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It's alive and well. I've jst picked up a copy from Gosh Comics and it looks fantastic! The colour stories look great too.

cool! Have to have a trip to Forbidden Planet, as they usually have em a tad cheaper than N & C and usually earlier too

Nah, I've got the stories from the original progs. Lazy bum that I am, I'm actually tempted to buy it so I won't have to leaf through dozens of progs to reach the end of the damn story!

so how complete is this?

It contains

Books 8,9 and 10
The Shape of Things to Come - Prog 824
Hammer of the Warlocks - Progs 901-903
Warlocks and Wizards - Prog 700
Enigmass Variations - Prog 723-729
Bride of the Warlock - Winter Special 92

Thank Torque it doesn't have the abysmal Nemesis and Deadlock in it!  Have to say, I'm now tempted.

Awww, shame they couldn't get the Deadlock strip in there, maybe they're saving that for a new ABC TPB.

- Steve

Wait, I've just realised what The Enigmass Variations is.  Bleurrghy.

no sign in Birminghams FP sadly

no sign in Birminghams FP sadly

Strange. Or popular. FP Glasgow had it last weekend when I was Christmas shopping ("Here you go Granny, just what you wanted.") and they've still got it today.

Excuse me if this sounds like a dumb question.

How were the colour stories done?

"Bride of the Warlock - Winter Special 92"

Yay!

"shame they couldn't get the Deadlock strip in there"

I suspect they wanted to end Nemesis on the iconic final frame from Kev, rather than an entire 10-part episode. I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see the Deadlock solo series show up in an ABCW collection at some point.

Its now in Nostalgia and Comics - Can i say wow! and ow!

The wow first - I love this stuff - The last book in particular is fab - Too short by half (feels like two books condensed into one just to meet the millenium), but a wonderfully appropriate "greatest hits" package.  The colour all looks good, especially considering the muddy progs that presumably some of this originated from.

The Ow... following on from the Strontium Dog volumes missing two stories and ending on a cliffhanger, this is not quite complete either.  Theres the hilarious (if inconsequential) "Tomb of Torquemada" story that ran in the poster prog featuring full colour art by Kev O'Neil of all people.

Ah well. That was in the list I sent over to Jon, but I guess it was omitted for some reason - most likely, due to printing issues. (If original artwork isn't around, some old stuff duplicates very badly, as anyone with the DC Swimming in Blood trade will know.)

Mind you, I don't have my copy yet (*sob*), so that's rather poo. (Kano yomped on in yesterday. No sign of Red Seas or Mandroid as yet in these here parts.

Possibly it was a printing thing, though the original was printed on very glossy high quality paper in comaprison to the Carl Critchlow and Langley stuff for example.  I'd have thought that would have been one of the easier ones to get good copies of. It was reprinted in the Best of 2000AD special edition from 2000, so i'll just have to read it there once I'm through.

Brilliant collection though - just a shame what could ahve been 100% perfect had to have that one small omission.

I just got mine two days ago...

 I'm rather pleased with it and like the colourised pages as well. They have worked out rather well.

Just few questions while I'm working out if my copy is not misbound or mising pages.  Hard to tell unless I read it. myself I guess. Though I owuld to fiund out now, rather than later.

Of the two black title pages deviders at the beginning of Book Nine 'DeathBringer'. Who's face is that on the second page.

I t would apaer that Bok Ten is mssing from mine. How can I be sure.

The story called 'Jenny's Choice' is the last before the colourised 'The Shape of Things to Come' begins.

How else can I be sure?

 well......

After further inspection Book Ten 'The Final Conflict' clocks in after 'Hammer of the Warlocks' One of the two colourised stories shown thus far.

I would ask if that book Ten should have been slipped in before the two colourised stories, though I notice that it works out numerically with the prog numbers.

I'm just alittle confused by the order of  Nemesis titles in the list Rob Prosser wrote in his post above. Well it works out up til nine then you have to skip over ten and so it goes....

