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Title: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Proudhuff on 28 March, 2009, 09:25:58 PM
Great stuff,  even better letters page :D
That Dredd has something for everyone, Insurrection: gulp! Citi def: nice ending,Written stuff later
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Buttonman on 28 March, 2009, 09:46:42 PM
Rubbish, rubbish letter Huff. Everyone knows dinosaurs are great!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 March, 2009, 10:25:59 AM
Crank up your spreadsheet you old duffer I want to see where you are ;)
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Leigh S on 31 March, 2009, 08:30:22 AM
Two posts about the letters and a spam... not good!

I'll start by saying I enjoyed Al's Dredd, though not as much as recent ones - It feels like a lot of Als Dredds reference old continuity (and often scarily non-Wagner continuity! :)) when they might stand up better without it.  Still, its well written, and looks quite pretty - Nick Dyers art isnt quite to my tastes , but I'll defend it as somethingthat could very much be spot on my taste with enough time to develop.

I agree with Charlie Adlards assessment of the progs need for less schlock and more shock!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: WoD on 31 March, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
I thought Al's Dredd was great.  Fresh and also using some nice references of older stuff, with a sprinkling of future foreboding!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Devons Daddy on 01 April, 2009, 08:51:36 AM
enjoying the meg
but you can bury tank girl, i dont even bother to read it.
is this a reprint, from another publicatoion?,
nothing wrong with that, i enjoyed being introduced to preacher and the charlies war, but this is just not for me,. other wise excellent.

not going to get all uptight over one very poor entry into an otherwise brillant publication.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: IndigoPrime on 01 April, 2009, 08:55:41 AM
Tank Girl's not reprint—it's a story done specifically for the Meg.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Robin Low on 01 April, 2009, 05:51:19 PM
I read the Dredd and Insurrection. Couldn't be arsed with anything else, even though Rufus' panels in Tank Girl are really rather lovely.

Obviously, Dredd was of particular interest to me. I thought it was a rather cleverly written story, which successfully walked the tricky tightrop of doing something interesting with a continuity issue without saying anything conclusive. I was impressed.


Regards

Robin
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 02 April, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
COVER: Kinda bland, not badly drawn but Rufus has set such a high standard with his previous 2 covers

DREDD: This Al Ewing fella can do no wrong as far as im concerned. Although i still dont know why PSI judges dont have their names on their badge like standard street judges.

CITI DEF: Adolescent Immature Trash and the worst thing ive read in god knows how long

I dont know how to fully articulate my Hatred for Tony Lees writing but last issue we had...
Come on you puss filled apes you wanna live forever  - Starship Troopers
yippie kai yay motherdrokkers - Die Hard :shit like this grounds it in our world not dredds.
We have people shouting pick and mix!!! it reads like a joke, its set in the dreddverse and it reads like one big piss take aimed at children...except it has RAPE.
Rape is fine in America where its horrific and disgusting and contributes to character development, plot and is handled by Wagner. In citi def Tony Lee has made sexual assault as lighthearted as dinosaurs and rad zombies..."not until he pays for what he did to me...I DONT WEAR DRESSES! it reads like a really poor Joss Weiden story.
Why would such a young Judge take the long walk?
Hotdog Run this aint.

TANK GIRL: This is how you make a light hearted yet thoroughly entertaining comic set in a desert. The art has so much energy its bleeding off the page although the race is starting to drag just a little, still enjoying it immencly

INSURRECTION: The first thrill i turn to. One of the best stories the meg has commissioned in a long time, im praying for a follw up story and a lovely trade paperback from rebellion.

CHOPPER: New material for me. pissed off he didnt cross the finish line  :shock:  if this where a tv show id have been screaming at the box. Best part of the meg for me i was smiling through the whole read.

ARTICLES: Still dont think the reviews have any place in the meg but ad least the comic articles are relevent. Might pick up some Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Pete Wells on 02 April, 2009, 03:25:05 PM
QuoteCHOPPER: New material for me. pissed off he didnt cross the finish line  if this where a tv show id have been screaming at the box. Best part of the meg for me i was smiling through the whole read.

