Let's pretend that you're in charge of 2000ad and you've decided that the Meg reprint magazine would be a clever way of launching an ALL reprint kid friendly comic. What would you include?
(I'm thinking an anthology title that includes a variety of reprints in each issue - and something you could hand over to your kids or to a dentist without fear of a swear word of anything too offensive!)
Let's start with Banzai Battalion...
-pj
Bonjo From Beyond The Stars
Quote from: pauljholden on 12 October, 2009, 08:06:31 AM
Let's pretend that you're in charge of 2000ad and you've decided that the Meg reprint magazine would be a clever way of launching an ALL reprint kid friendly comic.
That is a great idea PJ!
You could probably find a suitable Dredd story for each issue, and maybe a DR & Quinch 1 pager.
How about Strontium Dogs?
what about dash decent
Given the new ABC Warriors cartoon (if its still that?) I think the early ABC Warriors stuff should be in there. Dredd has plenty of fantastic material to mine, Nemesis as its beautiful and timeless. There is also a wealth of ones offs that should be there so a Future Shock per issue. Finally we need something up to date so I'm thinking Kingdom should stand up well, its violent but only in the way any number of the classics from when 2000ad was first about were.
If there is going to be a cartoon on the telly (which is still a massive if) I think something like this might be essential assuming launching a kiddie comic with all new material might be prohibited by cost?
We did that with FutureQuake.
We have an all colour reprint book with kid-friendly strips in it that we sell at cons for only £1!
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 12 October, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
I'm thinking Kingdom should stand up well
The intermittent swearing in Kingdom might prove problematic.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 12 October, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
Given the new ABC Warriors cartoon (if its still that?) I think the early ABC Warriors stuff should be in there.
Ro-Busters!
Here's a question. In order to appeal to a modern child audience, would the reprints need to be coloured?
Quote from: Wake on 12 October, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
Here's a question. In order to appeal to a modern child audience, would the reprints need to be coloured?
Pertinent query/observation. Four years ago we had a nephew aged eleven visiting us. I gave him a pile of old annuals to read. He finished them rather quickly, and we were talking about the stories later. I asked if he'd enjoyed X, Y or Z story, and he replied "oh no, I only read the colour ones." I told him to go back over them again and read the black and white ones. He agreed afterwards that yes, they were very good, and better than some of the colour ones. So yes, I agree that a reprint aimed at a younger audience would need to be coloured or miss its target market altogether.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 12 October, 2009, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 12 October, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
I'm thinking Kingdom should stand up well
The intermittent swearing in Kingdom might prove problematic.
Cheers
Jim
Damn is there swearing in there? Interesting point though I wonder if writers would object to edits to remove swearing. Obviously this would have to be done on a case by case basis but I wonder if people would support this type of thing to support this type of product?
Walter The Wobot (many already in colour).
What is the age range of the 'kids' in question? Younger than the 12 -14 age range that would have been the original target audience?
I know what you mean about the colour for kids but I don't think it is as essential as you think. My little one (nearly 9) loves the Beano and gets it every week, but she much prefers the older Beanos (newspaper format) that I pick up for her here and there secondhand. And there are always a few coloured pages but alot of it is black and white.
It is one of my pet bugbears about the lack of comics for kids around. All those stupid gaudy things in the newsagents are not comics, they are magazines with bits of plastic tat sellotaped to the front. The have a couple of strips in but they aren't comics.
Quote from: stacey on 12 October, 2009, 12:16:51 PMIt is one of my pet bugbears about the lack of comics for kids around. All those stupid gaudy things in the newsagents are not comics, they are magazines with bits of plastic tat sellotaped to the front. The have a couple of strips in but they aren't comics.
Agreed. Primers for tomorrows consumers?
I'd propose that this hypothetical reprint comic had one b/w strip in it, but the rest were either original coloured strips or coloured specifically for it.
How about Armoured Gideon and/or Dead Meat?
I try really hard to find comics for my son, but there really is nothing on the shelves. I would love a 2000AD equivalent that didn't have boobies or disembowellings, although I appreciate that that's not quite what PJ is talking about. Actually, I'm not so bothered about the nudity.