There's what looks like Nicole Kidman making cameo appaerance of page three of part seven of the 'Final Conflict'. (I'll put that on the other thread later.)

'Warlocks and Wizardss' Check....

'Enigmass Variations' Check....

'Bride of Warlock' Check....

The latter is a welcome return to my collection eversince that Winter Sci/Fi speical of mine went missing from my collection years earlier.

Favorite quotes 'Give it plenty of tongue'.

This half colourised volume is a good enough reason to complete the entire run up til now.

Even with those annoying double page spreads.

No, Thyrllseeker, the order in the book is almost all correct - Shape of Things to Come and Hammer of the Warlocks do indeed take place before Book 10.

Chronologically, the order they take place is -
Book 8
Book 9
The Shape of Things to Come
Warlocks and Wizards
Enigmass Variations
Bride of the Warlock
Hammer of the Warlocks
Book 10

Ignoring those two (not very good) ABC stories, the only story in the collection printed out of sequence is Bride of the Warlock, which should be read before Hammer of the Warlocks.

Are you sure?

In mine,

The order is.

Book Eight, 'Purity's Story'

Covering Progs 558-566

Book Nine, 'DeathBringer'.

Covering Progs 586-608

'The Shape of Things to Come'

Prog 824.

'Hammer of the Warlocks'

Covering Progs 901-903.

'The Final Conflict'

Covering Progs 1165-1173 & 2000.

Thnext three stories are added in as 'Bonus Material.'

Not sure why the printers did this, though it seems more deliberate than a mistake.

'Warlocks & Wizards'

Prog 700.

'The Enigmass Variations'

Covering Progs 723-729.

'Bride of the Warlock'

The 1992 Winter Speical.


The 'Bonus Material' should have been added in before 'The Shape of Things to Come'.

Though I'm not exactly sure if 'Bride of the Warlock' is in the right place within the 'Bonus Material'. Though definitly agree with you that particular storey along with 'Warlocks & Wizards'
and 'Enigmass Variations' should have gone before 'Shape of Things to Come'.

Now that I think of it that way, perhaps mine was misbound or both of ours were in different ways.

What should constitute 'Bonus Material' if they are only sticking in other stories merely to have them out of reading order.

I would save that 'Bonus Material' for speical edition one off's story's that don't really fit the continueity of what story's had been following from one another in the regular progs.
I would have also added some of those colourised covers and scans as well. ( See picture below.)

So what type of monkey buisness has been going on in the offices of Tharg?

If he happens to read this could he tell me wether I have been sent a dud or what?

Perhaps a official listing of the contents of thsi volume in their official order.


 

Link: The True order of Nemesis

No, that's how every copy was done.

Warlocks and Wizards and Enigmass Variations  don't really affect or matter to the chronology, and frankly just aren't very good stories, so I don't mind not counting them.

Bearing that in mind, the only story actually out of sequence, like I said, is Bride of the Warlock, which should take place between Shape of Things to Come and Hammer of the Warlocks. I suspect it was done for reasons of keeping the colour stories in more-easily-printable blocks.

What about your Book Ten?

Yours is at the end or is that a mistake.

Mine is the fith story.

Fitting the chronolodgy of the progs if you disregard the bonus material.

What about your Book Ten?

Yours is at the end or is that a mistake.

No, like I said, exactly the same as yours. If you want to know how other copies were printed, you could do no worse than check the indexes for the books on this evry site...

Link: Nemesis volume 3

Thanks for that.

Only reminds me that I should check my entire collection.

Holy crap....

i didn't know Chris weston did a nemesis story that was a nice surprise when I got the book...

and I just love how Torque deals with that news reporter....

only the weston could draw something as depraved as that

Link: Which book would that be?

Weston painted the story where Nemesis cures Purity.

Oh, I should have noticed that. Thought the art looked familar.