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Title: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Trout on 15 August, 2009, 10:31:02 AM
Did I bag both threads this week? Ha!

John Smith's Wire-inspired two-part Dredd ends well, with lots of shooty chaos. Nice detail on his use of stumm gas, too. I loved the art on this one, especially.

My highlight, yet again, is Tank Girl. It's full of fun, beautifully drawn and properly chaotic. Plus some knob gags.

Darren Dead had me chuckling. He's a bit of a twat, isn't he? I'm keen to see where this is going.

Finally (strip-wise) Armitage engaged my interest a bit more this week. What's the mystery in Steel's past? It was satisfying to see Armitage take on some detective work, even with help from a bit bucket of luck.

I'll nibble away slowly at the text stuff, which always comes second for me, but it looks good.

Overall: not a bad Meg at all. The prog overshadows it, but it stands alone as a good read.

- Trout
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 August, 2009, 11:07:07 AM
Bah, 2 out of 2 Trouty!

My take on the strips:

Cover - Yup, I liked it a lot. Have we seen Neil Roberts' work anywhere else?

Dredd - Hmmmm, I really enjoyed the episode but it felt a bit rushed to me. I expected a bit more from the fight between Torso and The Shit Kicker (great name!) than three tiny panels, especally compared to the other fights elsewhere. The Judges cleaning up the whole event in two pages was strange too. Easily coulda been another part to this which is testament to how enjoyable it was I suppose. It's great to have John Smith back at the House of Tharg!

Tanky - Excellent art from Rufus this month, that first page was stunning! I enjoyed this months episode much more than last (see, I didn't go to Alan's school/collage or whatever it was so I wasn't really arsed!)  I thought Duncan Cockskin was hilarious and the gag at the end was brilliant. I'm very happy to have this in my Meg but I wish we could clone Rufus as in my opinion, he was born to draw Dredd and he hasn't done nearly enough by any means.

Meet Darren Dead
- Hmmm, okay I suppose, but DD really is Russell Brand isn't he? And with ol' Russ not being as high profile as he once was, it seems to be falling a bit flat. If I were reading this when I was addicted to Russell's radio show each week, I'm sure I'd be loving it a lot more (nice to see the Ready Brek-like jacuzzi!) especially with Higgins' sublime art.

Armitage - Despite what the other thread says, I think Armitage is great. Having been a long term reader of the Meg and those great Virgin Novels, I have a soft spot for all the characters and settings and it's great to be able to see these again. Timbo's dialogue was particularly amusing this episode!

Other Stuff I've not read yet
- Interrogation (Ron Smith part 1, yay!), New Comics, You Should Be Reading (The Savage Sword Of Conan), Four-Colour Classics (Bear Alley Books), Fillums (Potter and Land of the Lost) and letters (the nutcase from Paisley is in there!)

Graphic Novel - A good 'un. It's Harmony but it shoudl really be been called The Trevor Hairsine Collection as it collects Harmony: Blood and Snow which I seem to remember being great, a brilliant Wagner/Hairsine Tale from the Mega-City called The Jonny Unit and the superb Wagner/Hairsine's No More Jimmy Deans.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Trout on 15 August, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
Bump.

Surely more than two people read the Meg on a Saturday?
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 August, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: King Trout on 15 August, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
Bump.

Surely more than two people read the Meg on a Saturday?
Not I. Boring question, but did the Prog & Meg come in the same envelope again this month?

And was Slaine in it again?
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 15 August, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 15 August, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: King Trout on 15 August, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
And was Slaine in it again?

TordelBack, it is your responsibilty to PM thryllseeker about this mention.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Bolt-01 on 15 August, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
Neil Roberts work has previously been seen by the readers of FutureQuake and Zarjaz. Oh yes, he's making a go for it! He was last seen illustrating the return of the visible man in Zarjaz 07 and is currently working on some more strips for us.

He also paints many of the covers for the Black Library for GWorkshop in the style he used for this cover.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: TordelBack on 15 August, 2009, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath on 15 August, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 15 August, 2009, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: King Trout on 15 August, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
And was Slaine in it again?