How could you smile during Supersurf 11? It's horrible, gruesome and heartbreaking all in equal measure! I adore that story, imagine how legendary it would have been if Chopper hadn't stupidly been brought back...
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 02 April, 2009, 03:42:03 PM
QuoteHow could you smile during Supersurf 11? It's horrible, gruesome and heartbreaking all in equal measure! I adore that story, imagine how legendary it would have been if Chopper hadn't stupidly been brought back...

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HORROR UNTIL IT BECOMES A FRIEND!!!  :twisted:  

It was amazing the man gave every bit of himself to his convictions and died trying to drag himself over the finish line. I love Garth Ennis on Punisher but i never cared for his 2000ad work. I thought Helter Skelter was his biggest mess up. Never got why people where pissed off bout the chopper thing but i get it now. Bringing him back completly cheapens everything he worked for and sacrificed in SS11
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Robin Low on 02 April, 2009, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: "Judge Kirby"It was amazing the man gave every bit of himself to his convictions and died trying to drag himself over the finish line.

I sometimes think I must be the only person on the planet who did not automatically assume that Chopper had died. I saw a man fail to cross the finishing line, not a man die. The tragedy was failure, not death.

And let's be honest, there'd be a lot fewer complaints about his survival if the stories that came after were actually any good.

Regards

Robin
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 April, 2009, 08:15:45 PM
Quote from: "Robin Low"
Quote from: "Judge Kirby"It was amazing the man gave every bit of himself to his convictions and died trying to drag himself over the finish line.
I sometimes think I must be the only person on the planet who did not automatically assume that Chopper had died. I saw a man fail to cross the finishing line, not a man die. The tragedy was failure, not death.

And let's be honest, there'd be a lot fewer complaints about his survival if the stories that came after were actually any good.
Not quite. I've never understood that reaction either.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 02 April, 2009, 08:53:51 PM
Well, that was a turn-up for the books - what a great Meg.  I read things in the reverse of my usual order this month, suspecting that the reprint GN would be the thing I enjoyed most.  I was only partly right.

Chopper:  Gobsmackingly brilliant, I'd really fogotten how much I loved this story - I think it's one of the best things Wagner ever wrote, for sheer brutality only exceeded by Mandroid, and the art gets better with every episode (I particularly love Dora's flowery knickers).  And you know what?  For the first time I was actually glad that the poor bastard survived, despite its subverting of all the wonderful foreshadowing.  Who cares about the demands of story, Chop didn't deserve to die any more than he did at the end of Oz.  Must need tighter boots.  

Anyway, still grinning ear to ear from that old gem, I turned to the articles... and read them all.  Good stuff, particularly the movies and the Adlard interview.

Then it was Insurrection.  Wow.  Outstanding stuff that has me completely gripped.  Assuming David Brin or Games Workshop don't sue, I hope we get more of this one day.

Then Citi-Def, which aside from some more somewhat out-of-place dialogue was actually a good solid end to a hit-and-miss tale, and the artwork perked up a bit too.

Then Tank Girl, which took a pretty odd digression, with some nifty zipatone/letratone flashbackery.  I didn't think I'd enjoy TG much, never having been a fan, but this has really kept my interest by throwing something new into the mix every episode - essential in the drag-it-out-over-years pacing of the Meg.  Looking forward to the one-offs.

And finally Dredd, which looked like it was going to be a throwaway Ipcress File pastiche/humorous one-shot, which I wasn't in the mood for.  Blimey was I wrong.  This was a perfect Dredd story in the mould of the mid '80s.  Funny movie-riff setup, extremely clever but oddly subtle use of continuity, pitch-perfect rendition of MC-1 and what makes it great(?), some excellent lines ("It felt like rockcrete"), and a tragic hero that you end up rooting for right before the other judicial boot falls.  Amazing stuff.  It probably helps that I adore Dyer's artwork, but I honestly thought this was a classic.  Best of all, it obviously wasn't Wagner, while still being perfectly Judge Dredd.  That's the hardest trick of all.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 02 April, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
Incidentally, double-post fans and passing editorial droids, I would gladly give the House of Tharg my hard-saved euros for a big thick 'Complete' Chopper, starting with Un-American Graffiti and ending with the recent Goddard MC-1 tale.  Yes, even the Chop-and-Jug-as-Dicks stuff.  I enjoyed this re-read that much.

