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Did DREDD or JUDGE ANDERSON ever encounter the Cthulu mythos by bonkers author H.P Lovecraft ?
I watched monster movie 'Cloverfield' and came up with this idea since the sooner the monster ate the annoying brats in 'Cloverfield' the better.

The HELLBOY series of comics and films seems to be influenced to some degree by Lovecraftian horror and I've seen a pretty awful looking film entitled 'CTHULU' advertised on YOUTUBE so will we see more horror type stories in 2000A.D ?

Tell us, oh mighty THARG and bring meaning to our lives !

Howard himself was a main character in the fondly-remembered Necronauts, and several stories have touched on various Elder Gods and Old Ones.  Perhaps most notable was Zenith, where the main antagonists were the Lloigor, and Robert's son [spoiler]turned into Iok Sotot (a thin disguise for Yog Sotthoth, the Lurker at the Threshold, the Key and the Gate and the Guardian of the Gate, who froths as primal slime in the nuclear chaos beyond the nethermost outposts of time and space etc.)[/spoiler].  But I don't think Dredd himself has had much truck with Ol' Tentacle Features, possibly because Ry'leh is already an Iso-Block in all but name.

Currently reading the recent commemorative "Necronomicon" and whereas I've been aware of Lovecraft for a long time (seem to vaguely remember dabbling with 'Call of Cthulu' at school) it's the first time I've actually read any. What a great writer, really enjoying it.

You could certainly have a Dredd story involving the Cthulu mythos and wheras I'm not entirely certain about the geographical boundaries of MC1, I would have thought that the areas that Lovecraft concentrates on i.e New England, Vermont and so on are pretty damn close to being part of the city. So how about cuttlefish headed monstrosities in some sector or other, could be nicely confusing what with the current mutie influx.

"Mutie ID creep!"

"Awfully sorry officer but I am a transdimensional eater of souls" it said in a voice like the buzzing of hornets. "Um...diplomatic immunity?"

"Drokk"

Quote from: "Kerrin"Currently reading the recent commemorative "Necronomicon" and whereas I've been aware of Lovecraft for a long time (seem to vaguely remember dabbling with 'Call of Cthulu' at school) it's the first time I've actually read any. What a great writer, really enjoying it.

You could certainly have a Dredd story involving the Cthulu mythos and wheras I'm not entirely certain about the geographical boundaries of MC1, I would have thought that the areas that Lovecraft concentrates on i.e New England, Vermont and so on are pretty damn close to being part of the city. So how about cuttlefish headed monstrosities in some sector or other, could be nicely confusing what with the current mutie influx.

"Mutie ID creep!"

"Awfully sorry officer but I am a transdimensional eater of souls" it said in a voice like the buzzing of hornets. "Um...diplomatic immunity?"

"Drokk"

Dabbled with Cthulu at school eh? Admit it Kerrin, your just waiting till 'the stars are right !'

QuoteWhat a great writer, really enjoying it.

He is indeed.
The Rats in the Walls and Dreams of the Witch house are two of the best, scariest tales ever.

However, be wary of his non-Cthulu stuff... there's one in one of the omnibus editions about cats on the moon or something that is just plain bad.

Cheers your Lordship, I'll bear that in mind. And Mr.SYSTEM when the stars are right there's a Shoggoth with your name on it. You can run, you can hide but always will come the plip-plopping of ancient fishy feet. MWAA-HAA-HAA-HAAAAAAAA!!

Quote from: "Kerrin"Cheers your Lordship, I'll bear that in mind. And Mr.SYSTEM when the stars are right there's a Shoggoth with your name on it. You can run, you can hide but always will come the plip-plopping of ancient fishy feet. MWAA-HAA-HAA-HAAAAAAAA!!

MY GOD-THAT HAND THE WINDOW,THE WINDOW   AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHRGFGGGHH ![/color]

Did I really start this long forgotten thread? Blimey, looks like Cthulu's trying to make contact or is it spam? !

And it will sink back to the inky depths until the stars are right...

I though Star gods from the Slaine Time Killer arc were suspiciously  LoveCraftian.

Guledig, which happens to mean 'The Great Ruler or High King' of Britain of something like that.

The Aten. That is supposed to be 'The Great Sun Disk' of Egyptian mytholodgy.

Grimnismal. One of the many identities of the Norse God Odin and described as the soiled Prince of Thrones from pages of 'Time-Killer'.

Sorog - The one without pity -whose crimes shamed a star-system.

Niohoggar - The galactic gourmet who tried to suck the cosmic egg.

The Dreaded Gomboo - The World Doppelganger.

Even the Sea going Formorians remind me of the Deep Ones.

Also look up FINN for more work inspird by Cythulus Not that I have read as much of Finn that I have read of Slaine. The few Finn stories I have read always had some tentangled god being or some other worldly monster in it.

Wouldn't  Nemesis qualify also. He's one of the Dark Gods, isn't it.

IF...if I wanted to have a look at the Cthulu books, where would I start??

Quote from: "WoD"IF...if I wanted to have a look at the Cthulu books, where would I start??

