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Meg has landed. GN is Snow/Tiger.

3 letters. Shamefully none from boarder faces.

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Apart from the one by the Trout obviously...

Snow tiger was never a fave of mines but I can't complain at all especially with lawcon and the canon coming up

Quote from: "The monarch"Snow tiger was never a fave of mines but I can't complain at all especially with lawcon and the canon coming up

I'm hoping for the Deadlock solo outing that never made it into The Complete Nemesis 3 at some point...

I know most folks have never been too excited about Snow/Tiger, but in my Meg/Prog session today it was easily the most enjoyable read. Not sure why its not more popular really, the politics seem quite simplistic but when it comes to politics I'm a simpleton so it speaks to me on my level. Like newsround. Also the art is fantastic, I could look at Andy Clarke drawing gunfights and bullet holes until my eyes melted, he's one of those great artists who get me genuinely excited about an action scene. In the shitty mood I was in today sitting and reading it has turned my weekend around somewhat. Cracking.

As for my Meg opinions...

Cover: Very bold and eye-catching, perfect cover-fodder.

Dredd: Really atmospheric, found myself ooh-ing and ah-ing at the full page panel when Dredd goes investigating. A really great Texas Chainsaw/Hills Have Eyes vibe going on, loving it.

Tank Girl: "Twot". Even if the rest of the episode had been duff (which it wasn't, it was great fun) the use of that one sound effect would have justified its existence nicely. Also, a barmaid has recently started in one of our drinking spots who looks like the human embodiment of Tank Girl. Want.

Black Atlantic: I can't for the life of me remember any detail about the last BA series, but I'm sure it was fun. This looks like fun.

Anderson: This might be me forgetting as the month has gone on, but I can't remember this Mytch Shnyder fellow being mentioned before. If not it seems a bit out the blue, if he has then my memory banks are just rusting again. I love Boo Cook's art but I do prefer a grittier style with Anderson myself. Maybe because the stories tend to be very fantastical, the more wild art tends to make things a bit over the top, whereas a grittier and more realistic style grounds it and gives the story more weight. That's more personal taste than anything though and I still enjoyed it none-the-less. Glad its back next month, Anderson is where Grant's at his best these days.

Pretty good Meg overall, with Snow/Tiger making my day really. Haven't read the text yet, that's for bog-reading later.

Quote from: "Keef Monkey"I love Boo Cook's art but I do prefer a grittier style with Anderson myself. Maybe because the stories tend to be very fantastical, the more wild art tends to make things a bit over the top, whereas a grittier and more realistic style grounds it and gives the story more weight.

YES! I've been wondering why this doesn't quite work, and I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Quote from: "Keef Monkey"that's for bog-reading later

TOO MUCH INFORMATION KEEF!

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Quote from: "Keef Monkey"that's for bog-reading later

TOO MUCH INFORMATION KEEF!

What? The fortress I live in is circled by a 40 foot wide bog of eternal stench to repel invaders, I regularly have to take watch duties and guard the perimeter, I'm gonna read it then (bog-watch is pretty dull). What did I say?

Quote from: "Bolt-01"Apart from the one by the Trout obviously...

Ah, MIke Donachie of Perth is outed as King Trout who is celebrating his first megazine outing with this effort and fourth overall. He has two had two published in 2008 following the Letter of the week in Prog 1572.

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Quote from: "dandontdare"

Quote from: "Keef Monkey"that's for bog-reading later

TOO MUCH INFORMATION KEEF!

What? The fortress I live in is circled by a 40 foot wide bog of eternal stench to repel invaders

Do you poo in it?

Snigger.

I've only read the Dredd up to now 'cos we've got rellies staying (on a two comic day, the swines!!!) but I found Doherty's art to be a tale of two halves. The second, spooky half was great but fuck me, the first half was boooring! I hate to be harsh but Doherty is the only artist I know who could make a chasm-jumping lawmaster chase across the Cursed Earth as drab as this! Still, he more than made up for it with the second half of the tale...