The only question is how to integrate Oz.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: dweezil2 on 03 April, 2009, 12:14:58 PM
I usually resit posting my opinions on The Meg and 2000ad, simply for the fact that I seem to get my issues much later than everyone else, but the Dredd story 'The Americans' cannot go without comment. It was fookin' brilliant, pure and simple!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 03 April, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Judge Kirby wrote:

QuoteARTICLES: Still dont think the reviews have any place in the meg but ad least the comic articles are relevent. Might pick up some Walking Dead.

Do it.  Do it now, and don't stop until you have read the whole horrid heart-breaking pulse-pounding thing.  It's the best monthly comic currently in production, and I hate that there isn't new issue every single day.  Faster Adlard, faster, you know you can do it weekly if you just stop sleeping altogether!

I'd usually agree with Kirby about the sexual assault in Citi Def being out of place in a what is primarily a comedy strip, but at least it appears in and derives from the context of the ongoing theme of the characters and their mixed-up gender roles:  the tough apparently sexually-frustrated judge, the effeminate transvestite Buffy, the other butch girl whose name I forget.  Although again, this is probably more a 21st (20th) century concern than a 22nd century one.  See:  'hooker' versus 'slabwalker' in past episodes.  Anyway, it's not like it was just dropped in for random laffs or heroic jeopardy (as in, say, Dante).
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 03 April, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: "TordelBack"Anyway, it's not like it was just dropped in for random laffs or heroic jeopardy

Wasn't it? I beg to differ.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 03 April, 2009, 02:27:11 PM
Quote from: "Dark Jimbo"
Quote from: "TordelBack"Anyway, it's not like it was just dropped in for random laffs or heroic jeopardy

Wasn't it? I beg to differ.

Well, not random laughs. Not saying I liked it, I don't ever like to see rape or threat-of-rape in my comics (genocide and rampant sex and nudity yes please, sexual assault no thanks)  but at least here it was relevant to exploring the characters as they had been established - in much the same way repeated threats of emasculation follow Dante around.  I don't think the lightweight story justified its inclusion in the way that (say) Ratfink or America II may have (although I'm even dubious about the need for that particular scene), but at least it fitted logically in.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 03 April, 2009, 07:04:29 PM
QuoteDo it.  Do it now, and don't stop until you have read the whole horrid heart-breaking pulse-pounding thing.  It's the best monthly comic currently in production, and I hate that there isn't new issue every single day.  Faster Adlard, faster, you know you can do it weekly if you just stop sleeping altogether!

Found this on amazon.co.uk:
The Walking Dead Compendium Volume 1 #1-48 1088pages for 30 quid.
Not out until the end of may but thats pretty good value for 48comics. My mind is made up, i shall purchase this item and bask in the zombie goodness.

As for Citi-Def i think perhaps i was too aggressive in my criticism, i probably shouldnt rip it a new asshole its not like it insulted my mother or anything. But if rape is going to feature in a comic id rather it be treated with a bit more....i dunno exactly what words im looking for here...i just didnt like the way it was handled in this. Although i hated other aspects of the strip just as much. I thought it read like an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 03 April, 2009, 08:15:33 PM
QuoteNot out until the end of may but thats pretty good value for 48comics.

Yes indeedy.  I got caught up thanks to the local library (and judicious use of other more unsavoury means for more recent issues), so I'm committed to giving Messieurs Kirkman and Adlard their due by buying that huge stinking pile of corpses with actual money as soon as it's available.  Assuming I'm still solvent come May.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: stacey on 03 April, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
Dredd -  I love Al's Dredds, I liked this very much, I loved the colouring too, it really worked well.  
Citi Def - I don't quite know what to say bout this.  If you read Midnight Kiss or Hope Falls you wouldn't think it was the same writer.  I heart Tony Lee I do, but, well... I didn't hate it.
Tankie - love it.  Love her, love, love the art - especially in the flash back sequences with the dotty stuff (technotard me - know none of technical terms) tis gorgeous.
Insurrection - kicking bottom, still effing well loving this, it's the shizzle.  I will be gutted when this ends however it ends!

