Title: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
This has been bothering me for weeks Hivemind - when did it become acceptable to wear tights instead of trousers or a skirt? I've seen enough chunky-thighed teenage girls prancing about on public transport (whilst complaining about being cold) to last me a lifetime - I've even had to stop myself uttering 'she'll catch her death', for the love of cod, make it stop! (on a more serious note, if any of them were ever assaulted a defence lawyer would have a field day with how they were dressed - sad, very definately wrong but also true)
I also don't see the appeal of the X Factor, Cheryl 'shiny-haired racist' Cole, Katie Price or Macdonalds
I also don't see the appeal of the X Factor, Cheryl 'shiny-haired racist' Cole, Katie Price or Macdonalds
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 01:10:04 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 01:10:04 PM
The appeal of MacDonalds is simple. Sugar. Salt. Fat. And steaming hunks of mysterymeat. Simple really. These are the things people like, sad though it is. I'm not defending it or anything, just that's what I think drags folks in the doors.
Cheryl Cole is the bane of my bloody life. I would pay Simon Cowell my very own soul to see him beat her into unconsciousness with Danni Minogue (holding her by the head and striking with the feet, obviously).
Cheryl Cole is the bane of my bloody life. I would pay Simon Cowell my very own soul to see him beat her into unconsciousness with Danni Minogue (holding her by the head and striking with the feet, obviously).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Banners on 28 October, 2009, 01:14:30 PM
Post by: Banners on 28 October, 2009, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: wild-sevenThis has been bothering me for weeks Hivemind - when did it become acceptable to wear tights instead of trousers or a skirt?
You mean the thick black tights? Often paired with a barely-noticeable short denim skirt and Ugg boots? I'm not sure when it became acceptable, but it is a look I heartily applaud...!
M@
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
Ugg boots.
Never before has an item of apparrel been more aptly named. "Ugg!"
What's wrong with good old-fashioned LEATHER with spikey heels? Eh? *drifts off*
Never before has an item of apparrel been more aptly named. "Ugg!"
What's wrong with good old-fashioned LEATHER with spikey heels? Eh? *drifts off*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
without a skirt! just a shirt, stupid wide belt and tights - I was walking home yesterday behind a girl wearing a thick jumper, coat, knee socks, chunky boot and TIGHTS. She was actually shivering - catch a cold then you dozy tart
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 01:29:34 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 01:29:34 PM
Quote- when did it become acceptable to wear tights instead of trousers or a skirt?
If you find out, let me know - I think a Public Holiday is in order. I wasn't so keen on the Empress' New Trousers when they were thick black tights, but (as I dribbled like a musty goat in a previous thread) in recent weeks the practice seems to have extended to pretty much any tights of 30 denier or above, and to ladies of a more acceptable age (i.e. more than half my own age). It's like some marvelous Benny Hill sketch out there now, especially when the wind blows. Ah, what it is to be old.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 02:45:49 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 02:45:49 PM
It looks like it's only me :( Oh. Spoons.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 28 October, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 28 October, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
x-factor
strictly
shopping
casual racism.. and all those other things that everyone seems to be into.
In defense of the ridiculous apparel that young lassies wear, never underestimate the stupid peer society body dismorphia conformity fashion police pressure they are all under, which ultimately makes them look stupid and uncomfortable in an effort to look good. eg Everyone laughs at Orange make up yet they all still wear it?
strictly
shopping
casual racism.. and all those other things that everyone seems to be into.
In defense of the ridiculous apparel that young lassies wear, never underestimate the stupid peer society body dismorphia conformity fashion police pressure they are all under, which ultimately makes them look stupid and uncomfortable in an effort to look good. eg Everyone laughs at Orange make up yet they all still wear it?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin Zeal on 28 October, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
Post by: Colin Zeal on 28 October, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
I don't understand why or when it became acceptable for teenagers to start wearing headbands again. What's the point of that? Oh, and why do some women wear a skirt over trousers/jeans? Make your minds up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 03:39:38 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 03:39:38 PM
What's with this Prom stuff at schools now, the is Great Britain not The United States of America. Not that there is anything wrong with the US, it just seems strange that schools are doing this and obviously one upmanship seems to happen every year on the news.
I thoroughly enjoyed taking flour and eggs into school on my last ever day and pelting everyone, whilst being pelted myself. Now that is a Great British tradition that we should keep alive ;)
I thoroughly enjoyed taking flour and eggs into school on my last ever day and pelting everyone, whilst being pelted myself. Now that is a Great British tradition that we should keep alive ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
What are those things that emo/skater boys have in their ears? I think they're called flesh tubes (funny, I thought that was something else). Ah, google informs me they're called 'flesh tunnels' - either way they're revolting and you may well end up looking like this
http://i43.tinypic.com/117edkh.jpg%22%20border=%220
http://i43.tinypic.com/117edkh.jpg%22%20border=%220
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 28 October, 2009, 04:02:49 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 28 October, 2009, 04:02:49 PM
Were the scratches on his face from his Nan going "Take those fecking things out!"?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 04:04:26 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 04:04:26 PM
A face only a mother could love, then again ::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 28 October, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
Post by: Christov on 28 October, 2009, 04:07:52 PM
Being a lecherous sod, I do understand the appeal of the tights.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 04:11:50 PM
Post by: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 04:11:50 PM
I love those wide belts and stuff. I think they are very flattering, and yes I agree with Bou, alot of it for the youngers is peer pressure which is why they all look the same, confidence to not look the same as everyone else comes with age.
Title: Re: Dredd help
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
I can't say i do. But at least we seem to be seeing a little less of those footless tights things. Ghastly. I also, other than medics and geophysics people, cannot forgive those croc shoes. Horrid.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 28 October, 2009, 04:16:24 PM
Post by: Christov on 28 October, 2009, 04:16:24 PM
Wearing Crocs should be classed as a war crime. I'm serious.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 04:33:03 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 04:33:03 PM
QuoteBut at least we seem to be seeing a little less of those footless tights things. Ghastly.
Oh dear God yes, those are hideous. But little attracts my distaste quite so much as Ugg boots. How could anything so obviously a five-minute fad last so long? Mind you, I have little time for the whole foot area in general.
My, but it's good having a few lasses about this place to broaden the conversation.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Feels more homely, dunnit?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 October, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 October, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
Men who wear Birkenstocks should be shot on sight.
What is as bad, if not worse, is men wearing Ugg boots. I saw a geezer in a shop trying on a pair!
What is as bad, if not worse, is men wearing Ugg boots. I saw a geezer in a shop trying on a pair!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 October, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 October, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
Every girl under the age of 25 seems to be sporting BIG ironed hair these days. I think it's a horrible look. And enormous handbags with dozens of buckles, studs, straps, and random pointless metal bits.
Will stylish simplicity ever come back in?
Will stylish simplicity ever come back in?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
People who wear tracksuits when they look as if they have never done any physical activity in their entire life ::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
CF, I've never yet seen anyone attired head to toe in sportswear who doesn't look like the closest they get to physical exercise is playing fifa on the PS3. Just look at all the people in those sportswear shops on a saturday afternoon - mostly fat, mostly lazy, mostly buying clothes that don't have buttons because they like an expandable waistband. Tchuh!
Last time I went looking for gear for gym/jogging I was astonished at how many of them there are. And that sports shops even SELL DRESSES. Branded dresses with appropriate logo in prominent place. I'm not making it up. It's ridiculous.
Don't get me started on trying to buy trainers....
Last time I went looking for gear for gym/jogging I was astonished at how many of them there are. And that sports shops even SELL DRESSES. Branded dresses with appropriate logo in prominent place. I'm not making it up. It's ridiculous.
Don't get me started on trying to buy trainers....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 28 October, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 28 October, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
skirts and trousers? cos trousers are comfortable and keep yer legs warm and are good for running in, and skirts are pretty & cover yer arse. combined ? why not.
crocs? I resisted for long enough, but needed something between the orthopeadic crip boots and furry slippers, as furry slippers get wrecked sloching out to compost heap etc. crocs? ( or their £2 equivalent ) waterproof comfy slippers ...result !
okay , so whats the appeal of teen vampires then ?
crocs? I resisted for long enough, but needed something between the orthopeadic crip boots and furry slippers, as furry slippers get wrecked sloching out to compost heap etc. crocs? ( or their £2 equivalent ) waterproof comfy slippers ...result !
okay , so whats the appeal of teen vampires then ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 October, 2009, 05:11:11 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 October, 2009, 05:11:11 PM
Deformed (e.g.bobble headed) action figures.
I can just about see the appeal of proper dolls that you take out of the box and lay with but all of these deformed variant figures (Here's the terminator with a huge head in a manga style) look crap to me...
I can just about see the appeal of proper dolls that you take out of the box and lay with but all of these deformed variant figures (Here's the terminator with a huge head in a manga style) look crap to me...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Appeal of teenage vampires?
There isn't any.
There isn't any.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 05:17:04 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
What are those things that emo/skater boys have in their ears? I think they're called flesh tubes (funny, I thought that was something else). Ah, google informs me they're called 'flesh tunnels' - either way they're revolting and you may well end up looking like this
http://i43.tinypic.com/117edkh.jpg%22%20border=%220
Eeeuurrrgghhh.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 05:21:25 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 October, 2009, 05:21:25 PM
QuoteAppeal of teenage vampires?
There isn't any.
Agreed. Teenagers are practically vampires anyway (parasitic, light-hating, morose, high pitched bat-like squeaking, obsessed with swapping bodily fluids, smell like something died, think they'll live for ever), so there's nothing to be gained by fictionalising them. Hunting them down and staking them, that's another matter.
Pull the ladder up, I say, adulthood is full.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 28 October, 2009, 05:25:56 PM
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 28 October, 2009, 05:25:56 PM
Young girls all seem to favour what can only be described as Fonzie Jackets.
It'll be interesting to see what the new look will be.
The leggings and flat shoe/Ugg boot has been around for a good few years now.
It'll be interesting to see what the new look will be.
The leggings and flat shoe/Ugg boot has been around for a good few years now.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
Flip flops - for the beach yes but in decent society no. As if to prove my point somebody I know tripped over their loose flip flop earlier this year, broke their wrist and had to have a metal pin put in, had to take 3 months off work and she's still in physio. Anyway, your feet get all dirty too - yuck!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
Post by: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
boys in skinny jeans I find made of wrong. They make normal sized boys/men appear deformed and fat and skinny boys look even skinnier. Also you then find yourself unable not to look in their "area" y'know, what makes me feel, well to be fair, *more* perverted then usual.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 28 October, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
Post by: HdE on 28 October, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
I'm late to the party on this (again) but I'll add my voice tot he dissenting comments about the fashions the young (and not-so-young) ladies are following right now.
And might I add, speaking from a simple point of view on what looks good and what doesn't... LADIES. PLEASE. If you MUST wear those dreadful black legging things / tights, DON'T stick a pair of white shoes on the end. It looks DREADFUL!
I'll add zebra / leapordskin-effect clothes and shoes to the list of fashion errors too. All the class of Barry Humphries at a Women's Lib event.
And might I add, speaking from a simple point of view on what looks good and what doesn't... LADIES. PLEASE. If you MUST wear those dreadful black legging things / tights, DON'T stick a pair of white shoes on the end. It looks DREADFUL!
I'll add zebra / leapordskin-effect clothes and shoes to the list of fashion errors too. All the class of Barry Humphries at a Women's Lib event.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
Agreed and agreed and agreed.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 28 October, 2009, 05:47:32 PM
Post by: HdE on 28 October, 2009, 05:47:32 PM
Quote from: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
boys in skinny jeans I find made of wrong. They make normal sized boys/men appear deformed and fat and skinny boys look even skinnier.
Augh! Don't even get me STARTED on this!
Funniest thing that happened to me this year was going to a local bar with a couple of mates, while on the table next to me, one such pretty-boy turned up on a blind date with some young lady (incidentally, she was a black legging case with too-big hair).
Well, we were trying to enjoy our quiet pint, but the guy was talking so loudly, and punctuating everything he said with 'cos I'm a nice guy, really' that it became really distracting. In fact, the girl couldn't get a word in edgeways.
So we stifled our laughter and tried to enjoy our drinks, but we all wound up earwigging the conversation. Random tidbits kept floating our way, and making us snigger. My mate's missus nearly lost it when the fella started chattering about his views on sex before marriage without the slightest provocation.
The guy and his date eventually got up to leave, and we watched them as they walked outside. The guy stopped to chat with his date some more, but she was having none of it and just kept walking without missing a step.
My mate looked up at me and said 'ahh, the life and times of the pretty people, eh?'
We literally cried with laughter.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 05:49:44 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: stacey on 28 October, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
boys in skinny jeans I find made of wrong. They make normal sized boys/men appear deformed and fat and skinny boys look even skinnier. Also you then find yourself unable not to look in their "area" y'know, what makes me feel, well to be fair, *more* perverted then usual.
And so low-slung you can see their boxer clad arse, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased they're wearing pants, but just who are they displaying their batty to?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:52:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 05:52:23 PM
A friend of mine once attempted to defend his hip-hop low slung baggy heans by claiming they gave him "street flexibility" Even now, with him living in America nearly 20 years on, I can HEAR him blush down the phone when I mention that phrase.
Can't wait until I can legitimately tell his daughter that story.
Can't wait until I can legitimately tell his daughter that story.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
All my jeans etc are all straight cut or skinny and even 501s are tight fitting.I dont like baggy or loose fitting jeans or even T shirts and i dont feel comfortable wearing them.
Fortunately i am not fat or skinny and not normal sized so i dont look deformed as far as i can tell.
Fortunately i am not fat or skinny and not normal sized so i dont look deformed as far as i can tell.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 06:21:17 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 06:21:17 PM
Skinny jeans are the creation of SATAN - I wouldn't class myself as a big girl but the fear of muffin top makes me shudder (FYI that's why skirts/dresses are so popular over jeans)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 06:46:40 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
i am not fat or skinny and not normal sized so i dont look deformed as far as i can tell.
So you are not fat, not skinny, not normal and not deformed, I'm gonna regret it Peter but "What are you?"
I'll have a pair of Peter Wolf fit jeans please.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 07:07:30 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 07:07:30 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 06:46:40 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 28 October, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
i am not fat or skinny and not normal sized so i dont look deformed as far as i can tell.
So you are not fat, not skinny, not normal and not deformed, I'm gonna regret it Peter but "What are you?"
I'll have a pair of Peter Wolf fit jeans please.
Well built - athletic.Also is 6 - 2-3" inches normal sized ? Perhaps it is ?
33" waist - 34" leg is usually fine.
The stuff i end up talking about online......I always buy straight cut jeans because thats what i like and i never realised what a big deal it was to others.
[I feel strangely self conscious talking about what i look like or what clothes i wear online]
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 07:10:44 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 28 October, 2009, 07:10:44 PM
Damn, I had my money on you being a Dwarf Siamese Twin ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 07:10:53 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 07:10:53 PM
QuoteI feel strangely self conscious talking about what i look like or what clothes i wear online
You really shouldn't, unless you like wearing ladies underwear or dressing up like a baby ;D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 28 October, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 28 October, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
Wearing sun glasses when it is dark or indoors.. WHY?
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2009, 07:35:16 PM
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2009, 07:35:16 PM
Heat. FFS WHHHHHYYYYYY?
any mag that has some uplifting title but plasters vapid, gawking, worrying headlines.
e.g.
or
Pick-me-up? Well yes, I suppose if it's plastered with stories of people whose lives are shitter than yours, it may well do you Schadenfreude-basking c**t... ;)
any mag that has some uplifting title but plasters vapid, gawking, worrying headlines.
e.g.
or
Pick-me-up? Well yes, I suppose if it's plastered with stories of people whose lives are shitter than yours, it may well do you Schadenfreude-basking c**t... ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 07:44:53 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 07:44:53 PM
I am that "Schadenfreude-basking c**t" and I love "stories of people whose lives are shitter than [mine]" quite a bit.
You've forgotten the best of them all.
The mighty ""LOVE IT!"
You've forgotten the best of them all.
The mighty ""LOVE IT!"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Lord Running Clam on 28 October, 2009, 07:51:36 PM
Post by: Lord Running Clam on 28 October, 2009, 07:51:36 PM
I can't stand seeing people wearing hats indoors. Even worse when the hat or baseball cap is worn the wrong way round and a really weird angle.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 07:53:38 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 07:53:38 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 07:44:53 PM
I am that "Schadenfreude-basking c**t" and I love "stories of people whose lives are shitter than [mine]" quite a bit.
You've forgotten the best of them all.
The mighty ""LOVE IT!"
I mourn that once mighty organ, now it's just an average chav-mag with a worrying obsession with Katie Price and Kerry Katona
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 07:54:10 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 07:54:10 PM
Agreed on the hat/sunglasses points, folks.
Kate/Wild, your first thread would appear to be a riproaring success. Nice one.
Kate/Wild, your first thread would appear to be a riproaring success. Nice one.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2009, 08:05:55 PM
Post by: Steve Green on 28 October, 2009, 08:05:55 PM
Like I say - I don't understand the appeal.
I think it's the incongruous chirpy title and the full-on process cyan, magenta and yellow combined with the frankly soul-destroying captions of misery.
Reading the covers of those is like seeing a poster for A Muppet Schindler's List...
I think it's the incongruous chirpy title and the full-on process cyan, magenta and yellow combined with the frankly soul-destroying captions of misery.
Reading the covers of those is like seeing a poster for A Muppet Schindler's List...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 09:46:15 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 October, 2009, 09:46:15 PM
I've never quite got over 'Cannibals ate my Mum with pasta and cheese'
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 28 October, 2009, 11:01:46 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 28 October, 2009, 11:01:46 PM
Women who say things without being spoken to.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 28 October, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 28 October, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
This "celebrity" culture we are living in. Most of these people having derived fame from doing nothing of merit or of benefit to other.
Also, all those mags that McWild mentioned.
Also, all those mags that McWild mentioned.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 28 October, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 28 October, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
The fucking Jeremy Kyle show and it's new underclass of British society, that spend all there fucking time rutting and producing even more subhuman scum.
filip
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
The skinny jean hate is totally justified. Yeah. *ahem*
*Hides his 28' inch waist jeans*
I don't wear them below my bum! Honest!
*Hides his 28' inch waist jeans*
I don't wear them below my bum! Honest!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: flip-r mk2 on 28 October, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
The fucking Jeremy Kyle show and it's new underclass of British society, that spend all there fucking time rutting and producing even more subhuman scum.
Whoa, calm down Adolf! The people who like to parade their dysfunction on shows like JK are fair game, but you seem to have a rather Victorian attitude towards the whole lower classes. Do you hate everyone who doesn't have a job? What criteria do you use to differentiate between people who don't have much money and live in crappy areas and those who are "subhuman scum"?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
In my own defence Skinny cut jeans and straight cut jeans are not the same thing .
Emo kids seem to like skinny cut jeans and yes they always look stupid in them and i dont see the appeal of the Emo look but then i am a 41 yr old adult so i wouldnt be expected to.
Emo kids seem to like skinny cut jeans and yes they always look stupid in them and i dont see the appeal of the Emo look but then i am a 41 yr old adult so i wouldnt be expected to.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 12:47:08 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 12:47:08 PM
QuoteWhoa, calm down Adolf!
Godwin's Law enacted in your first thread, wild-seven! Outstanding (if inevitable)!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 12:47:08 PMQuoteWhoa, calm down Adolf!
Godwin's Law enacted in your first thread, wild-seven! Outstanding (if inevitable)!
Gaargh, I've unwittingly become a cliche! Oh, the shame! ;D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
DDD & Flip:
Deep breaths, yeah? Calm and serene, calm and serene. I'm sure neither of you intended offence, let's just shake hands and move on and forget about it. This place is only meant to errupt into misunderstandings and grumpiness when Scott's here, let's not show him we can do without him, eh?
Deep breaths, yeah? Calm and serene, calm and serene. I'm sure neither of you intended offence, let's just shake hands and move on and forget about it. This place is only meant to errupt into misunderstandings and grumpiness when Scott's here, let's not show him we can do without him, eh?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
To be honest, I'm with Filip on this one. There *is* a new underclass of Epsilon Semi-Morons who believe they're entitled to take what they want without giving anything back to society. They don't follow the rules of society, and they reproduce at an alarming rate.
Nothing wrong with being working class - I count myself, my family and the majority of my friends among them. I work for a living (modest though it may be), ergo I am working class.
For one reason or another, working class people sometimes find themselves out of work. At this point they look for another job which, granted, can sometimes take a while. I'm cool with that. Been there myself.
Sometimes, an individual may be unable to start looking for work for any number of valid reasons (disability, etc). Again, that's a-OK with me.
Now, your average Epsilon doesn't have a job. Never has, never will. The Epsilon has no intention of ever seriously applying for a job. Why work for a living when you can just squeeze out another poor sod to join the ever-swelling ranks of hooded scumbags and the government will just give you a home and some cash. Might not be much, but it's enough for fags and booze, right?
And it's an exponential thing. If the parents don't encourage their kids to do well, to develop and learn, if they feed them on a diet that consists solely of takeaways and Coke, if the only way they interact with them is to shout "Shut up, you little bastard - I'm trying to watch the telly" through a cloud of cigarette smoke, what are the chances of the child growing up to become a productive member of society?
Oh, and before anyone hits the Hitler button, I'm not suggesting any solution to the problem, final or otherwise. I'm just agreeing with Filip's assertion that there is a problem.
Anyway - apologies for further derailing the thread with that little polemic. I don't understand the appeal of, er, Soap Operas. Will that do for now?
Nothing wrong with being working class - I count myself, my family and the majority of my friends among them. I work for a living (modest though it may be), ergo I am working class.
For one reason or another, working class people sometimes find themselves out of work. At this point they look for another job which, granted, can sometimes take a while. I'm cool with that. Been there myself.
Sometimes, an individual may be unable to start looking for work for any number of valid reasons (disability, etc). Again, that's a-OK with me.
Now, your average Epsilon doesn't have a job. Never has, never will. The Epsilon has no intention of ever seriously applying for a job. Why work for a living when you can just squeeze out another poor sod to join the ever-swelling ranks of hooded scumbags and the government will just give you a home and some cash. Might not be much, but it's enough for fags and booze, right?
And it's an exponential thing. If the parents don't encourage their kids to do well, to develop and learn, if they feed them on a diet that consists solely of takeaways and Coke, if the only way they interact with them is to shout "Shut up, you little bastard - I'm trying to watch the telly" through a cloud of cigarette smoke, what are the chances of the child growing up to become a productive member of society?
Oh, and before anyone hits the Hitler button, I'm not suggesting any solution to the problem, final or otherwise. I'm just agreeing with Filip's assertion that there is a problem.
Anyway - apologies for further derailing the thread with that little polemic. I don't understand the appeal of, er, Soap Operas. Will that do for now?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 02:46:41 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 02:46:41 PM
I was mentally composing a detailed response to Noisybast, but then I remembered the hellish half-term queue I'd stood in when buying my Prog at lunchtime and suddenly didn't have the heart.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 03:14:10 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 03:14:10 PM
?
Fair do's - I just thought it was a bit of a leap from "don't see the appeal of" to "subhuman scum"
To get back to the theme of the thread, (and this will cause much disagreement) I don't see the appeal of i-phones. I don't like the shape or design of them on an aesthetic level and I'm sick of being told it can do all these "essential" things that I've never felt a need for. Eveytime someone shows me their latest hilatrious 'app' (hate that word) I usually comment along the lines of "ooh - a fake lighter/pint of beer/lightsabre? That's DEFINITELY worth £35 a month!". many appleheads nod enthusiastically as they haven't downloaded the 'sarcasm detector' app.
The only one that does appeal is the one that identifies music tracks by simply holding the phone up to a speaker. How reliable is it? Does this work always/usually/never?
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 01:12:50 PM
DDD & Flip:
Deep breaths, yeah? Calm and serene, calm and serene. I'm sure neither of you intended offence, let's just shake hands and move on and forget about it. This place is only meant to errupt into misunderstandings and grumpiness when Scott's here, let's not show him we can do without him, eh?
Fair do's - I just thought it was a bit of a leap from "don't see the appeal of" to "subhuman scum"
To get back to the theme of the thread, (and this will cause much disagreement) I don't see the appeal of i-phones. I don't like the shape or design of them on an aesthetic level and I'm sick of being told it can do all these "essential" things that I've never felt a need for. Eveytime someone shows me their latest hilatrious 'app' (hate that word) I usually comment along the lines of "ooh - a fake lighter/pint of beer/lightsabre? That's DEFINITELY worth £35 a month!". many appleheads nod enthusiastically as they haven't downloaded the 'sarcasm detector' app.
The only one that does appeal is the one that identifies music tracks by simply holding the phone up to a speaker. How reliable is it? Does this work always/usually/never?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 03:29:56 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 03:29:56 PM
It was a bit of a leap, but hey we all get a little over enthusiastic now and then. Anyway, let's forget about that.
No, I don't get iphones either. That application (not so hard to say or type the WHOLE word, is it techy apple types?) sounds good though.
The only thing I want my phone to do is
1. call people/recieve calls
2. text messages
3. take photos (I'm a new comer to this but seeing my real camera is big and cumbersome, you don't always have it when you see something cool).
4. Go online, usually here or facebook, when bored on journeys.
5. play tetris.
That's it.
No, I don't get iphones either. That application (not so hard to say or type the WHOLE word, is it techy apple types?) sounds good though.
The only thing I want my phone to do is
1. call people/recieve calls
2. text messages
3. take photos (I'm a new comer to this but seeing my real camera is big and cumbersome, you don't always have it when you see something cool).
4. Go online, usually here or facebook, when bored on journeys.
5. play tetris.
That's it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 03:14:10 PM
Does this work always/usually/never?
There are a couple. The one I have -- Shazam -- is usually spot on. It correctly identified the track playing in a different room of a crowded pub on a Saturday night. It also tells you the album it's from, provides a link to iTunes if you want to buy either the track or the album, and geo-tags your location so you can go back and see where you were when you heard it ...
The Maps application is practically as good as GPS and, since I have .mac/Mobile Me, my e-mail, address book, calendar and internet bookmarks are synched across phone, laptop and desktop.
Since all my business comes via e-mail, and I'm the bottom of the lettering food chain meaning that I get a fair amount of last minute/deadline panic work, this is all invaluable to me.*
Cheers
Jim
*No, before anyone jumps in, I am not saying that these features are unique to Apple or the iPhone. Nonetheless, setting them up required ticking approximately one check box on each machine, and has been hassle-free ever since.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tanky on 29 October, 2009, 04:36:53 PM
Post by: Tanky on 29 October, 2009, 04:36:53 PM
I look fucking amazing in my skinny jeans 8)
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Carry on ;)
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Carry on ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
You really don't! :D
Kidding. Horses for courses, innit? I don't get them personally and think they look daft, but we're CLEARLY in the minority if so many folks are wearing them (and presumably think they look good). That's why I like this thread, it's permission to admit to not understanding things that seemingly everyone else does.
And in that spirit.
I don't get Douglas Adams or Terry Pratchett. Which may well mark me out as a lone voice amoung sci-fi geekery, but I don't care. I've never enjoyed anything by either of them, and I've read a lot (thanks to the library, think i'd have cried if I'd paid money to read them). Neither writer has ever made me care about a character, made me laugh or made me think. Presumably these are among their intentions and, while I appreciate they're obviously more talented than me and that lots of other folks enjoy it, neither writer works for me. Sorry.
Kidding. Horses for courses, innit? I don't get them personally and think they look daft, but we're CLEARLY in the minority if so many folks are wearing them (and presumably think they look good). That's why I like this thread, it's permission to admit to not understanding things that seemingly everyone else does.
And in that spirit.
I don't get Douglas Adams or Terry Pratchett. Which may well mark me out as a lone voice amoung sci-fi geekery, but I don't care. I've never enjoyed anything by either of them, and I've read a lot (thanks to the library, think i'd have cried if I'd paid money to read them). Neither writer has ever made me care about a character, made me laugh or made me think. Presumably these are among their intentions and, while I appreciate they're obviously more talented than me and that lots of other folks enjoy it, neither writer works for me. Sorry.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
You really don't! :D
Kidding. Horses for courses, innit? I don't get them personally and think they look daft, but we're CLEARLY in the minority if so many folks are wearing them (and presumably think they look good). That's why I like this thread, it's permission to admit to not understanding things that seemingly everyone else does.
And in that spirit.
I was going to say the same thing.It is horses for courses and some girls do look good in skinny cut jeans.
As for myself i am not going to wer anything that i look shit wearing like baggy or loose cut jeans.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 03:14:10 PM
I don't see the appeal of i-phones.
See, now iPhones I can agree with you on. Stupid bloody status symbols for teenage girls and people with more money than sense.
Strike one: I have an iPod. The 80gb one. It currently houses 46.7gb of music. An iPhone isn't going to be of much use as an MP3 player, then. And yes, before you ask, I do listen to it all.
Strike two: I hate mobile phones with a passion. I am by nature a curmudgeonly, antisocial type, and resent having to interact with people any more than is absolutely necessary. Why would I want to lumber myself with what is essentially a tracking device for chatty people? And yet I have, because that's what people do.
Strike three: Why on earth does anybody need an application on their phone to keep track of where they parked their car? Cars are a) large and b) expensive. Those two factors alone should make misplacing them rather unlikely. While I will concede that some of the available apps would be genuinely useful to some people (the GPS one for hikers, for example), I've yet to meet anyone who actually uses an iPhone app for anything other than novelty purposes.
Bah...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 05:23:09 PM
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 05:23:09 PM
This whole thread is starting to smack of 'I hate the modern world, it smells funny'.
But I don't blame any of you, there are some bloody stupid trends and some bloody stupid technology kicking about.
But I don't blame any of you, there are some bloody stupid trends and some bloody stupid technology kicking about.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
See, now iPhones I can agree with you on. Stupid bloody status symbols for teenage girls and people with more money than sense.
Fuck off. Seriously.
If I didn't have a portable device on which I could receive my e-mail immediately, I would face the choice of either losing business every time I needed to go to the shops, or be tied to my desk or laptop from my UK clients' business hours starting up -- 8:30 to 9:00am -- to my US clients' business hours concluding -- 11:00 to 12:00pm.
The doesn't specifically require an iPhone, but it does require a device in that broad class and, as someone already using the .mac/MobileMe service, I get push e-mail -- something not widely associated with a consumer device -- as part of that package.
Which isn't to say that there aren't a lot of arseholes with iPhones, obviously, but the fact that YOU don't see value in it doesn't mean that there ISN'T value in it.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 05:52:24 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 12:47:08 PMQuoteWhoa, calm down Adolf!
Godwin's Law enacted in your first thread, wild-seven! Outstanding (if inevitable)!
*sniffle* I'm so proud!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
I'm very annoyed by the vapid teenagers who treat things like iphones/blackberrys etc as status symbols, but the joke's on them - they're never going to use the large amounts of functionality they're paying for, so they already are recieving their punishment and they're so stupid they don't even realise it. The ultimate irony was the other day, on a bus, a kid was crowing about his loudly and showing it off to his mates. It struck me he'd probably be driving a souped up capri (or whatever modern equivalent) if he hadn't chained himself to such a technological albatross he'd never get the full benefit of.
Many people I know are in Jim's position, where they really need to be contactable easily, often and in a variety of ways (the main people I can think of are a self-employed tradesman and a recently qualified doctor, both need access to calls/email etc anywhere at any time). In that circumstance, they're not just handy they're invaluable.
Many people I know are in Jim's position, where they really need to be contactable easily, often and in a variety of ways (the main people I can think of are a self-employed tradesman and a recently qualified doctor, both need access to calls/email etc anywhere at any time). In that circumstance, they're not just handy they're invaluable.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 06:02:21 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Fuck off. Seriously.
Hey, I did say: "While I will concede that some of the available apps would be genuinely useful to some people (the GPS one for hikers, for example), I've yet to meet anyone who actually uses an iPhone app for anything other than novelty purposes".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
Kate, honestly, how PROUD are you?
First thread and already a bone of contention has arisen TWICE!
First thread and already a bone of contention has arisen TWICE!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 06:08:23 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
Kate, honestly, how PROUD are you?
First thread and already a bone of contention has arisen TWICE!
I can't put it into words, I'm choked up! Another thing I've decided that I can't see the point of is handbags (I'm a rucksack girl myself) that have straps which are too short to put over your shoulder meaning you have to carry them in the crook of your arm and cause you to knock into everyone. Oh and the woman with the pushchair who shoved me out of the way earlier - yes, it WAS you I swore at
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:16:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:16:45 PM
Another example of the "Arrogance of Parenthood". Apparently having had successful, viable offspring is a bloody excuse for anything.
Did she just look meaningfully at her child as if the fact some sweaty oik had haunched her was reason enough for her ignorant behaviour? That's one I've had before. Huge fun to puncture.
Did she just look meaningfully at her child as if the fact some sweaty oik had haunched her was reason enough for her ignorant behaviour? That's one I've had before. Huge fun to puncture.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 29 October, 2009, 06:29:30 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 29 October, 2009, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:16:45 PM
"some sweaty oik had haunched her"
Stop emulating speech patterns dreamt up by Pat Mills! It'll do you no good in the long run!
:P
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 29 October, 2009, 06:53:49 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 29 October, 2009, 06:53:49 PM
I don't understand the appeal of: X-Factor, Katie Price, Kerry Katona, fat girls going out with a bare midriff, thin girls out with a bare midriff September through to May, anyone going out anywhere underdressed, wide belts (except maybe to cover up a bare midriff?), flip flops, ugg boots (wasn't a woman hit by a train at a level crossing trying to retrieve one?), handbags, tracksuits, falling down trousers and on-display underpants, wearing hats indoors, woolly beanie hats except for anyone who's trying to hide going bald, gross ear piercings, school proms, graduation from anything other than a university, graduation from anything including a university, the Last Night of the Proms, celebrity tittle tattle, 'Heat!', 'Pick Me Up', The Jeremy Kyle Show, i-technology of any sort ("me" technology?), or bobble heads.
But I can see the appeal of: shopping, on a budget, for things you can really use or that will brighten your day; big, ironed hair; teenage vampires (although they are emphatically not as cool as grown-up vampires - teen vampires are only cool when they have a teen audience), and boys in skinny jeans. Tanky and Peter look amazing in theirs! I have a couple of pairs myself. Not for daily wear, I'll grant you, because I do have a big fat arse. But if you can wear wear them, there's nowt wrong with them. I'm wearing a nice and comfortable baggy fit pair right now, but they don't tuck nicely into my boots.
But I can see the appeal of: shopping, on a budget, for things you can really use or that will brighten your day; big, ironed hair; teenage vampires (although they are emphatically not as cool as grown-up vampires - teen vampires are only cool when they have a teen audience), and boys in skinny jeans. Tanky and Peter look amazing in theirs! I have a couple of pairs myself. Not for daily wear, I'll grant you, because I do have a big fat arse. But if you can wear wear them, there's nowt wrong with them. I'm wearing a nice and comfortable baggy fit pair right now, but they don't tuck nicely into my boots.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 29 October, 2009, 06:53:49 PM
(wasn't a woman hit by a train at a level crossing trying to retrieve one?)
In the immortal words of Bill Hicks: "I don't think we lost a cure for cancer there. As far as I'm concerned, next traffic jam: I'm one closer to the front."
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 07:11:10 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 07:11:10 PM
Quotebut they don't tuck nicely into my boots.
The one saving feature of skinny/tighter jeans!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 07:14:25 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 29 October, 2009, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 06:16:45 PM
Another example of the "Arrogance of Parenthood". Apparently having had successful, viable offspring is a bloody excuse for anything.
Did she just look meaningfully at her child as if the fact some sweaty oik had haunched her was reason enough for her ignorant behaviour? That's one I've had before. Huge fun to puncture.
Sadly no, just looked at me like the pathetic scum I clearly am for nearly falling over having been rammed by her enormous buggy
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 07:16:16 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 07:16:16 PM
Sorry for the use o "haunch" - I promise, Mr Mills, it'l never happen again and I didn't make a penny out of it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 07:17:06 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 07:17:06 PM
Oh, and HoU? Best post on this thread so far. Well done.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 07:41:51 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 07:41:51 PM
Sounds like someone had a run in with a self important parent.
Theres plenty of them out there......
Theres plenty of them out there......
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 07:42:38 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 07:42:38 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 05:32:43 PMIf I didn't have a portable device on which I could receive my e-mail immediately, I would face the choice of either losing business every time I needed to go to the shops, or be tied to my desk or laptop from my UK clients' business hours starting up -- 8:30 to 9:00am -- to my US clients' business hours concluding -- 11:00 to 12:00pm.
I don't buy this. Nobody expects an e-mail to be replied to IMMEDIATELY - if they need to get hold of you that urgently, why not call you? Any cheap mobile phone can do that. I'm sure that you can check your e-mails after popping back from the shops and not lose out. If someone e-mails you at the check out in Tesco, do you drop your basket on the floor and immediately go back to work in the frozen food aisle? Or do you think, that's good, I'll reply as soon as I've finished this bit of shopping? Sounds like you're becoming a slave to your tech rather than the tech serving you.
I work in a busy office and there's an sensible rule mobiles must be switched off during the day (or on silent if necessary for childcare emergencies for example). Loads of people blatantly ignore this rule as if it's some kind of infringement of their civil rights. I think that line in Savage about people topping themselves because they couldn't face life without their mobiles is sadly coming true. (And I'd hate to be a teacher these days!)
I often opine, when the computers are throwing a hissy fit, that we created these devices to make life easier but spend all our time wrestling with them - we managed to run a global empire with big ledgers and fountain pens. The number of times I've seen work processes changed because it's the way the system requires it, is staggering - the machines should support what WE want to do, we shouldn't have to arrange working practices around the way the software works, which is all too often the case.
Basically I'm with Noisybast - I resisted a mobile for as long as I could and I resent the fact that it's getting harder and harder to function without one - eg online forms that list mobile number as a required field. Whether or not I choose to have a mobile is my business and is usually irrelevant to whatever I'm buying or booking.
*phew* rant over.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 29 October, 2009, 08:02:20 PM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 29 October, 2009, 08:02:20 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 11:36:44 AMDandontdare I think of myself as working class and although I am working at the moment I have spent time on the dole a few times.I also try to treat everybody as equals, but there are some who just don't give a fuck about anybody or anything. I think that Noisybast explains it all lot better than I ever couldQuote from: flip-r mk2 on 28 October, 2009, 11:53:37 PM
The fucking Jeremy Kyle show and it's new underclass of British society, that spend all there fucking time rutting and producing even more subhuman scum.
Whoa, calm down Adolf! The people who like to parade their dysfunction on shows like JK are fair game, but you seem to have a rather Victorian attitude towards the whole lower classes. Do you hate everyone who doesn't have a job? What criteria do you use to differentiate between people who don't have much money and live in crappy areas and those who are "subhuman scum"?
Quote from: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 02:36:20 PMI apologize if I caused you offence and hope you don't hold it against me.
