new Battlestar Galactica, we'll take the familiar campy characters elements and give them a modern sensibility and political relevance".  Nu-BSG is the closest comparison I could find, and while that's not any bad thing in itself, in the context of Dan Dare, well... snore...  

And now some specific spoilers...

I cannot see why I would want to read a Dan Dare story where two-thirds of the Earth is a nuclear wasteland and Spaceman Digby looks like Count Dooku and talks like John Humphries.

Competently done, but not my thing so far.



Title: Re: Dan Dare preview
Post by: ukdane on 15 January, 2008, 05:09:58 PM
It's only going to be 7 issues long. I thought it was ongoing.