Haven't read the Charlie Adlard interview yet, but enjoyed the Hellboy thing and the Moore/Reppion interview.  I'd just read their Doctor Who one shot the day before which was kind of nice.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Toni Scandella on 05 April, 2009, 10:19:39 PM
gah.  through this thread i have discovered the Walking Dead and must noow spend a fortune reading it all.  Maybe the library will have it and I can just get single issues...
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2009, 07:22:18 AM
The 'beauty' of The Walking Dead (yes, yes, I know it's the Meg review thread...) is that Kirkman/Image collect at it a phenomenal biannual rate - the first 9 trades will bring you to within just a few issues of the current nightmare (right up to the kicking-off point of the current arc), and AFAICR the collections are usually released just a month or so after the last issue is out.  It's one of those precious ongoing comics that it's really feasible to read in collected form.  As to the local library, if they don't have it, pester them to get it. Librarians love a bit of lobbying.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Pete Wells on 06 April, 2009, 08:18:55 AM
Remember, there's that git big compendium coming in May!

//http://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Dead-Compendium-1/dp/1607060760/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239003682&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: burnsy on 06 April, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS RUBBISH ...TANK GIRL,  BADLY DRAWN PILE OF STEAMING CRAP. I CANT SEE THE POINT OF THIS CHARACTER BEING  IN THE MEG AT ALL.  NEVER READ IT IN MY LIFE BEFORE IT STARTED HERE IN THE MEG. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE  GET RID OF IT.  THE REST OF THE MEG IS OK.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2009, 04:22:42 PM
I don't think I've ever done this before except for spam, but I've reported the preceding post.  It has no place here.  10 posts in 7 years, and this is one of them.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 06 April, 2009, 04:33:37 PM
And so it begins...

Thin Ice 2: Ice-is on Infinite Forums.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: House of Usher on 06 April, 2009, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: "burnsy"NEVER READ IT IN MY LIFE BEFORE IT STARTED HERE IN THE MEG.
Then give it a chance, maybe? I wouldn't know. I gave up reading The Megazine when they started bagging up the reprint with it. But I did buy the Christmas issue, and Tank Girl was the best thing in that one by far.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 April, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
Come on, TordelBack, the amount of times someone has posted is irrelevant to the content of his post.  And what, pray, have you reported him for?  Just 'cos you disagree with him?  I thought a forum was supposed to be about different opinions and views.  This site would be totally pointless if we all agreed.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Buddy on 06 April, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: "Pete Wells"Remember, there's that git big compendium coming in May!

//http://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Dead-Compendium-1/dp/1607060760/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239003682&sr=8-1

That's one for the 'must get' pile.

I've been meaning to get the trades but this seems the perfect collection and at just 30 odd quid, a steal!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2009, 05:35:58 PM
QuoteAnd what, pray, have you reported him for?

Though it pains me to give it further airing:

QuoteWHAT THE HELL IS THIS RUBBISH ...TANK GIRL, BADLY DRAWN PILE OF STEAMING CRAP

I reported it because it is unnecessarily offensive, and I'll happily stand by that. It's a violation of our code of conduct.  The relevance of the number of posts is that it isn't a momentary aberation by a prolific boarder - it's a shouty rant out of nowhere, with nothing useful to contribute.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 April, 2009, 05:48:37 PM
Hi, TordelBack - Your reply to the number of posts just sounds elitist.  So you have to have posted a certain number of times for your posts to be relevant?  And as for the language, I've been called far worse than "a pile of crap" on here (not by you, of course) and I'm not aware of you reporting those boarders.  Perhaps I deserved it?  I wouldn't have used the lanuage the guy's used but, come on, it's not that bad.  I think Tank Girl's crap too, so, to be fair, you'd better report me!!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Wake on 06 April, 2009, 06:13:42 PM
I've read the reported post and in my opinion it doesn't stand out as being worse than quite a large number of other posts, so I'm not going to delete it. burnsy doesn't like Tank Girl but he isn't making any personal attacks on the creators.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 April, 2009, 06:21:03 PM
Well said, Wake, common sense prevails.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2009, 06:22:07 PM
Fine, fine.  My report was 'handled', and Wake has spoken, so I'm clearly out of line in thinking this is inappropriate behaviour.  