To be honest, I'm with Filip on this one. There *is* a new underclass of Epsilon Semi-Morons who believe they're entitled to take what they want without giving anything back to society. They don't follow the rules of society, and they reproduce at an alarming rate.
Nothing wrong with being working class - I count myself, my family and the majority of my friends among them. I work for a living (modest though it may be), ergo I am working class.
For one reason or another, working class people sometimes find themselves out of work. At this point they look for another job which, granted, can sometimes take a while. I'm cool with that. Been there myself.
Sometimes, an individual may be unable to start looking for work for any number of valid reasons (disability, etc). Again, that's a-OK with me.
Now, your average Epsilon doesn't have a job. Never has, never will. The Epsilon has no intention of ever seriously applying for a job. Why work for a living when you can just squeeze out another poor sod to join the ever-swelling ranks of hooded scumbags and the government will just give you a home and some cash. Might not be much, but it's enough for fags and booze, right?
And it's an exponential thing. If the parents don't encourage their kids to do well, to develop and learn, if they feed them on a diet that consists solely of takeaways and Coke, if the only way they interact with them is to shout "Shut up, you little bastard - I'm trying to watch the telly" through a cloud of cigarette smoke, what are the chances of the child growing up to become a productive member of society?
Oh, and before anyone hits the Hitler button, I'm not suggesting any solution to the problem, final or otherwise. I'm just agreeing with Filip's assertion that there is a problem.
Anyway - apologies for further derailing the thread with that little polemic. I don't understand the appeal of, er, Soap Operas. Will that do for now?
filip
Back to Wild-seven's original post, what is it with wooly ugg boots especially in Scotland with or lovely weather.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:02:57 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:02:57 PM
QuoteNobody expects an e-mail to be replied to IMMEDIATELY - if they need to get hold of you that urgently, why not call you?
I have had plenty of clients who expect response to e-mails within a few hours. As these tend to be project management companies, the reason they use e-mail instead of a civilised phonecall is to create a 'paper' trail to show their client that they have in fact contacted the useless archaeologist in question, supplied the necessary contract information, and from that point on every delay and problem are clearly my fault. I would also regularly get sent revisions or requests for changes or additions to planning reports at lunchtime on Friday for submission by 4.30. Similarly, site meeting agendas and progress reports have hour-scale turnarounds, and I could be making a 2 hour journey to the meeting in question. You can see how instant mobile e-mail might be handy there.
In addition, work is so tight at the moment that if you don't get a tender written and back to a prospective by the end of business, they'll go with one of the five other companies that have.
I'm lucky enough to have an office manager who can screen my work e-mail if I'm away from WiFi land and ring me with the short version. If I didn't, I'd have an iPhone (or equivalent, but Apple hasn't let me down yet).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 08:11:18 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:02:57 PMQuoteNobody expects an e-mail to be replied to IMMEDIATELY - if they need to get hold of you that urgently, why not call you?
I have had plenty of clients who expect response to e-mails within a few hours.
Exactly - 'within a few hours' is reasonable. You don't need an i-phone in your pocket when you pop out for a pint of milk though! If you're doing non work-related things that take more than a few hours then YOU'RE NOT AT WORK!
And my point about labelling people as 'subhuman scum', 'chavs', 'epsilons', or whatever the latest term of abuse is, is how can you tell someone's family history, health status, attitude and current situation by looking? It's like people who generally don't like Asians usually justify it by talking about illegal immigrants, but they tend to look the same.
Just because you regard yourself as working class (as do about 80% of middle class people I find - it's a meaningless label these days) does not mean that you're immune from snobbery
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 08:11:55 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 07:42:38 PM
I don't buy this.
Excuse me? Considering the hissy fit you had the last time we had a discussion like this and I had the audacity to suggest that you didn't need a car, I take exception to you suggesting that I am being either disingenuous or self-deluding.
QuoteNobody expects an e-mail to be replied to IMMEDIATELY - if they need to get hold of you that urgently, why not call you? Any cheap mobile phone can do that.
Did you actually read what I wrote, or did you just decide to take a couple of cheap shots? Many of my clients are in the States and they most certainly do not want to phone me.
In fact, I've just been offered a job in the last 30 minutes by a US publisher. It has to be on the press in less than a fortnight. Let's assume I'd gone to the pub this evening and didn't have an e-mail capable phone. Do you think that my client would have waited until tomorrow for a reply confirming that I could take on the job, or do you think he would have moved on to the next letterer in his address book?
QuoteIf someone e-mails you at the check out in Tesco, do you drop your basket on the floor and immediately go back to work in the frozen food aisle?
No. Of course I fucking don't. What I can do, however, is fire back a quick reply confirming that I am available (or, equally importantly, that I'm not so that they can try the next letterer on their list) and thus try to maintain that all-important relationship where the client thinks of me as the reliable guy who gets back to them straight away and doesn't dick them around.
QuoteSounds like you're becoming a slave to your tech rather than the tech serving you.
Do not fucking presume to make judgements about me or my life: just fucking don't.
As much as I love lettering, it is incredibly poorly paid for the most part, so it's all about volume, it's all about getting the work in, and it's not like there's a shortage of people who'll step up and take my work if I let my editors think that I'm in any way blasé about the work they're offering me.
As you so sanctimoniously said last time: don't confuse "want" and "need" ... well, in so far as I only "want" to pay my mortgage and only "want" to put food on the table then, no, you're quite right, I don't "need" an e-mail capable phone.
Bah.
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 08:26:09 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 08:26:09 PM
Firstly - I'm genuinely sorry Jim if it came across as a personal attack or making judgements about you, that certainly wasn't my intention.
I'd need to check the thread to be sure, but I doubt I ever extolled the necessity of car ownership - I don't need a car, and I've recently given up my 18 month experimentation in (shared) car ownership for this very reason. I was picking it up, dropping it off and spending loads of money on it without any improvement in my life - more hassle than it was worth.
I can only speak for myself, but if I had to reply to business e-mails 24/7, even when I was out for an evening in the pub, or be unable to pay my mortgage, I'd look for another job. If this is the price you pay to do a job that you love, and if you feel that this sort of work/life balance is acceptable, then more power to you my friend. Personally, I like to put in my time (however crappy and unsatisfying) and then clock off and get on with my real life without thinking about it till the next shift.
Again, it's only a personal opinion, not an attack or criticism!
I'd need to check the thread to be sure, but I doubt I ever extolled the necessity of car ownership - I don't need a car, and I've recently given up my 18 month experimentation in (shared) car ownership for this very reason. I was picking it up, dropping it off and spending loads of money on it without any improvement in my life - more hassle than it was worth.
I can only speak for myself, but if I had to reply to business e-mails 24/7, even when I was out for an evening in the pub, or be unable to pay my mortgage, I'd look for another job. If this is the price you pay to do a job that you love, and if you feel that this sort of work/life balance is acceptable, then more power to you my friend. Personally, I like to put in my time (however crappy and unsatisfying) and then clock off and get on with my real life without thinking about it till the next shift.
Again, it's only a personal opinion, not an attack or criticism!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
slappers, but when needs must and all that ;)
I must point out that the above is from before I was married.
I must point out that the above is from before I was married.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 29 October, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 29 October, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
So now it's slippers then John. ;)
Dredd slippers....naturally.
Dredd slippers....naturally.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:38:25 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 29 October, 2009, 08:38:25 PM
QuoteIf you're doing non work-related things that take more than a few hours then YOU'RE NOT AT WORK!
While I'm not particularly exercised on the subject, I should clarify that my work regularly means me standing in a field for hours on end, arguing in draughty site huts, or driving back and forth across the country to meetings, libraries, sites, conferences and so forth. If I don't deal with e-mail while doing all those thing, then when I've finished the current job I won't have any work for the foreseeable future.
Incidentally, this (regrettably) applies while I'm on holiday, at weekends etc. Actual examples: I've had to write invoices in Greek ferry terminals, edit reports on Spanish balconies, arrange personnel scehdules from a labour ward waiting room, and I've even submitted a successful tender from the bar of a naturist campsite (beat that, Campbell). Mobiel email is hugely important to me. That's why I'm on here all the bloody time, because if I'm not physically moving I'm staring at this laptop screen.
I'd like it to be otherwise, but my experience over the last five-or-so years is that I need internet access to stay in work. I don't currently need it through a phone because I have a car and an office manager, and I know just about every free WiFi spot within two hours drive. If I didn't have those, I'd need an e-mail capable phone. Simple as.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 08:38:53 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 08:38:53 PM
If only Kerrin, are you listening Tharg!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 08:40:14 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 08:40:14 PM
It seems sensible in the post-Bankster bailout Scam recession that if you are freelance then you have to be able to take up offers of work as and when they come in and if i was in that line of business i would rather have a mobile and not miss the call than not have a mobile and miss the call.
Just as long as the recipitent of the call doesnt start braying loudly into their mobile while i am drinking in the pub or wherever then its fine by me.
Just as long as the recipitent of the call doesnt start braying loudly into their mobile while i am drinking in the pub or wherever then its fine by me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 08:41:29 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 08:41:29 PM
Slappers, slippers, let's call the whole thing off.
Or should that be "hole"
Fnar fnar
No, I've never quite understood that either. I'm not saying I'm some kind of prude, but I reckon you should only really have sex with someone you're in a relationship with and you should only enter into (so to speak) a relationship with someone who you could happily spend lots of time with WITHOUT having sex (because once you get married, that's what's going to happen). That way, once you've boinked and fallen straight asleep they can still hold a conversation beyond "YOU GIT, YOU FELL ASLEEP".
If they don't give you static for that, marry them.
As for mobile conversations, if I'm at all able (i.e. not on a train, bus) I take my conversation outside where it's less likely to get on people's tits.
Or should that be "hole"
Fnar fnar
No, I've never quite understood that either. I'm not saying I'm some kind of prude, but I reckon you should only really have sex with someone you're in a relationship with and you should only enter into (so to speak) a relationship with someone who you could happily spend lots of time with WITHOUT having sex (because once you get married, that's what's going to happen). That way, once you've boinked and fallen straight asleep they can still hold a conversation beyond "YOU GIT, YOU FELL ASLEEP".
If they don't give you static for that, marry them.
As for mobile conversations, if I'm at all able (i.e. not on a train, bus) I take my conversation outside where it's less likely to get on people's tits.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 October, 2009, 08:26:09 PM
Again, it's only a personal opinion, not an attack or criticism!
Ahh ... I'm just bristling a bit. Pay me no mind.
The fact is, most of my previous jobs have had some element of managerial responsibility, and the five-o'clock-walk-out-and-leave-it-behind scenario has never really applied ... there's always been an out-of-hours component which I've always resented. Doing this, I get to do a job I enjoy, I've rediscovered the pleasure of drawing, and I can copy the job I'm working on over to the laptop and take it down the pub for the afternoon.
A number of persistent health issues that were (it's now obvious) stress-related have cleared up completely. If it takes an e-mail enabled phone and a few evening mails, that's a price eminently worth paying.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
Good for you, Jim.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 October, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
I just had a work related call 10 minutes ago about a planning application on a listed building that needed commenting on so i gave my advice for nothing which took up nearly an hour of my time but i might get the work so it has to be done.
I am tired of giving advice to others for nothing and having them picking my brains for nothing when it should be paid for.
I am tired of giving advice to others for nothing and having them picking my brains for nothing when it should be paid for.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 10:13:05 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
Good for you, Jim.
Gawd bless you, squire.
Don't get me wrong -- the persistent uncertainty about your income has a stress factor all of its own, and delays to two large jobs I'd kind of been relying on mean that I'll probably have to get a temping agency to stick me in an office job for a couple of months till they come through ... but for all that, it's a hell of a thing, working for yourself ...
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 October, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 29 October, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
I do like Marcus Brigstock's comment about I-Phones though...
"All of you people with I-Phones; you only bought it, you didn't INVENT it"
I plan on getting myself one on the next upgrade but I'm fully aware that it's no longer just a phone. And there's nothing wrong with that.
"All of you people with I-Phones; you only bought it, you didn't INVENT it"
I plan on getting myself one on the next upgrade but I'm fully aware that it's no longer just a phone. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 29 October, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
Post by: radiator on 29 October, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
I still don't see the appeal of Twitter, and don't have an account. I'm loathe to write things off though, as I initially dismissed mobile phones and Myspace and eventually had to do an embarrassing u-turn on those once converted!
I'm still a bit annoyed that facebook, which I do like, keeps changing to be more like Twitter, when personally I much preferred it circa 2006 when it was more like having your own little web-page, as opposed to now, where it's more about the tedious status updates and news feeds. The truth is that very few people are capable of writing something snappy, interesting or clever in one sentence!
I'm indifferent on iPhones, on the whole I like Apple products but I must admit I can't help but snigger at the ad that evangelises about the app that 'works out your share of the bill' - what, like, a calculator?
I can appreciate, or at least respect most genres of music, but I've always disliked RnB, and always will.
I'm still a bit annoyed that facebook, which I do like, keeps changing to be more like Twitter, when personally I much preferred it circa 2006 when it was more like having your own little web-page, as opposed to now, where it's more about the tedious status updates and news feeds. The truth is that very few people are capable of writing something snappy, interesting or clever in one sentence!
I'm indifferent on iPhones, on the whole I like Apple products but I must admit I can't help but snigger at the ad that evangelises about the app that 'works out your share of the bill' - what, like, a calculator?
I can appreciate, or at least respect most genres of music, but I've always disliked RnB, and always will.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 10:37:54 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 29 October, 2009, 10:37:54 PM
Coffee shops. I only go in with the missus and I will get her a coffee and something to eat but I will sit there with nothing. I would rather buy a coke from another shop and drink it walking down the street later than buy stuff for myself from these places.
They are just not my cup of tea (I don't drink tea by the way)
They are just not my cup of tea (I don't drink tea by the way)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 10:39:56 PM
Post by: Christov on 29 October, 2009, 10:39:56 PM
You have to admit though, those icy sugary frappa mocha doo-dah wotsit drinks are fairly tempting, even if you'll instantly regret buying one for the overwhelming sugar rush alone.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
I don't get those sugary cold coffee things they sell in those places. When did cold coffee turn into something you can SELL as opposed to something you throw away after tasting it and doing a minisick? I've never seen a less tempting beverage in my life. Yuk. X
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 29 October, 2009, 11:42:54 PM
Post by: HdE on 29 October, 2009, 11:42:54 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 October, 2009, 08:55:35 PMDoing this, I get to do a job I enjoy, I've rediscovered the pleasure of drawing, and I can copy the job I'm working on over to the laptop and take it down the pub for the afternoon.
Ain't that just the best? Sometimes, if there are projects going on that I'm asked to update people for, I'll wander into town and sup a beer or two while I fling the files over t'internet. It's a beautiful thing.
As regards the theme of the thread, another thing I don't see the appeal of is public brawling.
Not one hour ago, I set foot outside my front door to go to the off-license. I open my door, and three inches in front of me, two shell-suited girls are smacking the living daylights out of each other.
What is the point?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 30 October, 2009, 01:03:51 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 30 October, 2009, 01:03:51 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 October, 2009, 08:41:29 PM
I'm not saying I'm some kind of prude, but I reckon you should only really have sex with someone you're in a relationship with and you should only enter into (so to speak) a relationship with someone who you could happily spend lots of time with
I hold a different point of view. At any time between the ages of ** and ** I would have gladly entered into a relationship just to have sex. Come to that, I did. And I would've quite happily taken the sex without the relationship too. Chance would have been a fine thing! My motto in matters of the... er... heart (?) is take it if it's offered, unless there's someone else objects, as most people who come under the heading of significant other generally do.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 October, 2009, 04:48:02 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 30 October, 2009, 04:48:02 AM
Texting without spelling the words out, I get all this stuff from my nephews and I say to them. You are lazy gits, you don't even use capital letters at the begining.
I even caught one of them writing something on facebook with a Geordie accent. He wrote something along the lines of 'can't wait to gan yam' I had to tell him on the phone and on facebook that he's not a Geordie and he couldn't have picked that accent up from his Mam, well that is unless she suddenly changed the way she spoke once I left home to go in the forces.
I even caught one of them writing something on facebook with a Geordie accent. He wrote something along the lines of 'can't wait to gan yam' I had to tell him on the phone and on facebook that he's not a Geordie and he couldn't have picked that accent up from his Mam, well that is unless she suddenly changed the way she spoke once I left home to go in the forces.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 30 October, 2009, 09:01:46 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 30 October, 2009, 09:01:46 PM
...Michael Mcintyre.
When do I get my license to kill?
When do I get my license to kill?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 30 October, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 30 October, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
well done for choosing the picture that makes him look er 'special' :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 30 October, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
Post by: Christov on 30 October, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 30 October, 2009, 09:01:46 PMHe looks so... vacant. Like a robot.
...Michael Mcintyre.
When do I get my license to kill?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 31 October, 2009, 12:14:59 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 31 October, 2009, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: Kerrin on 30 October, 2009, 09:01:46 PMI'd never heard of him until last week when my mate took me to see him live, as he couldn't find a woman willing to accompany him. I thought he was alright. A few boring stretches made up for by some funny jokes. Unfortunately, the man sitting next to me seemed to think it was the funniest thing that had ever happened ever in the history of things.
...Michael Mcintyre.
When do I get my license to kill?
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 October, 2009, 01:10:04 PMI've never really understood the appeal of sneering at MacDonalds and the like. Personally, I don't give much of a fuck about what's in my dinner, so long as it's tasty. A Big Mac is tasty, as is an Angry Whopper, Andrew Fairlie's signature wood smoked lobster or the Colonel's big bucket. As with anything, I'm not going to eat it every day but, if I'm in town of a Saturday and feeling peckish I'll happily grab a burger and you can shove your condescension up your arse.
The appeal of MacDonalds is simple. Sugar. Salt. Fat. And steaming hunks of mysterymeat. Simple really. These are the things people like, sad though it is. I'm not defending it or anything, just that's what I think drags folks in the doors.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 01:21:16 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 01:21:16 AM
Thanks for that considered, polite opinion.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
Sorry, hyper-sensitive and easily wound up this end. Apologies.
I don't understand the appeal of monkeys in hats.
I don't understand the appeal of monkeys in hats.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 11:28:26 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 11:28:26 AM
Each to their own but i find Mcdonalds to be sub standard and i wouldnt eat it if it was given let alone pay to eat it.I eat at BK though because they sell Aberdeen Angus beef which is fine otherwise i wouldnt eat it as i am picky about what meat i eat plus i dont support intensive farming and i dont want to eat meat that is of indeterminate origin and i do give a fuck about what is in my dinner.
So its discernment rather than condescension and i dont really give a toss what anyone else eats.Its of no consequence.
So its discernment rather than condescension and i dont really give a toss what anyone else eats.Its of no consequence.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 31 October, 2009, 12:50:14 PM
Post by: Christov on 31 October, 2009, 12:50:14 PM
Believe it or not, but McDonald's do actually use decent meat (because of some health standards and regulation hoopla), however most of the meat is reconstituted and pumped full of chemicals and preservatives and cooked in an overwhelmingly unhealthly way.
Still, it's quick, it's cheap, and it tastes fine. Just don't have it every day and you'll be able to stave off a heart attack fairly easily.
Still, it's quick, it's cheap, and it tastes fine. Just don't have it every day and you'll be able to stave off a heart attack fairly easily.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 01:13:10 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 01:13:10 PM
I don't abhor the stuff, I just try to find healthier options. Or at least ones that FEEL like healthier options - thus, if I'm in the mood for a burger and there isn't a pub around that I know does reasonable food, I have been known to go into Burger King for precisely the same reasons that Peter states. All things in moderation.
I try to avoid McDonalds though as, purely from a taste point of view, bread shouldn't be that sweet (they put sugar in it so it toasts nicely) and the chemicals play havoc with my IBS.
I try to avoid McDonalds though as, purely from a taste point of view, bread shouldn't be that sweet (they put sugar in it so it toasts nicely) and the chemicals play havoc with my IBS.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 02:26:46 PM
Post by: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
I don't understand the appeal of monkeys in hats.
Hmm. Our town has a guy who walks around perpetually in a really ridiculous looking top hat, with massive muttonchops that make him look like a monkey.
I don't understand the appeal of such flamboyant individualism. Especially given that the guy must be pushing 60.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 02:51:53 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 01:13:10 PM
I don't abhor the stuff, I just try to find healthier options. Or at least ones that FEEL like healthier options - thus, if I'm in the mood for a burger and there isn't a pub around that I know does reasonable food, I have been known to go into Burger King for precisely the same reasons that Peter states. All things in moderation.
I try to avoid McDonalds though as, purely from a taste point of view, bread shouldn't be that sweet (they put sugar in it so it toasts nicely) and the chemicals play havoc with my IBS.
I could never stand the smell of McDonalds.Its not like anything else and i always notice it walking past.Subway is acceptable though if theres nothing else but the best thing of all are cornish pasty shops.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 31 October, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 31 October, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 02:26:46 PM
Hmm. Our town has a guy who walks around perpetually in a really ridiculous looking top hat, with massive muttonchops that make him look like a monkey.
I don't understand the appeal of such flamboyant individualism. Especially given that the guy must be pushing 60.
I say more power to him. I sincerely hope that I'll stand out from the flat cap brigade when I'm a codger.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 31 October, 2009, 05:32:54 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 31 October, 2009, 05:32:54 PM
Today's mid-afternoon snack was a sausage roll and a fudge doughnut from Greggs. Fucking marvellous!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 05:43:51 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 05:43:51 PM
I don't understand the appeal of .... wait for it....
Children.
By which I mean having your own. I love my neices and nephews loads (2 of each, my brother making up for my complete lack of interest in the whole reproduction affair). I'm not saying there's anything worng with them or anyone's kids, I'm just not up for having any myself. Had huge fun playing with them this afternoon, but then I don't have to discipline them and can go home after three hours and take some headache pills.
Sorry if that's controversial.
Something else, on a related point, is I don't understand why people think that asking you why you haven't GOT any kids is remotely acceptable. There could be any number of reasons, from just not wanting any (like me) through medical reassons (which themselves could be many and varied). It's precisely none of anyone's business why I don't bloody have kids at 35, just as I wouldn't dream of asking anyone why they WANTED kids in the first place.
It's also, for some reason, incredibly popular to ask me why I don't really drink (mum's funeral and one night out the other week being the only exceptions in something approaching four years. That's none of your bloody business either. Especially when you ask "did you used to be an alcoholic?" No. Seriously. Fuck. Right. Off.
Phew.
Feel better now.
Children.
By which I mean having your own. I love my neices and nephews loads (2 of each, my brother making up for my complete lack of interest in the whole reproduction affair). I'm not saying there's anything worng with them or anyone's kids, I'm just not up for having any myself. Had huge fun playing with them this afternoon, but then I don't have to discipline them and can go home after three hours and take some headache pills.
Sorry if that's controversial.
Something else, on a related point, is I don't understand why people think that asking you why you haven't GOT any kids is remotely acceptable. There could be any number of reasons, from just not wanting any (like me) through medical reassons (which themselves could be many and varied). It's precisely none of anyone's business why I don't bloody have kids at 35, just as I wouldn't dream of asking anyone why they WANTED kids in the first place.
It's also, for some reason, incredibly popular to ask me why I don't really drink (mum's funeral and one night out the other week being the only exceptions in something approaching four years. That's none of your bloody business either. Especially when you ask "did you used to be an alcoholic?" No. Seriously. Fuck. Right. Off.
Phew.
Feel better now.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 06:09:22 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 06:09:22 PM
I'm SO pleased you said that, as a girl I'm supposed to have an all-consuming desire to own some little bastards anklebiters. Well guess what? I don't - I too have had people referring to 'when you'll have some', but the pleasure is mine because I get to tell them how I CAN'T. I leave out that I'm pleased...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 31 October, 2009, 06:23:25 PM
Post by: Christov on 31 October, 2009, 06:23:25 PM
It's perfectly normal to not want children. They're a hassle, a drain on money and resources, and will most likely hate you before they're 16.
That said, I myself do have the desire to pass on my genetic material for two reasons, the first being that I absolutely must pass on my fantastic jawline (Dredd fans, be still your beating hearts), and the second is that I'd like to do a better job of raising children than my parents did me.
It... um... boils down to a 'anything you can do, I can do better' schtick at first glance I'll admit, but I want to avoid the whole 'I'm far too busy for children, instead I'll work myself into a wreck and have sex with the office staff' thing my dad did, and hopefully whomever I spawn with will avoid the 'I'm your mum so I'm allowed to breathe down your neck and be invasive all the time' thing my mother does.
Hope for the best, children are our future, teach the world to sing, etc...
That said, I myself do have the desire to pass on my genetic material for two reasons, the first being that I absolutely must pass on my fantastic jawline (Dredd fans, be still your beating hearts), and the second is that I'd like to do a better job of raising children than my parents did me.
It... um... boils down to a 'anything you can do, I can do better' schtick at first glance I'll admit, but I want to avoid the whole 'I'm far too busy for children, instead I'll work myself into a wreck and have sex with the office staff' thing my dad did, and hopefully whomever I spawn with will avoid the 'I'm your mum so I'm allowed to breathe down your neck and be invasive all the time' thing my mother does.
Hope for the best, children are our future, teach the world to sing, etc...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Post by: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 31 October, 2009, 02:58:05 PMQuote from: HdE on 31 October, 2009, 02:26:46 PM
Hmm. Our town has a guy who walks around perpetually in a really ridiculous looking top hat, with massive muttonchops that make him look like a monkey.
I don't understand the appeal of such flamboyant individualism. Especially given that the guy must be pushing 60.
I say more power to him. I sincerely hope that I'll stand out from the flat cap brigade when I'm a codger.
I'd be inclined to be more charitable about this if the guy wasn't a complete scumbag.
I'm not really a grumpy old man - I don't mind people dressing like lunatics if they're nice lunatics ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
Trick or Treating: let's face it, it's door to door begging, I wouldn't give you a fun sized mars bar the rest of the year so why the fudge would I do it tonight?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 07:59:08 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 07:59:08 PM
Tell me about it. I had eight trick or treaters from the Cradlegrave estate earlier tonight. All teenage (with three little brats, oh how CLASSY, you're a TEENAGE PARENT? WHAT A SURPRISE!!!!). Violent, agressive, abusive morons. The police were called.
The next time anyone (except Steev 'cos he's a goth and it's his religion) says that Hallowe'en is a "bit of a laugh" I may have to punch them right in the cock. Hallowe'en - don't understand the appeal.
The next time anyone (except Steev 'cos he's a goth and it's his religion) says that Hallowe'en is a "bit of a laugh" I may have to punch them right in the cock. Hallowe'en - don't understand the appeal.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:00:29 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:00:29 PM
I have three chickens Mike ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Chickens?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:10:59 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:10:59 PM
Well you said you'd punch people right on their cock.
Here they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAsqDIfFcLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAsqDIfFcLU)
Here they are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAsqDIfFcLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAsqDIfFcLU)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 October, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
After reading this thread Halloween and trick or treating seems to be a good or a bad thing depending on where you live.
I used to do this when i was at a certain age but it was limited to the road i lived in and nowhere else and since everyone who lived in my street knew each other more or less it was never a problem and i grew out of doing it by about 13 - 14.It was also part of the build up to the neighbourhoods bonfire night celebrations held in the woods .No fireworks but just a massive bonfire and a barbeque
Shame so many have had negative experiences of it.
I used to do this when i was at a certain age but it was limited to the road i lived in and nowhere else and since everyone who lived in my street knew each other more or less it was never a problem and i grew out of doing it by about 13 - 14.It was also part of the build up to the neighbourhoods bonfire night celebrations held in the woods .No fireworks but just a massive bonfire and a barbeque
Shame so many have had negative experiences of it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:18:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:18:18 PM
Quite. I'm not averse to either chickens or kids, I just don't want one of my own (either). Unless roasted. Mmmmmm. Roast Chicken is joyous. Just had a roast. Happy.
I've never cooked a child.
I've never cooked a child.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:19:59 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:19:59 PM
Can I just say, I will never punch a chicken.
I feel such a bastard having to make that EXPLICIT. But I want it clearly understood.
I will never punch CF on any of his three cocks.
I feel such a bastard having to make that EXPLICIT. But I want it clearly understood.
I will never punch CF on any of his three cocks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
Thank you, Gladys, Elsie and Crystal will be happy to hear that ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:41:26 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:41:26 PM
What lovely names for roosters. Trannies are they?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
How very dare you!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:46:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:46:36 PM
I don't understand the appeal of transvestite roosters. Why not just get lady chickens? Eh?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:50:54 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 31 October, 2009, 08:50:54 PM
I'll have you know they never dress up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 31 October, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 31 October, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
I don't understand the appeal of children.
Nine months of misery, hours of agonising pain - and the result? A giant, screaming blood-covered maggot.
It wakes in the middle of the night, screaming. It defecates in its own clothes, and screams at you again. It urinates on you, it vomits on you. Caring for it will consume all your time, money, and attention.
As it grows, it will become increasingly cunning and cruel, tormenting you with endless questions, or constantly demanding expensive new toys. The loud screaming and vomiting will continue unabated.
In its teens it will no longer make any secret of its contempt for you, insulting you constantly, and ignoring everything you say. It wil steal from you, lie to you, and eventually, kill you.
If by some miracle you should survive into old age, they'll throw you in ahome and "reward" you with one visit a year until you pop your clogs and they take ally our hard-earned posessions and sell them for a pittance.
So they can raise some money for the new baby.
Nine months of misery, hours of agonising pain - and the result? A giant, screaming blood-covered maggot.
It wakes in the middle of the night, screaming. It defecates in its own clothes, and screams at you again. It urinates on you, it vomits on you. Caring for it will consume all your time, money, and attention.
As it grows, it will become increasingly cunning and cruel, tormenting you with endless questions, or constantly demanding expensive new toys. The loud screaming and vomiting will continue unabated.
In its teens it will no longer make any secret of its contempt for you, insulting you constantly, and ignoring everything you say. It wil steal from you, lie to you, and eventually, kill you.
If by some miracle you should survive into old age, they'll throw you in ahome and "reward" you with one visit a year until you pop your clogs and they take ally our hard-earned posessions and sell them for a pittance.
So they can raise some money for the new baby.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 31 October, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 31 October, 2009, 08:46:36 PM
I don't understand the appeal of transvestite roosters. Why not just get lady chickens? Eh?
Mmmmm tranny roosters...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
Did someone mention cross dressing cocks?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Bouwel on 01 November, 2009, 07:37:48 AM
Post by: Bouwel on 01 November, 2009, 07:37:48 AM
QuoteDid someone mention cross dressing cocks?
Mum!
-Bouwel-
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:04:18 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 07:32:19 AM
Did someone mention cross dressing cocks?
Crikey, she looks rough even when dressed as a bloke
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 01 November, 2009, 03:16:01 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 01 November, 2009, 03:16:01 PM
Glad I'm not the only one averse to the whole idea of having kids. I quite miss keeping chickens, though, apart from the rat infestation that they invariably bring.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
I frukking HATE 'sexy' halloween costumes *deep breath* ok rant over. For this year...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 01 November, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 01 November, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
I frukking HATE 'sexy' halloween costumes *deep breath* ok rant over. For this year...
In theory, and in principle, so do I.
But because I'm a bloke, and a bloke who's not getting any at that, I can never bring myself to object too strongly.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 November, 2009, 03:52:03 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 November, 2009, 03:52:03 PM
I saw loads of Batman, Catwoman, Superman, etc.. costumes as I was driving about last night. What's with that, they aren't Halloweeny. Well unless you make them zombiefied. It's just laziness!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 November, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
I frukking HATE 'sexy' halloween costumes *deep breath* ok rant over. For this year...
Male Ghostbusters costume: Female Ghostbusters costume:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
Those are VILE.
It isn't a costume anyway, it's a bloody set of overalls and a plastic backpack a la Rogue....
It isn't a costume anyway, it's a bloody set of overalls and a plastic backpack a la Rogue....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 01 November, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 01 November, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Those boots are highly impractical for hunting down ghosts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 01 November, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 01 November, 2009, 06:27:10 PM
Those boots are highly impractical for hunting down ghosts.
I'll bet that was her first thought too ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 November, 2009, 06:47:14 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 November, 2009, 06:47:14 PM
Not swearing on this board. Nothing upsets me more than seeing someone black out naughty words. Even worse is when people use "drokk" or "stomm" on here. Anyone who does this should be murdered. And don't get me started on people who say "frak". Refusing to use real swear words does not make you "civilized" or whatever, it just makes you a fucking douchebag.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 06:49:33 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 06:49:33 PM
Fuck you fuckface!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 01 November, 2009, 08:20:09 PM
Post by: HdE on 01 November, 2009, 08:20:09 PM
What the dickens!?!??! :o
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
Don't panic Hde, just yanking Roger's chain.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
I'm all in favour of keeping my swears on the QT, on account of new folks potentially being scared off or upsetting the sensibilities of others (to say nothing of the folks at Rebellion who pay the rent here, I'd rather not run the risk of upsetting the applecart). The gap between typing and clicking "post" usually results in most of my swears being removed. I wish I had that in real life sometimes....
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else how to conduct themselves though, as those who know me will attest, I swear like a docker in real life.
I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else how to conduct themselves though, as those who know me will attest, I swear like a docker in real life.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 November, 2009, 08:38:25 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 November, 2009, 08:38:25 PM
Fuck them, I say. Bunch of cunts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
Most of the swearing on this forum is usually for comedic effect. There's a post somewhere from Wake which sums things up, but I'm fucked if I can find it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
Oh I'm not averse to a spot of that. I intended to sign off that last post by saying "I swear like a fucking docker" but for some reason my internal censor kicked in. Too deeply ingrained.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2009, 09:04:22 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2009, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
There's a post somewhere from Wake which sums things up, but I'm fucked if I can find it.
That's fucking typical of you, you cunt ...
Arse!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 November, 2009, 09:11:27 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 November, 2009, 09:11:27 PM
Roger doesn't hate you CUNTS who don't FUCKING swear, he's just jealous of your website you douchebags ;)
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/ (http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/)
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/ (http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2009, 09:04:22 PMQuote from: Kerrin on 01 November, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
There's a post somewhere from Wake which sums things up, but I'm fucked if I can find it.
That's fucking typical of you, you cunt ...
Arse!
Jim
Oh, you have pierced me with your lance like wit.
Shitburglar.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
Gurning shitehawks and fartknockers the lot of you. Those of you who aren't cunts, that is.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 November, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
That feels better.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2009, 09:52:15 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 November, 2009, 09:52:15 PM
See? Swearing -- both big and clever. How long have I been saying this?
Cheers!
Jim
PS: Fuck off.
Cheers!
Jim
PS: Fuck off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 November, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 November, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
I can't see the appeal of swearing constantly and incessantly where every single adjective, adverb and intensifier used is foul but I do like a well placed bit of profanity.
And and I personally think children are brilliant. BRILLIANT. Endlessly fascinating they are. Not just as cute little babies or toddlers but even as they grow up and get bigger and stop being cute and start being people full of flaws and potential and love and humour and sadness and talent and creativity and, let me say it again, brilliance. (So far I've only seen from zero to twenty one so this may change).
And and I personally think children are brilliant. BRILLIANT. Endlessly fascinating they are. Not just as cute little babies or toddlers but even as they grow up and get bigger and stop being cute and start being people full of flaws and potential and love and humour and sadness and talent and creativity and, let me say it again, brilliance. (So far I've only seen from zero to twenty one so this may change).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 01 November, 2009, 10:36:03 PM
Post by: HdE on 01 November, 2009, 10:36:03 PM
Oh.... oh... oh...
FIDDLESTICKS!
FIDDLESTICKS!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 01 November, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 01 November, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
QuoteAnd and I personally think children are brilliant.
I've been avoided direct contribution to this debate (since I tend to agree that children are non-essential, but am completely obsessed with mine), but in support of Tips' rebuttal I submit the following:
This very wet morning, my chatty 3 year old was on the phone to his grandmother (who lives about 8 miles away). He peered out the window into the ongoing downpour and asked: "Is it raining on your planet, Nana?".
C'mon, where would you buy entertainment like that?
Addendum: As to swearing, the Boy has taken to shouting "Bloody!" in moments of stress or conflict, which I'm finding hugely amusing, while trying to appear stern. Somewhat less keen on the "eat your damn dinner!", which he came out with last week...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 November, 2009, 11:08:12 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 November, 2009, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 November, 2009, 10:41:58 PMQuoteAnd and I personally think children are brilliant.
I've been avoided direct contribution to this debate (since I tend to agree that children are non-essential, but am completely obsessed with mine), but in support of Tips' rebuttal I submit the following:
This very wet morning, my chatty 3 year old was on the phone to his grandmother (who lives about 8 miles away). He peered out the window into the ongoing downpour and asked: "Is it raining on your planet, Nana?".
C'mon, where would you buy entertainment like that?
Addendum: As to swearing, the Boy has taken to shouting "Bloody!" in moments of stress or conflict, which I'm finding hugely amusing, while trying to appear stern. Somewhat less keen on the "eat your damn dinner!", which he came out with last week...
There's a sale on at HMV at the moment and they might have My Hero DVD sets in. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PM
I swear when i am annoyed or irritated about something as it helps to get aggression out of my system but i dont like it dropped casually into conversation between words as was pointed out above .
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 01 November, 2009, 11:47:55 PM
Post by: Christov on 01 November, 2009, 11:47:55 PM
I keep my swearing on the internet down to a minimum to counterbalance the ridiculous amount of swearing I do out in the real world.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 02 November, 2009, 12:01:16 AM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 02 November, 2009, 12:01:16 AM
I think this is all getting out of hand so perhaps there should be a separate swearing thread for you bunch of cockers.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 12:16:48 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 12:16:48 AM
QuoteThere's a sale on at HMV at the moment and they might have My Hero DVD sets in.
Now that's foul language!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 12:58:44 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PM
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
Students reading The Guardian? That'll be the day! The day in question probably being a day in 1989...
::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 02 November, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
Post by: Christov on 02 November, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
*Is a student*
*Also reads The Guardian*
I think I may have time travelled a little bit.
*Also reads The Guardian*
I think I may have time travelled a little bit.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 01:03:46 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 01:03:46 AM
Quote from: Christov on 02 November, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
*Is a student*
*Also reads The Guardian*
I think I may have time travelled a little bit.
Shoo! Back to 1989 with you! Bloody time-tourists. ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 02 November, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 02 November, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
When I was a student I read either the Guardian, comics or the stuff I was supposed to be reading.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:35:12 AM
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:35:12 AM
I read the Guardian but I'm not a student. Damn, so near.
I don't understand the appeal of brown sauce. Ketchup is so much nicer.
I don't understand the appeal of brown sauce. Ketchup is so much nicer.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 02 November, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 02 November, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
I was asked by a very polite old lady in the cafe to pass the sauce the other day. Which I did. The Ketchup. Because it never occured to me that she would want the brown slop. This prompted the previously polite old lady to go on a tirade. Apparently, if she'd wanted Ketchup she'd have asked for it. She'd asked for sauce and expected sauce.
I was suitably humbled.