TordelBack, it is your responsibilty to PM thryllseeker about this mention.


Damnit, you're right.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: planetoid on 15 August, 2009, 07:14:56 PM
Anyone getting a Johnny Depp 'Captain Jack Sparrow' vibe from Darren Dead? Imagine Johnny Depp as Darren Dead. Seems to work. I can hear his voice when I read the character speaking. I wonder if Rob Williams based Darren Dead on Sparrow? As David Frost used to say on tv show Through The Keyhole...

"The clues are all there."  ;)
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Pete Wells on 15 August, 2009, 07:22:32 PM
Nah, gotta be Russell Brand. The overly eloquent dialogue, the womanising, the obsession with his career. I get the feeling that this was written when Brand was at his peak but it's took so long to publish that its missed the boat...
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: James Stacey on 15 August, 2009, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: planetoid on 15 August, 2009, 07:14:56 PM
Anyone getting a Johnny Depp 'Captain Jack Sparrow' vibe from Darren Dead? Imagine Johnny Depp as Darren Dead. Seems to work. I can hear his voice when I read the character speaking. I wonder if Rob Williams based Darren Dead on Sparrow?
Yup its more Sparrow than Brand for me too.
Enjoyed the strips.
Armitage actually got me interested for the first time.
Tank Girl was as to be expected beautifully drawn but the story was very weak (Yeah I know, its Tank Girl, when was the story ever strong) Bring back Camp Koala I say.
Nice article with Ron Smith too, I had no idea his body of work was so huge. A RAF spit pilot and undercover in SAfrica too, go Ron.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Trout on 15 August, 2009, 11:53:18 PM
Cosh, they're separate envelopes.

I enjoyed the Ron Smith piece. It's sad to read about his eye problems, though.

Weird to think I was walking down those same Dundee corridors less than two hours ago!

- Trout
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Rob1971 on 16 August, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
I didn't have either Brand or Jack Sparrow in mind with Darren Dead. Mind you, now you raise it, I can see how people would feel there's a similarity with Brand.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Trout on 16 August, 2009, 12:39:56 PM
Hi, Rob. Thanks for popping up!
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Pete Wells on 16 August, 2009, 01:24:56 PM
Yeah Rob, nice to see you. Hope you didn't think I was dissing the story, I like it a lot!
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: planetoid on 17 August, 2009, 02:34:58 AM
I have seen the future and it is pink:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/robertcornell68/IMG-1.jpg

;)

Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Proper Dave on 19 August, 2009, 12:35:06 AM
Oh!

Just before I go into Idiot-abusing Lockdown Mode, for obvious reasons, gotta say ... page 5, second-to-last panel of this Armitage - now that's what I'm talking about!

Having trained in art and having been a graphic designer, I have these images in my head that my frankly rather crap command of the English language can't convey; so the process of scripting, to artist, to printing, to binding, to the letterbox tends to degrade em like an iterated JPEG.

That single image, though, didn't just come out as good as I meant - it came out better.

(Not a response to the 'Bwoo-hoo-hoo, it's boooring!' brigade that's happening elsewhere about my scripting prowess, cos it's nothing to do with my scripting or me. I got my got-some-distance, knowing-what-I'm-talking-about hat on here, and just saying that when John Cooper's good, he's bloody good. And I defy anyone to look at page 5 of this month's Armitage and say he isn't.)
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 19 August, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
All right, I've had a few days to dissect this issues, so here goes:

Cover: Fantastic art from Neil Roberts. Dredd looks great, an old but still-tough man standing over the city he's dedicated his life to keeping safe (or as safe as can be). Fine work, this.

Dredd: Loved the first installment, and while the second half isn't as great, it remained fun throughout. A good read.

Ron Smith/Ian Rankin features: Now, if the Meg insists on running features instead of strips, this is what it should be about. Fine, insightful write-ups on comics creators past and present. I enjoyed both features.

What you should be reading: Every damn one of you should be reading 'The Savage Sword of Conan'. A glowing review of my favorite ever comics line, so this earns a few points with me.

sigh, and then we come to the movie reviews. Even the near-completely positive letters in the letters section single this column out as fluff/a waste of time. In reality, we are paying for someone's opinion. We can go read hundreds or thousands of them on the internet for free. Ah well. Not the best.