No Megazine for me today, just the prog. Bah.

Quote from: "chris_askham"No Megazine for me today, just the prog. Bah.

You should call them up and askham where it is.


hahaahahahahahahaha - bet that's a new one on you!

I don't know what readers have against Snow/Tiger - it parodied the 'affirmative-action cast in macho nonsense plot' to good effect (albeit ten years too late to be topical), and the synopsis that appeared in the back of the Jock collection makes it sound absolutely hysterical.

QuoteYou should call them up and askham where it is.


hahaahahahahahahaha - bet that's a new one on you!

No, sorry, I don't get you Buttonman.

Pye01 promoted to cover droid? Not too bad, taking a leaf out of Nick Dyer's chin sketchbook.

Dredd was another good episode in a good story. Agree about the art being a contrast of light and shade. It took me a few minutes to realise Dredd was jumping over that canyon; I couldn't figure out why there were three panels of him driving over a bridge.

Tank Girl doesn't inspire me so far, but at least it's original material. After last month's lovely cover, I'd really like to see Rufus do a strip without that dotty shading effect he loves so much.

I've liked this latest Anderson story a lot and this was a satisfying conclusion to it. Good to see she'll be back next month.

The preview page for Insurrection looks worryingly Warhammer 40K. Did Abnett fall asleep at the keyboard and get two of his projects mixed up?

Quote from: "The Cosh"Dredd was another good episode in a good story. Agree about the art being a contrast of light and shade. It took me a few minutes to realise Dredd was jumping over that canyon; I couldn't figure out why there were three panels of him driving over a bridge.

It's called visual pacing.

surprised noone else has commented, so maybe I have a false memory here, but...

Fink a cannibal?  Isn't that.... movie continuity!?

Cover: Very bold and eye-catching, perfect cover-fodder.

 I though it was ballix.

A terrible cover, who is that artist?

Not a bad Meg at all, made better by having a letter in it!

- Trout

Personally I thought the cover was a good composition, but the wrong style. Pye's lines are too thick and his anatomy too far into the catoony side for me (For this piece- think it would work fine elsewhere)

The Dan Abnett/Colin MacNeil Space War strip was mentioned at Hi-Ex back in Feb. Personally I can't wait for this as Colin always loves to draw War comics.

Cover is dreadful, although I do like the colouring on Dredd's jumpsuit. Really enjoying Ratfink - the silent creeping through the caves is so tense, glad it was given enough space. I've come round to Docherty since the old days but I don't like his helmets.

Enjoying the British comics history, as a mini-Squaxx at the time I didn't know all this was going on. New Tank Girl is great, although I'm not keen on the single colour scheme. Dayglo's art has more of the madcap energy required than Ashley Wood's (still wicked) recent miniseries. Great sound effects, definitely - I love a good "boot!"

Black Atlantic looks like it could be fun. Diverse cast, gothic oil rigs and a couple of nice Abnett puns (flintshock, sharpoon). Text articles were all interesting, personally I like them.

Anderson was pretty good, didn't outstay it's welcome, but Cook's style isn't for me. Anderson looks good (for her age - how old is she these days anyway?) but the assorted 'splodey/meltey heads look half-finished.

And I have to say, I loved Snow/Tiger. There's no character development to speak of, but it moves at such a breakneck pace I didn't mind. Clarke's art reminds me of Travis Charest on WildCATs, which I also loved. And is it wrong to really fancy Snow?

Quote from: "fireandforget"Anderson looks good (for her age - how old is she these days anyway?)

In her 50s, presumably.

Paul Gravett has just posted the full Q&A that I quoted from for my article in the latest Meg' online:

//http://www.paulgravett.com/articles/148_crime/148_crime.htm

The article was about his two new books, The Mammoth Book of Best Crime Comics and The Leather Nun and Other Incredibly Strange Comics (this info' for those boarders who haven't read the article).