I was suitably humbled.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 02 November, 2009, 07:56:03 AM
Post by: Noisybast on 02 November, 2009, 07:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 01 November, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
And and I personally think children are brilliant. BRILLIANT. Endlessly fascinating they are. Not just as cute little babies or toddlers but even as they grow up and get bigger and stop being cute and start being people full of flaws and potential and love and humour and sadness and talent and creativity and, let me say it again, brilliance.
Steady on, Doctor Who...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: faplad on 02 November, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
I was asked by a very polite old lady in the cafe to pass the sauce the other day. Which I did. The Ketchup. Because it never occured to me that she would want the brown slop. This prompted the previously polite old lady to go on a tirade. Apparently, if she'd wanted Ketchup she'd have asked for it. She'd asked for sauce and expected sauce.
I was suitably humbled.
What a horrible old bag! It's not your fault she got it so badly wrong. It was simply a misunderstanding. That brown stuff is nasty. It's a bit ungracious of her to lose patience - you're not her servant after all. She should be more specific.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 November, 2009, 09:08:58 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 November, 2009, 09:08:58 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PMI've just read the Guardian (as I do most mornings) but, sadly, I haven't fucked a student since 2005.
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PMWhen I was a student I read the Guardian. I also indulged in student fucking. Guilty as charged m'lud.
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
I'm more of an indy man these days, although of a weekend with bugger all to do I have been known to read both.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 12:09:12 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 12:09:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
I'm more of an indy man these days, although of a weekend with bugger all to do I have been known to read both.
Decadent Western Libertine! As for swearing, I'm so fond of it I've been known to make Mr Gloady blush but I restrain myself on a public forum a) because I thought it was against the rules b) I don't want to look like a cunt
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 02 November, 2009, 12:45:11 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 02 November, 2009, 12:45:11 PM
QuoteAnd and I personally think children are brilliant. BRILLIANT. Endlessly fascinating they are. Not just as cute little babies or toddlers but even as they grow up and get bigger and stop being cute and start being people full of flaws and potential and love and humour and sadness and talent and creativity and, let me say it again, brilliance.
None of my own, but I work with children, and they can always do something to surprise me.
Particular favourites include:
1. The time I was stood at the front desk at work and turned round just in time to see one kid punch another right in the face. The teacher behind them went ballistic, to which the punching kid said "But I was only doing what Metal Sonic would do". I had to turn back to watching the desk so that they wouldn't see I found this pretty damned hilarious.
2. The time someone at work saw a kid playing with a toy Viking and commented on the way the kid was sending it whooshing through the air by saying, "Can your Viking fly?" to which the kid replied, "Of course he can fly, hes got a cape, duh!"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 12:51:14 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 12:51:14 PM
No, still don't get kids. My brother's lot excepted, which are huge fun - even more so the older they get, as I don't really care for babies.
However, just because *I* don't ever want any, I can totally appreciate other people enjoying theirs (particularly my late parents!). I'm very pleased nobody's had a go at me for confessing that, you'd be surprised the reactions I've had when saying this in person.
However, just because *I* don't ever want any, I can totally appreciate other people enjoying theirs (particularly my late parents!). I'm very pleased nobody's had a go at me for confessing that, you'd be surprised the reactions I've had when saying this in person.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 11:24:08 AMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2009, 11:38:34 PMWhen I was a student I read the Guardian. I also indulged in student fucking. Guilty as charged m'lud.
Most of all though there is a time and a place for it and sometimes its here so Fuck You you load of Guardian reading student fucking Cunts.
It was just something that i felt like saying even if it wasnt directed at or was or wasnt applicable to anyone here.
I dont read any of those papers myself as i havent got much time for mainstream media and i cant help but notice the scant media attention that the copenhagen Treaty is getting from the broadsheets.Its seems to be the alternative media that are covering this topic so all in all i dont see the appeal of broadsheets.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
I dont read any of those papers myself as i havent got much time for mainstream media and i cant help but notice the scant media attention that the copenhagen Treaty is getting from the broadsheets.
Maybe it's not getting much coverage in the broadsheets because it's boring?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 02 November, 2009, 02:16:16 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 02 November, 2009, 02:16:16 PM
THE GAME
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 02 November, 2009, 02:24:09 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 02 November, 2009, 02:24:09 PM
Bastard...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 03:01:33 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 03:01:33 PM
I didn't think you were directing anything at anyone Peter, don't worry.
It's a continual disappointment to me that the so called "quality press" (only so-named because they're of a higher quality than the Sun, Star, Telegraph, Mail etc) is continually dumbing down. Happily my fortnightly Private Eye helps me keep up with the more in-depth aspects of the news (and makes me laugh).
It's a continual disappointment to me that the so called "quality press" (only so-named because they're of a higher quality than the Sun, Star, Telegraph, Mail etc) is continually dumbing down. Happily my fortnightly Private Eye helps me keep up with the more in-depth aspects of the news (and makes me laugh).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
I've sent in a picture for the 'eye-spy' section, fingers crossed pop kids...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 03:22:45 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 03:22:45 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 01:43:00 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
I dont read any of those papers myself as i havent got much time for mainstream media and i cant help but notice the scant media attention that the copenhagen Treaty is getting from the broadsheets.
Maybe it's not getting much coverage in the broadsheets because it's boring?
Stupid comment.
What is boring to one is of great interest to another and i can guarantee to you that it is of great interest to me and to many many others as well but it depends if you have an interest in current affairs and creeping global governance.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 02 November, 2009, 03:47:48 PM
Post by: Mikey on 02 November, 2009, 03:47:48 PM
Quoteattention that the copenhagen Treaty is getting from the broadsheets
It's not a treaty yet Peter! ;)
QuoteMaybe it's not getting much coverage in the broadsheets because it's boring?
Heh! Could be...
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Grant Goggans on 02 November, 2009, 03:50:34 PM
Post by: Grant Goggans on 02 November, 2009, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 02 November, 2009, 02:16:16 PM
THE GAME
You mean the novel by Laurie R. King? I'm having a little trouble digging through that one as well...
You probably don't mean that, but it's what I'm reading.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 04:09:23 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 03:22:45 PMWhat is boring to one is of great interest to another and i can guarantee to you that it is of great interest to me and to many many others as well but it depends if you have an interest in current affairs and creeping global governance.
Unless you start assassinating global leaders and explain it's because they are messing everything up. well you might as well just ignore all that stuff Peter.
By the way this is how I would take out our current and past MP when they travel from number 10.
I would have a couple of expendable brainwashed goons wait outside the gates with explosive charges in 35 litre days sacks and when the MP comes out they throw them at the car.
I would also have a goon with a papoose on his front with a fake baby in it with an animatronic life like face, packed with about 30 lbs of explosive. Once the two daysacks have stopped the armoured limo and caused considerable damage this person will cover the door that the MP is sat next to and detonate their explosives.
I would be in one of the rooms in the building on the corner of Whitehall and Richmond Terrace with my 82A1 Barrett rifle and be waiting for my shot.
As you can see, I have thought about this a few times.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Banners on 02 November, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
Post by: Banners on 02 November, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
Reported (to MI5).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 04:23:51 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 12:51:14 PMI very pleased nobody's had a go at me for confessing that, you'd be surprised the reactions I've had when saying this in person.
Yeah, you selfish cunt. You should fall down and worship (worship!) me because I have (or rather my wife has) had at least two confirmed shags, and now expect you to fund the resultant spawn as they consume the Earth's resources at an accelerating rate and raise the decibel level on public transport and in cinemas. You are plainly inferior to fecund ol' me and my growing brood, and thus your needs are subordinate to ours. Deal with it, you slave to contraceptive industry propaganda.
Unless you're looking after someone else's, or acquired them entirely by accident, having kids in this 21st century is a hugely self-indulgent pastime, an all-consuming (if very rewarding) hobby that saps your resources and options in equal measure. I wanted to have kids, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the two I have, but it was an entirely selfish decision that closed a lot of doors that I may (or may not) have otherwise opened. It annoys me that people (not in the circumstances outlined above) seem to think that having kids affords them some sort of special status, when really it's not a lot different to dedicating yourself to some other crazy self-indulgent scheme involving long difficult hours for decades at a strtch, like walking betwen both poles, building backyard-to-orbit rockets or somesuch.
It's great fun, but I can't see why anyone would imagine that it's right for everyone.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:21:24 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 04:09:23 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 03:22:45 PMWhat is boring to one is of great interest to another and i can guarantee to you that it is of great interest to me and to many many others as well but it depends if you have an interest in current affairs and creeping global governance.
Unless you start assassinating global leaders and explain it's because they are messing everything up. well you might as well just ignore all that stuff Peter.
By the way this is how I would take out our current and past MP when they travel from number 10.
I would have a couple of expendable brainwashed goons wait outside the gates with explosive charges in 35 litre days sacks and when the MP comes out they throw them at the car.
I would also have a goon with a papoose on his front with a fake baby in it with an animatronic life like face, packed with about 30 lbs of explosive. Once the two daysacks have stopped the armoured limo and caused considerable damage this person will cover the door that the MP is sat next to and detonate their explosives.
I would be in one of the rooms in the building on the corner of Whitehall and Richmond Terrace with my 82A1 Barrett rifle and be waiting for my shot.
As you can see, I have thought about this a few times.
In all seriousness you shouldnt post things like that online.Not in this political climate because you can end up on a watchlist or a no fly list.
Anyway whacking some poodles or NWO/UN/Bankster sockpuppets isnt going to change anything because its more productive to spread information online that changes minds about them and who they work for like Build-A-Burger.
Going back to what you were saying though : Before Blair was elected he lived in a square in Barnsbury which is part of Islington.This square is directly behind the Caledonian Road and i used to visit a friend who lived in the same square at the same time and a few times i did see Blair going in and out a few times and i actually walked past him once which feels a bit like walking past Hitler or someone like that and you find yourself thinking What If ? but in reality it doesnt work like that because if it wasnt Blair who is responsible for this that and the other it would be another just like him and anyway there is because we have David "Change" Cameron to look forward to !
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:22:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:22:36 PM
Or dread, depending on your outloock.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:23:45 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:23:45 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:22:36 PM
Or dread, depending on your outloock.
Dont worry it was sarcasm.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Oh thank FUCK!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
...peas. Never have liked peas.
But I like sprouts. Go figure.
But I like sprouts. Go figure.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 07:30:25 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
...peas. Never have liked peas.
But I like sprouts. Go figure.
How about cabbage?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:33:54 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:33:54 PM
Nah. In general I'm not keen on cabbage BUT I do like Swedish style red cabbage with apple and honey, normally have it with Christmas dinner, dee-lish.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
PEAS, SPRARHTS AN' CABBIDGE! PEAS, SPRAHRTS AN' CABBIDGE!
No, can't be bothered with the rest of that song. But I like all three.
No, can't be bothered with the rest of that song. But I like all three.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 November, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Oh thank FUCK!
Dont worry i grew out of the fake two party system - political merry go round years ago.
Thats enough though as i dont do politics on this forum no more apart from the odd comment.
I hate Peas and sprouts but i luuurve Cabbage as long as its not overcooked soggy stinky stuff.I prefer it raw in a tasty vinagarette or fried like a Rosti and you can actually make Rissoles out of cabbage and fry it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 07:40:33 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:21:24 PM
In all seriousness you shouldnt post things like that online.Not in this political climate because you can end up on a watchlist or a no fly list.
If only this government could actually do this. I won't go into the list of people they should be watching but can't because of manpower. I am safe until the end of time. Come and get me Br
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 07:43:58 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 07:43:58 PM
You know sprouts are cabbages, yeah? See also: broccoli and cauliflower. All the same species (Brassica somethingorother), just different waddayacallit cultivars.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 November, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
True but it's funny how many people like one (cauliflour for example) and loath another (usually sprouts)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 November, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 November, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 07:43:58 PMI hate them all. I can just about take sauerkraut with my Bratwurst but that's the limit.
You know sprouts are cabbages, yeah? See also: broccoli and cauliflower. All the same species (Brassica somethingorother), just different waddayacallit cultivars.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 08:15:32 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 November, 2009, 07:40:33 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2009, 07:21:24 PM
In all seriousness you shouldnt post things like that online.Not in this political climate because you can end up on a watchlist or a no fly list.
If only this government could actually do this. I won't go into the list of people they should be watching but can't because of manpower. I am safe until the end of time. Come and get me Br
Its true what you say and it was just a bit of advice and nothing to do with living in fear.I might be on lists already.I really dont know and i dont care either because that bunch of pussies are not going to stop me saying what i say as and when i want to.
This the good thing about organisations that are disorganised and under-resourced and understaffed.The whole thing is so open to abuse from feeding them misinformation and bullshit that is supplied to them anonymously of course.
Perhaps they should be on their own lists ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 02 November, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
I can just about take sauerkraut with my Bratwurst but that's the limit.
More prison talk, Cosh? For shame.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 02 November, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 02 November, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
I'm a twat when it comes to Veggies, peas, spuds and carrots(occasionaly). Can't stand most of them and a salad is right out.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 02 November, 2009, 09:17:49 PM
Post by: Christov on 02 November, 2009, 09:17:49 PM
Bah! Vegetable philistines!
I am slightly biased in this respect however, seeing how I'm practically vegetarian due to a general disliking of meat.
I am slightly biased in this respect however, seeing how I'm practically vegetarian due to a general disliking of meat.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 02 November, 2009, 09:36:07 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 02 November, 2009, 09:36:07 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 02 November, 2009, 07:33:54 PM
Nah. In general I'm not keen on cabbage BUT I do like Swedish style red cabbage with apple and honey, normally have it with Christmas dinner, dee-lish.
Doesn't like peas.
Fair enough.
Likes sprouts.
Unusual, but reasonable.
Doesn't like cabbage - UNLESS IT'S SERVED WITH APPLE AND HONEY.
?!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 November, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
I like vegetables. I will eat any of them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:31:03 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:31:03 AM
I like vegetables as they compliment the dead animal on my plate.
As for salads, WHY, the good lord provided us with all these tasty animals to eat so lets all get stuck in ;)
As for salads, WHY, the good lord provided us with all these tasty animals to eat so lets all get stuck in ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 03 November, 2009, 10:17:46 AM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 03 November, 2009, 10:17:46 AM
Sprouts or cabbage with olive oil and lemon. Yum.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: moly on 03 November, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
Post by: moly on 03 November, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
dislike people asking why i dont eat meat --- it was ok for the first 5 years but gets a bit boring explaing why 20 years later i dont ask them why they they eat meat the nosy bastards
children --- i know someone needs to have so we can continue to destroy the planet but not for me thanks
fundamentalists people who want to kill people just because they think differantly
pretty boys --- why be a man dont wear make up/skinny jeans/and loving themselves more than the person there with --tossers
children --- i know someone needs to have so we can continue to destroy the planet but not for me thanks
fundamentalists people who want to kill people just because they think differantly
pretty boys --- why be a man dont wear make up/skinny jeans/and loving themselves more than the person there with --tossers
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 10:26:02 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 10:26:02 AM
Offal. Why?
I'm sorry but meat/flesh sets my taste buds alight. I will not touch liver, tongue, heart, kidney, etc...
I feel sick just thinking about all that gunk!
(I sometimes wonder how I survived in the forces, especially on survival exercises. Then again I can go without food for quite a while)
I'm sorry but meat/flesh sets my taste buds alight. I will not touch liver, tongue, heart, kidney, etc...
I feel sick just thinking about all that gunk!
(I sometimes wonder how I survived in the forces, especially on survival exercises. Then again I can go without food for quite a while)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 11:30:01 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 11:30:01 AM
Liver - yuck, but pate? Mmmmmmmm
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 03 November, 2009, 12:05:13 PM
Post by: Mikey on 03 November, 2009, 12:05:13 PM
I don't mind a bit of steak and kidney and I would eat pate - so I'm an offal eater I suppose.
Sprouts and the rest of the Brassica clan are da biz! Especially with vinegar and black pepper...
An easy shot I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Jedward. Mrs Mikey said that even when she was 10 she would have found them repulsive. They are truly wee pukes of the highest order.
M.
Sprouts and the rest of the Brassica clan are da biz! Especially with vinegar and black pepper...
An easy shot I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Jedward. Mrs Mikey said that even when she was 10 she would have found them repulsive. They are truly wee pukes of the highest order.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
I detest all that X (I will control the world Simon Cowell) Factor dross and don't watch it. Sadly you can't escape from it due to the non stop media coverage but it makes me happy to know that the British public don't mind wasting their money on voting on these two goons, just to piss off the judges ;D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 12:53:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 12:53:23 PM
I interrogated my 11 year old neice over her decision to vote Jedward each and every week on x-factor (actually hastling her mum and dad to vote). After 3 minutes of bright lights and such she capitulated and came clean - they're stupid and funny. That's it I think.
No idea why they GOT this far, they should have been ditched at the first audition, but hurray! So glad the core audience of X=Factor have the same cruel and childish attitude to the whole thing as I do.
No idea why they GOT this far, they should have been ditched at the first audition, but hurray! So glad the core audience of X=Factor have the same cruel and childish attitude to the whole thing as I do.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:15:07 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:15:07 PM
What is this 'Jedward'? I don't watch X Factor on account of having at least 2 operational brain cells - explain it to me in words of 2 syllables or more
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 01:23:04 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 01:23:04 PM
Kate,
I have two operational braincells (I think, duh) and I know because I love watching morons make twats of themselves in public. Their two Vanila-Ice-haired Irish twins with almost no redeeming features who can't fucking sing. It's as simple as that. For some reason they're in the later stages of a talent show despite having no talent. I'm sure this is because they are entertaining for all the wrong reasons. Look for John & Edward from x-factor on youtube. You will be agog. They're AWFUL.
It's all very funny.
As for the vegetarianism, I'm not one myself but I wouldn't dream of asking someone WHY they didn't eat meat. None of my business. So long as someone's eating a varied diet that meets their nutritional needs, who cares where the hell it comes from? If your religion, disposition or political beliefs mean you don't want to eat meat, fair enough.
I have two operational braincells (I think, duh) and I know because I love watching morons make twats of themselves in public. Their two Vanila-Ice-haired Irish twins with almost no redeeming features who can't fucking sing. It's as simple as that. For some reason they're in the later stages of a talent show despite having no talent. I'm sure this is because they are entertaining for all the wrong reasons. Look for John & Edward from x-factor on youtube. You will be agog. They're AWFUL.
It's all very funny.
Quote from: moly on 03 November, 2009, 10:23:53 AMYeah, agreed. Don't understand why these blokes are so common at all. Most women I know find it rather laughable too.
pretty boys --- why be a man dont wear make up/skinny jeans/and loving themselves more than the person there with --tossers
As for the vegetarianism, I'm not one myself but I wouldn't dream of asking someone WHY they didn't eat meat. None of my business. So long as someone's eating a varied diet that meets their nutritional needs, who cares where the hell it comes from? If your religion, disposition or political beliefs mean you don't want to eat meat, fair enough.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:26:10 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:26:10 PM
Mike, I wasn't suggesting you were a brainless idiot
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
I know that dear.
Go and look for them on youtube, they'll make your heart sing and remind you of just how WONDERFUL you are (being that much higher up on the evolutionary scale than these jellyfishes).
Go and look for them on youtube, they'll make your heart sing and remind you of just how WONDERFUL you are (being that much higher up on the evolutionary scale than these jellyfishes).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Well, if you put it like that ;D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 02:51:16 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 02:51:16 PM
I don't mind the existence of X-factor/pop idol/strictly etc, because that would be churlish - It's easy enough to just not watch a telly programme you don't like, and some people obviously do like these sort of shows.
But it really does piss me off when I open a serious broadsheet newspaper and find this crap reported as if it's NEWS or that it actually MATTERS at all!
Private Eye did a good spoof news-story about Cheryl Cole along the lines of "POP SINGER SINGS SONG: The nation was transfixed as a pop singer famous for singing pop songs sang a pop song on televison...." etc
But it really does piss me off when I open a serious broadsheet newspaper and find this crap reported as if it's NEWS or that it actually MATTERS at all!
Private Eye did a good spoof news-story about Cheryl Cole along the lines of "POP SINGER SINGS SONG: The nation was transfixed as a pop singer famous for singing pop songs sang a pop song on televison...." etc
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2009, 03:56:17 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2009, 03:56:17 PM
QuoteI will not touch liver, tongue, heart...
You're a structuralist anthropologist's dream, CF! Some parts of the burnt dead animal carcass are for drooling longingly over, others are too disgusting to contemplate. The edible : inedible opposition maps to... discretely identifiable organs : anonymous muscle tissue / Naturalistic : Abstract / Wild : Domestic / Butchery : Cooking / Waste : Produce / Poor : Rich / Past : Present.
Intriguing stuff!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 03:57:34 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 03:57:34 PM
Yeah, the whole concept of telly being news (other than racist moron outed on QT, obviously) is entirely beyond me. I expect it of rags like the Star, Sun etc, but not of the so-called quality press.
There used to just be a PAGE of this crap, called TV page and another page of gossip called gossip. Neither are fucking news.
TordelBack, please never mention structuralism here ever again. I have a sensitive gag reflex.....
There used to just be a PAGE of this crap, called TV page and another page of gossip called gossip. Neither are fucking news.
TordelBack, please never mention structuralism here ever again. I have a sensitive gag reflex.....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 04:12:24 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 04:12:24 PM
Jesus pole-vaulting christ! I've been rendered speechless by this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjYKHTbDzvg
Have they actually heard the song before? They can't carry a tune in a bucket, maybe it's some new form of avant-garde tune avoidance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjYKHTbDzvg
Have they actually heard the song before? They can't carry a tune in a bucket, maybe it's some new form of avant-garde tune avoidance!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 04:17:23 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 04:17:23 PM
WARNING
The above post shows something off the X Factor. I managed to stop the link once that X came flying towards me :-[
The above post shows something off the X Factor. I managed to stop the link once that X came flying towards me :-[
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 04:22:09 PM
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 04:22:09 PM
I love vegetables of all descriptions and eat a lot of them, but I despise fruit - have ever since I was young. I don't know why, but a lot of fruit just makes me feel sick - it's something about the stickiness/mushy texture. If someone sitting next to me starts eating a piece of fruit, especially in a confined space, I get pretty angry - I find the smell really quite offensive.
What's weird is that I will eat fruit if it's in a dessert, smoothie or cereal, and I can eat dried fruit or fruit flavoured things, it just seems to be fruit in it's original, raw form. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Maybe I had some sort of traumatic fruit-based experience as a young child? How I've managed to avoid scurvy is anyone's guess.
What's weird is that I will eat fruit if it's in a dessert, smoothie or cereal, and I can eat dried fruit or fruit flavoured things, it just seems to be fruit in it's original, raw form. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Maybe I had some sort of traumatic fruit-based experience as a young child? How I've managed to avoid scurvy is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 04:25:56 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 04:25:56 PM
You probably survived with eating Fruit Pastels and Opal Fruits ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 04:33:12 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 04:33:12 PM
Using text speak when you're typing a message ON A COMPUTER; it's unforgivable on a phone as even the cheapest have T9 or predictive text, but when you're posting on a chum's Facebook wall? Vomit! I know of people who have A-levels in English who do this - please stop you look like a total arse
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
Yeah, accidental spelling or typing errors are totally fine, as are gaps in your knowledge about how to use a colon or whatever. Deliberate errors are just the sign of the moron. I hate it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 04:22:09 PM
I love vegetables of all descriptions and eat a lot of them, but I despise fruit - have ever since I was young. I don't know why, but a lot of fruit just makes me feel sick - it's something about the stickiness/mushy texture. If someone sitting next to me starts eating a piece of fruit, especially in a confined space, I get pretty angry - I find the smell really quite offensive.
What's weird is that I will eat fruit if it's in a dessert, smoothie or cereal, and I can eat dried fruit or fruit flavoured things, it just seems to be fruit in it's original, raw form. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Maybe I had some sort of traumatic fruit-based experience as a young child? How I've managed to avoid scurvy is anyone's guess.
Thats curious because i have the exact same thing with eggs.I dont mind egg if its in quiche or in cakes or anything else and i am happy to cook with eggs but i hate egg on its own especially fried or hardboiled.I just cant stand looking at it let alone watching someone else eat it.
EEuurrgghh.No thanks.
Cauliflower is something else i cant stand the thought of eating.Just the colour and the texture and everything about it and i am none too keen on broccoli either.Also beans as well especially baked beans but i dont mind mashing up beans to make beanburgers like Aduki beans if i am on a Vegan trip which happens fairly often before the craving for red meat comes back .Cucumber is another.I hate the look and taste of it and the taste overpowers everything it is with.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
I really try not to be a pedant, language is constantly evolving blah blah blah - and teenagers communicate in text speak - that's fine, teenagers have always used slang. In excess, yeah it's pretty laughable, as seen here: http://www.lamebook.com/typomg (http://www.lamebook.com/typomg) but otherwise harmless, yeah?
But I DO get a bit annoyed when people I know - proper grown up, intelligent people in - pepper all their online exchanges with LOL!!!! Seriously, people - IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE a) A SIMPLETON or b) 12 YEARS OLD.
But I DO get a bit annoyed when people I know - proper grown up, intelligent people in - pepper all their online exchanges with LOL!!!! Seriously, people - IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE a) A SIMPLETON or b) 12 YEARS OLD.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 05:43:14 PM
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 05:43:14 PM
I think text speak in a text message is perfectly acceptable, it saves on texts ie money. I don't use alot of it to be honest, but will use things like "u" and "tmrw" and "msg" etc etc in a text and never use predictive text because it annoys the hell out of me. There is a reason this sort of use of language developed and it's quite a good reason. However, I hate the use of it in emails, facebook, forums etc. It is inappropriate and annoying. In texts however, totally fine.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 03 November, 2009, 06:14:25 PM
Post by: Christov on 03 November, 2009, 06:14:25 PM
Predictive text is the devil. Try and text someone 'I'll be home soon' and it turns into 'Illusion beard hombre succumbed'.
I think it has been purposely designed to make people appear to be either gibbering idiots or mentally unsound.
I think it has been purposely designed to make people appear to be either gibbering idiots or mentally unsound.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JamesC on 03 November, 2009, 06:22:37 PM
Post by: JamesC on 03 November, 2009, 06:22:37 PM
Bisexuality as a lifestyle choice.
Some people are genuinely bisexual - good luck to them. Some people however, and I'm talking from personal experience here, are bisexual by choice - which is to say not actually bisexual but pretending to be as a shortcut to actually having a fucking personality.
I ran into quite a bit of this as a student and more since. I have known both males and females to get into this bizarre behaviour - it seems that they equate being bisexual with being intrinsically more open minded and artistic.
I never saw any of these people do more than kiss a member of the same sex while drunk in a nightclub (more for spectacle than anything else) and yet many of them had partners of the opposite sex. Of course you could never discuss or even mention this behaviour to them without fear of being demonised as some kind of narrow minded bigot.
The thing is it's up to them what they do and I don't really give a shit it's just that it implies that those of us who are hetrosexual are less open-minded and artistic and furthermore that our sexuality controls such things.
It's an implication that really winds me up!
And now Russel T Davies is perpetuating it in bloody Doctor Who - 'Hi I'm from the future where everybody is more open minded and therefore bisexual.' SINCE WHEN WERE THE TWO THINGS RELATED?
Some people are genuinely bisexual - good luck to them. Some people however, and I'm talking from personal experience here, are bisexual by choice - which is to say not actually bisexual but pretending to be as a shortcut to actually having a fucking personality.
I ran into quite a bit of this as a student and more since. I have known both males and females to get into this bizarre behaviour - it seems that they equate being bisexual with being intrinsically more open minded and artistic.
I never saw any of these people do more than kiss a member of the same sex while drunk in a nightclub (more for spectacle than anything else) and yet many of them had partners of the opposite sex. Of course you could never discuss or even mention this behaviour to them without fear of being demonised as some kind of narrow minded bigot.
The thing is it's up to them what they do and I don't really give a shit it's just that it implies that those of us who are hetrosexual are less open-minded and artistic and furthermore that our sexuality controls such things.
It's an implication that really winds me up!
And now Russel T Davies is perpetuating it in bloody Doctor Who - 'Hi I'm from the future where everybody is more open minded and therefore bisexual.' SINCE WHEN WERE THE TWO THINGS RELATED?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Banners on 03 November, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: Banners on 03 November, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
I once got a text message from a girl saying she was "thinking about last night together and feeling very sorry". I like to think that predictive text was to blame for that one.
M@
M@
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
The first time I had a text with 'lol' in it was from a mate and all I could think was, why did he put 'lots of love' at the end. I know he isn't bisexual (then again) and then I found out what it meant. Still don't know what half of these bloody things mean ::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
A friend on another forum told me about his mum getting into texting and thought the same thing CF, she sent him a text saying, "sorry to tell you the dog has died, lol mum x" It is so, so wrong how funny I found this!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 07:04:52 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 07:04:52 PM
Re pretending to be Bi - I think alot of teenagers fall into this because they imagine it'll make them look racy and imply that they're a bit crazy in the sack to the opposite sex. Unfortunately many also say they're bi because they either can't or won't admit that they're genuinely gay, either because of peer pressure or fear they're 'letting somebody down' (ie mummy and daddy) - a pretty horrible situation to be in.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 07:08:09 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 07:08:09 PM
I neither know nor care what people mean by these idiotic character strings. I'm THIRTYFIVE YEARS OLD. I have no interest in learning the intricacies of teenage idiot speak. If you want to talk with the grown ups, learn how to effing speak.
I once attempted to bail out on a date because I got a confirmation message that she was five minutes away that read "5minz away. lukin 4ward 2 Cin U. LOLZ" I stayed the bear minimum of time allowed and then ran. I could tell from the text she was going to annoy the piss out of me.
I once attempted to bail out on a date because I got a confirmation message that she was five minutes away that read "5minz away. lukin 4ward 2 Cin U. LOLZ" I stayed the bear minimum of time allowed and then ran. I could tell from the text she was going to annoy the piss out of me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 03 November, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
Post by: Christov on 03 November, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
Saying you're bisexual = instant interesting character trait.
So yes, vapid teenagers do tend to say it a lot and not mean it.
So yes, vapid teenagers do tend to say it a lot and not mean it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 07:19:37 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 03 November, 2009, 06:22:37 PM
Bisexuality as a lifestyle choice.
my first true love (unrequited as it turned out) messed me about for ages while shagging other people, then 'became a lesbian' for a couple of years, before deciding she was straight after all and marrying a vicar!
Messed me up totally at the time, but in hindsight I think I had a lucky escape!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2009, 07:20:44 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 03 November, 2009, 07:20:44 PM
As a deeply boring heterosexual (seriously, have you seen men - a right bloody turn-off if you ask me, and that's with their clothes on), I am a little puzzled by JamesC's (very entertaining) post. I only know one demonstrably bi man and one similarly genuinely bi woman (hey, maybe I should introduce them!), but I did know a fair few folk that messed about with all sorts when they were in their late teens and early 20's - a lot of it seemed like genuine experimentation rather than affectation, but then a lot of the hetero canoodling that was going on seemed to be just as exploratory and insincere. The ones I still know 15 years on are all either avowedly straight or gay. I just don't know any attention-seeking faux-bisexuals. Maybe I should get out more.
Anyway, I'm off to muse on Thirteen from House for inspiration (that's the opposite of shunning, BTW, and yet strangely similar).
Anyway, I'm off to muse on Thirteen from House for inspiration (that's the opposite of shunning, BTW, and yet strangely similar).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
It didn't start as teenage speak though, it's a form of commucation to get the most amount of words in a limited about of space to save you money, it is just a form of communication. That the youngers have picked up on it as a form of speech and use it inappropriately is very annoying and not what the point was or is. I think Mike that judging a person because of a *text* written in *text* speak is way harsh and judgmental.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
The girls at my school (Dyke House Comprehensive, look it up) all spoke in that back slang gobbledygook. They spoke so fast I couldn't bloody understand them, I suppose because we didn't have mobiles that was their 'text speak'.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 07:40:38 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2009, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
The girls at my school (Dyke House Comprehensive, ...
I thought you were responding to the bisxual topic for a moment there!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
I never knew what it meant until I left school. Still no-one else took the piss out of the name so nobody else did either at the time.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 07:55:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 07:55:45 PM
I've given up being anything else, life is short and we all make snap judgements.
I know myself very well and I know what I can cope with and what I can't. Someone mindlessly typing "lol" when there's clearly no laughter involved is a sign of a weak mind, not for me. Abandon ship at earliest possible opportunity so I'm not messing anyone about. I'd rather be honest than pretend or drag the whole thing out.
I know myself very well and I know what I can cope with and what I can't. Someone mindlessly typing "lol" when there's clearly no laughter involved is a sign of a weak mind, not for me. Abandon ship at earliest possible opportunity so I'm not messing anyone about. I'd rather be honest than pretend or drag the whole thing out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 08:04:33 PM
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 08:04:33 PM
Fair enough mate, I just find that as I make my way through my 30's I get mellower and less judgemental - I am shocked to realise how very judgemental I was when I was younger, and I'm grateful for being able to be more laid back about little things now. But each to their own and all that bonny lad.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
Ah, I was the other way round. A youth full of being an easy going, optimistic sod meant I was prepared to put up with anything from women. Maybe a little too far the other way these days but seeing as I have the perfect woman already who's consistently failed to disappoint and is generally wonderful, none of that old malarky matters anymore. She's certainly never been victim to my snap judgements.
*sound of entire board being sick*
*sound of entire board being sick*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
That's all wrong Stacey, the older you get the more right wing you get. Look at all those Nazi's in old peoples homes constantly bemoaning the world.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:14:01 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:14:01 PM
And that one in Father Ted. I bet he was a lovely young man!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
Ah, I was the other way round. A youth full of being an easy going, optimistic sod meant I was prepared to put up with anything from women. Maybe a little too far the other way these days but seeing as I have the perfect woman already who's consistently failed to disappoint and is generally wonderful, none of that old malarky matters anymore. She's certainly never been victim to my snap judgements.
*sound of entire board being sick*
*playfully biffs him on the arm* We said we wouldn't make them sick!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 03 November, 2009, 08:28:11 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 03 November, 2009, 08:28:11 PM
The only thing that pisses me off about predictive text is the fact that "pint" is the third option after "shot" and "riot." It gets even worse if you decide to ask a mate if he wants to go for more than one of these "pints", as "pious" then jumps into the mix.
Anybody who never did anything to try and draw attention to themselves or appear more interesting to the opposite sex while a teenager or student was speedgrown in a vat and only released into the wild at the age of 25 wearing slacks and a polo shirt.
Anybody who never did anything to try and draw attention to themselves or appear more interesting to the opposite sex while a teenager or student was speedgrown in a vat and only released into the wild at the age of 25 wearing slacks and a polo shirt.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
Trying to type 'icy' in predictive texts spells out 'gay' instead, which can be a bit of a hazard.
As in:
"Don't fancy going out tonight, it's a bit icy out there".
As in:
"Don't fancy going out tonight, it's a bit icy out there".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 03 November, 2009, 08:40:48 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 03 November, 2009, 08:40:48 PM
QuoteYou're a structuralist anthropologist's dream, CF! Some parts of the burnt dead animal carcass are for drooling longingly over, others are too disgusting to contemplate. The edible : inedible opposition maps to... discretely identifiable organs : anonymous muscle tissue / Naturalistic : Abstract / Wild : Domestic / Butchery : Cooking / Waste : Produce / Poor : Rich / Past : Present.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_en_ot/eu_obit_france_levi_strauss
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 08:41:01 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 03 November, 2009, 08:28:11 PM
The only thing that pisses me off about predictive text is the fact that "pint" is the third option after "shot" and "riot." It gets even worse if you decide to ask a mate if he wants to go for more than one of these "pints", as "pious" then jumps into the mix.
My iPhone has thankfully made predictive texting a thing of the past, particularly because my previous phone prioritised "nun" over "mum" and "wolf" over "woke" ...
Seriously? Who the fuck thought more people would send messages about nuns getting eaten by wolves than getting woken up by their mum?
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:43:06 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 08:43:06 PM
Hey!
SOME of us have a lot of need for that handy NUN shortcut. Don't ruin my fun....
SOME of us have a lot of need for that handy NUN shortcut. Don't ruin my fun....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Post by: stacey on 03 November, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
That's all wrong Stacey, the older you get the more right wing you get. Look at all those Nazi's in old peoples homes constantly bemoaning the world.
Sorry to let you down CF, I'll be over there chilling in the corner! :-)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
WTF is this predictive text ?
I dont usually send texts and i dont use this facility and i havent come across it and i dont know anything about it but it sounds like bullshit and a clear example of technology that is pointless.
Just who is so lazy that they need to have their choice of words predicted on the offchance that they might not have to type it in themselves so they have a facility that attempts to second guess what they are about to type in and prioritise words ?
Fucking unbelievable.
So no i dont use predictive text and never have done but from what i have read here it doesnt appeal and i dont want that kind of shit in my life.
Offal doesnt appeal either and in actuality it makes me feel ill just thinking about eating it.I eat meat with a preference for red meat but i only eat the choice cuts and i wouldnt eat offal even if i was starving.I always remember Liver and Bacon being served up as a school dinner which i always declined because there was no way i was going to eat that foul obnoxious filth.
AS a related issue to the discussion about bisexuality and teenagers finding themselves what is it with these EMO kids that a keep coming across that have adopted an affectation of acting and talking in a camp way ?
Is it the in thing to pretend you are gay by adopting cliched stereotyped affectations like that stupid way of talking and mincing around ?
Pathetic.
I dont usually send texts and i dont use this facility and i havent come across it and i dont know anything about it but it sounds like bullshit and a clear example of technology that is pointless.
Just who is so lazy that they need to have their choice of words predicted on the offchance that they might not have to type it in themselves so they have a facility that attempts to second guess what they are about to type in and prioritise words ?
Fucking unbelievable.
So no i dont use predictive text and never have done but from what i have read here it doesnt appeal and i dont want that kind of shit in my life.
Offal doesnt appeal either and in actuality it makes me feel ill just thinking about eating it.I eat meat with a preference for red meat but i only eat the choice cuts and i wouldnt eat offal even if i was starving.I always remember Liver and Bacon being served up as a school dinner which i always declined because there was no way i was going to eat that foul obnoxious filth.
AS a related issue to the discussion about bisexuality and teenagers finding themselves what is it with these EMO kids that a keep coming across that have adopted an affectation of acting and talking in a camp way ?
Is it the in thing to pretend you are gay by adopting cliched stereotyped affectations like that stupid way of talking and mincing around ?
Pathetic.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 03 November, 2009, 09:27:50 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 03 November, 2009, 09:27:50 PM
I have never understood people who are obsessed with a particular band or artist.
While there are songs I like, I've never found a group that produced nothing but quality music. In my opinion, most bands only have one REALLY good song, the rest is just mediocre at best.
And I have to say, about 95% of song lyrics are complete nonsense. Trying to read deep meaning into a load of word salad the singer thought up, while he was having his curry, is pointless and silly.
But that's just my opinion. I'm right though.
While there are songs I like, I've never found a group that produced nothing but quality music. In my opinion, most bands only have one REALLY good song, the rest is just mediocre at best.