Even those ubiquitous things based on TV properties he enjoys (Spongebob, Thomas, Charlie & Lola) have effectively zero strip content, and what is there is usually ugly vid-caps. If it was colouring-in or plastic mobile phones I was after, he'd be sorted. The best I can do are the digest-sized Clone Wars books, which while superb are very small and fiddly and TBH in places are quite grim for a three-year old (not that he'd mind, but it leaves me inventing new dialogue on the fly).
What I wouldn't give for a Spiderman title with content equivalent to the Lee/Ditko Marvel UK reprint digests.
You want kids to buy your comic by giving it away with a magazine full of swearing, gore and sex?
As regards the colouring issue, manga sells like billy-o and is rarely coloured, so I'd suggest that selling a black and white book just needs the correct marketing to make kids think they're getting something that isn't 'comics' and makes a virtue of being of lesser (production) quality than its direct competition - preferably, they should be made to think the leaden dialogue, low quality paper and arbitrary story twists are part of the charm and actually makes it better than something made with an endgame in sight. The one-off Roy of the Rovers and Misty specials aren't quite there, I think, as while only selling through one store doesn't help much, there's really nothing about them that makes the reader think "I need more", as they're presented as a curiosity rather than a platform for more of the same.
Quote from: stacey on 12 October, 2009, 12:16:51 PMIt is one of my pet bugbears about the lack of comics for kids around. All those stupid gaudy things in the newsagents are not comics, they are magazines with bits of plastic tat sellotaped to the front. The have a couple of strips in but they aren't comics.
Sad but true - the free toys on the front cost
less than the comics. Comic strips are the most expensive part of the average kiddie mag, as they have to pay a writer, artist, colourist, letterer - that's got to be a couple of hundred quid for a
single page even if you're paying some poor slob straight out of art school. With 'fact files' and puzzle pages, they use clipart that's already been paid for, or recycled from other mags covering the same ground, much as Marvel Heroes does when it reprints images from US Marvel titles but omits to credit the original artists (which leads me to suspect they aren't paying royalties).
Robo-Hunter maybe?
Quote from: Professah Byah on 12 October, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
You want kids to buy your comic by giving it away with a magazine full of swearing, gore and sex?
Actually, No; I'd like an all ages comic with all new material from 2000AD priced at 99p. But, since that's unlikely, I'd go with something that has a fighting chance of happening... (assuming enough people think it should...)
-pj
QuoteHere's a question. In order to appeal to a modern child audience, would the reprints need to be coloured?
I doubt it - they lap up manga, and that's mostly B&W.
I'm not saying I think the idea itself is without merit (quite the opposite), only the bit that relies on the Meg (as is) as a means of delivery. It's not even the content of that book as much as it is the price and the readership demographic.
I'm not sure any spin-off distributed by piggybacking the Meg would penetrate the market far enough to find its way into the hands of those for whom it's intended. It'd be a tough sell as an actual financial concern, but I wouldn't mind seeing it as a fun giveaway.
Quote from: radiator on 12 October, 2009, 02:58:15 PM
QuoteHere's a question. In order to appeal to a modern child audience, would the reprints need to be coloured?
I doubt it - they lap up manga, and that's mostly B&W.
Manga is incredibly cheap and marketed as a niche genre seperate from comics by making a virtue of its low-quality reproduction. Most manga fans won't even admit that manga and comics are the same thing.
Quote from: stacey on 12 October, 2009, 12:16:51 PM
I know what you mean about the colour for kids but I don't think it is as essential as you think. My little one (nearly 9) loves the Beano and gets it every week, but she much prefers the older Beanos (newspaper format) that I pick up for her here and there secondhand. And there are always a few coloured pages but alot of it is black and white.
It is one of my pet bugbears about the lack of comics for kids around. All those stupid gaudy things in the newsagents are not comics, they are magazines with bits of plastic tat sellotaped to the front. The have a couple of strips in but they aren't comics.
I always wondered what those publications were all about.Theres always stacks of them on a shelf together.I knew that they are related to kids TV but thats all i know of it and since i dont have children at present i have never had any need to investigate them any further.
I just found myself thinking WTF is all this Shit ?
They do look like horrible tacky and vile things especially with the bits of plastic tacked onto them and also the cellophane wrapping.These things are obviously a money spinner as they are cheap to produce because they are reproducing TV material.
I rememeber thinking just where and what happened to comics for kids ?