Cheers
Matt

Re -  the 'single colour scheme' on Tank Girl...       It's actually a B&W strip, and I'm doing free extra tonework on it, so it looks more complete. (It's due to be collected as a colour TPB next year by Titan Books, so I have to leave reasonably expansive ares for the colourist.)

On the third episode, there's 2 colours... the shock! LOL...

Hope you'll enjoy it nonetheless!

Ruf...

Our Tank Girl website is up and running, with a blog with previews of the new projects and the incredible upcoming Hewlett 'Cream of Tank Girl ' book.  

www.tank-girl.com (http://www.tank-girl.com)

I wasn't expecting to enjoy Tank Girl...but I am...quite a bit.  Nice one.

I succumbed to temptation and bought it again this month.

Cover- decent enough toony looking Dredd.

Dredd- Fair enough continuation considering I missed the start.

Tank Girl- Silly, but in a good way. (To be honest I think it's the kind of think I prefer in small snippets though, but we're only 2 episodes in so far.)

Black Atlantic - My first time with this strip, and so far so good.  Great characters and nice toony art. I like the twist at the end.

Anderson -  Not bad. Again, I'm just catching the end of this having coming into the strip last month.

Text stuff- Some interesting stuff, but I'd prefer less.

Overall I still prefer the format of the prog, but I understand this is it's own beastie. If I continue buying this (I haven't decided yet) it'll be interesting to see how I feel when I read all stories from the start. (I really think they should have treated the format with the bagged comic as a jumping on point. I'm sure they could have stuck in a few one off Future shock style stories, or the Meg equivalent. The Black Museum tales I've read here and there were great.)

Bagged comic- I've yet to read. I'll include my thoughts on it when I do. On my quick perusal, I like the art. I'm also curious that it's a full story rather than a a selection of smaller tales (much as I liked last months Jock Collection - it's good to see the format used this way.)  I'm not keen on the whole anti-terrorist squad idea, but this is purely initial feelings before I've read the story.

OK, I've read the attached comic now.

Snow Tiger - Despite my reservations it was good stuff. Lovely art, as I said above. It was kinda like watching a thriller, except in comic form.... (probably because that's exactly what it is. Point is, it has a film quality to it.) Not particularly subtle, but it's not supposed to be and that's no bad thing.

I didn't expect these little nuggets at the end:

Future shock- Sick. Loved the twist. Good.

Judge Dredd- Again rather twisted (not to mention raunchy, bad robot!) Good stuff.

I wasn't all that taken by the Meg itself this week, but with a couple of good stories and this added comic it was good overall.

I loved Snow Tiger at the time and really enjoyed rereading it again.
The art is superb, and the colours from Blythe (from when he still cared) are exceptional.

Be sure now and correct me if I'm wrong (I know how shy you all are about things like that), but weren't those three different judges jumping over that canyon, rather than Dredd in slo-mo?  I'm thoroughly enjoying the flesh-creep that is Ratfink.

Sorry it late post, as I just got Meg last friday for train reading... Meg is well good, as Judge Dredd is very nice, so next month will be last?

nice small Graphic Novel of Snow/Tiger, as got it on progs... but nice to kept whole... but one little thing is the highlight;
one of my fave stories, best Future Shock ever "Red Moon" with Kev Walker! brilliant again!!! always love that... and bit f**k up ending.

Yeah, I'm not sure if it's a good thing, but the extras at the back of the 'graphic novel' (imagine me actually making pseudy little air quotes as I type) were excellent, appreciably better than than SnoreTodger itself, which is still so very meh.  I suppose I have to admit that if I hadn't read it before I probably wouldn't be so hard on it - it makes a pretty package, all in one colourful place.    

Canon Fodder soon!  It had better be bloody good, Monarch.

For my sake others will have to enjoy it or i'm gonna be lynched at hi-ex