And I have to say, about 95% of song lyrics are complete nonsense. Trying to read deep meaning into a load of word salad the singer thought up, while he was having his curry, is pointless and silly.
But that's just my opinion. I'm right though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
Don't be a dick, Peter. Given that there are only nine keys with letters assigned to them and twenty-six letters in the alphabet, several words may be denoted by the same number keys. All predictive text messaging does is present the most likely option first and (in most cases) allows you to cycle through the alternative options, usually with the * key.
This is an intelligent and logical development of the technology, hampered only by the fact that not everyone will agree what the most obvious first choice should be. It's hardly an assault on literacy.
Cheers
Jim
This is an intelligent and logical development of the technology, hampered only by the fact that not everyone will agree what the most obvious first choice should be. It's hardly an assault on literacy.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 03 November, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 03 November, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Mobile phones are a pain in general. I only have one because I need one for work. It means the missus can contact me where and whenever.
Also if you have a phone bloody answer it, what's the point of having one if you don't answer it. GAAAAAAAH
V
Also if you have a phone bloody answer it, what's the point of having one if you don't answer it. GAAAAAAAH
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 09:38:08 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 09:38:08 PM
My mum would often leave her mobile at home/by her bed/in the kitchen/at my btother's house. It was rarely the easiest way to contact her. I often tried to have that conversation with her, to little avail. She got better with time, but still..... ARRRRRGGGH!
Having said that, when it really mattered she always had it on her so she could reach my brother or I. So hurray.
Having said that, when it really mattered she always had it on her so she could reach my brother or I. So hurray.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 09:41:33 PM
Post by: radiator on 03 November, 2009, 09:41:33 PM
Most old people I know keep their mobile switched off most of the time 'to save the battery'.
Bless 'em.
Bless 'em.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 09:45:11 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 November, 2009, 09:45:11 PM
Quite.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
Don't be a dick, Peter. Given that there are only nine keys with letters assigned to them and twenty-six letters in the alphabet, several words may be denoted by the same number keys. All predictive text messaging does is present the most likely option first and (in most cases) allows you to cycle through the alternative options, usually with the * key.
This is an intelligent and logical development of the technology, hampered only by the fact that not everyone will agree what the most obvious first choice should be. It's hardly an assault on literacy.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 03 November, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Post by: HdE on 03 November, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: Christov on 03 November, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
Saying you're bisexual = instant interesting character trait.
So yes, vapid teenagers do tend to say it a lot and not mean it.
Not that I'm a bigoted monster, but... NAILED!
My most recent ex dropped the clanger on me one day that she had once been 'interested' in other women. It was early in our relationship, and we were still really just getting to know each other
I very calmly explained to her that I took a dim view of that. If it was what she wanted, that was fine. I just didn't (and don't) want to be in a relationship with somebody who has any question mark over their sexuality.
This sparked a bit of heated debate (with her ranting and raving at me for being a 'bigoted monster' and me remaining calm throughout). I stuck to my guns and eventually asked her if she was being truthful about what she'd disclosed.
Her answer was a sheepish 'no' - some years before, she'd read in some rubbish magazine for teenyboppers that it was a good idea to dangle stuff like that in front of a new boyfriend to gauge his personality from his reaction. Considering she was 24 years old at the time, I was bloody appalled.
Unsurprisingly, it fizzled out. That girl was one of the most intellectually dismal people I've ever met.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:58:17 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:58:17 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
Don't be a dick, Peter. Given that there are only nine keys with letters assigned to them and twenty-six letters in the alphabet, several words may be denoted by the same number keys. All predictive text messaging does is present the most likely option first and (in most cases) allows you to cycle through the alternative options, usually with the * key.
This is an intelligent and logical development of the technology, hampered only by the fact that not everyone will agree what the most obvious first choice should be. It's hardly an assault on literacy.
Cheers
Jim
If i am being a dick then fair enough but i have a mobile that only has 8 keys that are assigned to letters and i havent needed to have this facility.
I probably got a bit carried away with myself and like all kinds of technology like this what suits one might not or wont suit another and it just seems that by the time i have faffed around with choosing a word i could have typed it in myself anyway.I wasnt saying its an assualt on literacy but rather another one of these supposedly time/labour saving ideas that i dont find necessary.
*
If you have a mobile then why not have voice mail ?
It doesnt make any sense not to have voicemail and if your chosen network provider tries to charge you for having voicemail then ditch them and find another that doesnt.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 03 November, 2009, 10:21:02 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 03 November, 2009, 10:21:02 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
WTF is this predictive text ?
I dont usually send texts and i dont use this facility and i havent come across it and i dont know anything about it...
Thanks as always for the input, pete. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 03 November, 2009, 11:12:53 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 03 November, 2009, 11:12:53 PM
I'm with Peter on th predictive stuff. Being a technophobe I only ended up with a mobile when a work colleague got a new one and insisted I take his old one cos it was going in the bin otherwise and besides, I was abnormal for not having one.
Not wanting to appear rude I took it and to be fair I have had some use out of it. The trouble was though, he had that predictive nonsense switched on and I couldn't for the life of me get it to send a text that made sense. And not knowing what I was doing I couldn't turn it off. When I asked the guy I got it from he rather sheepishly explained that he didn't know either. It was switched on as standard and he couldn't get it off. It was one of the reasons he replaced the phone.
All that said, it was quite an old phone and I'm sure that the tech has moved on and improved but until someone else is throwing away a newer model I won't know since I have neither the money nor inclination to update while the one I have is capable of making phone calls, surely the most important factor.
Not wanting to appear rude I took it and to be fair I have had some use out of it. The trouble was though, he had that predictive nonsense switched on and I couldn't for the life of me get it to send a text that made sense. And not knowing what I was doing I couldn't turn it off. When I asked the guy I got it from he rather sheepishly explained that he didn't know either. It was switched on as standard and he couldn't get it off. It was one of the reasons he replaced the phone.
All that said, it was quite an old phone and I'm sure that the tech has moved on and improved but until someone else is throwing away a newer model I won't know since I have neither the money nor inclination to update while the one I have is capable of making phone calls, surely the most important factor.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2009, 11:16:16 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2009, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 10:26:02 AM
Offal. Why?
I'm sorry but meat/flesh sets my taste buds alight. I will not touch liver, tongue, heart, kidney, etc...
I feel sick just thinking about all that gunk!
You're weird. Going on about how delicious meat is, but turning your nose up at kidneys! They're one of the best bits. Delicious. Haven't eaten one in 20-odd years, but I would if I were ever to take up meat-eating again.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
Right. So ... the objections to predictive text messaging are thus far:
Peterwolf ... on the grounds that he knows fuck all about it but because he's never used it, he doesn't see the point of it but objects in principle because everyone should always do everything the hard way
Faplad ... on the grounds that he got given a phone that he didn't know how to work it.
Well, fuck me. I'm convinced. That was a worthwhile deployment of bandwidth, wasn't it?
For what it's worth, BTW, no, "making calls" is thing I do least of with my phone. I hate speaking to people on the phone -- always have, even back in the days when phones were attached to your house. I don't need to speak to someone to let them know "Bus stuck in traffic. Will be a few minutes late to the pub."
Cheers
Jim
Peterwolf ... on the grounds that he knows fuck all about it but because he's never used it, he doesn't see the point of it but objects in principle because everyone should always do everything the hard way
Faplad ... on the grounds that he got given a phone that he didn't know how to work it.
Well, fuck me. I'm convinced. That was a worthwhile deployment of bandwidth, wasn't it?
For what it's worth, BTW, no, "making calls" is thing I do least of with my phone. I hate speaking to people on the phone -- always have, even back in the days when phones were attached to your house. I don't need to speak to someone to let them know "Bus stuck in traffic. Will be a few minutes late to the pub."
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 03 November, 2009, 11:26:48 PM
Post by: Satanist on 03 November, 2009, 11:26:48 PM
I just caved in a month ago and got a mobile after hating them for years and I love it.
I sent a text earlier and it predicted zombie.
and kids are great and horrible. I'll leave it at that.
I sent a text earlier and it predicted zombie.
and kids are great and horrible. I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 11:27:54 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 11:27:54 PM
I just can't be arsed fiddling about with that predictive text. Plus I just prefer to write my messages out longhand, it's just the way I was brought up. I suppose if I was a teenager and used this from that sort of age then who knows but until I die my texts will be typed out longhand.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 03 November, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Post by: Satanist on 03 November, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
on the grounds that he knows fuck all about it but because he's never used it, he doesn't see the point of it but objects in principle because everyone should always do everything the hard way
Sorry but couldnt you apply much the same argument to people without kids that dont see the point in them? Or is that a touchy subject?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 03 November, 2009, 11:38:05 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 03 November, 2009, 11:38:05 PM
I feel my heartfelt views may be being made light of. :)
Truth is, I could probably do without the phone altogether. When I first got it most of the use turned out to be calls from or about work, thus lengthening my hours from 7:30-5:00 to whatever my bosses or customers felt like. Now, in my jobless state it's pretty much just used for ordering take away food. From a shop I could walk to in 15mins.
Both scenarios required actual voice to voice communication. I'm with Jim on not liking it, I feel uncomfortable holding a conversation with someone when I can't see their eyes or body language, but it is what I do most of.
Truth is, I could probably do without the phone altogether. When I first got it most of the use turned out to be calls from or about work, thus lengthening my hours from 7:30-5:00 to whatever my bosses or customers felt like. Now, in my jobless state it's pretty much just used for ordering take away food. From a shop I could walk to in 15mins.
Both scenarios required actual voice to voice communication. I'm with Jim on not liking it, I feel uncomfortable holding a conversation with someone when I can't see their eyes or body language, but it is what I do most of.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2009, 11:43:55 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2009, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: Banners on 03 November, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
I once got a text message from a girl saying she was "thinking about last night together and feeling very sorry". I like to think that predictive text was to blame for that one.
I'm guessing "thinking about last night together and feeling very sore".
- sorry to be so slow but I've only just got in and this thread has been very busy today. ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
Quote from: The Satanist on 03 November, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Sorry but couldnt you apply much the same argument to people without kids that dont see the point in them? Or is that a touchy subject?
Have I ever suggested such a thing? And, besides: no, the two things are in no way equivalent, so please feel free to explain what the fuck you're talking about, particularly since I'm pointing out that it's a stupid reason for objecting to anything.
Quote from: Commando ForcesI just can't be arsed fiddling about with that predictive text
OK ... an example off the top of my head (this is actually quite difficult without a predictive text phone):
The word "edit" ... without predictive, that would be hit 3,3 ... pause ... 3 ... pause ... 4,4,4 ... pause ... 8
Or, with predictive: 3,3,4,8
How is that the more fiddly option?
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Don't you have to somehow programme certain words into it because when I've seen people start using it, all sorts of strange words come up
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 11:51:58 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
Right. So ... the objections to predictive text messaging are thus far:
Peterwolf ... on the grounds that he knows fuck all about it but because he's never used it, he doesn't see the point of it but objects in principle because everyone should always do everything the hard way
"
Cheers
Jim
I dont know how "everyone" suddenly entered into the equation since i was only talking about myself and not the collective.
What someone else does or doesnt do is their business and is of no interest to me at all and i am certainly not sitting here making judgements about anyone else who does use predictive text.
We do what suits ourselves and that way everyone is happy.
Ok so i havent tried to use but i have the right to have a personal opinion and reject something on principle and i also have the right to be wrong if thats the case but there is no right or wrong in this instance so therefore there is no argument.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 04 November, 2009, 12:01:50 AM
Post by: uncle fester on 04 November, 2009, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
even back in the days when phones were attached to your house.
Sorry, this bit made me laugh out loud. Thought it was worth mentioning :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:04:41 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 November, 2009, 11:50:21 PM
Don't you have to somehow programme certain words into it because when I've seen people start using it, all sorts of strange words come up
A new phone will likely not have more obscure words in the dictionary -- and usually swear words either -- so, yeah, with a new phone you usually* have to spend an entertaining few minutes correcting "aunt" to "cunt" and the like, but this is a one time deal, followed by the very occasional need to override the dictionary when it fails to know a word that you've used.
On the other hand, it tends to get common words right most of the time, which is automatically a labour saver when E -- most common vowel -- requires two key presses and S -- most common consonant -- requires 4 presses.
Cheers
Jim
* God bless Apple -- my iPhone dictionary came equipped with swear words.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:09:21 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 11:51:58 PM
Ok so i havent tried to use but i have the right to have a personal opinion and reject something on principle and i also have the right to be wrong if thats the case but there is no right or wrong in this instance so therefore there is no argument.
For fuck's sake, Peter ... just because you can have an opinion on something doesn't mean that you have to!
Honestly -- going to all the trouble of expressing quite a forthright opinion on a feature you've never used that's intended to make it easier to perform an action you rarely perform ...?
That's like me weighing into a discussion on the relative merits of diesel engines versus petrol: "Well, I've never used a diesel or a petrol engine, because I don't drive, but I'm going to tell you my opinion anyway."
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 12:36:11 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 12:36:11 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:09:21 AMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2009, 11:51:58 PM
Ok so i havent tried to use but i have the right to have a personal opinion and reject something on principle and i also have the right to be wrong if thats the case but there is no right or wrong in this instance so therefore there is no argument.
For fuck's sake, Peter ... just because you can have an opinion on something doesn't mean that you have to!
Honestly -- going to all the trouble of expressing quite a forthright opinion on a feature you've never used that's intended to make it easier to perform an action you rarely perform ...?
That's like me weighing into a discussion on the relative merits of diesel engines versus petrol: "Well, I've never used a diesel or a petrol engine, because I don't drive, but I'm going to tell you my opinion anyway."
Cheers
Jim
Its partly to do with being opinionated and a luddite and when i was reading the comments about it i just thought WTF is this ?? something that predicts what i am going to type in ?? and then my fingers and the keypad did the rest.This isnt an apology but its an expanation for my comment or my thinking or logic or lack of.Whatever.
Anyway my main concern was not to be seen as being judgemental about what others do on their mobiles.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 04 November, 2009, 12:47:24 AM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 04 November, 2009, 12:47:24 AM
I've never used predictive text and as i'm nobbynaemates, nobody texts or phones me my mobile is used as a alarm clock and is jammed under my mattress at the moment.
filip
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 04 November, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 04 November, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Just put your number up here and I'm sure you'll get some texts ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
Post by: Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 03 November, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
Have I ever suggested such a thing? And, besides: no, the two things are in no way equivalent, so please feel free to explain what the fuck you're talking about,
No you havent suggested such a thing and I dont think I said you did. I was a bit boozed up but for you to get so worked up about texting seems a bit sad when there are some much larger subjects on this thread.
All I was saying was that someone bemoaning a subject they have never experienced is comparable with your statement no? Be it texting/kids/bungie jumping.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 08:19:43 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: The Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 08:03:52 AM
No you havent suggested such a thing and I dont think I said you did.
You quoted me, started your reply with "Sorry, but ..." indicating that you were responding directly to my point and then concluded with your arch little question "Or is that a touchy subject?"
Either you were addressing me directly, or conflating my statement with a position I've never taken. If that wasn't your intention, then fair enough, but that's certainly how it read.
Quote
for you to get so worked up about texting seems a bit sad when there are some much larger subjects on this thread.
Actually, I thought it was worth knocking down some of the ridiculous responses on this subject precisely because the objections were so tenuous. Besides which, this thread isn't the repository for musings on the global issues du jour, it's about aspects of popular culture we don't get.
If people were discussing practical methods for countering the rise of the far right here and across Europe, then I'd accept your attempt to take the moral high ground. But they're not.
Bah.
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: worldshown on 04 November, 2009, 08:26:05 AM
Post by: worldshown on 04 November, 2009, 08:26:05 AM
I've found predictive texting depends a lot on the make of the phone.
My first phone (a Nokia) was terrible. It would constantly change the letters that you wanted as you tried to type further and wouldn't let you alter what it had chosen. I never managed a complete word with it, let alone a text.
My second phone (Motorola) was much better. Didn't try to complete the word until you'd typed three letters and if the word it had chosen was wrong you could keep typing until the correct one came up.
My current phone (Samsung) doesn't appear to have this facility although I try not to text with it as any phone that requires 15 keypresses for an apostrophe has an inherent design fault.
My first phone (a Nokia) was terrible. It would constantly change the letters that you wanted as you tried to type further and wouldn't let you alter what it had chosen. I never managed a complete word with it, let alone a text.
My second phone (Motorola) was much better. Didn't try to complete the word until you'd typed three letters and if the word it had chosen was wrong you could keep typing until the correct one came up.
My current phone (Samsung) doesn't appear to have this facility although I try not to text with it as any phone that requires 15 keypresses for an apostrophe has an inherent design fault.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Banners on 04 November, 2009, 09:07:29 AM
Post by: Banners on 04 November, 2009, 09:07:29 AM
Quote from: House of UsherQuote from: Banners
I once got a text message from a girl saying she was "thinking about last night together and feeling very sorry". I like to think that predictive text was to blame for that one.
I'm guessing "thinking about last night together and feeling very sore".
I was thinking "soppy"...(!)
M@
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Post by: Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Jim,
Nae bother as said I had a few beers and a few posts on this thread gave me the red mist and then I see it all kick off about texting of all things. Its more me though than anyones opinion on this thread as Ive had a cunt of a year and without the kids to distract me I really dont know what I wouldve done.
So apologies to anyone if Ive offended here as it really wasnt my intention, more of a venting of pent up whatever it is Im feeling these days.
Anyhoo before I step away I'll just say Ive dropped off the kids at childminder/nursery and after a 6 bus round trip I now dont see the point of queing for public transport as evidently no other fucker does.
Nae bother as said I had a few beers and a few posts on this thread gave me the red mist and then I see it all kick off about texting of all things. Its more me though than anyones opinion on this thread as Ive had a cunt of a year and without the kids to distract me I really dont know what I wouldve done.
So apologies to anyone if Ive offended here as it really wasnt my intention, more of a venting of pent up whatever it is Im feeling these days.
Anyhoo before I step away I'll just say Ive dropped off the kids at childminder/nursery and after a 6 bus round trip I now dont see the point of queing for public transport as evidently no other fucker does.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 04 November, 2009, 11:16:23 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 04 November, 2009, 11:16:23 AM
I don't agree bisexuality is a lifestyle choice- I believe pretending to be a bisexual is a choice--a world of difference there
Almost every girl I've ever gone out with has had a sexual encounter with another girl (relationship is too strong a word). It's may be easier for women to explore their sexuality as, well for instance, they're not going to get the shit beat out of them quite so readily as the boys, as well as hundred other factors I couldn't be arsed getting into here..
re predictive texting, my brother sent me a message by mistake one time saying "the Harry Potter Hand is on sale in a shop in town" For ages I was wondering what this Harry Potter Hand could be, picturing some sort of model with life lines and such...
but no..predictive texting he meant "harry potter game"
stupid predictive texting
Almost every girl I've ever gone out with has had a sexual encounter with another girl (relationship is too strong a word). It's may be easier for women to explore their sexuality as, well for instance, they're not going to get the shit beat out of them quite so readily as the boys, as well as hundred other factors I couldn't be arsed getting into here..
re predictive texting, my brother sent me a message by mistake one time saying "the Harry Potter Hand is on sale in a shop in town" For ages I was wondering what this Harry Potter Hand could be, picturing some sort of model with life lines and such...
but no..predictive texting he meant "harry potter game"
stupid predictive texting
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 11:17:59 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 11:17:59 AM
The changing faces of predictive text to each new phone you get can be a ball ache. And posting on forums with the phone gets a bit frustrating.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 November, 2009, 12:27:58 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 November, 2009, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: The Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 10:25:01 AMBy far the strangest thing about working in Edinburgh is the way people actually queue up in the street in an orderly fashion to get on the bus, rather than the traditional Glasgow melee. I attracted disapproving glances the first time I marched straight onto one, before I realised how they do things there.
Anyhoo before I step away I'll just say Ive dropped off the kids at childminder/nursery and after a 6 bus round trip I now dont see the point of queing for public transport as evidently no other fucker does.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 12:37:04 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: The Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
Jim,
Nae bother as said I had a few beers and a few posts on this thread gave me the red mist and then I see it all kick off about texting of all things. Its more me though than anyones opinion on this thread as Ive had a cunt of a year and without the kids to distract me I really dont know what I wouldve done.
So apologies to anyone if Ive offended here as it really wasnt my intention, more of a venting of pent up whatever it is Im feeling these days.
Much the same really except i hadnt been drinking and the second half of this year has definately been a cunt and its mostly circumstances beyond my control including cunting Gordon Brown and a banker bailout scam recession which has lost me loads of work.I have deleted god knows how many posts lately but last nights got through.
If i wasnt doing my own artwork as a distraction i dont know what i would have done.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:49:16 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 12:49:16 PM
Good God, chaps ... the number of bad tempered and/or drunken posts I've apologized for in my time on this board! I'm happy to say no more about it -- least said, soonest whatnot, eh?
Cheers
Jim
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 01:01:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 01:01:31 PM
I LOVE predictive texting, it gives you such interesting new words. I remember texting a friend to ask them to bring their clarinet to jam session as I fancied something a little different.
The word I got instead of clarinet?
BLARINDU!
I love that. Easily the best non-existant word predictive text has ever produced.
The word I got instead of clarinet?
BLARINDU!
I love that. Easily the best non-existant word predictive text has ever produced.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 01:04:58 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 01:01:31 PM
BLARINDU!
I love that. Easily the best non-existant word predictive text has ever produced.
I've adopted "Huspag!" which one of my phones offered in place of "Hurrah!"
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Huspag Blarindu.
Sounds like an alien dignitary from a crappy sci-fi movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xnznFzLek
Sounds like an alien dignitary from a crappy sci-fi movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xnznFzLek
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 02:02:06 PM
Here's something I don't get:
People who leave the first comment on blog posts or news stories simply saying "FIRST!", as if doing so will grant them some sort of fame or immortality, when all it actually does is paint a desperately sad picture of a lonely individual, hunched over their keyboard constantly hitting the refresh key.
People who leave the first comment on blog posts or news stories simply saying "FIRST!", as if doing so will grant them some sort of fame or immortality, when all it actually does is paint a desperately sad picture of a lonely individual, hunched over their keyboard constantly hitting the refresh key.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 04 November, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 04 November, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 November, 2009, 04:23:51 PMUnless you're looking after someone else's, or acquired them entirely by accident, having kids in this 21st century is a hugely self-indulgent pastime, an all-consuming (if very rewarding) hobby that saps your resources and options in equal measure . . . it's not a lot different to dedicating yourself to some other crazy self-indulgent scheme involving long difficult hours for decades at a strtch . . .
TordelBack, if you ever[1] happen to need somewhere to stay in the Old Smoke, there's a room here in Mrs. Souster's B&B, gratis. The only proviso is that you repeat all that to Mrs. Souster herself.
Don't worry, if things get lairy I'll have the old Energizer on[2] hand[3] to placate things with her.
[1] You've got twenty-four hours.
[2] That's on hand, not in.
[3] Admittedly, the old Energizer's glow is just for show which is why I've been able to delay the whole thing this long already.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
People taking up the whole pavement EVEN when the person coming the opposite way is a sole jayer.
Some small pavement apocolypse could kick off at any moment if said sole jayer was to point out the ease of which the party of two or more could mediate some form of consciousness to other users of the pavement for the short while. And its noticed more, when it's int the countryside and they take up a HUGE pavement to themselves. Totally ignorant of other path users.
Some small pavement apocolypse could kick off at any moment if said sole jayer was to point out the ease of which the party of two or more could mediate some form of consciousness to other users of the pavement for the short while. And its noticed more, when it's int the countryside and they take up a HUGE pavement to themselves. Totally ignorant of other path users.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 04:15:25 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 04:15:25 PM
Whats a Sole Jayer ? It sounds like the product of predictive text.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 04:27:53 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 04:27:53 PM
Someone from my imagination who walks on pavements. From the term jay walker. I could have said pedestrian i suppose.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 November, 2009, 04:36:55 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 November, 2009, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 04 November, 2009, 12:27:58 PMQuote from: The Satanist on 04 November, 2009, 10:25:01 AMBy far the strangest thing about working in Edinburgh is the way people actually queue up in the street in an orderly fashion to get on the bus, rather than the traditional Glasgow melee. I attracted disapproving glances the first time I marched straight onto one, before I realised how they do things there.
Anyhoo before I step away I'll just say Ive dropped off the kids at childminder/nursery and after a 6 bus round trip I now dont see the point of queing for public transport as evidently no other fucker does.
Its true, A day trip to Weegeeville and its environs had this Old Reekie residents blood boiling, I tell you beyond the bypass is byond the pale.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 04 November, 2009, 04:27:53 PM
Someone from my imagination who walks on pavements. From the term jay walker. I could have said pedestrian i suppose.
I was being a bit slow but i think i like your terminology more than the word pedestrian which i have never liked as a term of description.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 05:14:15 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 05:14:15 PM
Yeah, it's a bit.... pedestrian.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 04 November, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 04 November, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
That gets on my nerve as well, Krombasher.
These groups of people walk in a line, intentionally taking up the entire footpath making no allowances for anyone coming against them and forcing them onto the road.
These groups of people walk in a line, intentionally taking up the entire footpath making no allowances for anyone coming against them and forcing them onto the road.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 06:09:13 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2009, 06:09:13 PM
I don't see what they get out of it Gavin. It's like walking up to a load of myspace chatroomers!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Along similar lines: street shoulder barging. Is it a London thing? I haven't experienced it anywhere else in the UK or abroad. The 'I'm not going to give an inch why should I make space for you when you should be the one that moves entirely out of my way.' I just popped out to get my prog and a woman came out of a coffee shop holding one of those plastic tray things with a bunch of coffees. She walked as if she owned the fuckin' pavement and I moved out of her way to save her from losing all those coffees. Such arrogance.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 06:28:41 PM
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 06:28:41 PM
QuoteThat gets on my nerve as well, Krombasher.
These groups of people walk in a line, intentionally taking up the entire footpath making no allowances for anyone coming against them and forcing them onto the road.
That gets on my tits too. Working in London, what's especially annoying is the large herds of tourists who seem to think it's a great idea to loiter right in front of extremely busy tube stations during rush hour.
Another thing is people trying to get on the tube before all the people disembarking have managed to get off. This angers me so much that I sometimes deliberately shoulder-barge the offending people on my way out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 06:42:57 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 06:42:57 PM
I know what you mean now.
You get this now and again but i fail to understand the point of it .It looks a bit absurd as well.
Annoying creatures people are.
Its not unique to London as you get it here as well.It happened the other day when i walked past someone i was clipped by someone who tried this but i barely noticed it but there have been instances where it has happened but they usually get knocked out of the way because usually i can spot these types and their intent so i dont move out of the way because two can play at that game and they always end up being worse off for it.
With women its slightly different and you are right to point out that its arrogance.I had one instance of this a short while ago when i asked her if i could get by and i was ignored by her both times so i just pushed her out of the way because she was playing silly games.Another time this happened it was a couple and the male half of the couple again was playing stupid games and wouldnt move so i pushed past and he starts shouting "OI!" so i thought he cant be talking to me because i dont answer to "OI !" so i just ignored him.
Last of all i am quite happy to push anyone out of the way if they try to get on the tube train before i have got off.What stupid ignorant behaviour.Zero tolerance.
You get this now and again but i fail to understand the point of it .It looks a bit absurd as well.
Annoying creatures people are.
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Along similar lines: street shoulder barging. Is it a London thing? I haven't experienced it anywhere else in the UK or abroad. The 'I'm not going to give an inch why should I make space for you when you should be the one that moves entirely out of my way.' I just popped out to get my prog and a woman came out of a coffee shop holding one of those plastic tray things with a bunch of coffees. She walked as if she owned the fuckin' pavement and I moved out of her way to save her from losing all those coffees. Such arrogance.
Its not unique to London as you get it here as well.It happened the other day when i walked past someone i was clipped by someone who tried this but i barely noticed it but there have been instances where it has happened but they usually get knocked out of the way because usually i can spot these types and their intent so i dont move out of the way because two can play at that game and they always end up being worse off for it.
With women its slightly different and you are right to point out that its arrogance.I had one instance of this a short while ago when i asked her if i could get by and i was ignored by her both times so i just pushed her out of the way because she was playing silly games.Another time this happened it was a couple and the male half of the couple again was playing stupid games and wouldnt move so i pushed past and he starts shouting "OI!" so i thought he cant be talking to me because i dont answer to "OI !" so i just ignored him.
Last of all i am quite happy to push anyone out of the way if they try to get on the tube train before i have got off.What stupid ignorant behaviour.Zero tolerance.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 04 November, 2009, 06:44:11 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 04 November, 2009, 06:44:11 PM
Funny the way things work. I have to read an online discussion on texting to find out that the first anthropologist I ever read died last week. Whose phone could have predicted that, eh?
Cheers for the link, Cthlouis.
Cheers for the link, Cthlouis.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 04 November, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 04 November, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
People who pay a lot of money to go and see a band then when they're there either spend the whole evening in the bar or constantly walking to and fro - I've had more squashed toes than I care to mention! and to for the GIT who elbowed me in the ribs and stood on my foot before shoving me out of the way to enable his safe passage at the Muse gig - assuming you have one I hope it drops off
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
Post by: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Along similar lines: street shoulder barging. Is it a London thing?
Oh no no no, it is not just a London thing, there's plenty of that particular brand of dickery up here in the Midlands too.
It's like playing a game of chicken in some respects.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 04 November, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 04 November, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
If there is any texting to be done I leave it to the missus. New fangled gizmo's warp my mind.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 November, 2009, 08:21:05 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 November, 2009, 08:21:05 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 03 November, 2009, 03:56:17 PMAllow me to suggest another for you... bits that don't smell of piss when you're cooking them : bits that do smell of piss when you're cooking them.QuoteI will not touch liver, tongue, heart...You're a structuralist anthropologist's dream, CF! Some parts of the burnt dead animal carcass are for drooling longingly over, others are too disgusting to contemplate. The edible : inedible opposition maps to... discretely identifiable organs : anonymous muscle tissue / Naturalistic : Abstract / Wild : Domestic / Butchery : Cooking / Waste : Produce / Poor : Rich / Past : Present.
Intriguing stuff!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Albion on 04 November, 2009, 08:46:10 PM
Post by: Albion on 04 November, 2009, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 04 November, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
People who pay a lot of money to go and see a band then when they're there either spend the whole evening in the bar or constantly walking to and fro
Totally agree. The people that have loud shouty conversations when a band is on piss me off too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 04 November, 2009, 09:31:41 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 04 November, 2009, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 07:17:18 PMQuote from: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Along similar lines: street shoulder barging. Is it a London thing?
Oh no no no, it is not just a London thing, there's plenty of that particular brand of dickery up here in the Midlands too.
It's like playing a game of chicken in some respects.
They do it here in Scouseland too, but generally not more than once.
I'm not intentionally malicious, but I'm a sturdily constructed gentleman, and my reactions aren't the fastest.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
Post by: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
I suppose that's the north, midlands, and the south covered then.
I can see tomorrow's headline now, 'Britain full of arrogant, pavement-hogging cocks, more on page 6'.
I can see tomorrow's headline now, 'Britain full of arrogant, pavement-hogging cocks, more on page 6'.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 04 November, 2009, 09:52:16 PM
Post by: HdE on 04 November, 2009, 09:52:16 PM
Christmas shopping.
Fer gawd's sake - every year it's the same. It's like some mass collective consciousness kicks in around mid October, and suddenly shopping in town becomes a life-and-death struggle for dominance.
Already I'm noticing people dawdling along, completely oblivious to the possibility that folks around them may be in a hurry, may need to get somewhere quick-smart, or may simply want to get through their afternoon's shopping without having to sk them more than twice to 'please excuse me'.
I hate shopping in my town around this time of year - people suddenly seem less aware of common courtesy. They give no thought to obstructing aisles in shops, abruptly stop in doorways RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU to have conversations with their spouses or friends. I SWEAR this is a particular problem in the dying months of the year.
Fer gawd's sake - every year it's the same. It's like some mass collective consciousness kicks in around mid October, and suddenly shopping in town becomes a life-and-death struggle for dominance.
Already I'm noticing people dawdling along, completely oblivious to the possibility that folks around them may be in a hurry, may need to get somewhere quick-smart, or may simply want to get through their afternoon's shopping without having to sk them more than twice to 'please excuse me'.
I hate shopping in my town around this time of year - people suddenly seem less aware of common courtesy. They give no thought to obstructing aisles in shops, abruptly stop in doorways RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU to have conversations with their spouses or friends. I SWEAR this is a particular problem in the dying months of the year.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 09:53:17 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2009, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 04 November, 2009, 09:31:41 PMQuote from: Christov on 04 November, 2009, 07:17:18 PMQuote from: SuperSurfer on 04 November, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Along similar lines: street shoulder barging. Is it a London thing?
Oh no no no, it is not just a London thing, there's plenty of that particular brand of dickery up here in the Midlands too.
It's like playing a game of chicken in some respects.
They do it here in Scouseland too, but generally not more than once.
I'm not intentionally malicious, but I'm a sturdily constructed gentleman, and my reactions aren't the fastest.
Do you mean it can happen accidentally ?
Of course that can and does happen but somehow i can always tell if it was deliberate or not and like i say i usually see it coming and i have never once mistaken something innocent as something malicious and i wouldnt want to either.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Post by: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
QuoteChristmas shopping.
Internet shopping is your friend...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 11:15:29 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 04 November, 2009, 11:15:29 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Internet shopping is your friend...
Yes, yes, yes. I do almost all my Christmas shopping online and it's just brilliant. Last year, I actually had a phantom panic attack about two weeks before Christmas until I realized that I'd done every single bit of my family Christmas shopping without leaving the house.
Just brilliant.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2009, 11:24:31 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2009, 11:24:31 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 04 November, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
People taking up the whole pavement EVEN when the person coming the opposite way is a sole jayer.
As somebody who often carries around a lot of luggage - having to work out of books and do paperwork at a workplace where I don't have an office, and not having owned a car for 10 years before this summer - it annoys me so much when people in the street carrying nothing take up the whole pavement and expect heavily laden people to skirt around them carrying a rucksack, a suitcase, two suitcases or up to three heavy bags in each hand.
But I don't think it really comes under the heading of 'things I don't see the appeal of.' I just wanted to get it off my chest!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 04 November, 2009, 11:27:52 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 04 November, 2009, 11:27:52 PM
Having short hair. :(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2009, 11:32:02 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2009, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 04 November, 2009, 06:44:11 PM
Funny the way things work. I have to read an online discussion on texting to find out that the first anthropologist I ever read died last week. Whose phone could have predicted that, eh?
I didn't find out about that one on here, I found out about it on the RIP thread courtesy of Roger Godpleton. That one came as a surprise because, yes, I never even knew he was alive when he still was, going back to about 1990. He made it to 100 years old!! Wow.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 November, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
He was awful long lived wasn't he?
Famous for his jeans AS WELL as foisting structuralism on generations unborn of students.
Famous for his jeans AS WELL as foisting structuralism on generations unborn of students.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 12:38:08 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 12:38:08 AM
QuoteI found out about it on the RIP thread courtesy of Roger Godpleton.
Ah, that'd be the 'ignore' function doing its thing.
Kidding, of course, a day without RGp is like a day with no dawn. I've been steering clear of the RIP thread for a while, it does my fragile head no good.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 05 November, 2009, 02:01:52 AM
Post by: HdE on 05 November, 2009, 02:01:52 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 November, 2009, 11:04:20 PMQuoteChristmas shopping.
Internet shopping is your friend...
And for that, I'm eternally grateful!
Thing is, I was more concerned with the unavoidable tasks of my weekly bank run, the picking up of bits and bobs I need for work - all that stuff. You have no idea how stressful and difficult the public can make simple tasks like that at this time of year.
But yes, I will be shopping online like THE CLAPPERS this year. Like THE CLAPPERS, I tells ya!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 03:09:57 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 03:09:57 AM
Never heard of Levi Strauss the philosopher .The only Levi Strauss i know is the maker of jeans and t shirts etc but i am ignant innit.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 07:00:24 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 07:00:24 AM
Bastarding structuralism. The only essay in my academic career that I loathed writing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 05 November, 2009, 10:49:46 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 05 November, 2009, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 07:00:24 AM
Bastarding structuralism. The only essay in my academic career that I loathed writing.
My degree was in social anthropology and I don't even remember having to write that essay! There were so many others to write I do believe there was a significant element of choice involved. I think Marxist, interpretivist, functionalist and structural-functionalist theory and methodology got a lot more core coverage, and I did write an essay about postmodernist theory. My knowledge of structuralism was gleaned essentially from attending lectures and reading a couple of book chapters. 'The Raw and the Cooked' rings a bell.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 11:03:58 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 11:03:58 AM
Yeah, doing archaeology we had to cover aspects of anth and arch theory and structuralism is one of the important tools regardless of whether you think it has useful applications or not in an archaeological context (my position is yes, but some people take the piss and most arch theory grounded in structuralism is pretty barking). Unfortunately I couldn't stretch that stuff in brackets to 3500 words in the short time allowed without just cutting and psting it. Got a poor mark, but it didn't remotely harm me otherwise.
Good stuff to know, not sure of how useful it was. Still, the brainquake it gave me still makes me smile, so not at all a wasted experience.
Good stuff to know, not sure of how useful it was. Still, the brainquake it gave me still makes me smile, so not at all a wasted experience.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 05 November, 2009, 05:43:36 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 05 November, 2009, 05:43:36 PM
QuoteCheers for the link, Cthlouis.
No probs. Caught me by surprise too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 05:47:05 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 05:47:05 PM
QuoteYeah, doing archaeology we had to cover aspects of anth and arch theory and structuralism is one of the important tools
Just one more left-hand turn in the hermeneutic circle.
In my day it was all post-structuralism, structuration and phenomenology, and Renfrew trying to persuade everyone they were all the same thing. Still, I miss thinking, it was fun.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
I have read up on philosophy and phenomenolgy and hermeneutics and Husserl and that kind of thing but i have never once ever come across Structuralism and Levi Strauss.
You learn something new every day and a cliche a day is good for you.
You learn something new every day and a cliche a day is good for you.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
I have read up on philosophy and phenomenolgy and hermeneutics and Husserl and that kind of thing but i have never once ever come across Structuralism and Levi Strauss.
No real reason you should. As a theoretically-backwards discipline (too much data, not enough time), archaeology is always staggering around appropriating whole bodies of incompatible theory that other subjects have already tried, critiqued and rejected decades earlier, so we tend to get odd bedfellows shoved at us. I did geography as the second half of my primary degree, a pretty marginal operation in its own right, but it was very funny to see various strands of landscape theory being embraced as the Holy Grail by archaeologists, when they had already been passed by as old hat in geography. And don't get me started on textual analysis.