I don't however think it's elitist to question someone's ALL CAPS rant with reference to their previous posting history.  There are people here who have made vast contributions with a very small number of posts, and there are others who witter incessantly in the thousands to no great effect (me obviously included).  I'd allow a newbie some slack, and I'd allow a grizzled veteran even more, but I'm less sure about someone who has been a member of this forum for years but only chooses to share his disgust with us in these terms.  I still do.

I can't deny that I may be biased in that I completely disagree with his opinion, but I like to think I'd react the same way to similar criticism of even creators I don't personally care for.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Wake on 06 April, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
Quote from: "TordelBack"Fine, fine.  My report was 'handled', and Wake has spoken, so I'm clearly out of line in thinking this is inappropriate behaviour.

Disagreeing with the way burnsy has posted in addition to his opinion is fine, but I think it should be done here on the thread. If I delete the post then I'm censoring his opinion and his delivery rather than just disagreeing with it.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 06 April, 2009, 06:33:47 PM
Not absolutely crazy about Tank Girl these days, even the old Hewlett ones, probably because i'm not a teenage crusty who fancies her any more. (and i used to wear a tank girl t-shirt. A lot. And not wash it very often). But i think rufus's art on it is fooking great. Each to their own i suppose; i agree that burnsy is being a bit unnecessarily offensive but i suppose he's entitled to his opinion.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 06 April, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
That's grand Wake, I'm not arguing with the way you moderate things, it's perfectly sensible and reasonable.  As I said, I was clearly out of line.  I'd personally rather not read that kind of post of this forum, but that's life in any kind of community, even the imaginary ones.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 06 April, 2009, 07:53:08 PM
WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY....BURNSY, POORLY OVERLY ASSERTIVE CRAP. WHATS THE POINT OF HIM BEING IN THIS THREAD I ASK YOU. NEVER HEARD OF HIM IN MY LIFE BEFORE HE STARTED IN THE MEG THREAD. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET RID OF HIM HE'S SO BADLY DRAWN....THE REST OF THE THREAD IS OK.

.........too childish?  :oops:
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 06 April, 2009, 08:16:07 PM
it made me laugh. I like childish
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: +rufus+ on 06 April, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Indeed Burnsie and Old Tankie are entitled to their opinions..

I'd like to thank them both for their eloquent delivery of said opinions. Well done chaps. (Burnsie..hope you find the caps lock one day ol' Chap)

The great thing about an anthology is there's something for everyone.. chances are your going to dislike something.
That's life..get over it.  :lol:

Love and kisses
Rufus
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 07 April, 2009, 08:04:28 AM
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Dinsdale.

I'm still chewing over the gristle of this month's particularly fine Meg, which is always a sign of good value (or extreme displacement activity), and my thoughts strayed to the Raymond Chandler article. At first glance, it seemed a fairly odd thing to have in the Meg, but it seems to be working on me.   I've never read Chandler, although I've gone so far as to borrow a few in the past, but I've always meant to.  The one thing the article doesn't seem to give me is a starting point - what would be a good one to begin with?
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 07 April, 2009, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: "TordelBack"You're a better man than I am, Gunga Dinsdale.

I'm still chewing over the gristle of this month's particularly fine Meg, which is always a sign of good value (or extreme displacement activity), and my thoughts strayed to the Raymond Chandler article. At first glance, it seemed a fairly odd thing to have in the Meg, but it seems to be working on me.   I've never read Chandler, although I've gone so far as to borrow a few in the past, but I've always meant to.  The one thing the article doesn't seem to give me is a starting point - what would be a good one to begin with?