Tank Girl: Not even reading it at this points.

Darren Dead: Some fun ideas at play here. Picking up from the first installment. I hope this strip keeps getting better. The art was nice too.

Armitage: To be honest, I just don't like it. Now mind you, I wanted to like it, mainly to spite the growing crowd of nay-sayers circling the strip like so many vultures, but it's not happening for several reasons. The characters aren't appealing to me, and the setting doesn't quite seem right when stacked against MC-1.

The graphic novel was okay, as I've read most of its contents before.

A better Meg than last month, I'd say.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: virgil on 21 August, 2009, 03:13:33 PM
Tank Girl gets better every issue

:P
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Emperor on 21 August, 2009, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 15 August, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
Neil Roberts work has previously been seen by the readers of FutureQuake and Zarjaz. Oh yes, he's making a go for it! He was last seen illustrating the return of the visible man in Zarjaz 07 and is currently working on some more strips for us.

He also paints many of the covers for the Black Library for GWorkshop in the style he used for this cover.

His comics credits can be seen here (http://comicbookdb.com/creator.php?ID=20032) and you can check out his work on his site:

http://www.skinnyelbows.com/index.asp

While his B&W work is great (and with his foot in the door I can't see he can't get inside one of Tharg's mighty organs in the near future) it is his colour work that really knocks it out of the park and I'd lay good money on him getting an Inssurection 2 cover when that returns to the Meg.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Bolt-01 on 21 August, 2009, 08:27:32 PM
By the mighty One's amazing organ; that Comic book DB has listings for me! And it is surprisingly up to date.

Who did that?

And I reckon you are right about Neil- his Black Library covers are superb. I'm hoping to have a post on the FQ Blog soon about this cover.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2009, 08:36:08 PM
It's certainly an interesting looking cover, kind of a late 80's feel to it, and that's some zip Dredd is sporting there.

Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 21 August, 2009, 08:44:22 PM
The interesting thing about this week's covers is that they both feather Dredd in relation to Mega-City; the above shows Dredd standing tall over his city, dominating the scene while the Prog has him below the cityline in a pose as close to defeat as Dredd has ever been. Of course the material in each respective mag reflects the cover. In the Megazine, Dredd "gets his man", while we all know what happens in the Prog. Not sure if this was intentionl or not, but I wouldn't doubt it!
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Emperor on 21 August, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 21 August, 2009, 08:27:32 PM
By the mighty One's amazing organ; that Comic book DB has listings for me! And it is surprisingly up to date.

Who did that?

Me, of course. I may have also had a hand in this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_(comics)). ;)
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Bolt-01 on 21 August, 2009, 09:56:21 PM
Well I'll be dipped in Dash Descent's drawers...

Emperor- if you want any new stuff to update anything with, just ask. Thanks man.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Emperor on 21 August, 2009, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 21 August, 2009, 09:56:21 PM
Well I'll be dipped in Dash Descent's drawers...

Emperor- if you want any new stuff to update anything with, just ask. Thanks man.

Will do.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Pete Wells on 21 August, 2009, 10:45:57 PM
I really like the cover. Neil Roberts, the guy that did it, has a great article about it on his blog (thanks for putting us in touch Bolt!) You can read about it here: http://skinnyelbows.blogspot.com/ (http://skinnyelbows.blogspot.com/).

He's going to send me some more pics for my covers blog, yay!
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Bolt-01 on 21 August, 2009, 11:55:25 PM
You're welcome Pete. Neil is a top man. He's going to be working on the prog prper soon- so I'm doing my best to get as many strips off him as I can.

I've seen the cover he's done for a 2k related product that will blow you away.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: CraveNoir on 22 August, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
More about the cover on page 5 of this thread

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=67113
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Mike Gloady on 22 August, 2009, 10:55:23 AM
The Ron Smith interview was AMAZING.  And more next month?  Come on Tharg, you've got me wishing my life away just to read an interview with one of your droids (and the interview only covered his life BEFORE "Twoth").