Where did they all go to ?
What happened ?
Yes we have 1 title that is a shadow of its former self [the Beano] because it has been a victim of PC/Cultural Marxism so enough said.
Quite honestly if i had kids they wouldnt be weaned on TV anyway and i would rather buy them old comics to read rather than this TV spin off rubbish because i wouldnt be happy buying stuff like that when reading comics encourages reading and getting into stories which may result in the child gaining an interest in art or storytelling and imagination which is the effect they had on me when i was that age.
I would much rather they be doing that rather than have them fiddling with bits of plastic or just looking at pictures in something that has no real content or anything of any merit at all.
The demise of the weekly comic was a very sad day for the culture we live in.
One would like to think that there is or would be a market for a kids reprint comic or even a new Sci Fi title that is aimed at kids that would also appeal to older readers just like 2000ad did or still does.
I would say that Kingdom is closest to the spirit of old 2000ad because its not contriving to appeal to any particular age demographic as it stands on its own as a great story with great characters and great art which to me was always what 2000ad is all about anyway.
QuoteYes we have 1 title that is a shadow of its former self [the Beano] because it has been a victim of PC/Cultural Marxism so enough said.
Ummm... errr... eh?
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 12 October, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
QuoteYes we have 1 title that is a shadow of its former self [the Beano] because it has been a victim of PC/Cultural Marxism so enough said.
Ummm... errr... eh?
I thought Dennis the Menace had been kind of sanitised as he wasnt as rebellious as he used to be when i remember reading it and i thought that was directly because of PC.
I could be wrong though as i dont read it anymore.
So is this when we get the news report Meg 291 will be bagged with an alternate kids comic as a new direction rather than the planned floppy and we hear a heart break somewhere :-\
The Ian Gibson Star strips would be good content for a more child orientated market.
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 October, 2009, 12:59:48 PM
I try really hard to find comics for my son, but there really is nothing on the shelves.
How about Toxic! (http://www.toxicmag.co.uk/). It has plastic free gifts so gets onto the shelves but more strip content than the TV tie-ins.
Oooh, ta Wake, haven't seen that one! Star Wars magnets in the current issue, apparently! The, err, boy will like those. No Sex Warrior, though? :-*
It's a sad fact that the kids comic on the shelf that doesn't have some plastic toy sellotaped to the front is the one that will stay on the shelf. They're mercenary little buggers sophisticated young consumers these days.
Don't Marvel still do kiddy-friendly versions? I often grab what I think is an unread Spiderman or Fantastic Four from the library only to discover it's a "Marvel Adventures" or some-such, with all the depth of a Saturday morning cartoon.
As for 2000ad, if you took out all the boobs, swearing and "adult themes", there's still be room for stories that grown ups may not approve of - Flesh or Shako for example. Nobody said people getting limbs ripped off in spurts of blood was bad did they?
Toxic is great though it's a shame Count von Poo got axed if you ask me!
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 12 October, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Quite honestly if i had kids they wouldnt be weaned on TV anyway and i would rather buy them old comics to read
Battle Picture Library and
Commando? ;D
Quote from: House of Usher on 12 October, 2009, 07:56:50 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 12 October, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Quite honestly if i had kids they wouldnt be weaned on TV anyway and i would rather buy them old comics to read
Battle Picture Library and Commando? ;D
At a very young age i remember reading Donald and Mickeys TV comic.This was sometime in the early 70s.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 12 October, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
At a very young age i remember reading Donald and Mickeys TV comic.This was sometime in the early 70s.
::) I'm only kidding. It was just a tongue-in-cheek suggestion as to what the average UKIP voter would want their kids to be reading. Sorry. I didn't really
mean it.
:)
I grew up being exposed to all kinds of carnage. Didn't do me any harm.
*nurse, the screens*
Quote from: House of Usher on 12 October, 2009, 08:32:58 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 12 October, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
At a very young age i remember reading Donald and Mickeys TV comic.This was sometime in the early 70s.
::) I'm only kidding. It was just a tongue-in-cheek suggestion as to what the average UKIP voter would want their kids to be reading. Sorry. I didn't really mean it.
:)
It actually went over my head that one but i got it in the end.
I just resisted the temptation to off on one just then.
England is at peace with Germany......England has always been at peace with Germany.....