Title: Re: Dredd help
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 06:20:08 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 November, 2009, 06:20:08 PM
Oh Renfrew lives in his own little bubble. Mad as anything and i disagree with much of what he says, but some useful ideas. And yeah, thinking was fun. One day i'll get back to some of that... Peter, have a look into his stuff. Heavy going in places but very interesting, even if - or even especially - like me, you disagree with many of his ideas. But yeah, archaeology does tend to thieve from other disciplines' bins as much as from graves so we usually end up reading the oddest things. There's a career to be made in archaeology for the person willing to reexamine an old theory that's yet to be archaeologically applied.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 November, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
QuoteThere's a career to be made in archaeology for the person willing to reexamine an old theory that's yet to be archaeologically applied.
QFT. And the more impenetrable the borrowed jargon, the more successful the career.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:25:06 PM
I feel hopelessly out of my depth already after reading all that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:44:29 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:44:29 PM
Television.
I dont see any point in watching it as its always the same old repetetive formula ised drivel and i have always got something better to do with my time and my total TV watching time per week barring the odd unexpected documentary type thing consists of 1 hour per week watching generation kill and at other times it can be none at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 05 November, 2009, 09:36:54 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 05 November, 2009, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
I have read up on philosophy and phenomenolgy and hermeneutics and Husserl and that kind of thing...
That kind of thing tends to lead to interpretivism an intellectual genealogy leading back to Max Weber, where reality gets defined by subjective experience and value orientations, and the methodologies which follow include biography, ethnography and the aforementioned textual analysis.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:44:29 PM
I dont see any point in watching it as its always the same old repetetive formula ised drivel and i have always got something better to do with my time
I like television. I find it relaxing, especially when it's undemanding (hello, Comedy Central!). I'm on the go most of the time, so when I stop I have nothing better to do than watch TV or sleep. I can see the appeal of television. It goes well with comfortable tiredness.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 05 November, 2009, 09:51:10 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 05 November, 2009, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 05 November, 2009, 09:36:54 PM
That kind of thing tends to lead to interpretivism an intellectual genealogy leading back to Max Weber, where reality gets defined by subjective experience and value orientations, and the methodologies which follow include biography, ethnography and the aforementioned textual analysis.
Admit it - you just made all that up, didn't you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 05 November, 2009, 10:02:25 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 05 November, 2009, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 05 November, 2009, 09:51:10 PM
Admit it - you just made all that up, didn't you?
This is a good game. Can anyone play? (http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/)
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 November, 2009, 10:47:12 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 November, 2009, 10:47:12 PM
I don't understand the appeal of Guitar hero on an iphone with predictive text.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 November, 2009, 10:55:12 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 05 November, 2009, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 08:44:29 PM
Television.
I like television, there's usually something on I can enjoy, even if it's a comedy rerun on Dave that I've seen several times before, but I find I'm unable (with only a few exceptions)to simply sit and WATCH the telly - I need to have something else to do at the same time, such as hanging out here or other computer stuff, or I need a comic or newspaper in front of me so I can keep glancing down whenever my attention wanders.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 05 November, 2009, 11:05:02 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 05 November, 2009, 11:05:02 PM
Rotisserie chicken. Dunno if it's just because I've never had good rotisserie chicken but it's too sweet.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 05 November, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 05 November, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
Hammocks. They're not comfy at all. I turned my couch into one and there is no way I got a good nights kip.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 November, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
I just dont really have the time to watch it because i like to keep up with or for certain reasons need to keep up with current events/affairs/news on the internet and i watch a multitude of videos on Youtube that is all mostly educational or political in nature plus being active on other forums.
I have to prioritise as time flies so fast sometimes.
For light entertainment theres loads on youtube as well.
The Internet is my TV.
I have to prioritise as time flies so fast sometimes.
For light entertainment theres loads on youtube as well.
The Internet is my TV.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 29 October, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
To be honest, I'm with Filip on this one. There *is* a new underclass of Epsilon Semi-Morons who believe they're entitled to take what they want without giving anything back to society. They don't follow the rules of society, and they reproduce at an alarming rate.
The Royal Family? Bankers? Celebrities?
I don't understand the appeal of parking on the pavement. I used to drive for a living, and when I learned to drive you weren't allowed to park on the pavement. It makes my fucking blood boil to see somebody in a wheelchair or with a pushchair having to walk around a car - into the road - just because some pointless little prick has decided that other road users aren't adept enough to drive past their precious parked vehicles without scraping them. Me? I make sure I bump into these wazzock's mirrors and I lose no sleep whatsoever if the metal bits on my jacket accidentally scratch paintwork as I have to squeeze past. There is honestly nothing I find more arrogant or annoying than these brainless buffoons demonstrating such a breathtaking level of fuckwittery and thinking that it's all completely fucking acceptable. If I had my way, I'd set fire to their bloody cars, but that would make it even harder for people with wheelchairs and pushchairs to get past. Therefore, I win on moral grounds.
Jeez. I never realised how much this did wind me up until I started writing about it!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 06 November, 2009, 02:23:15 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 06 November, 2009, 02:23:15 PM
And you managed to use the word "fuckwittery" in your rant. Award yourself a gold star :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 02:35:44 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 02:35:44 PM
It's my Word of the Moment, ever since I first encountered it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOqU4-zE5w
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 06 November, 2009, 02:38:11 PM
Post by: radiator on 06 November, 2009, 02:38:11 PM
People who park over two parking spaces so their precious car won't get touched or scraped by other cars (even when there is limited spaces).
I don't even drive and that pisses me off.
see also: People who think because they have kids and are thus provided with a special parking space at the supermarket, they might as well park their 4x4 shitmobile diagonally across a space.
I don't even drive and that pisses me off.
see also: People who think because they have kids and are thus provided with a special parking space at the supermarket, they might as well park their 4x4 shitmobile diagonally across a space.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 06 November, 2009, 06:23:21 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 06 November, 2009, 06:23:21 PM
Christmas - I saw my first advert for it in August, I was bored of it exactly 5 seconds later. I can't move for christmas stuff, all normal things have been moved or hidden in the store roomn and it's only november 6th >:(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 November, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 November, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
If you have children, I totally GET Christmas, what I don't get is why we must ALL be dragged, kicking and screaming into it. Now I understand why I'm "invited" on pain of death to my brother's for the day, mum's just died and he's worried I'd be alone. I wouldn't have been, but I understand. But a week later I learn that not only is my attendance required on pain of death, but that it's ACTUALLY going to occur at his sister-in-law's house and said woman is, not unpleasant, but very hard work. But she has a large house and all my brother's nieces and nephews will be there. Which i understand as you'd have to burn me to get me away from HIS little ones at that time of year.
However, an hour or two in the morning would be lovely. Unfortunately she's the type of woman to SCHEDULE EVERYTHING. Meaning my entire day has been organised FOR me from, gasp, 10 in the morning til 7 in the evening.
All I bloody want to do is sit down with the latest Case Files, a can of beer and a plate of sausage and mash while listening to Run DMC. Not going to happen.
None of this (or anyone else's troubles with Christmas) matter that much if it weren't for the overblown shite we get flung at us in shops and on telly from August. By the time it rolls around, it can't POSSIBLY live up to expectations. If it sort of snuck up on you, it'd be more fun.
However, an hour or two in the morning would be lovely. Unfortunately she's the type of woman to SCHEDULE EVERYTHING. Meaning my entire day has been organised FOR me from, gasp, 10 in the morning til 7 in the evening.
All I bloody want to do is sit down with the latest Case Files, a can of beer and a plate of sausage and mash while listening to Run DMC. Not going to happen.
None of this (or anyone else's troubles with Christmas) matter that much if it weren't for the overblown shite we get flung at us in shops and on telly from August. By the time it rolls around, it can't POSSIBLY live up to expectations. If it sort of snuck up on you, it'd be more fun.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JamesC on 06 November, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
Post by: JamesC on 06 November, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 05 November, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
Hammocks. They're not comfy at all. I turned my couch into one and there is no way I got a good nights kip.
The appeal of hammocks is that they are a staple of slapstick:
See also - Rakes on the lawn, men carrying sheets of glass, deckchairs, buckets of wallpaper paste etc.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 06 November, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 06 November, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
QuoteSee also - Rakes on the lawn, men carrying sheets of glass, deckchairs, buckets of wallpaper paste etc.
You forgot bannana skin on the ground!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 11:50:46 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 November, 2009, 11:50:46 PM
Wigs.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 07 November, 2009, 12:01:48 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 07 November, 2009, 12:01:48 AM
I blame Gilligans Island.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 07 November, 2009, 12:42:48 AM
Post by: Christov on 07 November, 2009, 12:42:48 AM
Horse riding. They smell, have horrible teeth, and will probably break your neck.
*awaits a joke about Northerners/Southerners/Midlanders/Irish/Welsh/Scottish*
*awaits a joke about Northerners/Southerners/Midlanders/Irish/Welsh/Scottish*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 November, 2009, 12:47:44 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 November, 2009, 12:47:44 AM
Quote from: Christov on 07 November, 2009, 12:42:48 AMSounds like this Manx girl I went out with. She thought I had a third leg.
Horse riding. They smell, have horrible teeth, and will probably break your neck.
*awaits a joke about Northerners/Southerners/Midlanders/Irish/Welsh/Scottish*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 07 November, 2009, 12:59:42 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 07 November, 2009, 12:59:42 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 07 November, 2009, 12:47:44 AM
Sounds like this Manx girl I went out with. She thought I had a third leg.
But you don't like to boast?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: Christov on 07 November, 2009, 12:42:48 AMNortherners will not willingly make a joke about Midlanders while Southerners exist. And we southerners presume these "Midlands" to be a fiction, invented by some Northerners to make themselves more socially acceptable to us by mere proximity.
*awaits a joke about Northerners/Southerners/Midlanders/Irish/Welsh/Scottish*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 07 November, 2009, 09:26:43 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 07 November, 2009, 09:26:43 AM
QuoteSounds like this Manx girl I went out with. She thought I had a third leg.
Well I do hear the Manx have very stubby tails.
QuoteAll I bloody want to do is sit down with the latest Case Files, a can of beer and a plate of sausage and mash while listening to Run DMC.
Ah, I was once like you. No problem dropping into the various septs for a bite and some present-debugging, but mainly I wanted to read the new Years Best New SF volume, scoff some trifle and have some fat lazy sex in front of The Great Escape. Alas, what I got was a micromanaged schedule of stress-filled attendances and obligations, separated by driving that precluded drinking. Very thoughtful of everyone to invite me, and obviously I was a curmudgeonly old bastard to object, but playing monopoly for four hours with people who take it seriously, and having to watch endless episodes of people dying in Eastenders, when I could be tucked up with a warm lady and a Star Wars boxset, well....
My solution (prior to drawing the trump card of First Child, and thus being allowed to set our own terms) was voluntary work until the early afternoon. Not only did it make me feel vaguely virtuous, but gave me an excuse to bow out of any particularly onerous sitting around in the houses of virtual strangers.
All different now that my mind has been overthrow by sprogdom. I'm a Christmas evangelist (atheist variety), at least once November 1st rolls around. The Gingerbread Lattes are back at Starbucks, I'm going to see my niece for the first time, I have a request in for Casefiles 13 and 14, and all's right with the world (as long as nobody minds homemade Christmas presents this year).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
Thanks TordelBack.
Hmmmmmmm. Voluntary work you say? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. What a bloody good idea. I will give that some serious consideration.
And thanks for the image of "fat lazy sex in front of "The Great Escape"" mate. That's great. No, no. REALLY.
Hmmmmmmm. Voluntary work you say? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. What a bloody good idea. I will give that some serious consideration.
And thanks for the image of "fat lazy sex in front of "The Great Escape"" mate. That's great. No, no. REALLY.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 07 November, 2009, 01:02:29 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 07 November, 2009, 01:02:29 PM
QuoteAnd thanks for the image of "fat lazy sex in front of "The Great Escape"" mate.
Sadly 'tis but a distant memory, now replaced by furtive rutting in the 17 minutes in any 24 hours period when both children are asleep simultaneously.
See, I knew you'd appreciate the first image more if you only knew the alternative.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 04:52:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 November, 2009, 04:52:45 PM
You're right. I can only presume that it's the best 15 minutes of foreplay imaginable, as i can't imagine how the act of congress takes you so long otherwise (it's never taken me longer than 90 seconds). Now, all i need is to discover this elusive magic known as "foreplay" for myself and maybe i'll take longer than the magic 2 minutes! Here's hoping...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2009, 10:41:13 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2009, 10:41:13 PM
Xbloodyfactoer,whatisthefeckinpoint!!! Breath
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 01:16:30 AM
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 01:16:30 AM
This entire page is giving me images in my head that I'd prefer were not there.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 08 November, 2009, 01:24:14 AM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 08 November, 2009, 01:24:14 AM
Ok, stop. Too much detail. I don't think we need to know if anyone is a one pump chump.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 08 November, 2009, 08:07:37 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 08 November, 2009, 08:07:37 PM
...Socks with sandles. I know the Romans went down this questionable fashion cul-de-sac, but they ate monkey cocks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
While I don't eat monkey cocks I do, through shear laziness often have the socks and sandles thing in common with the Romans. Now I know this is a bad thing and I'd never do it for more than say 10 minutes BUT if I'm just popping to the shop down the road, putting the bins out or say hanging out the washing its so much easier just to slip into those sandles and hope no one notices.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 08 November, 2009, 08:19:47 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 08 November, 2009, 08:19:47 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
and hope no one notices.
Oops.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 November, 2009, 08:45:19 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 November, 2009, 08:45:19 PM
And then tell the internet.....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 08 November, 2009, 08:19:47 PMQuote from: Colin_YNWA on 08 November, 2009, 08:18:13 PM
and hope no one notices.
Oops.
Arh yeah but you guys won't tell anyone else now will ya...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 08 November, 2009, 10:26:28 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 08 November, 2009, 10:26:28 PM
I dont see the appeal of broadsheet music/album reviews and i would *never* buy or listem to music upon their recommendation .
The new Jay Z album is "inspirational" for example ?
[no laughing smily available]
Not to me its not and i dislike the writers of these reviews as they somehow think that they are arbiters of taste when all it is is subjective opinion or is it ?
They might be sucking corporate cock by endorsing Jay Z.
Stupid Kool-Aid rubbish just makes me laugh.
The new Jay Z album is "inspirational" for example ?
[no laughing smily available]
Not to me its not and i dislike the writers of these reviews as they somehow think that they are arbiters of taste when all it is is subjective opinion or is it ?
They might be sucking corporate cock by endorsing Jay Z.
Stupid Kool-Aid rubbish just makes me laugh.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 10:36:00 PM
This Jay Zed character, is he aware he has an incomplete last name?
Did his parents not have time to fill out the birth certificate properly?
Did his parents not have time to fill out the birth certificate properly?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 08 November, 2009, 10:39:17 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 08 November, 2009, 10:39:17 PM
Going to quickly butt in here with Gavin and Stacey.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 11:36:39 PM
Post by: Christov on 08 November, 2009, 11:36:39 PM
I cannot agree more.
If Little Britain is comedy for the lowest common denominator, Gavin and Stacey is comedy for the second lowest common denominator.
If Little Britain is comedy for the lowest common denominator, Gavin and Stacey is comedy for the second lowest common denominator.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 09 November, 2009, 02:01:20 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 09 November, 2009, 02:01:20 AM
Yeah, eh, I didn't find it funny, felt quite secular for not doing so. Comedy drama I could live with. But awarded comedy? No, no, no, where has my funny bone gone? Is my humour too aggressive? Too left field? Am I to wander lonely as a poet with a dwarfed sense of humour? Or is it just mundane rubbish which elicits the occasional forced chuckle for fear of losing my slippery place in society? In the end, it, is the one that preaches wants and offers to the masses its perspective as transparent as a poker. com advert. Find us funny"-it says- " and you too can aspire to the cleaner more, modern mode of conduct, so, so many in front of the other masses, who cannot quantify the measure of the passing present and oncoming future. Utter rubbish, all of what I just posted. I may just send it into BBC 3.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 09 November, 2009, 08:52:27 AM
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 09 November, 2009, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: Krombasher on 08 November, 2009, 10:39:17 PM
Going to quickly butt in here with Gavin and Stacey.
Well, I'm really not that bad a guy once you get to know me, as for Stacey, she dose do a great podcast.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 November, 2009, 09:01:12 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 November, 2009, 09:01:12 AM
No Gav, we like you and Stacey well enough, it's this programme based on your exploits we don't get. Terry and June for the noughties and just as much of a laughter desert.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 09 November, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 09 November, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
You'll just wait for the Hi-Ex special.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 November, 2009, 10:23:47 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 November, 2009, 10:23:47 AM
Come on people, Gavin & Stacey is "warm".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 09 November, 2009, 11:04:12 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 09 November, 2009, 11:04:12 AM
Like fish can be "warm "? I liked Terry and June....when I was 5. Maybe its more appreciated by the kids. He so why is it not on a prime time slot?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 09 November, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 09 November, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
I think The Office was tedious and completely unfunny.
I have never liked anything Ricky Gervais has done. His stand-up routines were terrible, and his films are just like the same old rubbish everyone else is churning out.
I have never liked anything Ricky Gervais has done. His stand-up routines were terrible, and his films are just like the same old rubbish everyone else is churning out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 09 November, 2009, 08:11:49 PM
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 09 November, 2009, 08:11:49 PM
Pshaw! Gavin and Stacey is wonderful. Just because it doesn't feature stompy robots and explosions, doesn't mean it can't still be funny.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 November, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 November, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 09 November, 2009, 08:08:41 PMI thought it was clever and horrendously true but not funny (apart from the stapler in the jelly) and I didn't enjoy watching it. I've never liked that type of excruciating comedy of embarassment like Frank Spencer and Fawlty Towers. It's really silly things like The Mighty Boosh that make me laugh. And swearing.
I think The Office was tedious and completely unfunny.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 November, 2009, 10:07:02 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 09 November, 2009, 10:07:02 PM
Tattoos.
(or is it tatoos*?)
* No, not the irish crisps.
(or is it tatoos*?)
* No, not the irish crisps.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 09 November, 2009, 10:11:06 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 09 November, 2009, 10:11:06 PM
The difference between people with tattoo's and those without is that the one's with don't give a shit if you have got one or not.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 November, 2009, 10:27:24 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 November, 2009, 10:27:24 PM
I don't give a shit if someone's got a tat personally. Indeed, some of then can be beautiful, like any form of art. But i don't like the look of them, i find then ugly (no matter how beautifuly drawn) and don't understand the motivation to have one - but of course, i'd never try to tell anyone what they can do with their own skin. I'd never knowingly date a girl with tattoos. X
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 November, 2009, 10:44:57 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 November, 2009, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 November, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
I've never liked that type of excruciating comedy of embarassment like Frank Spencer and Fawlty Towers. It's really silly things like The Mighty Boosh that make me laugh. And swearing.
Aww, but Fawtly Towers was brilliant. It wasn't just about the cringe-making antics of Basil Fawlty. It had a really good cast. There's Polly's dry wit, Sybil's superior common sense and the superb elderly guests, especially the Major and Miss Tibbs in the episode with the dead body. You could also occasionally see things from Basil's point of view and laugh at the jokes he cracked at his guests', employees' and wife's expense.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 10 November, 2009, 12:49:24 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 10 November, 2009, 12:49:24 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 November, 2009, 10:44:57 PMYeah there's more to Fawlty Towers and there's a lot about it that is funny, but it's the way that cringeworthy stuff makes me feel uncomfortable rather than entertained that stops me from loving it the way other people do.Quote from: The Cosh on 09 November, 2009, 08:59:12 PMAww, but Fawtly Towers was brilliant. It wasn't just about the cringe-making antics of Basil Fawlty. It had a really good cast. There's Polly's dry wit, Sybil's superior common sense and the superb elderly guests, especially the Major and Miss Tibbs in the episode with the dead body. You could also occasionally see things from Basil's point of view and laugh at the jokes he cracked at his guests', employees' and wife's expense.
I've never liked that type of excruciating comedy of embarassment like Frank Spencer and Fawlty Towers. It's really silly things like The Mighty Boosh that make me laugh. And swearing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:57:08 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:57:08 AM
Why are two mutant piglets apparently from X-Factor infesting every bloody newspaper I open? I mean I enjoyed seeing the original X-Men back together as much as the next man, but this has surely drifted a long way from its Core Concept.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 09:05:28 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 09:05:28 AM
Good point TordelBack.
Some of Prof X's new students are training to fight psychic threats.... THIS should explain all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKiW2W1Yt8s
Don't panic, those of you who don't normally watch this sort of thing. You only need to hang on for the first 40 seconds or so before you'll understand why everyone's talking about them....
Some of Prof X's new students are training to fight psychic threats.... THIS should explain all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKiW2W1Yt8s
Don't panic, those of you who don't normally watch this sort of thing. You only need to hang on for the first 40 seconds or so before you'll understand why everyone's talking about them....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 09:18:00 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 09:18:00 AM
I dont see the appeal of all these interfering sanctimonious little control freaks like Fake lord Smith of Finsbury telling me i need to have a CO2 allowance.THese types could do me and the planet a favor by shutting their mouths and stopping breathing until they died which would cut down on CO2.
Can i have a bullshit allowance as well ?
Can i have a bullshit allowance as well ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
QuoteTHIS should explain all.
Ah, I see. Wow, Jamie Madrox has really let himself go.
I don't want to sound like Data, Doomlord or D'elenn (waht's with all the Ds?) or anything, but do humans watch this for... fun?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 09:43:31 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 09:43:31 AM
I watch it for laughs.
Poor Jamie. Finally, a superhero reference, and a Marvel one at that, that's fairly obscure that I actually GET! Surely I've just fulfilled a prophesy or something? These MUST be the last days....
Poor Jamie. Finally, a superhero reference, and a Marvel one at that, that's fairly obscure that I actually GET! Surely I've just fulfilled a prophesy or something? These MUST be the last days....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 10:54:02 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 09:33:45 AMQuoteTHIS should explain all.
Ah, I see. Wow, Jamie Madrox has really let himself go.
I don't want to sound like Data, Doomlord or D'elenn (waht's with all the Ds?) or anything, but do humans watch this for... fun?
Oh yes.....
Lots and lots of them watch it for fun.It serves its purpose of entertaining the dumbed down shallow proletariat who have no understanding or interest in anything meaningful in life.
Bread and circuses for the sheep.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
I don't see the appeal of Gordon Ramsey - a rude cnut if you ask me, not to mention a peddlar of microwave ready meals masquarading as haute cuisine
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:22:45 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:22:45 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 10:54:02 AMI object to being categorised as a cultureless "sheep" for finding morons making twats of themselves funny. Seriously.
Lots and lots of them watch it for fun.It serves its purpose of entertaining the dumbed down shallow proletariat who have no understanding or interest in anything meaningful in life.
Bread and circuses for the sheep.
Ramsey is a moron. My sources inform me that the food at his restaurants, however, is divine. So perhaps just removing his face & vocal cords is in order?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
QuoteRamsey is a moron. My sources inform me that the food at his restaurants, however, is divine. So perhaps just removing his face & vocal cords is in order?
I too have sources who, when sent to interview him for a magazine article, described him as 'obnoxious and rude' and his food 'barely adequate and definately NOT worth the money'
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:29:02 AM
No dinner is worth what these folks ask. But if the jury is so confused about the merits of his food, maybe we should just make a pie out of him.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:29:53 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 11:29:53 AM
A pie with great big wrinkles in the pastry and a sour, congealed filling inside - ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
Mmmmmmmmm, the best meal he's ever made. *om-nom-nom-nom-nom*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 November, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 November, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 09 November, 2009, 10:11:06 PM
The difference between people with tattoo's and those without is that the one's with don't give a shit if you have got one or not.
V
To be fair to Tips, this thread is for not getting the point of, not 'not giving a shit about'.
I don't have any myself, but I know a lady who has and I like them a lot.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 11:22:45 AMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 10:54:02 AMI object to being categorised as a cultureless "sheep" for finding morons making twats of themselves funny. Seriously.
Lots and lots of them watch it for fun.It serves its purpose of entertaining the dumbed down shallow proletariat who have no understanding or interest in anything meaningful in life.
Bread and circuses for the sheep.
Well i apologise [for having an opinion] but i cant generalise and make allowances for yourself at the same time but i just hate that whole X factor culture.
Try not to take things personally.
I have no interest in it myself but i object to this stuff being splashed over all the news media day in day out as if it is somehow newsworthy when it damn well is not.Thats a failure of media pandering to a lowest common denominator instead of doing its job of informing and educating which it hardly does anyway.
Its trivia and it should be kept in its place in the pages of Heat magazine and that type of thing where it belongs because i object to hearing about them and seeing pictures of them as if to presume i should be interested in it when i am not.You have to cut out all exposure to media just to get away from a pair of Vanilla Ice impersonators who shouldnt even be there.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
I'm not claiming it's news for a second and I loathe these non-stories as much as you. Nor am I claiming any of the poor saps involved are in any way talented. They aren't. Talent rises to the top one way or another - but the TRULY talented will work for it 24/7. By gigging, building a following, getting a deal, writing, recording, touring, repeat as desired.
Bob Dylan, Aretha Franklin, Mozart, Elvis, all the Bachs and Grandmaster Flash and even Rick Astley all somehow managed to get into the music business through talent and hard work. No premium rate phone lines or televised auditions were required. The truly talented will get always get work - REAL, LONG TERM WORK - in the business regardless of how. Nobody from these shows has yet proven to be anything other than a flash in the pan with dubious merits. Sorry.
I actually find the half-decent singers to be quite tragic, as they think they're going to be stars, but they're not. They're just going to be briefly FAMOUS (not the same thing as being a successful and aclaimed professional musician at ALL) before being dropped once their flame has faded. I've met so many one-hit wonders and they all have a look in their eyes. It's very sad.
The programme PRETENDS it's about talent. It isn't. It's about personalities, sob stories and ridiculous people like The Twin Vanillas who don't realise they're only in it because they're funny. I feel no guilt in laughing at their stupidity. I only regret the callous way the hopes and dreams of otherwise mediocre musicians are used by the television industry, there's quite enough of THAT going on in the music business.
The papers and news media in general long ago gave up their pretentions to real, pure "journalism" - I'd trace this back to the launch of The Sun and it's immitators. It's all been downhill from there. Although there are still some real journalists, they are invariably subjected to the filters and attitudes of misguided editors who seem to worry about if something will "sell" rather than "is it newsworthy?". Once upon a time, being newsworthy and principaled was enough to sell. I still think it is, but we're going to have a hard job convincing a whole generation of newspeople of this.
But there I go again, talking about things I know little about with authority. I'll stick to comics and music in future.
Bob Dylan, Aretha Franklin, Mozart, Elvis, all the Bachs and Grandmaster Flash and even Rick Astley all somehow managed to get into the music business through talent and hard work. No premium rate phone lines or televised auditions were required. The truly talented will get always get work - REAL, LONG TERM WORK - in the business regardless of how. Nobody from these shows has yet proven to be anything other than a flash in the pan with dubious merits. Sorry.
I actually find the half-decent singers to be quite tragic, as they think they're going to be stars, but they're not. They're just going to be briefly FAMOUS (not the same thing as being a successful and aclaimed professional musician at ALL) before being dropped once their flame has faded. I've met so many one-hit wonders and they all have a look in their eyes. It's very sad.
The programme PRETENDS it's about talent. It isn't. It's about personalities, sob stories and ridiculous people like The Twin Vanillas who don't realise they're only in it because they're funny. I feel no guilt in laughing at their stupidity. I only regret the callous way the hopes and dreams of otherwise mediocre musicians are used by the television industry, there's quite enough of THAT going on in the music business.
The papers and news media in general long ago gave up their pretentions to real, pure "journalism" - I'd trace this back to the launch of The Sun and it's immitators. It's all been downhill from there. Although there are still some real journalists, they are invariably subjected to the filters and attitudes of misguided editors who seem to worry about if something will "sell" rather than "is it newsworthy?". Once upon a time, being newsworthy and principaled was enough to sell. I still think it is, but we're going to have a hard job convincing a whole generation of newspeople of this.
But there I go again, talking about things I know little about with authority. I'll stick to comics and music in future.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
There are a few jounos on here, be interesting to hear their thoughts on that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
Nobody from these shows has yet proven to be anything other than a flash in the pan with dubious merits. Sorry.
Lets hope it stays that way.
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
I actually find the half-decent singers to be quite tragic, as they think they're going to be stars, but they're not. They're just going to be briefly FAMOUS (not the same thing as being a successful and aclaimed professional musician at ALL) before being dropped once their flame has faded. I've met so many one-hit wonders and they all have a look in their eyes. It's very sad.
Lets hope it stays that way as well.
Lets all give them some Kleenex.
I dont feel sorry for any of them as they are all deluded to even think they deserve recognition and fame and its their own stupid fault for being shallow and buying into celebrity culture and for thinking that they have some innate right to be famous and for looking for an easy way to get it when in reality its like the kind of low level low class entertainment that you would find in a Butlins holiday camp not that i would know about that from experience.
Its just cheap throwaway entertainment if you enjoy that kind of thing.
"Oh look she/he can sing a bit and do some dance moves...Amazing !!"
All i think is so what ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 November, 2009, 05:56:17 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 November, 2009, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
Nobody from these shows has yet proven to be anything other than a flash in the pan with dubious merits. Sorry.
Of course, there is a certain band called Girls Aloud that did rather well for themselves...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Not a flash in the pan, but dubious merits.
And it gave us hair-advertising, racist-violence-employing Cheryl Cole. You can funting well KEEP her. Awful. And is she on the artistic level of the greats?
No. Throwaway pop music. And seeing as I know one of the studio engineers on their early recording, I know numerous stories about how bad/stupid/untalented they are that I can't possibly divulge.
But I will say this. FOUR AUTOTUNES. ON EACH VOCAL.
Honest.
And she has the temerity to tell people their pitch is out? A friend with perfect pitch can't even hear their records as even WITH all that tech, they're still out of tune.
And it gave us hair-advertising, racist-violence-employing Cheryl Cole. You can funting well KEEP her. Awful. And is she on the artistic level of the greats?
No. Throwaway pop music. And seeing as I know one of the studio engineers on their early recording, I know numerous stories about how bad/stupid/untalented they are that I can't possibly divulge.
But I will say this. FOUR AUTOTUNES. ON EACH VOCAL.
Honest.
And she has the temerity to tell people their pitch is out? A friend with perfect pitch can't even hear their records as even WITH all that tech, they're still out of tune.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 November, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 November, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
I was just being facetious. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 06:45:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 06:45:31 PM
I thought so.
Still, any opportunity to slag the evil ones....
Still, any opportunity to slag the evil ones....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JamesC on 10 November, 2009, 08:01:09 PM
Post by: JamesC on 10 November, 2009, 08:01:09 PM
I quite like Girls Aloud. I know they're not serious artists but they're a good pop act.
I don't think it really matters if their singing's a bit crap - so was Bananarama's. There's a long tradition of girl groups with crap singing voices!
As for Cheryl Cole and her racist violence, I'd like to think that after a few years removal from the relatively small horizons of living on some geordie council estate she may have broadend her view a little bit and realised the error of her ways. She certainly doesn't come accross as a bigot and hopefully it's because she no longer is.
I don't think it really matters if their singing's a bit crap - so was Bananarama's. There's a long tradition of girl groups with crap singing voices!
As for Cheryl Cole and her racist violence, I'd like to think that after a few years removal from the relatively small horizons of living on some geordie council estate she may have broadend her view a little bit and realised the error of her ways. She certainly doesn't come accross as a bigot and hopefully it's because she no longer is.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
QuoteI quite like Girls Aloud.
Admit it, you just want to roll about with them all in a giant tub of Marmite, even the odd looking one. I know I do. Especially that Cheryl.
It's 8 o'clock and I'm still at work, and frankly a bevy (official collective noun) of nude popstars in a savoury dip sounds like a massive improvement.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 10 November, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 10 November, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
There is such a thing as too much marmite :o. I'd go with honey or Bailey's. In an alternate universe this has already happened. Lucky girls.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 10 November, 2009, 08:18:08 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 10 November, 2009, 08:18:08 PM
QuoteAs for Cheryl Cole and her racist violence
She was actually found not guilty on the racism front! Anyhow, She'd be a pretty useless racist married to Ashley Cole!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:33:12 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 10 November, 2009, 08:33:12 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 10 November, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
I'd go with honey or Bailey's. In an alternate universe this has already happened.
Sadly it was one of the many alternate universes in which the LHC worked successfully, and the Earth was consumed before the Baileys/Marmite taste test could be resolved. Ah well, at least we have the (fictional) memories.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 08:44:07 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 08:44:07 PM
Found "not guilty" but she DID not deny doing what she did OR saying what she said. Good lawyers.
I find it odd that the British public have seemingly completely forgotten about that incident.
I find it odd that the British public have seemingly completely forgotten about that incident.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2009, 08:46:35 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2009, 08:46:35 PM
I never, she'll be a racist till the day she dies to me!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 10 November, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 November, 2009, 08:46:35 PM
I never, she'll be a racist till the day she dies to me!
Even if, as Grazia magazine declared, 'she has lovely shiney hair and we want to play with her'. Nick Griffin must look like an extra in a timotei advert...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 03:10:32 AM
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 03:10:32 AM
I am so grieved that there was mention of Girls Aloud and I couldn't get to this thread sooner.
Speaking with some small authority (as a chap whot has studied music and knows a fair turn when he hears it) that group is utterly talentless. I'd never dare be so blunt usually, but in this case, the facts are compelling.
Caught this bunch singing live on TV once - quite by accident (honest!) and I was actually struck speechless by their dire performance skills. They can't keep time. They can't sing in tune. They can't stay in key.
As plastic pop stars and saleable product, they might be just fine. But they have no ability as vocalists, individually or as a group. Fact.
Anybody who wants to argue with my classically trained ears is welcome to thumb wrestle with me over it.
[brandishes thumbs like deadly weapons]
Speaking with some small authority (as a chap whot has studied music and knows a fair turn when he hears it) that group is utterly talentless. I'd never dare be so blunt usually, but in this case, the facts are compelling.
Caught this bunch singing live on TV once - quite by accident (honest!) and I was actually struck speechless by their dire performance skills. They can't keep time. They can't sing in tune. They can't stay in key.
As plastic pop stars and saleable product, they might be just fine. But they have no ability as vocalists, individually or as a group. Fact.
Anybody who wants to argue with my classically trained ears is welcome to thumb wrestle with me over it.
[brandishes thumbs like deadly weapons]
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JamesC on 11 November, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
Post by: JamesC on 11 November, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 03:10:32 AM
As plastic pop stars and saleable product, they might be just fine.
Which is surely the point?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 11 November, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 11 November, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
QuoteBut they have no ability as vocalists, individually or as a group. Fact.
Wait, they're supposed to be singers? I thought they were pretty things that gyrated vaguely to other peoples catchy tunes, with, as Wild Seven reminds us, very shiny hair.
I inadvertently saw them live once, just after whatever pop-quiz it was they won. I stand by my estimation of their talents.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 11 November, 2009, 10:16:57 AM
Post by: Satanist on 11 November, 2009, 10:16:57 AM
I saw the Spice Girls on kids Tv just before they made it famous with their first single. It was so bad I thought thank fuck thats the last I ever see of that tripe. Shows what I know about pop.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 11 November, 2009, 10:24:54 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 11 November, 2009, 10:24:54 AM
Boyzones debut springs to mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2ZKhV6eKc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2ZKhV6eKc
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 11 November, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
Wait, they're supposed to be singers? I thought they were pretty things that gyrated vaguely to other peoples catchy tunes, with, as Wild Seven reminds us, very shiny hair.
Astoundingly, yes!
You can't fault their backing tracks. Boring as hell, maybe (at least to my ears) but competently done, tightly produced stuff.
But the girls... yikes! What is Cheryl doing on a 'talent' show panel when she and her colleagues badly need some vocal coaching themselves? :o
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 11 November, 2009, 09:54:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 11 November, 2009, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 06:41:55 PMQuote from: TordelBack on 11 November, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
Wait, they're supposed to be singers? I thought they were pretty things that gyrated vaguely to other peoples catchy tunes, with, as Wild Seven reminds us, very shiny hair.
Astoundingly, yes!
You can't fault their backing tracks. Boring as hell, maybe (at least to my ears) but competently done, tightly produced stuff.
But the girls... yikes! What is Cheryl doing on a 'talent' show panel when she and her colleagues badly need some vocal coaching themselves? :o
They are a totally manufactured slickly marketed product that has no intrinsic value whatsoever.
But really its just Pop and sometimes i really like Pop music but obviously i pick and choose.For example they did a single that was co written by the Pet Shop Boys which i thought was alright.
They are not my type of girls though as i am not that mad on that kind of female stereotype that you see in lads magazines like Nuts.
I am not ashamed of liking Pop instead of saying i listen to Can or King Tubby or Throbbing Gristle and trying to be "cool"and all that rubbish.
Bananarama are or were good singers because they never had any problem pitching.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 11 November, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 11 November, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
Exactly. There are no shortage of good pop acts who can pitch, keep time and stay in keyw hile singing songs you can hum and tap your feet to. That's the point of pop music after all. That's why so many of us play instruments and sing.
Bananarama are fine example. Girls Aloud.... aren't.
Bananarama are fine example. Girls Aloud.... aren't.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
Post by: HdE on 11 November, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
Well said Mike. You're bang on the money there, in my opinion.
But really Peter, I'd say if you enjoy what they do, and it puts a smile on yer face, that's all well 'n' good, innit? :)
But really Peter, I'd say if you enjoy what they do, and it puts a smile on yer face, that's all well 'n' good, innit? :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
I exactly understand the appeal of GIRLS ALOUD. You can say bad things about them, all probably true, but they do exactly what they say on the can. But I can see how some of you would like to shun any appearance they make. I've certainly thought about shunning them. But in the end, catchy pop won me over. (It took them ages to release a soppy ballad - something taht has to be applauded).
I don't understand the appeal of... X-FACTOR. I don't think Cheryl is meant to be on the panel as an expert other than in the field of "I've been through this" but I don't watch. It would be odd to hear her talk about pitch and tone and stuff though.
I don't understand the appeal of... not thinking that someone can change themselves to make themselves a better person. I see examples of it quite often and would like to think that say, someone who was once a racist can learn to be, like, not a racist.
I don't understand the appeal of... PETS. At all. Take take take and give nothing back. But I genuinely think that I am the only person in the country that thinks this way.
I don't understand the appeal of... X-FACTOR. I don't think Cheryl is meant to be on the panel as an expert other than in the field of "I've been through this" but I don't watch. It would be odd to hear her talk about pitch and tone and stuff though.
I don't understand the appeal of... not thinking that someone can change themselves to make themselves a better person. I see examples of it quite often and would like to think that say, someone who was once a racist can learn to be, like, not a racist.
I don't understand the appeal of... PETS. At all. Take take take and give nothing back. But I genuinely think that I am the only person in the country that thinks this way.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 November, 2009, 10:54:41 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 November, 2009, 10:54:41 PM
A few of you seem to have been dipping your spectacles in that tin of rose-coloured dye again. Bananarama were shit when we were kids, Girls Aloud are shit for a new generation of kids. The real stars of chart pop from a musical point of view are - and pretty much always have been - the producers. From Phil Spector and Berry Gordy through Trevor Horn to Timbaland and Xenomania, not much has really changed: faceless boffins and svengalis make the tunes and the money while pretty boys and girls get to live out a dream for a few years before being tossed on the scrapheap. The real trick that's been perpetrated by Pop Idol and so on is to find a way of making money out of the only part of the process which record companies traditionally pay for.
