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Title: LXG: The Black Dossier
Post by: wrly_bird on 09 April, 2008, 01:39:46 PM
Bought this last month (from London's Gosh Comics). Am half-way through and finding it monumentally dull. Anyone else having the same experience...
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 April, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
try this thread...

Link: its black and its...

Title: Watchmen update... Part 2
Post by: Goaty on 09 April, 2008, 02:41:55 PM
here is link to video journel No1...
it of builing/painting the stages... oh they do everythings in the book!

even that kidnapping scene and prison riot...

Nice to see start of filming for The Comedian scene at 2.16. :)

Link: Who Watches the Watchmen

Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier......
Post by: TordelBack on 09 April, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
Anyone else having the same experience...

Not I.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier.........
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 April, 2008, 08:22:25 PM
It's really just an LOEG history/guide book unlike the other narrative driven volumes.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 09 April, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
I think you'll find it's LOEG round these here parts, my good fellow. LXG brings back too many memories of that film...
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: TordelBack on 09 April, 2008, 08:33:11 PM
It's really just an LOEG history/guide book unlike the other narrative driven volumes.

I confess I initially thought this too, but IMHO it really isn't - it has a good central thread running through the various vignettes, many of which are quite brilliant in themselves.  If it has a problem, it's the enormous density which is quite unexpected in a comic, particularly after the rather decompressed Book 2 - it might have worked slightly better as 6 or 7 separate issues.  But it's far more than a history.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: johnnystress on 09 April, 2008, 08:57:52 PM
I started this, found it really hard going and put it down, promising myself Id get into when I had more time

I glance at it every night and think...not yet

Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 April, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
***I confess I initially thought this too, but IMHO it really isn't - it has a good central thread running through the various vignettes, many of which are quite brilliant in themselves.***


Yes it has a narrative, which I never denied, but the narrative is latent and in the background unlike the other volumes where the narrative is to the fore and drives them. It's the reverse in the case of the Black Dossier. The saturation of FACTions is what compels the Black Dossier parseing out little narrative connections in each section. The sheer amount of fictional info far outweighs the narrative therefore cannot be judged the same way as the other books.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...
Post by: wrly_bird on 09 April, 2008, 09:33:19 PM
Maybe it's just me. I've got a Dredd collection I'm dying to read after this and am finding the pace of 'LOEG': The Black Dossier just a little too slow - oh, great, another four pages of dense single-space type full of undramatised backstory that seems to have little or no bearing on the story in hand. Patience, my young padowan...
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier......
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 09 April, 2008, 11:44:03 PM
Maybe it's just me. I've got a Dredd collection I'm dying to read after this and am finding the pace of 'LOEG': The Black Dossier just a little too slow

Round these parts, you may also wish to rethink those inverted commas.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier.........
Post by: LARF on 10 April, 2008, 08:10:03 AM
Mrs Larf thought I was reading porn, and gave me her look, it was difficult to explain.

I liked it though, and I'm going back for a more thorough read - what did everyone think of the 3D effect?
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...
Post by: wrly_bird on 10 April, 2008, 09:12:58 AM
What's with all the 'round these parts'? Is Brian Dennehy about to escort me to the edge of town...?
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier......
Post by: LARF on 10 April, 2008, 10:16:33 AM
Meaning: are you the type that, when describing something, often places both hands, palm forwards, retains index and middle figure in the air whilst tucking the other two behind you thumb(s) and then proceed to wiggle the index and middle fingers?

Cos we don't stand for any of that type of psychobabble shite round here, we're down to earth - in fact we roll in the stuff, we're slavish pigs to comics, we don't wear square glasses and write poetry about how fed up we are with the fact the girl next door does not recognise me and I'm sick of monkey spanky over pictures of EMO erotic skater ladies who ignore me. We are HARD, we ARE British Comics. So no more of that pansy apostrophie nonsense, we are black and white line art to your scribbly light love pencils!*

* we are also sarcastic
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier.........
Post by: TordelBack on 10 April, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
What's this "we" business, paleface?
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 10 April, 2008, 01:06:16 PM
Yeah, my new glasses would beg to differ.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: Mardroid on 10 April, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I don't do the finger thing.

When writing a quotation or even the title of a book, it applies though. That's what quotes were made for. So 'LoEG: The Black Dossier' (or double quotes) is ok.... Unless I'm doing the quotes in the sarcastic "Yeah right that's a great book", context.  Not that I would do that having not read it yet (or even if I had.)
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: TordelBack on 10 April, 2008, 08:16:39 PM
{A Pedantic Editor Writes} Since the advent of DTP the use of inverted commas for book titles has largely been replaced by italics or even underline for book titles, with 'inverted commas' used for articles or entries within books or journals.  Not relevant here, but unpublished or manuscript material tends to go unadorned. {/A Knob Shuts Up}  

But welcome, freckle monster, we're just having fun with you.  Your opinions on LoEG:TBD are lucid (if utterly wrong), and you haven't claimed Moore/Wagner/Mills/Holden is a worthless hack (yet), so you're ahead of most of us on points alone.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: TordelBack on 10 April, 2008, 08:24:51 PM
Bugger, just checked Koom Skree and discovered that freckle monster has been here for yonks. My sincere apologies for implying that yer a noob, sir.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 10 April, 2008, 11:52:51 PM
{A Pedantic Editor Writes} Since the advent of DTP the use of inverted commas for book titles has largely been replaced by italics or even underline for book titles, with 'inverted commas' used for articles or entries within books or journals. Not relevant here, but unpublished or manuscript material tends to go unadorned. {/A Knob Shuts Up}

I believe you'll still find it in some of the Colonials' publications, though - the New York Times, for one.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: satchmo on 11 April, 2008, 12:30:23 AM
I liked how it's the Official Handbook of the LoEG Universe(tm), starting at the beginning of time and going right up to the 1950s!
The 3D section is amazing, especially 'The Ambassador'.

I spent most of Christmas reading it and the thrill power, it was magic.
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 April, 2008, 12:45:15 AM
I'm not adding anything remotely constructive, but I didn't particularly enjoy the first League of Extraordinary Gentlemen series. Do I need help?
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: Trout on 11 April, 2008, 12:46:04 AM
Yes. The ambulance is on the way.

The Black Dossier's bloody good.

FYI, anyone struggling to get into it can just read the comic strip. It works on its own.

- Trout
Title: Re: LXG: The Black Dossier...........
Post by: satchmo on 11 April, 2008, 12:50:30 AM
Yeah if you're struggling, read the comic strip and then you can always dip back into the dossier sections later. You absolutely have to read the disclaimer at the beginning in Newspeak though. It's hysterical.

THIS WARN YOU