Well The Big Sleep(his first book) introduces Philip Marlow. Most people would consider it his best,(so im told) if you enjoy it you can then read his other stories in the order he wrote them so i guess thats the logical starting point. Although ive always loved The Long Goodbye, but then ive only read 3 of his books and i read them out of order :|
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 April, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
The Big Sleep is a perfect place to start. I got it from the library last year and was so impressed I went out and snapped up everything else. There are two Penguin volumes collecting all the novels except Playback.

The mysteries themselves aren't what makes the books worth reading. It's simply fantastic writing, able to encapsulate a place or a mood or a character in a couple of laconic sentences. I'm not saying he invented it (I don't know) but reading this stuff, you realise why all the cliches of the hard-boiled detective became cliches in the first place.

Marlowe's a great character too, despite how little we ever learn about him (there's precisely one chapter that I can think of where anything about is past or his inner life is ever mentioned and he gets pretty sore about that.) Almost a Johnny Alpha, or any Bogart character you can think of, in his insistence on trying to do what he thinks is the right thing even when it's far from the easy thing to do.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 07 April, 2009, 06:00:54 PM
The Big Sleep it is so.  Thanks, peeps.  To the library!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 08 April, 2009, 12:16:53 PM
Don't let them grind you down, rufus - your work on Tank Girl is easily up there with Hewlett's original stuff. And look at him now, he's minted.
Mind you, a few Berts saying to Ernies 'Shut the fuck up with that "hey Bert" shit' and kids with T-shirts reading 'Ice Tea! Yo mutha fucka!' would make it as funny as the one-off in Deadline with Kevin Keegan, if exactly the same as it.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: burnsy on 08 April, 2009, 12:40:42 PM
this is the for TORDLE BACK RE HIS REPLY TO MY POST A FEW DAYS AGO.....

i havent posted much in the past few years as  i have been fighting for my life against cancer / leukeamia and did not have access to a laptop. and if you know anyone that has had chemotherapy they are usually very tired and havent got the strength to do much. but at least i am in recovery now and can join back in on some forums. So i think i am due an apology from you at least.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 08 April, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
Burnsy, obviously I am genuinely sorry to hear of your health problems, and I'm all too familiar with the effects of chemotherapy (although mercifully not first hand) - you have my sincere sympathy, and I'm very glad to hear you're getting back up to strength.

I will not however be apologising for identifying your post as rude and inappropriate in the context of this forum, because in my view it was, although I appreciate that the board does not support censorship of such.  I don't want to drag this thread off topic again, so if you have anything further to say to me on this subject, I'd appreciate it if you used the Private Message/Board Mail facility.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: +rufus+ on 08 April, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: "burnsy"this is the for TORDLE BACK RE HIS REPLY TO MY POST A FEW DAYS AGO.....

i havent posted much in the past few years as  i have been fighting for my life against cancer / leukeamia and did not have access to a laptop. and if you know anyone that has had chemotherapy they are usually very tired and havent got the strength to do much. but at least i am in recovery now and can join back in on some forums. So i think i am due an apology from you at least.


Well I've been looking after my GF for 3 years of cancer treatment...Ops, Chemo,Radio, Hormone, and reconstructive...and still hitting my deadlines...Can I have an apology from you Burnsie?
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Judge Kirby on 08 April, 2009, 02:35:50 PM
QuoteWell I've been looking after my GF for 3 years of cancer treatment...Ops, Chemo,Radio, Hormone, and reconstructive...and still hitting my deadlines...Can I have an apology from you Burnsie?

You the man Rufus! i love your artstyle and your work on tank girl has been amazing, especially the covers to meg275 and 277
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: satchmo on 08 April, 2009, 03:21:32 PM
Note to Meg-Tharg:
Poor old Booga keeps getting his name spelled wrongly on the recap page...

Bloody good Meg this month though, Greenbonce.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 08 April, 2009, 03:24:48 PM
A bit like when Schiehallion's baby in Calhab Justice had to 'die to dave the future Scotland' for about 5 months or something.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: +rufus+ on 08 April, 2009, 03:32:37 PM
Quote from: "Judge Kirby"
QuoteWell I've been looking after my GF for 3 years of cancer treatment...Ops, Chemo,Radio, Hormone, and reconstructive...and still hitting my deadlines...Can I have an apology from you Burnsie?