And any attempt to introduce objective notions of musical quality into a discussion of pop music vocalists is horseshit. Technique makes a difference, but far too much of what makes something enjoyable is down to mood, feel and subjective taste. For example, Joan Baez is demonstrably a "better" singer than Bob Dylan yet, if you listen to them singing similar material (better still, the same song) it's his voice and the emotion he brings to it that sounds right.
Finally, what is the intrinsic value of any music beyond the pleasure it can bring?
And any attempt to introduce objective notions of musical quality into a discussion of pop music vocalists is horseshit. Technique makes a difference, but far too much of what makes something enjoyable is down to mood, feel and subjective taste. For example, Joan Baez is demonstrably a "better" singer than Bob Dylan yet, if you listen to them singing similar material (better still, the same song) it's his voice and the emotion he brings to it that sounds right.
Finally, what is the intrinsic value of any music beyond the pleasure it can bring?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
I dunno. I was in tears tonight listening to the GET IT ON show on Radio Scotland with all of teh songs being related to the Armistice and War and soldiers and sacrfice.
There's some other stuff going on in my life at the moment that undoubtedly contributed but the Dixie Chicks TRAVELLING SOLDIER, AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATHILDA and even Rolf Harris TWO LITTLE BOYS and Andy Stewart A SCOTTISH SOLDIER had me blubbing.
That wasn't about enjoyment just emotional reaction to the messags.
(Then I got home and shunned over
There's some other stuff going on in my life at the moment that undoubtedly contributed but the Dixie Chicks TRAVELLING SOLDIER, AND THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATHILDA and even Rolf Harris TWO LITTLE BOYS and Andy Stewart A SCOTTISH SOLDIER had me blubbing.
That wasn't about enjoyment just emotional reaction to the messags.
(Then I got home and shunned over
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 November, 2009, 11:06:48 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 November, 2009, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 11:01:12 PMFair play, but isn't the emotional reaction something you enjoy while the emotion itself isn't necessarily happiness. I suppose that's what I was getting at rather than simply pleasure. It was more a response to Mr Wolf's comment earlier.
That wasn't about enjoyment just emotional reaction to the messages.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 11 November, 2009, 09:54:54 PMI'm quite a one for No Man's Land myself.
They are a totally manufactured slickly marketed product that has no intrinsic value whatsoever.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 11 November, 2009, 11:15:04 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 11 November, 2009, 11:15:04 PM
My sister was on X-Factor this year cos her friends needed someone pretty in their band. She was on telly and everything. She knew it was fake beforehand but it turns out it's really fake.
Annoyingly enough after years of haughty dismissals my mum now is obsessed. This comes years after I got bored of the show. (BTW you should see this statement as being inversely equivalent to Nietzsche's appreciation for the Jesuit's scholarly disposition.)
Annoyingly enough after years of haughty dismissals my mum now is obsessed. This comes years after I got bored of the show. (BTW you should see this statement as being inversely equivalent to Nietzsche's appreciation for the Jesuit's scholarly disposition.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
Its more a case of Phil Spector and Berry Gordy and to a certain extent Trevor Horn wouldnt have been stars in their own right without all those great singers and artists because they werent capable of being stars performing or singing their own material.
They werent all just muppets who could sing a bit.
I dont see the point in being arrogant or dismissive of Pop because when its done well its genius and is a valid genre the same as any other is which is what i was getting at earlier by certain types of people who are too self conscious and obsessed with appearing to be cool or with it to admit that they like pop songs.
I have loads of 80s pop in my music collection and i still enjoy listening to it so there are no rose colored glasses involved in the same way that i still enjoy and still highly rate strips that i read in 2000ad nearly 30 years ago.
They werent all just muppets who could sing a bit.
I dont see the point in being arrogant or dismissive of Pop because when its done well its genius and is a valid genre the same as any other is which is what i was getting at earlier by certain types of people who are too self conscious and obsessed with appearing to be cool or with it to admit that they like pop songs.
I have loads of 80s pop in my music collection and i still enjoy listening to it so there are no rose colored glasses involved in the same way that i still enjoy and still highly rate strips that i read in 2000ad nearly 30 years ago.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 12 November, 2009, 12:44:36 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 12 November, 2009, 12:44:36 AM
Typing "HA HA HA HA" ad infinitum on internet chat rooms.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 01:03:36 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 01:03:36 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 10 November, 2009, 08:44:07 PM
Found "not guilty" but she DID not deny doing what she did OR saying what she said. Good lawyers.
I find it odd that the British public have seemingly completely forgotten about that incident.
Thats BS
Can you link to an article that can shed some more light on this ?
She was cleared by jury and anyway the allegation of racism specifically was suspect because the gutter press were involved and possibly primed the prosecution to change their story.
I also dont have any respect for the self serving sanctimonious hypocrites at the Sunday Mirror who lecture someone else and tell them how to act.A paper with NO morality lectures someone else about morality.[no laughing smiley available]
TOTAL Hypocrisy.
I am not buying it that she is/was a racist.
Stop and imagine yourself in that position where you are slandered for something that you didnt do but sadly some buy into this BS but i dont.I forgot about about it simply because i have my mind focussed on more important things.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
I don't understand the appeal of... not thinking that someone can change themselves to make themselves a better person. I see examples of it quite often and would like to think that say, someone who was once a racist can learn to be, like, not a racist.
I wholeheartedly endorse this comment and this is from someone who is not a racist but who has said the odd racist comment in the past.I wont give the details out just so others can make slanderous comments and make judgements about my character without knowing the facts or the context of the comments.
See if i care and the very fact i have typed this proves i dont.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 November, 2009, 01:46:39 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 November, 2009, 01:46:39 AM
Sorry Peter, i don't keep a folder of news articles related to Girls Aloud. I seem to remember she said things in court but it was a hell of a while ago.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 01:59:07 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 November, 2009, 01:59:07 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 12 November, 2009, 01:46:39 AM
Sorry Peter, i don't keep a folder of news articles related to Girls Aloud. I seem to remember she said things in court but it was a hell of a while ago.
Its OK 8)
I just wanted to make a point.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 12 November, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
Post by: Noisybast on 12 November, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
I don't understand the appeal of... PETS. At all. Take take take and give nothing back. But I genuinely think that I am the only person in the country that thinks this way.
No, I'm not one for domestic animals either. Mind you, I'm allergic to most of 'em, so that probably has a lot to do with it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
QuoteFound "not guilty" but she DID not deny doing what she did OR saying what she said. Good lawyers
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I thought that was a concept held dear by people on this messageboard. Particularly when related to The Suns recent treatment of a 2000ad creator. It should't just apply to people you actually like!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 04:55:02 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 04:55:02 PM
Depends on how good your lawyer is. A certain footballer managed to get away with punching someone (on video) because he thought that he was going to hit him.
I'm sure you know who I mean.
I'm sure you know who I mean.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
And Cheryl Cole was still found guilty of the assault bit, just not the racism bit. Which means she's NOT a racist. But IS a violent scumbag. Not THAT much better, is it?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:21:09 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:21:09 PM
QuoteAnd Cheryl Cole was still found guilty of the assault bit, just not the racism bit. Which means she's NOT a racist. But IS a violent scumbag. Not THAT much better, is it?
So a young girl from Newcastle whose life dramatically changes almost overnight makes a mistake about 10 years ago and lashes out at somebody which results in a court case. This has happened ONCE in her 30 odd years on the planet. As a result of this she should always be branded "a voilent scumbag"? :o I think I'd prefer Dredds style of justice!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
I'd rather just deal with/admire people who've NEVER been violent.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 05:30:59 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 05:30:59 PM
I have been involved in violence in the past but only in self defence after being on the receiving end of it.
Does that mean i am a "violent scumbag" ?
Does that mean i am a "violent scumbag" ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:32:16 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:32:16 PM
Not a big fan of Muhammad Ali then?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:33:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:33:49 PM
No. I'm not as it happens.
Self defense is, of course, fair enough.
Self defense is, of course, fair enough.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:51:08 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:51:08 PM
QuoteNo. I'm not as it happens.
Self defense is, of course, fair enough.
Still a bit extreme though don't you think? I remember reading in the Bible the story of Jesus visting Jerusalem during the Passover and getting very angry with the corruption that he saw. So angry in fact that he found some chord and made some fancy knots with it and then proceeded to run around and whip all the people making money! I'm not remotely religious myself and cannot admire people or stories I don't believe in but I'd assume the majority of Christians would take issue with Jesus being " a voilent scumbag"!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:55:40 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:55:40 PM
Well, I wouldn't have said this had you not brought it up but.... I'm not a fan of Jesus either (or his followers). Christians can (and invariably do) take issue with whatever they like.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 15 November, 2009, 05:56:36 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 15 November, 2009, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I thought that was a concept held dear by people on this messageboard. Particularly when related to The Suns recent treatment of a 2000ad creator. It should't just apply to people you actually like!
Bravo Sir, well said.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:59:32 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:59:32 PM
QuoteChristians can (and invariably do) take issue with whatever they like.
Thats an incredibly predjudice view ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:33:49 PM
No. I'm not as it happens.
Self defense is, of course, fair enough.
Thats always been my rule that is not to fight unless attacked first then my conscience is clear and my actions are justified.
The only other exception is to help someone else in need.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 06:03:08 PMQuote from: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 05:33:49 PMThats always been my rule that is not to fight unless attacked first then my conscience is clear and my actions are justified.
No. I'm not as it happens.
Self defense is, of course, fair enough.
The only other exception is to help someone else in need.
Do not fight unless one is attacked or about to be attacked. Some instances require one to get the retaliation in first.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
... astrology. Now that is nuts if you ask me, but you didn't but I am saying it anyway.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 06:29:45 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 November, 2009, 06:29:45 PM
Cruelty to Animals wether its the fur trade or unnecessary experimentation or killing for sport or anything else.
All of it just sickens me in the extreme and the footage and pictures of it i have seen and what i have read about has made a lasting impression and all those that are guilty of it are just worthless human garbage.
If i could make it all stop i would.
All of it just sickens me in the extreme and the footage and pictures of it i have seen and what i have read about has made a lasting impression and all those that are guilty of it are just worthless human garbage.
If i could make it all stop i would.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 06:32:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 06:32:47 PM
Peter, Supes - I agree on both fronts.
Although the folks who bomb medical schools because of the necessary work that goes on there are plain barking mad.
As for pre-emptive retaliation, I see where you're coming from. I would never instigate such things, but if they come looking for you and there's no other way out then, as you say, my conscience is clear.
Although the folks who bomb medical schools because of the necessary work that goes on there are plain barking mad.
As for pre-emptive retaliation, I see where you're coming from. I would never instigate such things, but if they come looking for you and there's no other way out then, as you say, my conscience is clear.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:47:57 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 15 November, 2009, 06:47:57 PM
Mind you, the 'getting in retaliation first' course of action has been used to bad effect by warmongers.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 06:51:58 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 06:51:58 PM
And footballers.
I would NOT have a clear conscience in those circumstances myself, but I think that's healthy. You *shouldn't* feel perfectly ok about belting someone in the teeth when they've done nothing more than talk to you. No matter what they said. The guilt is a good sign.
I would NOT have a clear conscience in those circumstances myself, but I think that's healthy. You *shouldn't* feel perfectly ok about belting someone in the teeth when they've done nothing more than talk to you. No matter what they said. The guilt is a good sign.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 15 November, 2009, 08:03:31 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 15 November, 2009, 08:03:31 PM
Aftershock - the nasty, luminous alcohol that is seen in cheap pubs where idiots go to get hammered before their night out begins. I've never got the appeal of guzzling booze simply to get leathered, if that's your bag then you might as well quaff pints of meths
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 05:59:32 PMQuoteChristians can (and invariably do) take issue with whatever they like.
Thats an incredibly predjudice view ;)
Life of Brian anyone!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 08:15:38 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 08:15:38 PM
Quite.
And if they're offended by anything, they should look to the teachings of their boss and just forgive them.
And if they're offended by anything, they should look to the teachings of their boss and just forgive them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 08:28:27 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 08:28:27 PM
QuoteChristians can (and invariably do) take issue with whatever they like.
Thats an incredibly predjudice view
Life of Brian anyone!
I think the point I was trying to make is being overlooked somewhat. Mainly that you should not label someone based on one wrongdoing. Just as you shouldn't label a whole religion in the same breath as branding others racist.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 08:41:33 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 08:41:33 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 08:28:27 PM
I think the point I was trying to make is being overlooked somewhat. Mainly that you should not label someone based on one wrongdoing.
So if you murder only one person you can't be called a murderer ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
1. Race isn't a choice and doesn't denote a pattern of thinkiing, merely superficial physical characteristics. Religion is a method of thinking and entirely a choice made by an individual.
2. Some people's religion seems to blind them to the basic sense that most of them seem to espouse. Namely non-violence, forgiveness etc. The Christian right and authorities of various sects and religions seem very hot on censoring ideas they don't like. So my statement stands. I wasn't suggesting ALL Christians are small-minded biggots who enjoy telling other people what to think, only that SOME are and do. A fact that CF seems to have pointed out evidence for.
2. Some people's religion seems to blind them to the basic sense that most of them seem to espouse. Namely non-violence, forgiveness etc. The Christian right and authorities of various sects and religions seem very hot on censoring ideas they don't like. So my statement stands. I wasn't suggesting ALL Christians are small-minded biggots who enjoy telling other people what to think, only that SOME are and do. A fact that CF seems to have pointed out evidence for.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 November, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 November, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
1. Race isn't a choice and doesn't denote a pattern of thinkiing, merely superficial physical characteristics. Religion is a method of thinking and entirely a choice made by an individual.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." --Sir Stephen Henry Roberts
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
QuoteSo if you murder only one person you can't be called a murderer
I knew that was coming! Surely I don't have to explain that someone hitting someone and forever being branded a voilent scumbag is not in the same league as murder.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 15 November, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
People hardly ever change their beliefs and ways!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 15 November, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
QuoteReligion is a method of thinking and entirely a choice made by an individual
In total agreement Mike. Other than the above. You could argue that many people have very little choice in which religion the are indoctrinated in and- particularly with certain religions- once the seed has beeen sown and its been rammed down their throats its something people find incredibly difficult to break free of. But that a topic for another thread methinks!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 15 November, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
Yeah, probably. But I worry about us boarders falling out with each other. So maybe we ought to just leave that thread as a possibility?
Good debating with you, Golledge.
Good debating with you, Golledge.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 16 November, 2009, 04:47:05 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 16 November, 2009, 04:47:05 PM
Murderer is to scrapping as drink driving is to parking ticket.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 16 November, 2009, 06:55:20 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 16 November, 2009, 06:55:20 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 15 November, 2009, 08:03:31 PM
Aftershock - the nasty, luminous alcohol that is seen in cheap pubs where idiots go to get hammered before their night out begins. I've never got the appeal of guzzling booze simply to get leathered, if that's your bag then you might as well quaff pints of meths
The same as.
Its not big and its not clever but its fine to do that if you can handle your drink and behave in an acceptable way which a lot of people sadly cant.I cant stand being around drunken loud and boorish people and antisocial behaviour and i cant stand listening to them talking shit.
This is why i always say blame the person and not the drink.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 17 November, 2009, 03:13:11 AM
Post by: HdE on 17 November, 2009, 03:13:11 AM
And what the hell is it with people who drag you out for a 'fun night on the town' and waste it well into the early hours talking rubbish about work?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 17 November, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
Post by: Mikey on 17 November, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
QuoteBut that a topic for another thread methinks!
It's been done a few times IIRC. Search and ye will find.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2009, 02:58:15 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2009, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: HdE on 17 November, 2009, 03:13:11 AM
And what the hell is it with people who drag you out for a 'fun night on the town' and waste it well into the early hours talking rubbish about work?
They dont have anything else in their lives apart from work.You get this a lot with office workers.[Not all office workers - obviously].
I used to know someone who was like this who was a photographer/property developer and i used to get trapped in conversations about plastering etc and it was difficult to get him to talk about other things apart from building and it was boring talking shop and having to listen to someone telling me how to suck eggs.
Boring.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 18 November, 2009, 06:23:01 PM
Post by: HdE on 18 November, 2009, 06:23:01 PM
Does yer 'ead in , doesn't it?
Whenever I have to deal with office workers of this ilk now, if they start boring me to death, I flat out tell 'em.
I feel zero guilt about this, having been subjected to all the usual office worker rubbish that goes on. You know - meeting people at bashes you didn't want to go to in the first place, being polite and ingratiating to everybody you meet, only to find out a week later that you've been branded a tool by a bunch of people who didn't bother to speak to you for more than five minutes. Nice.
It's a sad business. I meet a lot of these sorts of people. They think they're real big-shots, but they're almost devoid of personality. Not my scene at all.
Whenever I have to deal with office workers of this ilk now, if they start boring me to death, I flat out tell 'em.
I feel zero guilt about this, having been subjected to all the usual office worker rubbish that goes on. You know - meeting people at bashes you didn't want to go to in the first place, being polite and ingratiating to everybody you meet, only to find out a week later that you've been branded a tool by a bunch of people who didn't bother to speak to you for more than five minutes. Nice.
It's a sad business. I meet a lot of these sorts of people. They think they're real big-shots, but they're almost devoid of personality. Not my scene at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 18 November, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 18 November, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
I'm with you. It goes something like this: "We're not at work now, that's good right? So please, no more work chat as it does my bloody head in, eh?"
If that fails there's a ruder alternative I won't type here. It has words that Roger Godpleton would enjoy a little too much.
If that fails there's a ruder alternative I won't type here. It has words that Roger Godpleton would enjoy a little too much.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 19 November, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Post by: HdE on 19 November, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Well, Mr. Gloady, what can I say - you're more gracious about it than I am. I usually go straight to the blunt and ugly point. I've even been known to simply get up out of my seat, or finish my drink, or whatever, put my coat on and go home.
I can't abide overbearing, performance-fixated idiots.
I can't abide overbearing, performance-fixated idiots.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 November, 2009, 04:21:26 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 November, 2009, 04:21:26 AM
Quote from: HdE on 19 November, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Well, Mr. Gloady, what can I say - you're more gracious about it than I am. I usually go straight to the blunt and ugly point. I've even been known to simply get up out of my seat, or finish my drink, or whatever, put my coat on and go home.
I can't abide overbearing, performance-fixated idiots.
They are just Plankton or Minnows swimming about in the shark pool of the corporate workplace.
I never liked Coke snorting Yuppies for the exact same reason.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 November, 2009, 12:12:41 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 November, 2009, 12:12:41 PM
I have been known to take yellow and red cards with me (like football) and flash them whenever body starts talking too much about work (like getting into real nitty gritty details rather than "That new receptionist, eh? You would, wouldn't you?").
It allows you to deal with the situation in a fairly polite and light hearted way; most people get the point.
It allows you to deal with the situation in a fairly polite and light hearted way; most people get the point.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 12:17:11 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 12:17:11 PM
Sweet! I'm doing THAT in future.
But I know sod all about football. Is red the "right, go and get changed" one and the yellow is the "watch it!" one?
But I know sod all about football. Is red the "right, go and get changed" one and the yellow is the "watch it!" one?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 12:49:21 PM
Aftershave. Ok, I do use balm to sooth the chops after shaving, but not the man perfume stuff.
But it did lead to some great advertising eg Hai Karate and Denim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtwh3nQP5Uo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgx1Xc_ghwg&feature=player_embedded
But it did lead to some great advertising eg Hai Karate and Denim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtwh3nQP5Uo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgx1Xc_ghwg&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 01:08:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 01:08:31 PM
Thanks for those SS!
Never understood man-perfume either. Or moisturiser (in anything other than a "i've just taken the skin off my face along with some hairs - it HURTS" sense I mean). Or men who shave/wax their body hair. All very odd.
I'm clean, my skin is in excellent condition (thanks to nothing more than soap and water) and all this without the nascent male cosmetics industry. The advertisers have got to women but only by using generation upon generation of conditioning, us boys don't have the excuse so JUST SAY NO!
Never understood man-perfume either. Or moisturiser (in anything other than a "i've just taken the skin off my face along with some hairs - it HURTS" sense I mean). Or men who shave/wax their body hair. All very odd.
I'm clean, my skin is in excellent condition (thanks to nothing more than soap and water) and all this without the nascent male cosmetics industry. The advertisers have got to women but only by using generation upon generation of conditioning, us boys don't have the excuse so JUST SAY NO!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 November, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 November, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
After shave is great- means you can skip washing!
Same way as febreze means you never have to change your underwear
Same way as febreze means you never have to change your underwear
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 03:40:29 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 03:40:29 PM
I have heard of people using wet wipes instead of having a shower.
We had the shaving body hair conversation a while back. When it comes to summer time and hitting the beach, this Yeti gets an annual shearing.
We had the shaving body hair conversation a while back. When it comes to summer time and hitting the beach, this Yeti gets an annual shearing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 19 November, 2009, 07:52:36 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 19 November, 2009, 07:52:36 PM
Soap. Shampoo. A comb. Sometimes deodorant. This is all a man needs as far as "grooming" is concerned.
As long as there are no ticks in your fur, and your snout remains snot-free, you're good to go! I think it's shameful that people like SuperSurfer are forced to degrade themselves in order to meet other peoples requirements.
As long as there are no ticks in your fur, and your snout remains snot-free, you're good to go! I think it's shameful that people like SuperSurfer are forced to degrade themselves in order to meet other peoples requirements.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 19 November, 2009, 08:11:19 PM
Post by: Christov on 19 November, 2009, 08:11:19 PM
Most cosmetics companies are effectively selling snake oil, it's really not that hard or expensive to look after your face.
Wash face with hot water - opens the pores.
Use a cleanser of some kind, can even be soap (probably best to avoid regular hand soap, it's not really meant to be used on the face, but whatever) - leave on for 3 minutes to let it actually do what it's meant to.
Wash face with cold water - closes the pores, so no more dirt/oil can get into them.
That's the simple guide to skincare.
Wash face with hot water - opens the pores.
Use a cleanser of some kind, can even be soap (probably best to avoid regular hand soap, it's not really meant to be used on the face, but whatever) - leave on for 3 minutes to let it actually do what it's meant to.
Wash face with cold water - closes the pores, so no more dirt/oil can get into them.
That's the simple guide to skincare.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 November, 2009, 08:16:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 November, 2009, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 19 November, 2009, 07:52:36 PM
Soap. Shampoo. A comb. Sometimes deodorant. This is all a man needs as far as "grooming" is concerned.
As long as there are no ticks in your fur, and your snout remains snot-free, you're good to go! I think it's shameful that people like SuperSurfer are forced to degrade themselves in order to meet other peoples requirements.
I will go along with that as well except without the comb or a brush as i dont use either.No deodorant either thanks.
I have to have moisturiser though preferably that which contains Vit E as i work outside in winter .
I cant stand aftershave and things like that as i dont like the smell of it very much.I dont like walking past someone in the street and getting a waft of their after shave.
A lot of soap is horrible as well but i find that clear glycerine soap is the best.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 09:20:25 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 09:20:25 PM
I will accept downgrading myself so that I don't get called the "missing link", as I have been called in the past.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
My GRUD, I have to share a bus with you lot? :D
My grooming routine involves, in no particular order: Facial scrub, facial wash (soap has not touched the SmallBlueFace since 1986), moisturiser, Vitamin E juice (pop open the caplets and spread em on your face last thing at night- works a treat. Top Professional Anti-Ageing Tip there, factfans- just use the Vit E caplets sold cheaply in health shops- better and more effective than ANY expensive creams), deodorant, body scrub, shaving, shaving balm (I agree, aftershave is wanky), and all-over hair removal from time to time. I also colour my beard, eyebrows and lashes.
SBT
My grooming routine involves, in no particular order: Facial scrub, facial wash (soap has not touched the SmallBlueFace since 1986), moisturiser, Vitamin E juice (pop open the caplets and spread em on your face last thing at night- works a treat. Top Professional Anti-Ageing Tip there, factfans- just use the Vit E caplets sold cheaply in health shops- better and more effective than ANY expensive creams), deodorant, body scrub, shaving, shaving balm (I agree, aftershave is wanky), and all-over hair removal from time to time. I also colour my beard, eyebrows and lashes.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
Jesus!
Soap, water, shampoo, toothpaste, mouthwash, shaving gel, aftershave balm, deodorant, limey shower gel. I'm not filthy, I just believe that nature made me hairy for a reason (and it's always proved very popular, probably because I don't have a hairy back).
As for anti-ageing, I get asked for ID when buying age-sensitive products (including, rather humiliatingly, in a pub a few months back) if I've had a shave that morning (the stubble seems to stop that, obscuring as it does my perfect skin). I'm 35.
Soap, water, shampoo, toothpaste, mouthwash, shaving gel, aftershave balm, deodorant, limey shower gel. I'm not filthy, I just believe that nature made me hairy for a reason (and it's always proved very popular, probably because I don't have a hairy back).
As for anti-ageing, I get asked for ID when buying age-sensitive products (including, rather humiliatingly, in a pub a few months back) if I've had a shave that morning (the stubble seems to stop that, obscuring as it does my perfect skin). I'm 35.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 19 November, 2009, 10:50:16 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 19 November, 2009, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 19 November, 2009, 09:20:25 PM
I will accept downgrading myself so that I don't get called the "missing link", as I have been called in the past.
Just beat on your chest and charge at them. You need to assert your dominance!
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
My GRUD, I have to share a bus with you lot? :D
My grooming routine involves, in no particular order: Facial scrub, facial wash (soap has not touched the SmallBlueFace since 1986), moisturiser, Vitamin E juice (pop open the caplets and spread em on your face last thing at night- works a treat. Top Professional Anti-Ageing Tip there, factfans- just use the Vit E caplets sold cheaply in health shops- better and more effective than ANY expensive creams), deodorant, body scrub, shaving, shaving balm (I agree, aftershave is wanky), and all-over hair removal from time to time. I also colour my beard, eyebrows and lashes.
SBT
Just get the sex change and be done with it!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 19 November, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 19 November, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
SBT: your regime puts me to shame! I bet you've taken over ALL of the bathroom cabinet!
Incidentally I don't get the appeal of super-groomed men at all. Taking care of yourself is a good thing and definitely to be heartily recommended, but chaps plucking their eyebrows into a discernible arch? No thanks! Fake tan? I don't like it on girls so why would I like it on a guy?
Incidentally I don't get the appeal of super-groomed men at all. Taking care of yourself is a good thing and definitely to be heartily recommended, but chaps plucking their eyebrows into a discernible arch? No thanks! Fake tan? I don't like it on girls so why would I like it on a guy?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:05:42 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 19 November, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
SBT: your regime puts me to shame! I bet you've taken over ALL of the bathroom cabinet!
Incidentally I don't get the appeal of super-groomed men at all. Taking care of yourself is a good thing and definitely to be heartily recommended, but chaps plucking their eyebrows into a discernible arch? No thanks! Fake tan? I don't like it on girls so why would I like it on a guy?
We don't have a bathroom cabinet! We have a stacked set of drawers, of which I have two (to my wife's four) and one basket on the window ledge. Tans? Ssssssssss. (makes crucifix signs)- I am a pasty white with blue bits showing through! But yes, I do pluck.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:07:17 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:07:17 PM
So we've established my girlfriend doesn't want to fuck Steev!
HURRAY!
(Sorry Steev)
HURRAY!
(Sorry Steev)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:11:24 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:11:24 PM
[Response deleted, due to it being rejected by Talbot Rothwell, as far back as 1973]
:D
SBT
:D
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 November, 2009, 11:30:29 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 November, 2009, 11:30:29 PM
Bloody hell! its gone all daytime TV womens chat show in here
So..which of the Sex and The City girls are you like?
So..which of the Sex and The City girls are you like?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: johnnystress on 19 November, 2009, 11:30:29 PM
Bloody hell! its gone all daytime TV womens chat show in here
So..which of the Sex and The City girls are you like?
Samantha. Obviously.
SBT
Title: Re: Dredd help
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Are you calling me a Loose Woman? I'm a harlot and a jezzebell and a wanton slattern, but NEVER a loose woman!
Title: Re: Dredd help
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Are you calling me a Loose Woman? I'm a harlot and a jezzebell and a wanton slattern, but NEVER a loose woman!
Off topic: Mike, why did this thread suddenly go by the name of "Dredd Help" as soon as you posted?
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
My fucking phone. It's crap like that, even if i attempt to change it, sometimes it'll revert to the first topic i responded to via this phone. Sorry. Maybe you can change it back?
Title: Re: Cinnammon Buttocks and the spreading thereof.
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:47:55 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 November, 2009, 11:47:55 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
My fucking phone. It's crap like that, even if i attempt to change it, sometimes it'll revert to the first topic i responded to via this phone. Sorry. Maybe you can change it back?
Done.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 20 November, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 20 November, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
I just spent ages trying to work out mikes request :
and tried to correlate it with what i know about JD and now the title of the post has changed so all my effort and time has been wasted.
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 19 November, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Are you calling me a Loose Woman? I'm a harlot and a jezzebell and a wanton slattern, but NEVER a loose woman!
and tried to correlate it with what i know about JD and now the title of the post has changed so all my effort and time has been wasted.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 20 November, 2009, 12:48:38 AM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 20 November, 2009, 12:48:38 AM
Come now Peter. Can any time spent pondering the intricacies of Dredds character ever be truly wasted?
Think of it like this, next time someone starts a thread about what type of skin care products Justice Department uses or Dredds sexual proclivities were he to indulge them, you'll have a headstart over the rest of us. And you'll owe it all to Mikes phone.
Think of it like this, next time someone starts a thread about what type of skin care products Justice Department uses or Dredds sexual proclivities were he to indulge them, you'll have a headstart over the rest of us. And you'll owe it all to Mikes phone.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 20 November, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 20 November, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
On the up side, it seems to have turned back.
I don't understand the appeal of changing the title of threads or stupid bloody phone browsers that seem to do daft things for no reason...
I don't understand the appeal of changing the title of threads or stupid bloody phone browsers that seem to do daft things for no reason...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 24 November, 2009, 05:45:35 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 24 November, 2009, 05:45:35 PM
Tea. Sorry, mine's a coffee.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 24 November, 2009, 06:50:32 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 24 November, 2009, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 24 November, 2009, 05:45:35 PM
Tea. Sorry, mine's a coffee.
I'm guessing this includes green tea too?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 24 November, 2009, 07:34:47 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 24 November, 2009, 07:34:47 PM
Yup, green tea too. As for herbal, I can just about tolerate that on rare occasions.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 November, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 November, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
Metal. As in music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 24 November, 2009, 08:14:44 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 24 November, 2009, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 24 November, 2009, 07:52:55 PMIt's a man thing
Metal. As in music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 24 November, 2009, 08:18:25 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 24 November, 2009, 08:18:25 PM
These youngsters don't understand the music of Suicidal Tendencies, early Anthrax, Slayer, Exodus.....mutter mutter mumble groan winge witter whine bollox etc.....
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 November, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 November, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: HdE on 17 November, 2009, 03:13:11 AM
And what the hell is it with people who drag you out for a 'fun night on the town' and waste it well into the early hours talking rubbish about work?
I'm not going to be that person ever again once I start my new job after Christmas because a) it'll be the first proper job I've had in 10 years that doesn't have a hefty component of work to be completed at home, b) the remuneration, conditions, perks and terms of employment are such that for the first time in 20 years I am unlikely to feel resentful towards my employer, c) my work will be confined, on site, to a fixed number of hours per week and thus will not take over every aspect of my life by crowding out all other activities, including sleep (see 'a'), and d) what my job will involve may well be so complex I won't even be able to explain what I do, in which case there will be little point talking about it in the pub. Thank goodness.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Someone in a pub or a party will ask you what you do sooner or later.I dont know about you but i hate being asked what i do as i dont really like talking about myself and if it does happen i just keep it as short as possible.
What does your new job involve and why is it so complicated anyway ?
;)
What does your new job involve and why is it so complicated anyway ?
;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:43 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 24 November, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
for the first time in 20 years I am unlikely to feel resentful towards my employer
I give it a fortnight.*
Cheers!
Jim
*I'm actually not being snarky, Ush. All employers are c*nts, only the degree of c*ntishness varies.**
** Yes. I am self-employed. No, the irony is not lost on me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 November, 2009, 11:57:44 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 November, 2009, 11:57:44 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:43 PM
I give it a fortnight.*
Cheers!
Jim
I love that. But at the same time I feel strangely like my soul is bare to the world.
;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 25 November, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 25 November, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
Speaking of *Metal* as in music... Jon Bon Jovi. I refus to spend good money on a music mag with him in it. I'll find what I want to know about Sonic Youth from friends or internet thanks, Q or whatever fresh, glossed pulp you reckon your name is. You have time for that two pack of kidney beans, you can stay on the shelf. Yeah? Its not lost me nought, either.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: satchmo on 25 November, 2009, 12:17:40 AM
Post by: satchmo on 25 November, 2009, 12:17:40 AM
Quote from: Krombasher on 25 November, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
You have time for that two pack of kidney beans, you can stay on the shelf.
;D
Krom you're my hero.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 25 November, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 25 November, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Well, if the missus wants, it comes out of her budgets, not the 'ousekeeping, Satch. (Not that you'll have any for anything other than Huggies, but that'll cover it for a bit. ;) )Hmmph.. ::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Satanist on 26 November, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Post by: Satanist on 26 November, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Someone in a pub or a party will ask you what you do sooner or later
I always say I'm a Fluffer. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 26 November, 2009, 12:58:07 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 26 November, 2009, 12:58:07 PM
Quote from: The Satanist on 26 November, 2009, 12:35:25 PMAccording to the wonder of QI, the advent of Viagra has rendered that profession obsolite.Quote from: Peter Wolf on 24 November, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Someone in a pub or a party will ask you what you do sooner or later
I always say I'm a Fluffer. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
I can't see the appeal of Madonna, let's look at the evidence;
*average singing voice. VERY average
*doesn't write her own songs
*can't play an instrument
*likes buying children
Arguments for her usually go along the lines of 'but she's so good at re-inventing herself!' well if changing your hair and leaping around in your pants at the age of 50 is a good thing prepare yourself to see some real sights on the high street! Also she's an inveterate creator of pseudo-scandal (her 'sex' book - MY EYES!, the whole 'like a prayer' video debacle) and should just get off of my radio now if not sooner
This rant was brought to you by the words 'debacle' and 'average' and the numbers 3, 7 and 50
*average singing voice. VERY average
*doesn't write her own songs
*can't play an instrument
*likes buying children
Arguments for her usually go along the lines of 'but she's so good at re-inventing herself!' well if changing your hair and leaping around in your pants at the age of 50 is a good thing prepare yourself to see some real sights on the high street! Also she's an inveterate creator of pseudo-scandal (her 'sex' book - MY EYES!, the whole 'like a prayer' video debacle) and should just get off of my radio now if not sooner
This rant was brought to you by the words 'debacle' and 'average' and the numbers 3, 7 and 50
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 02:09:58 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 02:09:58 PM
Yep. David Bowie reinvents hijmself too. And he writes the songs and is an excellent vocalist. And has the decency not to parade about in lingerie and tight rubber in his dotage. Well done him.
That sex book apparently had a picture of Vanillla Ice. The secret origin of Jedward - at last!
That sex book apparently had a picture of Vanillla Ice. The secret origin of Jedward - at last!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 November, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 November, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
I'm prepared to be corrected on this but I think Madonna at least co-wrties most of her material?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 02:19:39 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 02:19:39 PM
No idea, personally.
I know that "co-writing" credit can be claimed by suggesting a line being re-arranged/re-phrased (but usually only if you're the "talent" - who will often forego their share of a songwriting royalty). Look at sheet music of Spice Girls records (no, go on) - they get CREDIT on a few of their numbers, but they wrote nothing. Apart from perhaps suggesting "zig a zig ar!"
If she wrote/co-wrote any of her stuff, then I guess I will have to give her credit. But she's still rubbish.
I know that "co-writing" credit can be claimed by suggesting a line being re-arranged/re-phrased (but usually only if you're the "talent" - who will often forego their share of a songwriting royalty). Look at sheet music of Spice Girls records (no, go on) - they get CREDIT on a few of their numbers, but they wrote nothing. Apart from perhaps suggesting "zig a zig ar!"
If she wrote/co-wrote any of her stuff, then I guess I will have to give her credit. But she's still rubbish.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 26 November, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 26 November, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Am I the only person that thinks Madonna looks great in tat Sex book?
The idea is silly and self indulgent but...cor..
Anyone ever see Wat Tylers Tribute to it?
Beautifully shot erotic pictures ...of fat punks
The idea is silly and self indulgent but...cor..
Anyone ever see Wat Tylers Tribute to it?
Beautifully shot erotic pictures ...of fat punks
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
... Bringing your screaming, snot-streaked toddler to the pub and then determinedly sitting there nursing a drink while your child pisses off *everyone else* in the pub.
Take your child home, madam.
Jim
Take your child home, madam.
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 06:22:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 06:22:48 PM
As far as i know Madonna has co-written a lot of her own material and that means both lyrics and music not to mention she has the creative ideas.
She has always collaborated with a producer but so have loads of other artists including David Bowie.I like some of her music but a lot of it i wouldnt choose to listen to.EVER.
She doesnt just show up at the studio and sing and then goes home as she produces as well.
Also if she is in good shape for her age and looks good then why shouldnt she leap around in her pants ?
I havent got any time for Ageism myself and what you should be doing at a certain age and conforming because its the same mentality that says i should not be reading comics @ 41yrs of age.
Forgive me for saying so but Fuck That.
She has always collaborated with a producer but so have loads of other artists including David Bowie.I like some of her music but a lot of it i wouldnt choose to listen to.EVER.
She doesnt just show up at the studio and sing and then goes home as she produces as well.
Also if she is in good shape for her age and looks good then why shouldnt she leap around in her pants ?
I havent got any time for Ageism myself and what you should be doing at a certain age and conforming because its the same mentality that says i should not be reading comics @ 41yrs of age.
Forgive me for saying so but Fuck That.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 07:10:08 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 07:10:08 PM
QuoteAlso if she is in good shape for her age and looks good then why shouldnt she leap around in her pants ?
as evidenced by a previous posting I'm certainly NOT ageist as I have no time for teenage girls doing it either - I just plain don't want to see your twinkle Madge so be a love and put it away hmmmm?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
Well forgive me for thinking that you are but its just that you said "At the age of 50" so i jumped to a conclusion .Its easy to see why i thought that.
Referring to Mikes earlier comment :
David Bowie is 60 but isnt suffering from dementia or whatever as far as i know.
