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Title: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 22 April, 2009, 07:27:51 AM
Now this is something I've been wondering since I first saw this image way, way back for the first time. It's from the Rogue Trooper story where bagman gets hit and goes a little la-la. The panel shows him un-packing the contents of his bag and while I can work out what the items are one has flummuxed me from the start.
It's labeled as 'Atmo-Keak' and I've marked it on the image below for reference.

What is it? What does it do? Help!

(//http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/Waub/2000AD/RT1copy.jpg)

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: worldshown on 22 April, 2009, 07:53:46 AM
Given Gerry Finley-Day's legendary typing skills, it could be a spelling mistake that nobody could interpret.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Wake on 22 April, 2009, 08:36:24 AM
It could be laughing gas (//http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/keak).
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: pauljholden on 22 April, 2009, 08:52:07 AM
Keak is also a scottish/Ulster-scots/Northern Irish word for shit (may also be spelt keke?). So, ATMO-KEAK might be an inside joke.

-pj
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 22 April, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
Some good suggestions there which I had not thought of.

Thanks!

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: House of Usher on 22 April, 2009, 12:05:25 PM
Definitely looks like a grenade.

(or a potion of invisibility)
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: M.I.K. on 22 April, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: "pauljholden"Keak is also a scottish/Ulster-scots/Northern Irish word for shit (may also be spelt keke?). So, ATMO-KEAK might be an inside joke.

We pronounce it "keech" over here with the "ch" pronounced the way it is in "loch".

"Keek" on the other hand means much the same as "peek", which would suggest some kind of surveillance equipment. It does look more like some kind of grenade though, so I think Wake's suggestion is the most likely.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 22 April, 2009, 05:30:59 PM
Still no closer to working out what it is *sigh*.
I've tried looking through the equipment lists that WW2 G.I.'s used to carry as it's fairly likely that some of the items are being 're-used', the most obvious being the 'Gamma/Gammon' grenade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_bomb)

Oh well, maybe one day I will find out. Or not.

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Robin Low on 22 April, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
Okay, here's my take.

Atmo is an abreviation for atmosphere.

It's obviously a grenade of some variety.

Keak is a mistake - it should be Leak

The atmosphere on Nu-Earth is lethal.

So, an Atmo Leak grenade is specifically designed to burst, puncture or crack defenses against the toxic atmosphere, whether they be walls, bubbles or tanks.


Regards

Robin
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: M.I.K. on 22 April, 2009, 06:28:10 PM
Sounds plausible. Certainly seems to be a gas grenade of some description, but as Wake showed via the link he posted, (click on that blue writing), "keak" is an old word meaning "laugh", so if it's not a spelling mistake, it's laughing gas.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Dandontdare on 22 April, 2009, 06:28:45 PM
If it is a typo, could possibly be atmo-seal, a hand-held tool for emergency patching of suits, domes or bubbles?
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 22 April, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
As I remember the words 'Atmo-Keak' are also on the handle of what-ever-it-is (just visible in the image above).
I'm now tending to go with it being an 'in-joke' as first option, a spelling mistake second.

Thanks for all the input!

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Robin Low on 22 April, 2009, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: "Bouwel"As I remember the words 'Atmo-Keak' are also on the handle of what-ever-it-is (just visible in the image above).
I'm now tending to go with it being an 'in-joke' as first option, a spelling mistake second.

Bugger, I've just looked at the original and it does clearly say keak. However, Ewins could just have drawn on what was written for the text box... and if the writing on the original script was poor...

...but yeah, atmo keak/aughing gas sounds like a likely gag and the sort of thing we might have seen used in Rogue Trooper.


Regards

Robin
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: I, Cosh on 22 April, 2009, 06:59:24 PM
I don't think it looks like a grenade so much as some sort of mouthpiece/inhaler.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: TheEdge on 23 April, 2009, 08:26:38 AM
I'd go with gas, its not an inhaler why would Rogue need a gas mask etc
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 April, 2009, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: "TheEdge"I'd go with gas, its not an inhaler why would Rogue need a gas mask etc
The same reason he needs suit patches?
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 April, 2009, 04:06:23 PM
I seem to remember rogue having some kind of digital soft-porn mag in the bag too, for 'R&R'. Hmmmmm. 'Synth out, bagman, i just, er, spilled some suit-patch glue on it.'
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 23 April, 2009, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: "JayzusB.Christ"I seem to remember rogue having some kind of digital soft-porn mag in the bag too, for 'R&R'.