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 12 October, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Quite honestly if i had kids they wouldnt be weaned on TV anyway
Hark! I hear myself 4 years ago! But listen, drowning it out is me from three hours ago, trying to cook dinner while feeding the endlessly crying baby, but the wee lad wants to play hide and seek, and oh look, the 64 Zoo Lane disc just happened to fall into the DVD player, and lo, silence reigns...
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 October, 2009, 09:10:21 PM
But listen, drowning it out is me from three hours ago, trying to cook dinner while feeding the endlessly crying baby, but the wee lad wants to play hide and seek, and oh look, the 64 Zoo Lane disc just happened to fall into the DVD player, and lo, silence reigns...
See also: Horatio Knibbles - the creepy, bullying, big-eared fucker is like catnip to the young ones. As is Trap Door and 'helicopter diamond-type thingy with classical music' Ludwig.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 12 October, 2009, 07:47:17 PMDon't Marvel still do kiddy-friendly versions? I often grab what I think is an unread Spiderman or Fantastic Four from the library only to discover it's a "Marvel Adventures" or some-such, with all the depth of a Saturday morning cartoon.
This is incorrect for two reasons:
(1) saturday morning cartoons
can lack depth, though not all do, and
(2) you're clearly reading the wrong Marvel Adventures comics, because the Paul Tobin and Jeff Parker stuff is
fantastic to the point that for me it's a preferable alternative to the interminable arse-bound wangst of the main Marvel universe as the company bends over backwards to chip away at anything remotely akin to the dirty medium of 'comics' so they can court an audience of people too thick to read an actual novel or watch a movie but they'll happily buy and read a TPB mix of the two written by someone who can't get work writing either. Marvel Adventures: Avengers is a hoot - even moreso when you realise that they're writing these things
primarily for adults - and recent MA: Spider-Man issues have gone all Ultimate Spidey by being arc-driven but accessible tales of a teenage Peter Parker.
Seriously - give those books a chance. They're pure entertainment if you can remind yourself that superhero comics are inherently silly by their nature and it's the grim and gritty approach that's become the
real parody of the genre.
Fantastic idea PJ.
I think the the best way to go is for the majority of it to be coloured. I remember, not too many years ago, when i used go into the local newsagent with my pocket money and have would have a wide variety of proper comics to chose from, The Beano, The Dandy, Whizzer & Chips, Buster, The Eagle, Beezer, Roy of the Rovers and 2000ad. Very few of these comics are now left and those that are look like poor incarnations of themselves (I'm referring to The Beano and The Dandy here not 2000ad). Is it just that there isn't a market for good comics without a bit of tat sellotaped onto it.
Quote from: Gavin_Leahy on 12 October, 2009, 10:32:45 PM
Fantastic idea PJ.
I think the the best way to go is for the majority of it to be coloured. I remember, not too many years ago, when i used go into the local newsagent with my pocket money and have would have a wide variety of proper comics to chose from, The Beano, The Dandy, Whizzer & Chips, Buster, The Eagle, Beezer, Roy of the Rovers and 2000ad. Very few of these comics are now left and those that are look like poor incarnations of themselves (I'm referring to The Beano and The Dandy here not 2000ad). Is it just that there isn't a market for good comics without a bit of tat sellotaped onto it.
And a cellophane wrapper !
A fantastic idea Mr Holden! But yes, absolutely no black and white or they won't read it. Get Chris Blythe to colour old strips- ABCs, obviously. Rip the swearing out of Kingdom and replace with "£$&&%!!"- there's lots of that in current Marvel titles, and the kids think it's funny. Ditch the '2000AD' badge, as what self-respecting young person wants to read a comic that's titled after a year BEFORE HE WAS BORN? Stick vaguely-connected plastic tat or pencils to the cover each issue, and you'd be onto a winner.
Oh, and LOTS of puzzles- believe you me sirs, while WE, the comics-numpties, may have balked at such things in our titles as youngsters, today's sprogs LOVE THEM. Kids love puzzles, and there's fuck-all of any interest available in shops. They love themed puzzle books- but at four quid for a thin book, how many parents can afford them? Finding a series of Iron Man/ Man-Thing puzzles in Marvel Heroes makes my eldest's day.
And posters.