Referring to Mikes earlier comment :
David Bowie is 60 but isnt suffering from dementia or whatever as far as i know.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 26 November, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 26 November, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Do drums count as an instrument? She started out as a drummer in an unsuccessful rock band and was picked up by a producer while she did a turn on the vocals. There're photos.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 09:04:07 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 09:04:07 PM
QuoteWell forgive me for thinking that you are but its just that you said "At the age of 50" so i jumped to a conclusion .Its easy to see why i thought that.
Sorry Pete, I didn't mean to jump down your throat - forgive me?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 09:06:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 09:06:45 PM
Ok, now everyone has seemingly dismantled the reasons I loathe Madonna, can I just say I hate her fucking music and think she's an annoying celebutard?
I can? This thread exists for people to admit they diverge from the orthodoxy you say?
Oh thank you.
I can? This thread exists for people to admit they diverge from the orthodoxy you say?
Oh thank you.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 09:10:22 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 09:10:22 PM
That's why this thread exists! To vent spleen and bile and generally say why you hate stuff (even though it's called 'I don't understand the appeal of...')
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 November, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 November, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 09:06:45 PMShe's got arms like a tubesock full of brussel sprouts and she's the mouthpiece for a fraudulent money-grabbing pseudo-religion. Some of the points deducted for marrying mockney ubertit Guy Ritchie had to be restored for divorcing him, but still...
Ok, now everyone has seemingly dismantled the reasons I loathe Madonna, can I just say I hate her fucking music and think she's an annoying celebutard?
I can? This thread exists for people to admit they diverge from the orthodoxy you say?
Oh thank you.
Ray of Light wasn't a bad album though, but that's largely down to William Orbit
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 November, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 November, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 November, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Ray of Light wasn't a bad album though, but that's largely down to William Orbit
I really rate 'Ray of Light' just a fantastic pop record. She's not got close before or since (though she has done other good stuff) but that record is superb. As you say I reckon William Orbit had something to do with it but credit where credit is due to her Madge for that one.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 09:32:47 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 November, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
but that's largely down to William Orbit
Now there's a man who knows how to make chewing gum.
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 26 November, 2009, 09:04:07 PMQuoteWell forgive me for thinking that you are but its just that you said "At the age of 50" so i jumped to a conclusion .Its easy to see why i thought that.
Sorry Pete, I didn't mean to jump down your throat - forgive me?
Thats Ok .
Of course you are forgiven.
8)
I was just being reactionary because i was or still am in that kind of frame of mind today.
Personally she should have stopped making records after Music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Despite my dislike for her work, I'd say there are periods where she's artistically on fire - be that collaborators or things in contemporary music she's reacting to - and that's JUST like Bowie.
The difference, I think, is that I can listen to Bowie's worst work and feel it's both artisitically valid AND makes me want to tap my feet/dance/grab an instrument and jam along. Madge doesn't press any of those buttons for me. She compounds this by being so personally annoying and politically objectionable (Quabbalahs (thanks Pat Mills) and buying children for example).
The difference, I think, is that I can listen to Bowie's worst work and feel it's both artisitically valid AND makes me want to tap my feet/dance/grab an instrument and jam along. Madge doesn't press any of those buttons for me. She compounds this by being so personally annoying and politically objectionable (Quabbalahs (thanks Pat Mills) and buying children for example).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 26 November, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 26 November, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2009, 09:34:02 PMFixed that for Peter. I'm not a fan of Madonna by any means, but she always knows what producer to hook up with (usually the one Bjork dismissed as too mainstream two years previously.
Personally she should have stopped making records afterMusicJustify My Love.
Kabbala is better than Scientology as it gave us Pi. The film, not the ratio.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 26 November, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 26 November, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
... Bringing your screaming, snot-streaked toddler to the pub and then determinedly sitting there nursing a drink while your child pisses off *everyone else* in the pub.
Didn't know you drank in my local, Jim - If I had we'd have sent him over to cadge some change for the slots.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 10:30:11 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 10:30:11 PM
The last time that happened to me, I was lunching in the pub over the road from the hospice my mum was in.
After about 10 minutes of running about and yelling loudly about spongebob, the kid decided to wander over and ask for a chip. The parents seemed perfectly ok about the annoying little runt talking to strangers and, indeed, asking them for food (or sweeties, or to look at their puppies). My anger at his exuberant shreiking totally evapourated immediately, I gave him some chips and shook my head at the poor bugger's fate.
Can't deny a kid a chip. And I didn't know where to look because the parents seemed to be paying absolutely no attention to the little beggar - too engrosed in glugging their beer and watching the sports. No wonder he was playing up.
After about 10 minutes of running about and yelling loudly about spongebob, the kid decided to wander over and ask for a chip. The parents seemed perfectly ok about the annoying little runt talking to strangers and, indeed, asking them for food (or sweeties, or to look at their puppies). My anger at his exuberant shreiking totally evapourated immediately, I gave him some chips and shook my head at the poor bugger's fate.
Can't deny a kid a chip. And I didn't know where to look because the parents seemed to be paying absolutely no attention to the little beggar - too engrosed in glugging their beer and watching the sports. No wonder he was playing up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 26 November, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 26 November, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
Bowie has WORST songs? I think not! *discreetly hides tin machine album.*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 November, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
I still quite LIKE Tin Machine.
I like pretty much everything he's recorded. That reminds me *flicks through itunes, finds "Magic Dance" from the Labyrinth soundtrack.
"THUNDERBOLT, LIGHTNING!"
I like pretty much everything he's recorded. That reminds me *flicks through itunes, finds "Magic Dance" from the Labyrinth soundtrack.
"THUNDERBOLT, LIGHTNING!"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 11:34:29 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 11:34:29 PM
... Very very frightening ...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 26 November, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 26 November, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
...(Galileo) Galileo (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Figaro...
filip
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 11:52:35 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 11:52:35 PM
Magnifico-O-O-O-O ...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 27 November, 2009, 12:18:29 AM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 27 November, 2009, 12:18:29 AM
...I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me...
filip
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 12:26:34 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 12:26:34 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 November, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
... Bringing your screaming, snot-streaked toddler to the pub and then determinedly sitting there nursing a drink while your child pisses off *everyone else* in the pub.
Take your child home, madam.
Jim
I had this problem last time i ate out with my mum and dad.It was an Italian [Carluccios] so Italian restaraunts are child/family friendly but there was this woman in there at the back who had a whole table full of under 5s.One of the toddlers kept banging on the table with a spoon and it was really disrupting the conversation.It got to the point that if that kid did it again i was going to go over to their table and request that it stopped.
GGRRRR...............
Luckily it stopped
If someone is going to bring very young children to somewhere like that then i expect the adult in charge to act responsibly and have some consideration and some respect for the needs of others who are eating and not act as if nothing is happening.
We werent paying to eat out in a creche or a kindergarten.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 November, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 November, 2009, 12:29:27 AM
Quote from: flip-r mk2 on 27 November, 2009, 12:18:29 AM
...I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me...
He's just a poor boy from a poor family
Spare him his life from this monstrosity ...
Cheers!
Jim
Waynes World is thisaway ---->
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 27 November, 2009, 12:59:53 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 27 November, 2009, 12:59:53 AM
How fitting that people break out into a rendition of the most overblown, overrated piece of shit song in the history of pop music on a thread entitled "I don't understand the appeal of..."
Bohemian Rhapsody is shit. There, I said it. I'm not some kind of music snob, I'm just objectively right.
Bohemian Rhapsody is shit. There, I said it. I'm not some kind of music snob, I'm just objectively right.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 01:01:41 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 01:01:41 AM
Underground is tops. Magic Dance splits the atom and Chilli down brings it on. As the world falls down gets a skip every 500th listen. Next I'm in front of spotify...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mark Taylor on 27 November, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
Post by: Mark Taylor on 27 November, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 24 November, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
Metal. As in music.
Well that's easily sorted.
Play Slayer's Reign in Blood over and over on infinite loop and don't stop or listen to anything else UNTIL YOU DAMN WELL LIKE IT. Even if it takes until after you die.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mark Taylor on 27 November, 2009, 01:31:04 AM
Post by: Mark Taylor on 27 November, 2009, 01:31:04 AM
Talking of musical genres people don't see the appeal of...
I don't see the appeal of rap, or 'house' or any of that kind of stuff. I don't see the appeal of 'country'. I don't see the appeal of at least 90% of pop either. And what is the obsession in recent pop with relationship breakups all about? I mean if I hear another song about how your girlfriend/boyfriend dumped you or how you dumped your girlfriend/boyfriend or how they're cheating on you or how you're cheating on them but feel guilty about it or how you're cheating on them but don't feel guilty about it etc. etdrokkingc. I'll just have to kill somebody who probably didn't deserve it or do anything wrong just because they happen to be there.
But then I do probably have excessively aggressive tendencies because I listen to Metal. As in music.
I don't see the appeal of rap, or 'house' or any of that kind of stuff. I don't see the appeal of 'country'. I don't see the appeal of at least 90% of pop either. And what is the obsession in recent pop with relationship breakups all about? I mean if I hear another song about how your girlfriend/boyfriend dumped you or how you dumped your girlfriend/boyfriend or how they're cheating on you or how you're cheating on them but feel guilty about it or how you're cheating on them but don't feel guilty about it etc. etdrokkingc. I'll just have to kill somebody who probably didn't deserve it or do anything wrong just because they happen to be there.
But then I do probably have excessively aggressive tendencies because I listen to Metal. As in music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 03:24:36 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 27 November, 2009, 12:59:53 AM
How fitting that people break out into a rendition of the most overblown, overrated piece of shit song in the history of pop music on a thread entitled "I don't understand the appeal of..."
Bohemian Rhapsody is shit. There, I said it. I'm not some kind of music snob, I'm just objectively right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wM58YXp2x0&feature=related
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 03:43:45 AM
Can I add wayne's world without sounding like a sham argent declari?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 November, 2009, 07:11:07 AM
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 November, 2009, 07:11:07 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 03:24:36 AMQuote from: Roger Godpleton on 27 November, 2009, 12:59:53 AM
How fitting that people break out into a rendition of the most overblown, overrated piece of shit song in the history of pop music on a thread entitled "I don't understand the appeal of..."
Bohemian Rhapsody is shit. There, I said it. I'm not some kind of music snob, I'm just objectively right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wM58YXp2x0&feature=related
If you want a version of Bohemian Rhapsody we can all get behind try this fella
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbNymZ7vqY)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 02:02:18 PM
I don't understand the ned for telesales marketing.
I mean, honestly. It's annoying, constant calls distress some folks, and I'm damned sure it doesn't work when it comes to actually selling anything.
SOMEBODY MAKE IT ILLEGAL!
I mean, honestly. It's annoying, constant calls distress some folks, and I'm damned sure it doesn't work when it comes to actually selling anything.
SOMEBODY MAKE IT ILLEGAL!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Sadly it DOES seem to make enough money to make it viable. Not that it makes it right, of course.
Right now I'm having a hell of a time in my life and the last thing I want to find when I get to the phone is that it's someone doing a survey, or looking for showhomes for their new magazine or any of the other semi-lies they tell to get you to listen. I say SEMI-lies because they DO collect information and they DO produce the magazines, but we all know they're not the REASON, they're the excuse.
When I was working at college to get into uni I was hard up and needed a part time job that paid well. I did this HORRIBLE task myself for about 6 weeks. HATED it and didn't meet anyone who felt otherwise who wasn't psychotic. I was ALWAYS very polite to people who cold-called me before that experience and now I endeavour to keep that up knowing how horrible it was essentially being shouted and sworn at for 8 hours straight two days a week. It's difficult though.
As annoying as the robots are, you feel you can comfortably tell them to eff off in spectacular fashion.
Right now I'm having a hell of a time in my life and the last thing I want to find when I get to the phone is that it's someone doing a survey, or looking for showhomes for their new magazine or any of the other semi-lies they tell to get you to listen. I say SEMI-lies because they DO collect information and they DO produce the magazines, but we all know they're not the REASON, they're the excuse.
When I was working at college to get into uni I was hard up and needed a part time job that paid well. I did this HORRIBLE task myself for about 6 weeks. HATED it and didn't meet anyone who felt otherwise who wasn't psychotic. I was ALWAYS very polite to people who cold-called me before that experience and now I endeavour to keep that up knowing how horrible it was essentially being shouted and sworn at for 8 hours straight two days a week. It's difficult though.
As annoying as the robots are, you feel you can comfortably tell them to eff off in spectacular fashion.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kev Levell on 27 November, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
Post by: Kev Levell on 27 November, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
I remain polite as far as I can, but sometimes hanging up after the person hasn't listened to you saying that you're not interested for the fifth time is your only option.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 27 November, 2009, 02:49:01 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 27 November, 2009, 02:49:01 PM
Never mind kids in pubs, kids where they shouldn't be, fuck off.
I've been known to do a little bit of live roleplay, or standing around in costume getting pissed as its also known. Then some guy who is usually a straight up, cool guy starts bringing his 8 year old son along. To an over 18 event. Where we all get pissed. And we spend the time being massively crass. And tells us not to swear in front of his kid. Wanker.
I've been known to do a little bit of live roleplay, or standing around in costume getting pissed as its also known. Then some guy who is usually a straight up, cool guy starts bringing his 8 year old son along. To an over 18 event. Where we all get pissed. And we spend the time being massively crass. And tells us not to swear in front of his kid. Wanker.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
I get telesales marketing calls quite a lot.I have been a bit off with them in the past when i had persistant calls from India because i didnt like their telephone manner.
Since then i have made an effort to be polite with them despite the fact its an intrusion and i have tried to exercise some humility because it is a person on the other end and a couple of times i have ended up chatting to them.
Its just someone trying to earn a living and they are not being paid to put up with abuse from myself or anyone else so i would rather be pleasent to them as i feel better for doing that rather than feeling guilty for biting their heads off.
Since then i have made an effort to be polite with them despite the fact its an intrusion and i have tried to exercise some humility because it is a person on the other end and a couple of times i have ended up chatting to them.
Its just someone trying to earn a living and they are not being paid to put up with abuse from myself or anyone else so i would rather be pleasent to them as i feel better for doing that rather than feeling guilty for biting their heads off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 04:21:51 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 04:21:51 PM
Quote from: James S on 27 November, 2009, 02:49:01 PM
Then some guy who is usually a straight up, cool guy starts bringing his 8 year old son along.
Ha! That's really stupid. Eight-year-olds should be playing out, not going along to live action role play. Live action role-play is what kids do all the time. They don't need to be taken along to an event in order to do it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
I always try to have a little fun if the telesales person is up for it. Today I had an OBVIOUSLY Indian woman with a thick accent who introduced herself as "Pricilla" - clearly not her real name. Many of them adopt what they think are normal English names so they might be less likely to get ignorant fucks saying "WHAT? WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN?" which naturally distracts from the point.
I asked "Is that your real name?"
"Yes sir" and she went on with the script. I interrupted politely and asked "Are you named after the King's wife?"
"Who?"
"Elvis, you know, the King."
"Sir, the Queen's name is Elizabeth"
I hung up shortly after that. With a smile and a "Thanks but no thanks" and not waiting for a response - as it'd only have been the next sentence on her script.
I asked "Is that your real name?"
"Yes sir" and she went on with the script. I interrupted politely and asked "Are you named after the King's wife?"
"Who?"
"Elvis, you know, the King."
"Sir, the Queen's name is Elizabeth"
I hung up shortly after that. With a smile and a "Thanks but no thanks" and not waiting for a response - as it'd only have been the next sentence on her script.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Post by: radiator on 27 November, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
I don't have any qualms whatsoever when it comes to simply hanging up on telemarketers, nor blanking charity muggers or the people that try to give you free newspapers. Worse still are those automated junk nuisance callers - I get so many of those I pretty much never answer my home phone during the day if I'm in the house as everyone who wants to contact me will do so on my mobile.
On the subject of charity muggers - can we ban those, please? Just tax everyone in the country a few quid a month and distribute it to various charities instead.
On the subject of charity muggers - can we ban those, please? Just tax everyone in the country a few quid a month and distribute it to various charities instead.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 05:02:22 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 05:02:22 PM
I understand that it's annoying, god knows they annoy ME - but morally I have no problems with it. After all, most crime is opportunistic, so why not on the spot philanthropy? After all, you can just say no.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 05:14:14 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 05:14:14 PM
There dont seem to be as many chuggers around like there used to be.
I already have my charity of choice and those charities are not philanthropic in nature.I have had to turn down Chuggers before and when i have i have often felt guilty for doing so and i would rather not be put on the spot and if there are say a dozen people that are walking past a Chugger in the street i would always be the individual that they would latch onto for some inexplicable reason.
I already have my charity of choice and those charities are not philanthropic in nature.I have had to turn down Chuggers before and when i have i have often felt guilty for doing so and i would rather not be put on the spot and if there are say a dozen people that are walking past a Chugger in the street i would always be the individual that they would latch onto for some inexplicable reason.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 27 November, 2009, 05:17:37 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 27 November, 2009, 05:17:37 PM
Don't meet their eye Peter. So much as look at them and they are all over you. As for there being less, try Cardiff Queen Street any given lunchtime. Chocked with Chuggers and Krishnas as far as the eye can see.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 05:20:53 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 05:20:53 PM
But only the Krishnas are evil and bent on world domination.
No, wait, got that wrong....
No, wait, got that wrong....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
After several earnest conversations with irritating middle class graduate girls pestering on behalf of - what was it now? Save the Children? - I worked on a handy response for future use, which ended up as "get a proper job." Unfortunately then the credit crunch happened and that was no longer a realistic option, so I just went back to ignoring them, and my witty riposte remained unused.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
I've been fascinated to hear everybody's ideas about the telesales stuff.
Now, I'm not generally the type to be rude to other folks. I've always been pretty gracious about speaking to the guys who call us.
However, we ARE registered with telephone preferencing. And we've discovered that while it worked a treat early on, we're getting more calls again now. Make no mistake, these callers are breaking the law by contavting us.
So now, unless they're charity callers or survey workers, anybody who calls us is just putting themselves on the line for a dose of my fury!
Now, I'm not generally the type to be rude to other folks. I've always been pretty gracious about speaking to the guys who call us.
However, we ARE registered with telephone preferencing. And we've discovered that while it worked a treat early on, we're getting more calls again now. Make no mistake, these callers are breaking the law by contavting us.
So now, unless they're charity callers or survey workers, anybody who calls us is just putting themselves on the line for a dose of my fury!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
By rights, all you should have to say is TPS and the telesales person should apologise profusely and hang up in short order. They'll then tell their boss and the number will be blocked from that site. Sometimes accidents happen, but more than once from the same firm is taking the piss.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 08:38:32 PM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 08:38:32 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
After several earnest conversations with irritating middle class graduate girls pestering on behalf of - what was it now? Save the Children? - I worked on a handy response for future use, which ended up as "get a proper job." Unfortunately then the credit crunch happened and that was no longer a realistic option, so I just went back to ignoring them, and my witty riposte remained unused.
Something I used to do was produce a copy of what eventually became a rather ragged donation form for a charity I was actively involved with. Any chugger who accosted me would have me suggest we make a deal. I'll donate to whatever charity you're pimping for if you do the same to mine.
Only ever had one person agree to it. Annoyingly by that time the form I'd been carrying in my wallet had segmented into quarters so no deal was struck. I'm thinking a blood oath might do the trick, next time; at the very least, I'll suggest a handspitandshake.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 08:56:20 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 27 November, 2009, 08:56:20 PM
Yes. Yes look into their eyes too much as he you're grateful that someone should stoop to pedal to you. ANYONE! That works as well.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
And how many of these chuggers are even involved with the charity they're acting for?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 09:09:06 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 09:09:06 PM
Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
And how many of these chuggers are even involved with the charity they're acting for?
Not many. It's just a job.
(I know the question was rhetorical; I just couldn't resist echoing the sentiment.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 09:26:31 PM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 27 November, 2009, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 27 November, 2009, 09:09:06 PMNot many. It's just a job.
That didn't go down too well with one chugger I politely enquired of. I think what annoys me most is the guilt they throw at passers-by. "Oh, surely you can spare only a fiver a month."
Yes, luv. And if I'm able to, you most definitely can with that extra two quid an hour you're earning than me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 27 November, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 27 November, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
N-DUBZ....
What a pile of shit.
V
What a pile of shit.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: HdE on 27 November, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
By rights, all you should have to say is TPS and the telesales person should apologise profusely and hang up in short order. They'll then tell their boss and the number will be blocked from that site. Sometimes accidents happen, but more than once from the same firm is taking the piss.
Yes, this is indeed the standard tactic I employ now.
However, I keep having the experience that as soon as I even START to mention this, the caller hangs up, thus bringing the conversation to a swift close.
Not on.
Really, I won't be happy until I see telephone sales cales - and in fact, ALL business calls to peoples homes outlawed. I just have zero tolerance for it.
All I need is for all you guys to vote me into government so that I can legislate and make this happen. VOTE FOR ME!!!
I'm not corrupt(that much)!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 10:04:13 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 10:04:13 PM
Ndubz? Agreed. A bigger shower of shitehawks has yet to be discovered by your human science.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 27 November, 2009, 10:14:05 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 27 November, 2009, 10:14:05 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 27 November, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
N-DUBZ....
What a pile of shit.
V
I've had many things sail over my head during my life - they are the first thing to sail BENEATH it
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 10:22:33 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 November, 2009, 10:22:33 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 27 November, 2009, 10:04:13 PM
Ndubz? Agreed. A bigger shower of shitehawks has yet to be discovered by your human science.
I didnt realise that all that Ali G stuff was still in.
Its all a cliche/stereotype.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 28 November, 2009, 12:06:32 AM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 28 November, 2009, 12:06:32 AM
I take it nobody wants to start a N-Dubz singalong tonight then.
filip
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 November, 2009, 10:00:50 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 November, 2009, 10:00:50 PM
I used to work for a charity and when their chuggers would stop me in the street my usual response would be "I work for them, but I wouldn't be a member" which really was how I felt. It was just a job for me, whereas most of the people working for them were really into it. Bunch of trustafarians.
As for the chuggers, virtually all of them work for agencies and know very little about the organisations they are collecting for. It can be quite easy to catch them out.
In the past when I would talk to charity muggers all they would get from me is "do you really think I am going to give my bank details out on the street."
As for the chuggers, virtually all of them work for agencies and know very little about the organisations they are collecting for. It can be quite easy to catch them out.
In the past when I would talk to charity muggers all they would get from me is "do you really think I am going to give my bank details out on the street."
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 November, 2009, 11:26:54 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 November, 2009, 11:26:54 PM
Long ago I used to do street collection for Amnesty International flag days, as a volunteer I hasten to add. Sweet cheeses, it was hard work - every second person seemed to have an axe to grind. I lost count of the number of times I had a finger pointed in my face while being loudly accused of wanting to put terrorists back on the street. I can't imagine trying to do that sign-up crap the chuggers do for a living.
Since those days I've restricted my charity stuff to doing actual work for free, well away from the uncharitable public.
Since those days I've restricted my charity stuff to doing actual work for free, well away from the uncharitable public.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 11:36:15 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 11:36:15 PM
I've worked for charities in the past, paid and unpaid. The general public is never ruder, more short-sighted or selfish than when confronted by someone who's reminding then they don't actually have that much to be upset about.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 November, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 November, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
I remember working in an Oxfam shop and some woman complained that she found the prices of some items of donated clothing too expensive and reminded me that Oxfam is supposed to be a charity and that Britain is "a poor country."
I told her that Oxfam is a charity that was set up to help people who are actually too poor to buy donated clothes from an Oxfam shop at any price.
I told her that Oxfam is a charity that was set up to help people who are actually too poor to buy donated clothes from an Oxfam shop at any price.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 29 November, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 29 November, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 11:36:15 PMThe general public is never ruder, more short-sighted or selfish than when confronted by someone who's reminding then they don't actually have that much to be upset about.
Thing is, no chugger has any way of knowing that. As-likely-as-it-might-be-for-perhaps-the-majority-of-people-stopped, it's assumed of everyone. Guilt-tripping potential donors is surely far less effective than appealing to someone's better nature. If nothing else, it's bloody discourteous.
Despite it's militant nature, however, most chuggers thankfully seem content to accept a simple "Sorry, no" and move on to someone else.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 29 November, 2009, 12:02:24 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 29 November, 2009, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 11:36:15 PMOr, to put it another way, when being accosted by some self-righteous, dreadlocked twat while attempting to go about their own personal business.
I've worked for charities in the past, paid and unpaid. The general public is never ruder, more short-sighted or selfish than when confronted by someone who's reminding then they don't actually have that much to be upset about.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: worldshown on 29 November, 2009, 01:14:05 PM
Post by: worldshown on 29 November, 2009, 01:14:05 PM
I seem to be a magnet for chuggers anytime I go near Queen Street in Cardiff, one of the reasons that I don't go into town much.
However, before them, there were the Jesus Army.
One Easter Saturday morning, I was in town and about five different people came up to me in the space of half an hour all with the same spiel. "Hi. Are you local? I'm not lost or anything, I just wanted to know if you would come to church with me tomorrow". Politely refusing their requests as I have been an athiest for many years, I returned home to an article on the local news warning that the Jesus Army had set up in town and were recruiting by targeting "people who look like losers or loners". Cheeky bastards!
However, before them, there were the Jesus Army.
One Easter Saturday morning, I was in town and about five different people came up to me in the space of half an hour all with the same spiel. "Hi. Are you local? I'm not lost or anything, I just wanted to know if you would come to church with me tomorrow". Politely refusing their requests as I have been an athiest for many years, I returned home to an article on the local news warning that the Jesus Army had set up in town and were recruiting by targeting "people who look like losers or loners". Cheeky bastards!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:16:13 PM
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 29 November, 2009, 12:02:24 PMQuote from: Mike Gloady on 28 November, 2009, 11:36:15 PMOr, to put it another way, when being accosted by some self-righteous, dreadlocked twat while attempting to go about their own personal business.
I've worked for charities in the past, paid and unpaid. The general public is never ruder, more short-sighted or selfish than when confronted by someone who's reminding then they don't actually have that much to be upset about.
You do get some of the self-righteous twattish variety and also some of the very nice and polite variety. What all of them seem to forget, attitude problem or not, is that the average spug like myself frequently gets stopped in the street by people collecting for charity, and gets them coming round door-to-door all the time to boot. So when they're standing there telling me "surely £5 a month is not going to have an impact on your lifestyle, sir.", they're failing to take into account that if I gave £X a month or week to every worthy cause who ever asked it of me I would have zero income left.
Secondly, if you* stop somebody in the street or turn up at their door, more than likely they are on their way somewhere or in the middle of something. You don't have a RIGHT to their time. You may also have hit on somebody with circumstances you have no way of being aware of. The number of people out there struggling to cope on the income they have because they are supporting an elderly or sick relative or spouse, for example, or for any number of other reasons, is greater than you probably imagine.
Therefore, if you think that I should contribute to your charity you are going to have to A) happen to catch me at a good moment, B) persuade me that your cause is MORE worthy than the rest, and C) be prepared for the fact that if I choose to contribute to your cause then another worthy cause or causes may loose out as a result.
As for the ones who try to insist you sign a DD mandate on the spot, right there and then, this annoys me incredibly. I find it quite outrageously rude, to be honest. I'm an intelligent and discerning human being, I have access to the internet and any number of other sources of information, and there is NO WAY I am going to contribute to ANY charity on a regular basis without thoroughly researching it first to find out about all the stuff you didn't want to tell me. Yes, I have been known to be pretty rude at this stage.
I also am well aware that some charities use direct marketing agencies for this kind of activity, so the people who turn up at my door may not give a flying toss about whatever charity they are collecting for and in fact may well be on commission. If the person insists on me signing a DDM I immediately become suspicious that this is the case, and this in itself makes me disinclined to contribute to the charity in question. My money should be going where it can do the most good, and your commission isn't in the running, bucko.
*The word 'you' is used to refer to charity collectors in the above text not to imply that I am addressing this at any member of the board, but merely for grammatical convenience.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: worldshown on 29 November, 2009, 01:14:05 PMHowever, before them, there were the Jesus Army.
One of these once stepped out in front of me whilst I was hurriedly crossing a plaza (Teviot square, if you happen to be familiar with Edinburgh) and asked "Do you believe in God?", to which I replied "Which one?" and carried on walking. The confused look on his face was priceless.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 November, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 November, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
Quote from: worldshown on 29 November, 2009, 01:14:05 PM
I seem to be a magnet for chuggers anytime I go near Queen Street in Cardiff, one of the reasons that I don't go into town much.
However, before them, there were the Jesus Army.
One Easter Saturday morning, I was in town and about five different people came up to me in the space of half an hour all with the same spiel. "Hi. Are you local? I'm not lost or anything, I just wanted to know if you would come to church with me tomorrow". Politely refusing their requests as I have been an athiest for many years, I returned home to an article on the local news warning that the Jesus Army had set up in town and were recruiting by targeting "people who look like losers or loners". Cheeky bastards!
The Jesus Army are a cult.
Years and years ago i was continually harrassed or targetted by Scientologists who were trying to sell books and recruit.
My patience ran out in the end and i warned this particularly persistant individual that if he stopped me again in the street at any time then i would hit him in the face hard.
End of problem.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 29 November, 2009, 02:29:28 PMYears and years ago i was continually harrassed or targetted by Scientologists who were trying to sell books and recruit.
One of my mates did the Scientologist's "personality test" for a laugh. Turns out (according to the test) he was in a sorry state and desparately in need of urgent help to get his life back on track. Funny that, he's one of the most balanced, happy and successful people I know.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Felix Vane on 02 December, 2009, 02:39:49 PM
Post by: Felix Vane on 02 December, 2009, 02:39:49 PM
You know who I blame? Gok fucking Won. That man is by no means homosexual, He loves playing with womens tits too much.
We're not buying it Gok.
We're not buying it Gok.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 02:53:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 02:53:18 PM
Yeah, he's a booby-fan hiding under the acceptable face of gayness to secretly enjoy squeezing lady boobs.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 December, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 December, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
Chuggers are easy.
We were in Edinburgh last week and one casually wandered near.
'Hi guys, how are you?'
'Fine,'I replied,'Yourself?' and walked on.
Easy.
We were in Edinburgh last week and one casually wandered near.
'Hi guys, how are you?'
'Fine,'I replied,'Yourself?' and walked on.
Easy.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
That's pretty much what I do. If they're working for a charity I know something about I'll have a chat with them for sure (if I've got time).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 December, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 December, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
The Boots adverts that show women as part of 'the sisterhood' but just makes them look like shrieking harpies, whilst simultaniously portraying men as inferior. Note to the MEN who comissioned this crap - sexism isn't acceptable just because you've reversed it ok?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 02 December, 2009, 04:38:16 PM
Post by: HdE on 02 December, 2009, 04:38:16 PM
Being self employed, here's something I don't understand the appeal (or to be more honest, the logic) of.
Haggling for prices.
I priced a job today where the client rudely stated 'I'm not paying any more than £X - that was what the last guy quoted me!
Well go and hire him, then.
A job costs what it costs. If I could do things for cheaper prices, I would.
I love the flip-side to this one as well - people grumbling about the shoddy work done by a tradesman working for a pittance. Goes to prove my theory that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Haggling for prices.
I priced a job today where the client rudely stated 'I'm not paying any more than £X - that was what the last guy quoted me!
Well go and hire him, then.
A job costs what it costs. If I could do things for cheaper prices, I would.
I love the flip-side to this one as well - people grumbling about the shoddy work done by a tradesman working for a pittance. Goes to prove my theory that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Proudhuff on 02 December, 2009, 04:51:04 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 02 December, 2009, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 02 December, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
Chuggers are easy.
We were in Edinburgh last week and one casually wandered near.
'Hi guys, how are you?'
'Fine,'I replied,'Yourself?' and walked on.
Easy.
I find Fixing them with a stare as you approach while think I FECKING DARE YOU works too ;D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 December, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 December, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: HdE on 02 December, 2009, 04:38:16 PM
Being self employed, here's something I don't understand the appeal (or to be more honest, the logic) of.
Haggling for prices.
I priced a job today where the client rudely stated 'I'm not paying any more than £X - that was what the last guy quoted me!
Well go and hire him, then.
A job costs what it costs. If I could do things for cheaper prices, I would.
I love the flip-side to this one as well - people grumbling about the shoddy work done by a tradesman working for a pittance. Goes to prove my theory that if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
I am always prepared to haggle with a client but it depends what i am haggling against and/or by how much and i only judge it on that basis and my impression of the nature of the client who is asking.
one thing i will not do ever is compete with cheap foreign labour and their ridiculously cheap rates.I just wont do it and its an affrontery to even be asked.Having said that its never happened yet but i know this problem exists.
Further to that in my business you can pay an expensive price and still get monkeys and this has happened plenty of times or even nearly all the time.In my business 90 percent of them are monkeys.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 05:36:06 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 December, 2009, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 02 December, 2009, 04:51:04 PMBit ruder though. Easier on the old blood pressure to be nice to folks unless they give a reason to be otherwise. That's how it works for me. It also makes the moral high ground that much comfier.
I find Fixing them with a stare as you approach while think I FECKING DARE YOU works too ;D
Wild - agreed. But then we've discussed this before.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 December, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 December, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
QuoteI find Fixing them with a stare as you approach while think I FECKING DARE YOU works too
Heh! I do that one occasionally too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 December, 2009, 06:13:24 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 December, 2009, 06:13:24 PM
I have variations on replies but they mainly go something like this.
Childrens charities - "I have one thanks"
Animal charities - "I hate all animals"
Environmental charities - "I don't believe it"
I once got into a heated debate with one charity bloke and in the end he wanted to get away from me as I was putting my point across but I wouldn't let him escape. I said "hang on mate you stopped me going about my business so you can hear me out" or something along those lines. I only did it it cause I wasn't in a hurry and felt like having a laugh!
Childrens charities - "I have one thanks"
Animal charities - "I hate all animals"
Environmental charities - "I don't believe it"
I once got into a heated debate with one charity bloke and in the end he wanted to get away from me as I was putting my point across but I wouldn't let him escape. I said "hang on mate you stopped me going about my business so you can hear me out" or something along those lines. I only did it it cause I wasn't in a hurry and felt like having a laugh!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 02 December, 2009, 09:59:08 PM
Post by: HdE on 02 December, 2009, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 02 December, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
one thing i will not do ever is compete with cheap foreign labour and their ridiculously cheap rates.I just wont do it and its an affrontery to even be asked.Having said that its never happened yet but i know this problem exists.
Further to that in my business you can pay an expensive price and still get monkeys and this has happened plenty of times or even nearly all the time.In my business 90 percent of them are monkeys.
Heh! This made me smile! It's so true!
I don't have to deal with competition from foreign labour in my line of work, but there is some competition from other tradesmen.
Now, my beef is that in my job, you deal with the customers face to face quite frequently. So you get to make an impression. And however good that impression is, it frequently counts for squat. They'd rather hire somebody of obviously dubious credentials and character, just because they're cheap.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 03 December, 2009, 12:24:52 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 03 December, 2009, 12:24:52 AM
And what do they mean when they, say, " if you could see the flu virus? " " Um Thats why Nature doesn't allow it!" Idiots. What a mess air would be if it colour coded all the germs? I hate cheats.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 03 December, 2009, 12:44:02 AM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 03 December, 2009, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 29 November, 2009, 02:24:24 PMI used the reverse argument on a Jehovah's witness when he once asked me: "which God do you believe in?" I replied: "Why, how many do you think there are?" That shut him up.
One of these once stepped out in front of me whilst I was hurriedly crossing a plaza... and asked "Do you believe in God?", to which I replied "Which one?" and carried on walking. The confused look on his face was priceless.
He was once giving out leaflets in the bus which I think is really out of order. Others politely accepted though their reactions showed they weren't interested. He tried to give a leaflet to me but I told him he shouldn't bother as his leaflet will just go in the bin so he backed off. He seems to remember me now and hasn't approached me again.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 December, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 December, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
I always make a point to be expecially rude to religious maniacs hawking their baseless concepts at me in public. They failed to indoctrinate me as a child, that means I get to plague them all until their "Cod" sees fit to remove me from this planet...
Utter, utter scum. Hate them.
Utter, utter scum. Hate them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 03 December, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 03 December, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
I annoyed a Jesus Army freak, for smiling as I listened. I think he thought I was being the eff word for sarcastic. I had to explain that it was God's grin at how his minions were keeping up the good word.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 03 December, 2009, 05:02:34 PM
Post by: HdE on 03 December, 2009, 05:02:34 PM
Not wanting to spark a massive argument here - and I certainly ain't gonna persist on this point - but, seriosuly - I don't understand the appeal of bashing folks for speaking to others about their beliefs.
I think that's a fine and honourable thing for sincere people to do.
Being fair, I reckon it's totally acceptable for folks to not want to discuss these things with other people. It may just be that the whole scene just ain't for them. But to be rude to these people by default? Seems unnecessary to me.
Of course, there are some people involved with various different religions who are indeed pretty nasty pieces of work. And some unsavoury, distasteful or downright nasty things can happen at the hands of people professing to be of one faith or another. But those people aren't the sum total of people expressing faith.
I have respect for people who follow codes of religious beliefs out of sincerity, even though I don't consider myself a spiritual / religious person. And I've had my share of bad experiences at the hands of the so-called faithful.
Hope this doesn't offend anybody's sensibilities. Just something I feel quite strongly has to be said when these points of discussion come up.
I think that's a fine and honourable thing for sincere people to do.
Being fair, I reckon it's totally acceptable for folks to not want to discuss these things with other people. It may just be that the whole scene just ain't for them. But to be rude to these people by default? Seems unnecessary to me.
Of course, there are some people involved with various different religions who are indeed pretty nasty pieces of work. And some unsavoury, distasteful or downright nasty things can happen at the hands of people professing to be of one faith or another. But those people aren't the sum total of people expressing faith.
I have respect for people who follow codes of religious beliefs out of sincerity, even though I don't consider myself a spiritual / religious person. And I've had my share of bad experiences at the hands of the so-called faithful.
Hope this doesn't offend anybody's sensibilities. Just something I feel quite strongly has to be said when these points of discussion come up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 December, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 December, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
Seeing as I have a personal, deeply held and moral argument AGAINST religon in all it's forms, if these people want to hassle me about MY VIEWS (you know the ones, the ones all the evidene point towards, those ones) without my asking for it, well, I reckon they can have a little taste of just how litle respect I have for their worldview (you know the one, the one that - despite being just an opinion with no evdence to back it up, somehow gets special treatment).
Grrrrrr.
Grrrrrr.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 December, 2009, 03:46:17 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 December, 2009, 03:46:17 AM
The Jesus Army I came across were lovely people as opposed to storiesI'd heard about them. Lots of mentally disabled people relyed on them and their bus. But this guy really was a freak. He switched on me like a jack-knifing truck. He'd gotten from sincere apologetic opener to psycho paranoid in a gap of 2 seconds. Here was I with nothing better to do but shut up and let him speak, understanding and listening and he's beginning to ask me he I find what he says is funny? As he to check he I'd been cataly listening! He creeped me out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 06:49:26 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 06:49:26 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 02 December, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
I am always prepared to haggle with a client but it depends what i am haggling against and/or by how much and i only judge it on that basis and my impression of the nature of the client who is asking.