You the man Rufus! i love your artstyle and your work on tank girl has been amazing, especially the covers to meg275 and 277

Wasn't looking to garner sympathy.. but medical conditions are no excuse for bad manners.. I hate people playing the cancer card. IT SUCKS BIG TIME...caps off.

Ruf..still drawing...
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 08 April, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Quote...had to 'die to dave the future Scotland' for about 5 months

That still makes more sense than the actual strip did.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: The Monarch on 09 April, 2009, 12:30:27 PM
I still wish chopper was a proper gn and leave those bagged reprints for stuff like canon fodder II which will never ever get a gn but maybe thats just me
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 April, 2009, 02:01:45 PM
Quotebut medical conditions are no excuse for bad manners..

Drokkin' straight.  While I think burnsy's rant is not a reportable offence, boardwise, I also don't think any apology is due to him.  Sympathy, yes, I can't even imagine what he's going through and I really hope he'll be ok, but apology, no.  TB's rebuke had nothing to do with the fact that Burnsy was ill, nor indeed did any of us know that at the time.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 10 April, 2009, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: "Pete Wells"Remember, there's that git big compendium coming in May!

//http://www.amazon.co.uk/Walking-Dead-Compendium-1/dp/1607060760/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239003682&sr=8-1

Thirty quid? Chuff me, that can't be right, surely? That would make it cheaper for me to replicate the first three volumes I already have than buy seperate trades (or possibly hardcovers, since it was a mispriced copy of the first hardback in Borders that got me where I am today. Eight quid- the mad fools)


In other news:
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 April, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Whilst I love Rufus' drawings on Tank Girl (he has really captured the mad style of the original, with his own twist) but am I the only one who has a problem with this almost-monochrome colour scheme? This month's vivid mustard with extra coloured dots was particularly vile. I understand it is to be recoloured for the collected version and feel rather short-changed that we've been fobbed off with the 'unfinished' version.

Not a bad Dredd, but not on a par with last month's.
Citidef okay, nothing to write home about.
distinctly average bunch of text articles (these creator profiles all tend to read the same after the first dozen, and the film reveiws have always seemed out of place)

Thankfully, the prog ends on another high note with Insurrection (suggested subtitle - "PADS - how big can they get?" - seriously, those SJS judges wouldn't be able to get through doors with those things on!) This is a cracking story, but only as long as I try to mentally divorce this from Dredd's megacity (or imagine it as megacity a couple of centuries post-Dredd) because otherwise it just makes no sense, as we've discussed at length.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: M.I.K. on 11 April, 2009, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: "dandontdare"This month's vivid mustard with extra coloured dots was particularly vile. I understand it is to be recoloured for the collected version and feel rather short-changed that we've been fobbed off with the 'unfinished' version.

Oddly enough, that was one of my favourite things in this month's episode. Suited the Westerny stuff. Brought to mind sepia toned Wanted posters and made it more distinct as a flashback. I wouldn't be surprised if that bit ended up looking much the same in the "finished" version.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: +rufus+ on 11 April, 2009, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: "dandontdare"Whilst I love Rufus' drawings on Tank Girl (he has really captured the mad style of the original, with his own twist) but am I the only one who has a problem with this almost-monochrome colour scheme? This month's vivid mustard with extra coloured dots was particularly vile. I understand it is to be recoloured for the collected version and feel rather short-changed that we've been fobbed off with the 'unfinished' version.

Short changed?   :?
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: +rufus+ on 11 April, 2009, 04:10:29 PM
Oh..and one last thing..I've been doing 9 page episodes.. we get paid for 8 pages.. so again.. You're being short changed right...? and a free pin Up at Christmas...   :lol:  :?

Have a Happy Easter...

As they say in the VCs...Suck it in,huh?
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 April, 2009, 04:23:42 PM
If I was a creator, the last place I'd frequent would be here. You'd need the hide of an elephant!