Tharg- PJ Holden TALKS SENSE. With the ABC/ 2000AD cartoon on the horizon, such a thing is moving towards the inevitable- here, on this board, you will find the solution to your planning worries, oh yes.
SBT
Realistically as well- you will want at least one new thing in there to encourage the regular 2k reader to pick it up. A Dredd-lite would be fun, especially as it would be a great way of seeing who can cut it artistically. I'd love to see Al and Nick Dyer- for example- let loose for six pages of old school mentalism.
The rest of the mini-prog (for that is what it shall be called) should be coloured reprint of a mix of classic and newer strips. The Deaths head stront strip, Banzai Battallion, some classic Rogue and away you go. Pop the cover in the centrespread without the logo to keep Pete happy and a couple of comps to win Case files.
(actually if you want to enter 2000ad puzzle style competitions then you should make sure you get your grubby mitts on the latest Zarjaz & DB- the collections need to be won folks)
I'd happily buy this, and if Tharg wanted to test the waters in the Meg reprint mag- then i'd be happy to seewhat he came up with.
Quote from: pauljholden on 12 October, 2009, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 12 October, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
You want kids to buy your comic by giving it away with a magazine full of swearing, gore and sex?
Actually, No; I'd like an all ages comic with all new material from 2000AD priced at 99p. But, since that's unlikely, I'd go with something that has a fighting chance of happening... (assuming enough people think it should...)
It wouldn't be too difficult - 2000AD has rather grown up with its audience so there is a little too much sex and violence for a comic magazine pitched at a younger audience (8-11+?) but a lot of the older thrills, plus quite a few new ones like Kingdom (Dan Abnett is an old hand at this, having written things like the Real Ghostbusters alongside John Freeman), show you can have an interesting and engaging story, that isn't dumbed down but is suitable for kids (OK more realistically it passes the parent test). There is a lot of talent out there and could see an interesting mix of 2000AD alumni, British comics creators whose work tends to go to a younger audience and newer talent (The DFC was mainly built on younger upcoming talent - if you were going for such a venture you'd be foolish not to have someone like Neil Cameron (http://www.neillcameron.com/) on board).
And the name? Well if it was a sister title to 2000AD then perhaps: Tooth.
I think they should call it "Thargs Organ of Kiddie Thrills".
;)
If this were to really happen I would buy it as the shit on sale at the moment is, erm , well shit. I am currently reading through the early case files with my eldest and though its slow going (one episode a night)hes loving it.
As an adult who does frequently swear and is not averse to violence and all the rest of i still dont find that i enjoy strips that employ swearing and sex and nudity any more than i enjoy strips that dont feature this kind of material.
Actually i am neutral towards swearing so the odd swear word like shit being used wouldnt bother me if my kids were reading it.
I would rather have strips that are not contrived to appeal to an older reader because this kind of logic dictates that i would enjoy a strip a lot less if it didnt feature sex and didnt explore adult themes and excessive violence which is simply not the case at all.Its like pandering to a particular demographic and i dont really feel it is necessary.I feel that the spirit or essence of 2000ad is that it should appeal to all age groups which was always my opinion of it because the beauty of it was that it didnt condescend to children either.
So really if a kids title was to be produced then i would just repeat the formula because 2000ad was originally aimed at a certain age group but by default it was also an all ages comic simply because good storytelling aqppeals to all ages and this was exactly the reason i enjoyed 2000ad because it didnt condescend to an 11 year old which made me think i was reading something adults could read.
Doesn't the ginger kid in Harry Potter employ the odd "sh*t" now and then?
It's hardly the end of the world (says the man who's never once sworn in front of his neices and nephews - over a decade, despite being a VERY sweary type in most conversation).
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 13 October, 2009, 06:27:28 PM
As an adult who does frequently swear and is not averse to violence and all the rest of i still dont find that i enjoy strips that employ swearing and sex and nudity any more than i enjoy strips that dont feature this kind of material.
Actually i am neutral towards swearing so the odd swear word like shit being used wouldnt bother me if my kids were reading it.
I can be a bit of a sweary Mary, am not adverse to a little bit of ultraviolence and have seen naked people do some quite startling things but you not only don't need it to make great comics, gratuitous use of it (in a "hey we are writing an adult comic, better have some knobbing in it" way) can not only spoil a story but is often a sign the writer isn't bringing much depth to the table. I do like the way 2000AD has the option but that doesn't mean the 2000AD spirit can't be pitched in a manner that would work with a younger audience.