Really?!
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: W. R. Logan on 23 April, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
Digi-Dolls or something like that
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 April, 2009, 06:28:38 PM
Ah the classic "digi pin-ups" - I remember this was the most useless equipment card in the old Rogue board game as it provided no game benefits at all, and was only included for comedy purposes.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 23 April, 2009, 08:39:29 PM
(//http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/Waub/2000AD/Digipinups.jpg)

*rubs thighs*

-Bouwel-
(Edited to add: And now there's another conundrum: What does the 'TW' mean on the bottom right of that Digi-Pin-ups Cassette? Argh!)
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 April, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
Quote from: "Bouwel"And now there's another conundrum: What does the 'TW' mean on the bottom right of that Digi-Pin-ups Cassette? Argh!)
TallyWhacker.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Robin Low on 24 April, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: "Bouwel"(//http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/Waub/2000AD/Digipinups.jpg)

It appears to have a USB port at the bottom. Do you think biochips can jack-in?

Regards

Robin
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 April, 2009, 01:29:31 PM
you mean jack in to jack off?

" Sorry rogue, can't reload just now, I'm in the middle of a digi-wank....uuuunnnnnggghh!"
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 April, 2009, 04:11:10 PM
My entry for the most unhelpful post of all time (pinched from //http://www.urbandictionary.com )

1.    keak    
   The sexiest woman alive is known as a keak.
Kaitlyn is such a keak.

2.    keak    
   an apologestic sound or noise after saying something uncalled for or something you have not meant to say.
'you bitch!'
'i didnt say ROBBIE was fine, i said BOBBIE was fine!'
'oops, keak!'

also:


1.    Keak Da Sneak    
   Rap artist from East Oakland..102 and Walnut..


2.    keak da sneak    
   a bay area rapper who coined the famous term "hyphy". keak can rap extremely fast and has a pretty raspy voice, which sometimes makes it hard to understand, but he's still awesome.
person 1: have you heard that song by keak da sneak, super hyphy???

3.    keak da sneak    
means to sneak up to a woman when she is sleeping and jackoff and shoot skeet to her face then when she wakes up she will be "keaked"
dude man i keak da sneak to my bitch last nite!!!


The world is leaving me behind  :cry:
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Bouwel on 24 April, 2009, 05:05:03 PM
QuoteThe world is leaving me behind

I think it did that to me circa-1984 *sigh*

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 04 May, 2009, 11:52:11 AM
It's like a TARDIS in there.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: sinsina on 28 May, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
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Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Emperor on 28 May, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
It is a typo for "Atmo-Kecks" - inflatable trousers that could be worn in case you have damage in the lower half of your suit.

If I had to put money on it I'd roll together these answers:

Quote from: "Robin Low"Okay, here's my take.

Atmo is an abreviation for atmosphere.

It's obviously a grenade of some variety.

Keak is a mistake - it should be Leak

The atmosphere on Nu-Earth is lethal.

So, an Atmo Leak grenade is specifically designed to burst, puncture or crack defenses against the toxic atmosphere, whether they be walls, bubbles or tanks.


Regards

Robin

Quote from: "dandontdare"If it is a typo, could possibly be atmo-seal, a hand-held tool for emergency patching of suits, domes or bubbles?

Quote from: "The Cosh"
Quote from: "TheEdge"I'd go with gas, its not an inhaler why would Rogue need a gas mask etc
The same reason he needs suit patches?

To get:

Atmo-Leak* - it is a large version of the nearby suit patches, used for sealing domes. Given the shape it may be some kind of sprayable foam.

* K and L and next to each other on the QWERTY keyboard and it is an easy typo to make.
Title: Re: A Rogue Trooper question for the Hivemind
Post by: Trout on 28 May, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
Rufus, any chance you could ask Brett?