I don't care for Tank Girl at all but that's not due to the art - it just seems a little pointless and not quite as funny as it seems to think it is. I don't mind it in the Meg as long as someone's enjoying it, but a shorter run next time might be nice.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Toni Scandella on 11 April, 2009, 04:51:06 PM
Well, i have to admit Tank Girl is my most favourite thing in the Megazine lately and the artwork is a big part of why that is so.  I was always a fan, but Rufus's art has elevated this beyond what I had any right to expect.

So there.

Am I the only person that... wasn't all that overkeen on The Americans?  It sort of... slightly jarred for some reason and  can't for the life of me think why - love Nick Dyer's art, though.

And... Insurrection is merely good.  I feel like a party pooper saying that but... it's not the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 April, 2009, 05:27:16 PM
oops sorry rufus, my point wasn't anything to do with how you get paid, and so 'short changed' was probably the wrong phrase. I was only wondering about the creative decision as to what sort of colouring a strip gets. If (and I've no idea if this is the case) this type of colouring was adopted purely for reasons of time, as it was the only way to get it out by some deadline, and it's going to be fully coloured by yourself or someone else later, I'd rather have waited. I am ignorant of the creative/colaborative process involved, so I've no idea if any of this is even your decision!

I do like the art though, honest! Feel the love :)
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: TordelBack on 11 April, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
If Rufus has any sense he's put his boot through his monitor long before now, and if he doesn't show up to explain, the situation as I (poorly) understand it is that Skid Marks in the Meg was commissioned as B&W, and any colouring work we get is free topping courtesy of the man himself.  It's also pretty groovy.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Cactus on 12 April, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
Am I the only person who thinks the Johnny Alpha/mutie connection from The American will resurface in 2000ad, following Backlash?
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 April, 2009, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: "+rufus+"
Quote from: "dandontdare"Whilst I love Rufus' drawings on Tank Girl (he has really captured the mad style of the original, with his own twist) but am I the only one who has a problem with this almost-monochrome colour scheme? This month's vivid mustard with extra coloured dots was particularly vile. I understand it is to be recoloured for the collected version and feel rather short-changed that we've been fobbed off with the 'unfinished' version.

Short changed?   :?


Hope your not put off by visiting the forum Rufus. For what it's worth, I'm a big fan of your work and I'm just happy to be reading a non-licensed tie-in British comic at all, when so many are folding.
It just seems that the whinging minority are the most vocal at times.
Happy trails.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 12 April, 2009, 03:30:06 PM
True. it's good to have rufus around, and for my money he's the best new artist 2000ad and the Meg have had for a long time.  Like i said before, don't let them grind you down, rufus, for every person who doesn't like your work there's a lot more who do.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: stacey on 12 April, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
I love Tankie, I love the art and the colour scheme, and with the flashes of yellow in the past epps to have the flashbacks yellow worked really well as far as I'm concerned, I also loved the old school dotty stuff.  I think it's top notch, I shall be one of the many people queuing for Ruf sketches at the next couple of cons.
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 12 April, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: "dweezil2"
Quote*****ALL WILL OBEY THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS COMIC DISSENT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED LAY BACK AND THINK OF ENGLAND*****
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: dweezil2 on 12 April, 2009, 07:54:12 PM
My God! The forum can read my mind! How can it do THAT?  :o
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: Sefton Disney on 26 April, 2009, 10:14:30 AM
I've got a feeling the Johnny Alpha/Brit-Cit/nuclear war business from The Americans is going to become a very major aspect of Dredd's world at some point. Even more so because I think Backlash is only the beginning of something huge. As I've said elsewhere, I think Dredd's world is going to be a very diferent place by this time next year.

I thought The Americans was briliant by the way. Like most everybody else, I think Al Ewing writes Dredd exceptionally well. He seems to have a real grasp of the world and of the changes of tone that make Dredd so great. I really like Nick Dyer's art, too. Like Henry Flint, it manages to be pleasingly "old school" without being a carbon copy of his influences. More soon, please!
Title: Re: Meg 283 Tank Girl
Post by: highjon on 26 April, 2009, 11:27:36 PM
AAAgh!! When will Tank Girl end?
Beginning to regret renewing my subscription.
John