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 13 October, 2009, 07:02:56 PM
Doesn't the ginger kid in Harry Potter employ the odd "sh*t" now and then?
"Bloody wicked" is said by Ron in Harry Potter and is therefore allowed occasional use by my children.
Good idea PJ, I am surprised that Ace Trucking, Meltdown man and the early Slaine havent been mentioned for the title.
David
Quote from: stacey on 12 October, 2009, 07:48:28 PM
Toxic is great though it's a shame Count von Poo got axed if you ask me!
It's a total outrage is what it flippin' is!
...and after I went to the trouble of voting for it to get into the magazine, too..
Luke Kirby should have a slot in a way of explain my position on where the keystone to kid friendly is. That and where I see the character 's age being the pinnacle age of said demographic.
If they sort out the legal wrangles in short order, that might be a goer. Otherwise we're doomed to a life without reprints or cartoons of Luke Kirby, Zenith, Big Dave.... what else?
Actually, I remeber finding a new word whilst being driven in the car by my parents. The red van in front had it finger wrote in the dirt on its back doors. Having never seeing it before I was absolutely fascinated to hear how it sounded phoneticly. It turned out being the word "Arsehole" . My sister was outraged with me in the back while my parents were okay with it as long as it was, "Read " .
Skizz.. Moonrunners ...Homer the barbarian?
Quote from: Krombasher on 16 October, 2009, 11:31:31 AM
Actually, I remeber finding a new word whilst being driven in the car by my parents. The red van in front had it finger wrote in the dirt on its back doors. Having never seeing it before I was absolutely fascinated to hear how it sounded phoneticly. It turned out being the word "Arsehole" . My sister was outraged with me in the back while my parents were okay with it as long as it was, "Read " .
Something similar happened to me, although as the word I read out was c*** my dad wasn't exactly understanding about it. I had to point it out on the billboard we were going past. Still took me a few more years to find out what it meant though.
Quote from: maryanddavid on 15 October, 2009, 12:23:37 AM
Good idea PJ, I am surprised that Ace Trucking, Meltdown man and the early Slaine havent been mentioned for the title.
David
Glad you mentioned them though .
Screw Luke Kirby - just do something similar in the great tradition of "if you sort of look at it while squinting it's a bit like that film" that defined some of the best 2000ad strips and Sinister Dexter. At this stage, pretty much anything in that vein is going to be compared to one particular boy wizard on the big screen anyway, so all you need is a kid protagonist encountering elements of the fantastic while learning to be a wizard and build on that.
For us old-school tooth fans, they can make it a bit more like Luke Kirby by getting Matt Smith to pay himself to write it without signing the necessary legal papers that assign ownership to Rebellion like the freelancers have to.
Quote from: Professah Byah on 16 October, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
... like the freelancers have to.
Saucer of milk at the Professor's table!
Cheers
Jim
(It's funny, because it's true ...)
As a ten and a half year old, my 2000AD was kid friendly enough. Apart from gruesomely rendered scenes like that of a spy getting pistol whipped about the conk by Nazis in Mach 1.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 October, 2009, 02:17:40 PM
(It's funny, because it's true ...)
Ah, let's be fair - who
doesn't abuse perks of the job?
Quote from: Professah Byah on 16 October, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Ah, let's be fair - who doesn't abuse perks of the job?
Errr ... me. I've never had a job with sufficient perks to be worth abusing!
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 16 October, 2009, 04:47:33 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 16 October, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Ah, let's be fair - who doesn't abuse perks of the job?
Errr ... me. I've never had a job with sufficient perks to be worth abusing!
Cheers
Jim
Not like me I don't have to pay fines on my library books WAYHEY... oh...
Tyranny rex ? Knocking spider woman paints he made her loom fantastic with inks.
Consolidating the confab, I hereby suggest laminated copies of THE BEST OF 2000 AD be given away as reusable colouring books with the Meg.
Market it as PLASTIC REPRINTS of INTERACTIVE CHROMATIC INTENSITY or some gubbins.
Failing that, just give the little buggers a space spinner or summat.