Right here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnibus-Mountai ... 216&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnibus-Mountains-Madness-Novels-Lovecraft/dp/0586063226/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232543216&sr=8-3)

Quote from: "His Lordship rac"However, be wary of his non-Cthulu stuff... there's one in one of the omnibus editions about cats on the moon or something that is just plain bad.

Tish and piffle!

Modern revisionism, that's what that is, Mr Rac. His Dunsinian stuff is certainly an accquired taste (as is Dunsany himself), and a lot of his early tales are hard going, but it does him a diservice to write off all the non-mythos stuff.

The Temple is one of the creepiest things I've ever read, a ghost story set on a U-boat during World War One that unwillingly brings a curse down on itself. The power fails, the lights all go out, and the sub begins to sink, deeper and deeper into the ocean as the crew go quietly mad...

Then there's The Tomb(?), another sort-of ghost story in a fairly traditional mold but cracking nonethless, a barmy tale about a monstrosity that lives in a tower and a certain short serial by the name of Herbert West, Reanimator...

Fair enough, Mr Jimbo!

I've not read The Temple- but I shall track it, and The Tomb, down forthwith!

Quote from: "WoD"IF...if I wanted to have a look at the Cthulu books, where would I start??

I'd recommend this series - //http://www.amazon.co.uk/Call-Cthulhu-Stories-Penguin-Classics/dp/0141187069/ref=pd_sim_b_2 (three books in all, follow the links on that page to the other two).

There are infinite collections of Lovecraft about, but what I like about that series is that you not only get an introduction to each one about Lovecraft himself, but each story has an explanation of how it came about, what gave Lovecraft the idea, what his influences for each story were, and also has extensive annotations explaining the various Elder God-names and suchlike.

Even the worse stories don't seem so bad when you can understand where he was coming from and put it in context...

Quote from: "His Lordship rac"Fair enough, Mr Jimbo!

I've not read The Temple- but I shall track it, and The Tomb, down forthwith!

The Music of Erich Zann is another highly recommended non-mythos tale, if you've not already read that.

QuoteThe galactic gourmet who tried to suck the cosmic egg.

Maybe reading that was the moment I started to have doubts about the direction Slaine was taking.  No, wait, that was: "I take my power... straight from the Grid!".  (Shakes head sorrowfully in Pat's direction).

The beauty (hah) of Lovecraft is that he wrote so much, and a great deal of it is very brief, so it's very easy to find lots of quite brilliant stuff to enjoy, amidst a fair amount of dross.  Wait, am I talking about Mills again?

Thanks..the preview on Amazon looked good...will try and get a copy.

Well worth it WoD. Thoroughly enjoyed reading the collected works. The general standard of prose is high though there are a couple of stories that may well seem to drag for the modern reader. You'll definitely have extended your vocabulary by then end of it as well. Great stuff.

QuoteYou'll definitely have extended your vocabulary by then end of it as well.

So true!  I read the three collected volumes when I was 15 or 16 - I used to happily pass many English classes trying to find a way to use rugose, squamous, gibbous, tenebrous, chthonic etc. in my essays.  Yes, I was always this boring.

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I'm not even sure where to start with Cthulu. There are plenty of HP Lovecraft sites on the net with plenty of his stories.

I once brought the cheap novel. Five bucks it was!.

With the title 'COLD PRINT'

Anybody familer with that name. As it relates to a horror story at a Printing Press.

//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Print

Anyway, the rest of the book is filled mostly short horror stoires with the stuff of Cthulu or of similer ilk.

I beleive might still book around somewhere today.

//http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Print-Ramsey-Campbell/dp/0812516605

Of the stories, themselves I vividly recall the revolting fly like beings from "The Insects from Shaggai"

It months later when I saw the Dungeon n Dragons Rules for  "Call of Cthulu" for about fifteen dollars of which I didn't have at the time and when I had the money.

It was gone.

That book can still found on Ebay and perhaps a fantacy gaming store in your home town at a reasonable price.
If your Dungeon Dragons fanatic  that book is must have.

I was biddeing for some Cthulu art work books. Sort of like Cthulu artwork excyclopedia late last year and lost. Some of the art work shown inside was fantastic.

I  think this might be the book.

//http://www.amazon.com/Art-H-P-Lovecrafts-Cthulhu-Mythos/dp/1589943074

I'll be damned I could find it again on Ebay.

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Star Gods, I found the description said something about 'Tentagles of Cthuluu"

I guess there is a likeness there

Not really Dredd vs Cthulu, but Cthulu none the less. If you fancy an entertaining update on the old mythos thang you should check out Charles Stross' 'The Atrocity Archives' and 'The Jennifer Morgue'. Should appeal to most board members, kind of a Caballistics inc. hint to them, ish.

The Pan series of short horror stories (No 8) are some of the most amoral short stories I've ever read as some find Lovecraft too tame for their gory appetites.I love the half glimpsed horrors of Lovecraft but perhaps you might want something with more meat on the bone and the Pan series certainly delivers there. That said No 8 is the only one I've read so I've no idea if the other numbers in the series are as horrible and sick. As Hitchcok said 'Evil is everywhere.'