Very sad about his eye condition, I'd rather assumed that he'd just thought "I've been at this for ages, time to enjoy my retirement" and hoped he might be coaxed out for a one off here and there.  Obviously not. 

John Smith isn't a popular writer with me, but this two-parter was rather servicable - the "four legs good, two legs bad" chant being the part that got me really smiling.  Lots of good moments but it felt a little stretched - too little happening for a two parter, too much for a one-off. 

Don't read Tank Girl, art's pretty but I can't be bothered with it.  Darren Dead is in the same bucket for me.  I just can't bring myself to care.  Sorry.

Armitage is cracking, we should have had so much more of this character - most of his appearances and development has been in novels and audio since the mid-nineties.  Good to see him back where he belongs. 

Ian Rankin on Constantine sounds brilliant.  Can't wait and a good piece.  The Savage Sword of Conan is something I'd not really bothered with, but I'll take a gander next time i'm at the thrill-merchant. 
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Emperor on 22 August, 2009, 05:10:05 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 22 August, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
More about the cover on page 5 of this thread

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=67113

Good find. Here is the direct link:
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showpost.php?p=597196&postcount=68

Someone has asked him to break his process down further, which will be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Bolt-01 on 22 August, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
Nice link...
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 August, 2009, 03:23:04 PM
Seeing the naked version of the cover makes it clear what a shame it is to have so much of the detail of the city covered up by the text.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: TordelBack on 24 August, 2009, 08:47:41 AM
Good value this month, and I  haven't finished it yet.

Worth the price of admission:  The Ron Smith interview.  One of the most facsinating interviews I've ever read.  I'm not ashamed to say that I pulled into a service station on the way home from work to finish reading it in the peace and quiet it deserved.  Well done, that Molcher.  Can't wait for next month.

What I've read so far of the rest:

Cover:  Nice.
Dredd: A bit flat after last month's excellent setup.  Would have worked better in a single chunk.
Armitage: Going exactly where I hoped it would, nice job.
Tank Girl:  I feel I'm missing a joke this month, but the art is better than every.
Darren Dead:  Surprisingly still very funny, my favourite strip this month.
Film Reviews:  Rather too many column inches on Harry Potter, and I'm a fan.

The Hairsine GN:
Harmony a bit incoherent, but better than I remember.  Wouldn't mind some more of this.
The two Dredds were excellent, and  either new to me or completely forgotten.  Either way, great!

Next month's GN:  more Armitage, featuring the secret origin of Charlie Adlard.  Cool, but Armitage reprint 3 months out of 4?  Hmmm.



Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: strontium_dog_90 on 24 August, 2009, 09:34:47 AM
I have to say, I'm quite pleased with the Armitage reprints - I was always a fan, but am missing huge chunks of storylines, so I'm looking forward to catching up on endings that I've always wondered about, and full set-ups that I'm missing vital parts of.
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: planetoid on 24 August, 2009, 04:26:03 PM
Darren Dead page three. I laughed out loud when I read that page - the last panel being hilarious.

I think Rob Williams' off-the-wall style of comedy could translate to a tv comedy. And how cool was that castle block? A castle on the top of a MC-1 block. Wacky genius.  :D
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: PreacherCain on 27 August, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Darren Dead was my favourite strip this month; get the impression everyone involved is having great fun in making it and I enjoy the hell out of reading it!

Tank Girl was good but I can't help feel that maybe it would be better suited to 2000AD after all.

Really enjoyed the Ron Smith interview (especially that spy segment - what the hell!?), Dredd was ok, Ian Rankin interview was interesting . In fact I think it's best these text articles stay relating to comics, preferably current publications (even if its reprints of old stuff).  The film reviews are still too long and, thuogh well written, I don't see why the belong in the Meg. Particularly when its reviews of films that are gone from the cinema already. What's the Meg's reasons for picking the films it does?  Surely everyone knew Land of the Lost was going to be shit from the get go, reviews are practically unnecessary!
Title: Re: Meg 288 - Iron Justice
Post by: Zarjazzer on 01 September, 2009, 08:37:56 PM
Harmony was  a nice find. Very good and in b&w, just like television should be young 'uns! >:( ;)