I've no problem haggling with clients before agreeing to do a job - that's fair enough, generally they're assuming you've tacked on 10% for this very purpose and they want it gone, even if you haven't. By getting a reduction on the initially quoted price they feel they're being smart and getting a good deal, and if they're acting for a client of their own it's a nice thing to be able to report back. Where it can't genuinely be done for any less, I maintain that I gave them my 'best price' (which I always do, unless I really don't like the look of the job, where I would build in a 'hassle margin' to cover the inevitable shite that will unfold, and hope they'll take the hint and go away), but look at ways they could supply site accommodation, machinery, materials, power, security etc. themselves to reduce the amount they're paying me. Even if it costs the exact same amount, at least they can see where it's all going.
What I cannot stand is when people agree to your fee, and then start haggling after the job is complete. That is so far out of order that I no longer put up with it, and fight pretty savagely to prevent it. Initially I foun dit very hard, because clients often have armies of QS's and Site Engineers whose sole job in life is not, as you may have imagined, to get their project completed in good order, but to relentlessly harry the contractors and sub-contractors with a view to screwing them out of the maximum amount of their quoted fees.
It sounds obvious, but the most useful trick I've discovered is to be scrupulously honest and maintain detailed and completely open records and charging structures - we charge by the hour within a tight budget of hours per person, and if someone is 15 minutes late to site it gets noted on the timesheet, and I don't charge the client. The client can see the timesheet on site whenever he wants, see the rates against the hours, the receipts for expenses etc. I then write reams of progress reports, meeting notes etc. and forward them to everyone. It's horribly time-consuming, but it's the only way I've found that works.
When the inevitable fight emerges, my records are always correct, have been repeatedly viewed, and are obscenely detailed. The weight of paper determines the outcome.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 04 December, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 04 December, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
QuoteI then write reams of progress reports, meeting notes etc. and forward them to everyone. It's horribly time-consuming, but it's the only way I've found that works.
Remember to factor the costs involved in that into your quotation for the job!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 04 December, 2009, 01:15:45 PM
Post by: golledge100 on 04 December, 2009, 01:15:45 PM
QuoteNot wanting to spark a massive argument here - and I certainly ain't gonna persist on this point - but, seriosuly - I don't understand the appeal of bashing folks for speaking to others about their beliefs.
As I politely explained to a pair of Jehovas witnesses who came knocking on my door recently ( who seemed very surprised that the Bible they believe in so literally contains such hilarious "real life stories" as the tale of Balam the talking donkey- interesting to think that so many deeply religious people seem to know less about the bible than i do.) It is no business of mine what beliefs you hold and I will not judge you for them, but if i came knocking on every door in your neighbourhood trying to convinve everybody of the non existence of God and spouting passages from "The God delusion" and "On the origin of Species" you'd probably be incredibly offended. Just like the stink that was caused by Dawkins atheist bus campaign after seeing countless adverts for the church- Its the hypocrisy of it all that really offends me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 01:18:35 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 04 December, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
Remember to factor the costs involved in that into your quotation for the job!
Shit! :-*
Sadly what actually happens is that I do this non-chargeable stuff in my own time, unless it's a State job when they expect you to charge a few hours a week for 'project management' i.e. talking about working instead of working. Best practice, donchano.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 December, 2009, 01:31:34 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 December, 2009, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: HdE on 03 December, 2009, 05:02:34 PM
Not wanting to spark a massive argument here - and I certainly ain't gonna persist on this point - but, seriosuly - I don't understand the appeal of bashing folks for speaking to others about their beliefs.
I think that's a fine and honourable thing for sincere people to do.
Being fair, I reckon it's totally acceptable for folks to not want to discuss these things with other people. It may just be that the whole scene just ain't for them. But to be rude to these people by default? Seems unnecessary to me.
Of course, there are some people involved with various different religions who are indeed pretty nasty pieces of work. And some unsavoury, distasteful or downright nasty things can happen at the hands of people professing to be of one faith or another. But those people aren't the sum total of people expressing faith.
I have respect for people who follow codes of religious beliefs out of sincerity, even though I don't consider myself a spiritual / religious person. And I've had my share of bad experiences at the hands of the so-called faithful.
Hope this doesn't offend anybody's sensibilities. Just something I feel quite strongly has to be said when these points of discussion come up.
I think exactly the same.
Unless its someone who is being obnoxious about their beliefs then i wont engage them and i dont even discuss religion with anyone as i just keep well away from it.
I wont disrespect or ridicule someone elses beliefs either unless they ask for it.
If you are not interested in hearing about someones religious beliefs then just say you are not interested and leave it at that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 04 December, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 04 December, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
If I'm in the mood, I love a good theological argument with the bible brigade. I usually ask them why they are wearing clothes of more than one colour as Leviticus clearly states this is against God's law (it gives it about the same prominence as the bit about homosexuality, and they're usually keen to follow that one!). I then like to discuss all the diffrent authors of the bible, the origins of the actual texts and the way the bible has been editted and translated by the catholic church over the centuries. By this point they're usually backing away with a fixed polite smile.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 02:11:09 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 02:11:09 PM
One of my personal weaknesses is innocently asking nominally Catholic non-mass-going mates who are merrily getting their kids baptised what they think of the Immaculate Conception, especially since the life of St. Anne is one of my favourites. I used to feel bad about this, until I was witness to a pub conversation where two intelligent men with baptised children wondered how the Feast of the Immaculate Conception could be on December 8th when Jesus was born on the 25th. And most of our schools are run by religious orders.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 December, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 04 December, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 04 December, 2009, 01:15:45 PMQuoteNot wanting to spark a massive argument here - and I certainly ain't gonna persist on this point - but, seriosuly - I don't understand the appeal of bashing folks for speaking to others about their beliefs.
As I politely explained to a pair of Jehovas witnesses who came knocking on my door recently ( who seemed very surprised that the Bible they believe in so literally contains such hilarious "real life stories" as the tale of Balam the talking donkey- interesting to think that so many deeply religious people seem to know less about the bible than i do.) It is no business of mine what beliefs you hold and I will not judge you for them, but if i came knocking on every door in your neighbourhood trying to convinve everybody of the non existence of God and spouting passages from "The God delusion" and "On the origin of Species" you'd probably be incredibly offended. Just like the stink that was caused by Dawkins atheist bus campaign after seeing countless adverts for the church- Its the hypocrisy of it all that really offends me.
Agreed. I don't go about telling religious people it's all made up and about as true as Zeus or The Cat in The Hat, that would be obnoxious. If they knock on my door or stop me in the street, I'm quite happy to have a go and use that self-same arguement with them. Oddly they fail to see the point. The hypocrisy is one of the things that annoys me, but asking that your PERSONAL VIEWS have more weight than mine just because they're based on a story written in the Bronze Age just pisses me off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 04 December, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
Quote...it's all made up and about as true as Zeus
Seriously Mike, you do not want to talk trash about the Olympian Gods - especially not Zeus. That's one bad-ass Neolithic god right there, and he didn't need a bunch of moaning calf-worshippers to do his dirty work. That guy cut his brothers out of father's stomach, married his sister and fathered all the Muses, the Nemean Lion (!), Heracles, Athena, Apollo, Helen and the bloody FATES, and incubated the gestating god of wine in his thigh. Bad-mouth him too often and there'll be a white bull at the door with designs on your poop-shute.
As opposed to the other bloke with his'only begotten son' and some flooding, what a wuss.
Respect.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 04 December, 2009, 06:12:17 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 04 December, 2009, 06:12:17 PM
The Immaculate Conception, a story that implies Jesus's mother was also his sister. A fine symbol for modern society.
Religious zealots annoy religious people as well. I once had a pair of J. Witnesses turn up on my door step right in the middle of an episode of Rome. I quickly told them that I already had a God, then went back inside.
It annoys me that people often use the word religion when they really mean creationism. Evolution is a great thing, but I believe that I should treat others as I would like to be treated myself, and I believe that if others follow this way of thinking, it will make the world a better place. I was brought up in a Christian family, and I follow this line of thought as best I can in my daily life. Therefore I am religious.
A friend once asked me why I couldn't have figured out that one rule for myself, but I wouldn't claim to have figured out evolution for myself, so why should I claim that I would have worked out how to socially interact with others on my own? Also, I didn't work it out on my own, so this argument is besides the point. Plagiary is frowned upon today, and I would look a tit if I tried to claim I created my entire world view without any influence from those who live around me.
Religious zealots annoy religious people as well. I once had a pair of J. Witnesses turn up on my door step right in the middle of an episode of Rome. I quickly told them that I already had a God, then went back inside.
It annoys me that people often use the word religion when they really mean creationism. Evolution is a great thing, but I believe that I should treat others as I would like to be treated myself, and I believe that if others follow this way of thinking, it will make the world a better place. I was brought up in a Christian family, and I follow this line of thought as best I can in my daily life. Therefore I am religious.
A friend once asked me why I couldn't have figured out that one rule for myself, but I wouldn't claim to have figured out evolution for myself, so why should I claim that I would have worked out how to socially interact with others on my own? Also, I didn't work it out on my own, so this argument is besides the point. Plagiary is frowned upon today, and I would look a tit if I tried to claim I created my entire world view without any influence from those who live around me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 December, 2009, 08:27:51 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 December, 2009, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: HdE on 03 December, 2009, 05:02:34 PMIndeed, if you genuinely believe that only the members of your particular sect are going to be swept up in the rapture while everyone else is consigned to eternal damnation it almost becomes a moral imperative to proselytise at every given opportunity. Unfortunately, I'm not a believer and I hate my personal space being invaded by the increasing army of people trying to promote/sell/convert things in teh street.
Being fair, I reckon it's totally acceptable for folks to not want to discuss these things with other people. It may just be that the whole scene just ain't for them. But to be rude to these people by default? Seems unnecessary to me.
As I was walking down Buchanan Street last night, I was dumbfounded to see a straggly-bearded Shelter signer-upper actually grabbing people by the shoulder to try and engage them. As I approached it became clear he was doing it systematically and my initial amazement gave way to an incandescent rage accompanied with the chest-tightening grip of the fear that he might do it to me. However, I also nursed a twisted desire for him to reach out for me just so I could scream at him to keep his hands to himself. Then I was past and the moment was gone.
To paraphrase a great thinker: I think I may be in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 December, 2009, 09:11:22 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 December, 2009, 09:11:22 PM
Aw poor religious militants. F@*k 'em and what they to to individuals behind closed doors. This is not a beginning of an arguement. Its the end of it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 01:22:26 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 01:22:26 AM
QuoteThe Immaculate Conception, a story that implies Jesus's mother was also his sister.
Not really. Joachim was the father in the usual manner, Anne just got a special exemption from passing on Original Sin so she could birth the perfect vessel for God's twisted designs. Which is even more screwed up than a bit of Leitrim happy families, IMHO. And none of it in the Bible, I might add.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 05 December, 2009, 01:44:40 AM
Post by: Cthulouis on 05 December, 2009, 01:44:40 AM
Indeed, there are many levels on which the joke fails. Technically if we are all the children of God the web of incest spreads much further.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 05 December, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
Post by: vzzbux on 05 December, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
On the subject of the immaculate conception. I am going to hell anyway. How could Joseph believe Mary that she just suddenly became pregnant? If it was my bird I would have gone spare.
Council estate: Mary :- "John I am pregnant"
John :- "But your a virgin, we haven't even done it yet"
Mary :- "I know, it must be the son of god"
John :- "you lying bitch who is he?"
John slaps Mary around, puts her in hospital and slices up the pet donkey in the back garden.
John gets 15 years in prison and Mary loses the unborn baby.
V
Council estate: Mary :- "John I am pregnant"
John :- "But your a virgin, we haven't even done it yet"
Mary :- "I know, it must be the son of god"
John :- "you lying bitch who is he?"
John slaps Mary around, puts her in hospital and slices up the pet donkey in the back garden.
John gets 15 years in prison and Mary loses the unborn baby.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 December, 2009, 09:17:40 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 December, 2009, 09:17:40 AM
My how times have changed vzzbux ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: golledge100 on 05 December, 2009, 10:29:11 AM
Post by: golledge100 on 05 December, 2009, 10:29:11 AM
QuoteThe hypocrisy is one of the things that annoys me, but asking that your PERSONAL VIEWS have more weight than mine just because they're based on a story written in the Bronze Age just pisses me off.
This sums it up perfectly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhQLt1vbWU
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 02:36:41 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 02:36:41 PM
Good link that. I've heard ALL those arguements offered with a straight face - honesy.
And WHY have I heard them? Because annoying people think it's their Cod-given right to get in my face if I answer a meaningless question like "Do you believe in Cod" honestly. Idiots.
And WHY have I heard them? Because annoying people think it's their Cod-given right to get in my face if I answer a meaningless question like "Do you believe in Cod" honestly. Idiots.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 December, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 December, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
All of which reminds me of the Wild West Wendy strip Bou and I did a few years ago...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 December, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 December, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
I find that i have as much contempt for the more extreme aspects of religion and its value systems as i have for the amorality or value-neutral worldview of certain sections of the Atheist community.
The advocates of the more extreme end of Cultural Marxism/Atheism and their values or lack of like the far left sicken me as much as the babblings of the delusional religious and political right.
I have no time for either as they are all C****.
The advocates of the more extreme end of Cultural Marxism/Atheism and their values or lack of like the far left sicken me as much as the babblings of the delusional religious and political right.
I have no time for either as they are all C****.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:11:25 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:11:25 PM
Quote...the amorality or value-neutral worldview of certain sections of the Atheist community.
I have yet to meet these hypothetical people. I'm not sure that moral relativism actually exists outside of a Student Union bar - as soon as the aspiring amoralist meets a real-world situation unspoken morals quickly assert themselves.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 04:24:01 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 04:24:01 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:11:25 PMQuote...the amorality or value-neutral worldview of certain sections of the Atheist community.
I have yet to meet these hypothetical people. I'm not sure that moral relativism actually exists outside of a Student Union bar - as soon as the aspiring amoralist meets a real-world situation unspoken morals quickly assert themselves.
Agreed, TB. Although I'm really thankful, there are certain types of people who push my buttons and make horrific violence, normally the kind of thing that makes me do a mini-sick at just the THOUGHT of it (the real stuff, not Dredd or Slaine), seem like SUCH a good idea. Meeting any of these folks is likely to turn me murderous...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 December, 2009, 04:33:49 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 05 December, 2009, 04:33:49 PM
QuoteOn the subject of the immaculate conception. I am going to hell anyway. How could Joseph believe Mary that she just suddenly became pregnant?
I'm getting confused. I though the immaculate conception referred to Mary being conceived not Jesus.
Or was that the Madonna concept album of the same name?
Anyway, nothing wrong with people being religious and having faith and generally trying to be excellent to each other. It's just when it all gets organised and they start making rules like "Oooh you can't do that" it gets a bit off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:50:43 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 05 December, 2009, 04:33:49 PM
I though the immaculate conception referred to Mary being conceived not Jesus.
You are correct. I should never have brought it up, but it always amuses me that so many avowed Catholics I meet don't realise this - it's one thing to feign alleigance to a religion as part of your cultural identity, and then aggressively foist the supposed superiority of that culture on others, but it's another to have no bloody idea what it is you're supposed to believe. This stuff isn't even in the Bible, so a failure to read that isn't even an excuse, especially when huge numbers of my countrymen have been educated by the religious orders. It irritates me even more when half the country seems to get the 8th December as a day off.
Anyway, turns out to no-one's surprise that the God-of-just-about-everything-is-unclean is such a prig that a Virgin birth wasn't good enough for his beloved clone Son (and hey, if it was good enough for Li'l Ani...), the Virgin in question had to be born without the stain of Original Sin - so Anne got to tup Joachim and conceive Mary under a special dispensation that exempted her from the shame and pain all women since Eve have been cursed with. He's a ruddy charmer, that God.
The life of Anne is actually a really good story, and the subject of some of the most beautiful medieval frescoes of the Greek church. Like all myths of gods and mortals, I enjoy it for what it is. But at least I don't pretend to believe in it when I haven't the first bloody clue about it. Here endeth the lesson.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 05 December, 2009, 04:52:55 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 05 December, 2009, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 05 December, 2009, 04:33:49 PMIt does. This misunderstanding was the joke in Tordelback's original post. It's possiibly easier to excuse the error if you weren't brought up in a country soaked in hundreds of years of Catholic dogma.QuoteOn the subject of the immaculate conception. I am going to hell anyway. How could Joseph believe Mary that she just suddenly became pregnant?I'm getting confused. I though the immaculate conception referred to Mary being conceived not Jesus.
(I initially typed Catholic dogman, which gives me an idea.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 04:55:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 December, 2009, 04:55:23 PM
Catholic Dogman sounds like a very GOOD idea.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 December, 2009, 06:12:30 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 December, 2009, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 05 December, 2009, 04:11:25 PMQuote...the amorality or value-neutral worldview of certain sections of the Atheist community.
I have yet to meet these hypothetical people. I'm not sure that moral relativism actually exists outside of a Student Union bar - as soon as the aspiring amoralist meets a real-world situation unspoken morals quickly assert themselves.
I have met them online and thats as close as i want to get to them .
I find that in a real world situation when confronted with this garbage you have to assert your own moralistic values because thats all you can do and also hope that there are others who share your values.
For example in a real world hypothetical situation if i had a family and lived in the states and my children were in the public school system then i might find myself vociferously objecting to the schools choice of reading material for my children concerning certain subjects.
So in that sense you are correct because i dont buy into the views of these self appointed arbiters of moralistic values wether its the state or the Church that is responsible and ultimately as institutions both are as evil and amoral as each other.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 07 December, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 07 December, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Kid A seems to be quite high in a number of "Best album of teh decade" type lists. I like it and all, but really? That good?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 December, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 December, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Kid A is dreadful. As is pretty much everything Radiohead have done since. One or two "interesting" tunes on otherwise weak albums. Emperor's new clothes (no, not YOU Emp).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 07 December, 2009, 04:02:17 PM
Post by: HdE on 07 December, 2009, 04:02:17 PM
Yup. Radiohead were good for about two albums, in my opinion. Everything went downhill after that. OK Computer has that feeling where you can detect the band and producers gulping and realising they have nowhere else to go...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
Kid A is great. Admittedly, 'Idioteque' and 'Morning Bell' are the highlights, in descending order.
I don't understand the appeal of adverts that promote the idea men are better looking without facial hair. I know they are intended to sell depilatory devices, but still - why do they persist in using models who are better looking before they shave? The latest is the Boots one - there's some Rowan Atkinson-looking guy with a 'tache, who shaves it off, and then looks less attractive than before, but the chicks still cream anyway. I don't get it.
I don't understand the appeal of adverts that promote the idea men are better looking without facial hair. I know they are intended to sell depilatory devices, but still - why do they persist in using models who are better looking before they shave? The latest is the Boots one - there's some Rowan Atkinson-looking guy with a 'tache, who shaves it off, and then looks less attractive than before, but the chicks still cream anyway. I don't get it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:12:02 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:12:02 PM
Agreed on the hairyness, Ush.
He looks like a spiv after he's shaved, before he shaves he looks pretty good.
I'd never shave if I could get away with it but 1. I look like a rapist with beardy bits. 2. My beardy bits are uneven. 3. There are huge patches of white in them which make me look like Liam Neeson in Batman Begins and just as old. 4. My brother's kids and my lady deserve something to kiss that doesn't leave them scratching for hours afterwards.
Sigh.
He looks like a spiv after he's shaved, before he shaves he looks pretty good.
I'd never shave if I could get away with it but 1. I look like a rapist with beardy bits. 2. My beardy bits are uneven. 3. There are huge patches of white in them which make me look like Liam Neeson in Batman Begins and just as old. 4. My brother's kids and my lady deserve something to kiss that doesn't leave them scratching for hours afterwards.
Sigh.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 December, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 December, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:06:05 PM
Kid A is great. Admittedly, 'Idioteque' and 'Morning Bell' are the highlights, in descending order.
I don't understand the appeal of adverts that promote the idea men are better looking without facial hair. I know they are intended to sell depilatory devices, but still - why do they persist in using models who are better looking before they shave? The latest is the Boots one - there's some Rowan Atkinson-looking guy with a 'tache, who shaves it off, and then looks less attractive than before, but the chicks still cream anyway. I don't get it.
[Where is that F****** laughing smilie !! I need it NOW !! FFS !]
Your comment made me laugh so much !!
Better looking with facial hair than without it !!
Would they be even better looking if they had a paper bag over their head ??
The chicks were being paid to "cream" by the way.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:20:19 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:20:19 PM
Personally I'm too lazy to shave more than twice a week, and when I do it's just to clear away the sparse bits, leaving sideburns and a 'Van Dyke.' It also makes my face look less fat.
I used to know a family friend called Garaham whose wife never knew him without a full beard. After 9 years of marriage she asked him to shave it off. As soon as he did she asked him to grow it back again. His crooked teeth certainly noticed more without the beard.
I used to know a family friend called Garaham whose wife never knew him without a full beard. After 9 years of marriage she asked him to shave it off. As soon as he did she asked him to grow it back again. His crooked teeth certainly noticed more without the beard.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
As I get older, I'm seriously considering it. A Van Dyke, I mean, not the whole thing. The only thing that worries me is being mistaken for Comic Book Guy from the simpsons (remember that? Remember when it was FUNNY? No, me neither. Too long ago)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 12 December, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 12 December, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
Beard? *bottom lip trembles* please don't, you'll look like Dante from 'Clerks'
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
Quite.
That's another reason.
Which I already covered. I just HATE shaving....
That's another reason.
Which I already covered. I just HATE shaving....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 12 December, 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 12 December, 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Would you like an electric shaver for Christmas? That's instead of the pressies you already know you're getting...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
NO!!!!!
No thank you. What you've already sorted out for me is just super, thank you. xxxx
In the past I've hated electrics because you have to use them every day or they YANK the hairs out rather than cut them - and they're pretty hard work to get even. They also never give you a clean shave either. One day, when I can be arsed to shave more regularly and when the tech improves, I might investigate again, but they're very expensive so it's a pricey experiment....
No thank you. What you've already sorted out for me is just super, thank you. xxxx
In the past I've hated electrics because you have to use them every day or they YANK the hairs out rather than cut them - and they're pretty hard work to get even. They also never give you a clean shave either. One day, when I can be arsed to shave more regularly and when the tech improves, I might investigate again, but they're very expensive so it's a pricey experiment....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
Blimey. Can't you pair text each other or something? It's like the Afternoon Play!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:48:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:48:49 PM
Sorry Ush.
We're off to text each other about this weeks prog then. *sniff*
We're off to text each other about this weeks prog then. *sniff*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:48:49 PM
Sorry Ush.
We're off to text each other about this weeks prog then. *sniff*
Come back! I wasn't serious.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 12 December, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 12 December, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
I've had one of those beard-things most days since 1993, but I make a point of shaving it off at least once or twice a year. The missus begs me to grow it back immediately, which is either flattering or insulting, I've lost track. I look about 12 without it, about 50 with it. I'm not sure which is worse.
I guy I know has been married for 40 years and his wife has never seen him without his full Karl Marx beard. I've advised him not to shave it off. Ever.
And don't mind that crabby old goth, you two - I think it's sweet.
I guy I know has been married for 40 years and his wife has never seen him without his full Karl Marx beard. I've advised him not to shave it off. Ever.
And don't mind that crabby old goth, you two - I think it's sweet.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:59:02 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 12 December, 2009, 06:59:02 PM
Don't worry Ush, neither was I.
I just know that my face isn't one that stands up to beardage of any description, two or three days growth is fine.
I just know that my face isn't one that stands up to beardage of any description, two or three days growth is fine.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 December, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
I've had one of those beard-things most days since 1993, but I make a point of shaving it off at least once or twice a year. The missus begs me to grow it back immediately, which is either flattering or insulting, I've lost track.
It's the latter. Trust me. :-*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 12 December, 2009, 10:09:22 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 12 December, 2009, 10:09:22 PM
Shaving sucks. Supposed to shave every day for work but only do it once a week, gosh I am such a rebel.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 12 December, 2009, 10:16:35 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 12 December, 2009, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 12 December, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
It's the latter. Trust me. :-*
I choose to believe that she prefers me without any cosmetic alterations, as nature intended a man's face to be. Apart from ear hair, of course.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 December, 2009, 10:52:03 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 12 December, 2009, 10:52:03 PM
I'm a bit of a hairy bastard who's only had a clean-shaven face about four times in the last ten years, but a proper shave from a barber was quite a pleasant experience.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 13 December, 2009, 06:36:51 PM
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 13 December, 2009, 06:36:51 PM
I clean shaven about once a week and that is normally done before heading out. I don't think I will ever grow a full beard though, as there is a small patch, under my chin and about one cm in diameter that refuses to sprout hair.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 13 December, 2009, 08:21:37 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 13 December, 2009, 08:21:37 PM
I've always entertained a vague notion to go and get the full "hot towel and straight razor" treatment from a proper barber. Not entirely sure why, but the idea appeals.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: stacey on 13 December, 2009, 08:27:37 PM
Post by: stacey on 13 December, 2009, 08:27:37 PM
I like beards, they are manly. I would hate having to shave me face, I am rubbish at shaving me legs, they are cut to bits its rotten.
I don't understand the appeal of Ronan naffing Keating.
I don't understand the appeal of Ronan naffing Keating.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 13 December, 2009, 08:45:33 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 13 December, 2009, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 13 December, 2009, 08:21:37 PMI did that years ago and as one would expect, at the end I was asked if I "wanted something for the weekend."
I've always entertained a vague notion to go and get the full "hot towel and straight razor" treatment from a proper barber. Not entirely sure why, but the idea appeals.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 13 December, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 13 December, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
It's as if people who get a shave at the barber's only have sex at weekends. As if they're lives are so ordered they've scheduled time for nookie at 3.30 on Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 13 December, 2009, 10:02:27 PM
Post by: HdE on 13 December, 2009, 10:02:27 PM
Being the proud owner of a full goatee, I have to say that growing it was one of the best things I ever did.
But dear lord, does it take some upkeep! If there's on ething I hate about it, it's catching sight of it in the mirror some days and thinking 'Hurrm. Lookin' a bit scruffy...'
Cue one very frustrating interlude as I trim the thing and then forget everything I was about to do beforehand.
But dear lord, does it take some upkeep! If there's on ething I hate about it, it's catching sight of it in the mirror some days and thinking 'Hurrm. Lookin' a bit scruffy...'
Cue one very frustrating interlude as I trim the thing and then forget everything I was about to do beforehand.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 13 December, 2009, 10:09:58 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 13 December, 2009, 10:09:58 PM
Quote...scheduled time for nookie at 3.30 on Sunday afternoon.
Hey no fair, I booked that slot weeks ago. Should be free by 3.36, though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 13 December, 2009, 10:28:02 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 13 December, 2009, 10:28:02 PM
Er, don't know where else to post this but while we're on this nookie/something for the weekend kind of subject, earlier on today I saw something a bit weird. Was walking down the steep hill which is off our road, when on the other side of the road there was a fella, kind of late fifties early sixties-ish going down the hill in a wheelchair. I thought I'd look out for him in case he lost control of his wheels when he stopped outside the door of a house of ill-repute (one of those dodgy massage places) and he stood up and rang the doorbell. Just seemed so odd and very Little Britain.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 December, 2009, 10:56:21 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 December, 2009, 10:56:21 PM
I dont do any facial hair beyond not shaving every 3 days or so because i am one of those who looks terrible with facial hair rather than without it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 14 December, 2009, 01:28:11 PM
Post by: Mikey on 14 December, 2009, 01:28:11 PM
Shaving can indeed be a right pain, but for all you chaps (or indeed hirsute belegged females) may I recommend King of Shaves products? I use the razor, shaving oil and their gels and they give a really smoothe comfortable shave. I shave me head too, so this is a hearty recommend.
Gilette can kiss my hairy arse! They only sponsor philanderers.
M.
Gilette can kiss my hairy arse! They only sponsor philanderers.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 14 December, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 14 December, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
That story's just a tad too creepy, Supersurfer!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 December, 2009, 02:00:21 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 December, 2009, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 13 December, 2009, 10:28:02 PM
Er, don't know where else to post this but while we're on this nookie/something for the weekend kind of subject, earlier on today I saw something a bit weird. Was walking down the steep hill which is off our road, when on the other side of the road there was a fella, kind of late fifties early sixties-ish going down the hill in a wheelchair. I thought I'd look out for him in case he lost control of his wheels when he stopped outside the door of a house of ill-repute (one of those dodgy massage places) and he stood up and rang the doorbell. Just seemed so odd and very Little Britain.
Is this individual claiming incapacity/disability benefits ?
;)
That story also reminds me of a Comic Strip film called Dirty Movie.If anyone has seen that they will know what i mean.Rik Mayall faked disability for comedy 25 years before Little Britain.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:03:22 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 14 December, 2009, 01:28:11 PMReported.
Shaving can indeed be a right pain, but for all you chaps (or indeed hirsute belegged females) may I recommend King of Shaves products? I use the razor, shaving oil and their gels and they give a really smoothe comfortable shave. I shave me head too, so this is a hearty recommend.
Gilette can kiss my hairy arse! They only sponsor philanderers.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:03:52 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:03:52 PM
Kidding you spammer!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 December, 2009, 02:09:46 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 December, 2009, 02:09:46 PM
Its Bic disposable razors for me all the way.The orange for sensitive skin type are the best by far.I always shave in the bath and i use no other shaving products whatsoever and i never get any shaving rash or anything.
I also use one of these about 10 times before throwing it away.
I still have that bottle of Penhaligons shaving cream unopened that was a Xmas present from my mum about 10 years ago.
I also use one of these about 10 times before throwing it away.
I still have that bottle of Penhaligons shaving cream unopened that was a Xmas present from my mum about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:13:23 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 02:13:23 PM
Thick, coarse, fast-growing and very dark hairs mean I always look unshaven anyway. I blunt razors like nobody's business, no matter how cheap or expensive. I've also got VERY sensiive skin, couldnt live without shaving foam. Need that stuff badly.
Grrrrr.
Grrrrr.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 December, 2009, 04:21:02 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 December, 2009, 04:21:02 PM
While this is still the male grooming tips thread, I'll throw in the information that I use supermarket twin-blade disposables and shaving soap applied with a brush. None of your fancy shaving foam for me. A bit of Yves Rocher after shave balm doesn't go amiss, though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 December, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 December, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 14 December, 2009, 04:21:02 PM
A bit of Yves Rocher after shave balm doesn't go amiss, though.
Just what I'd expect from an effete dilettante of your stripe, sir!
&c
J Campbell, Esq
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 December, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 14 December, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
If skin sensitivity is an issue, Mike, use moisturising creme soap instead of shaving foam. Just rub it onto your skin and lather it up into a slight foam.
You can also try using moisturiser instead of aftershave.
You can also try using moisturiser instead of aftershave.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
I'm always on the look out for ways to sort out my poor face, appreciated.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
You're all nancy-boys. I dig out each inidvidual follicle with a sliver of broken glass and then finish with a nice bracing splash of surgical alcohol.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 14 December, 2009, 05:56:08 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 14 December, 2009, 05:56:08 PM
Pah that's nowt. What's wrong with using a lawnmower? Hasn't done me any harm.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
Post by: HdE on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
Feh! I'm so tough and rugged that I don't even bother shaving anymore. i just hammer the hairs in through my cheeks and chew 'em off from the inside! ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:58 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:58 PM
Pff. Ponces. When I first hit puberty I just cut my head off. Job done.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 14 December, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 14 December, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
Matching the shaving tips to peoples' avatars is just too funny to miss, in an emergent Creature Comforts way. The man-eating bear advising the sewer robot about sensitive skin being a highlight, but not overlooking Vincent Price's shaving brush and the zombie who cuts his own head off...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:58 PMFIRST?
Pff. Ponces. When I first hit puberty I just cut my head off. Job done.
You mean it happens MORE THAN ONCE? GAH!!!!!
Quote from: TordelBack on 14 December, 2009, 06:04:29 PMNot thought of it that way.
Matching the shaving tips to peoples' avatars is just too funny to miss, in an emergent Creature Comforts way. The man-eating bear advising the sewer robot about sensitive skin being a highlight, but not overlooking Vincent Price's shaving brush and the zombie who cuts his own head off...
Oddly I'd feel STUPID going by my own actual FACE here, whereas I'm not the type to hide behind a picture of anything OTHER than me anywhere else on the web.... Odd.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 07:38:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 07:38:55 PM
700 posts since 28th October this year.
What an astonishingly successful thread...
What an astonishingly successful thread...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2009, 07:50:52 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2009, 07:50:52 PM
well if you will inflate that figure with double posts....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
Unintentional, that.
We're definitely there now though.
We're definitely there now though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 14 December, 2009, 06:06:16 PMQuote from: Dark Jimbo on 14 December, 2009, 05:59:58 PMFIRST?
Pff. Ponces. When I first hit puberty I just cut my head off. Job done.
You mean it happens MORE THAN ONCE? GAH!!!!!
Not if you cut your head off the first time, no.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 14 December, 2009, 08:54:38 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 14 December, 2009, 08:54:38 PM
Noxcema foam, that's the stuff you want, comes in a big tin that goes rusty.
Not sure about that cocoa butter one, must be for ladies.
Not sure about that cocoa butter one, must be for ladies.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 14 December, 2009, 09:09:11 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 14 December, 2009, 09:09:11 PM
QuoteNot sure about that cocoa butter one, must be for ladies.
Or for men who're facing some serious competition for their lady's affections from a bar of Dairy Milk
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 14 December, 2009, 09:16:26 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 14 December, 2009, 09:16:26 PM
Speaking of milk..I just dab a little cream on and let the cat lick off my fine, downy, bum fluff.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2009, 09:26:51 PM
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2009, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 14 December, 2009, 09:16:26 PM
Speaking of milk..I just dab a little cream on and let the cat lick off my fine, downy, bum fluff.
Putting your pets to work helps save the enviroment and keeps your animals humble and obedient to their human masters.
Remember whatever the cat thinks it's YOUR bed not his/hers!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 December, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 December, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
Depilatory tip for the ladies - if you are the sort of lady who shaves her legs, a reliable source informs me that supermarket's own brand hair conditioner does a very good job when slathered all over the surface in question and scraped of with a razor.
Oh, and just to get back on topic, I don't understand the appeal of shaved armpits. Shaved or not makes no difference to me, although unshaved is occasionally quite sexy.
Oh, and just to get back on topic, I don't understand the appeal of shaved armpits. Shaved or not makes no difference to me, although unshaved is occasionally quite sexy.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 14 December, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 14 December, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
Baby oil works better than shaving foam, it also leaves you with lovely soft skin - thanks for listening fact fans!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
I shave by sticking my face in a blender and shoving the lever to 'shredded'. None of your Baby Oil wussiness here.
Face in a blender-that's a man sized shave! :D
Face in a blender-that's a man sized shave! :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 14 December, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 14 December, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
On my chin of course. I wasn't being purposefully ambiguous!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 18 December, 2009, 10:10:19 AM
Post by: Mikey on 18 December, 2009, 10:10:19 AM
...getting worked up because of xmas.
I understand folks are under a lot of pressure because they have a lot to do and perhaps not much to do it with, but for grud's sake people! Calm the fuck down! This time of year can be beautiful; crisp cold weather and the most wonderful colours if you look. Why,only yesterday I was admiring the golden brown glow of a raised bog and fringe of downy birch. Gorgeous!
Ok, so there aren't too many bogs about,but still.
M.
I understand folks are under a lot of pressure because they have a lot to do and perhaps not much to do it with, but for grud's sake people! Calm the fuck down! This time of year can be beautiful; crisp cold weather and the most wonderful colours if you look. Why,only yesterday I was admiring the golden brown glow of a raised bog and fringe of downy birch. Gorgeous!
Ok, so there aren't too many bogs about,but still.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
Quite, incidentally if you don't like sprouts don't fudging well have them! You're a grown-up and just because it's 'traditional' doesn't mean you have to eat them (or sit moaning about how you have to). The same goes for christmas cake and christmas pudding - stop bloody moaning you herd of unspeakable GITS!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 18 December, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
Post by: uncle fester on 18 December, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
But I like sprouts...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:54:24 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:54:24 AM
So do I! But you must steam them instead of boiling, then butter, black pepper and possibly some little crispy bits of bacon/pancetta. Mmmmmm
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Pyroxian on 18 December, 2009, 12:50:13 PM
Post by: Pyroxian on 18 December, 2009, 12:50:13 PM
Or in Horseradish sauce, that's nice too...
Steve
Steve
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 18 December, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 18 December, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
Quote700 posts since 28th October this year.
What an astonishingly successful thread...
Yeah but half of them are you saying "What a fabulous thread. You're great you are..." ;o)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
QuoteYeah but half of them are you saying "What a fabulous thread. You're great you are..." ;o)
Oh but those are the posts I like the most!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 18 December, 2009, 05:16:21 PM
Post by: HdE on 18 December, 2009, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
stop bloody moaning you herd of unspeakable GITS!
Aw. You got me all excited there - I saw GITS and thought we might have some discussion about Ghost In The Shell, which is commonly referred to like that.
Pshaw. Disappointed.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 18 December, 2009, 08:43:37 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 18 December, 2009, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: HdE on 18 December, 2009, 05:16:21 PMQuote from: wild-seven on 18 December, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
stop bloody moaning you herd of unspeakable GITS!
Aw. You got me all excited there - I saw GITS and thought we might have some discussion about Ghost In The Shell, which is commonly referred to like that.
Pshaw. Disappointed.
Was it you, HdE, that memorably referred to "GITS SAC" on here? Then informed me it was "Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex"?
From that moment on I have referred to my bollocks at my "gits", my "ghosts" and my "git sack".
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 18 December, 2009, 11:18:03 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 18 December, 2009, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 14 December, 2009, 08:54:38 PMi miss noxema it gave a good shave and the menthol made your skin all fresh and tingly boots stopped doin it where can i get some?
Noxcema foam, that's the stuff you want, comes in a big tin that goes rusty.
Not sure about that cocoa butter one, must be for ladies.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 18 December, 2009, 11:27:28 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 18 December, 2009, 11:27:28 PM
I'm fairly sure I got my last can in Tesco. But I do have an unfeasibly shit memory.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 19 December, 2009, 03:53:39 AM
Post by: HdE on 19 December, 2009, 03:53:39 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 18 December, 2009, 08:43:37 PM
Was it you, HdE, that memorably referred to "GITS SAC" on here? Then informed me it was "Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex"?
From that moment on I have referred to my bollocks at my "gits", my "ghosts" and my "git sack".
Ah ha haaaah! Excellent! Made me laugh like a schoolboy!
Yes indeed, was most likely me. GITS SAC is a generally accepted abbreviation of the show's title among fans.
Oddly enough, I spent this evening with friends and watched the last few episodes of the second series. Utterly excellent stuff! The final episodes give 24 a run for its money in the 'escalating tension' stakes.
Does it show I like this series? :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 09:57:06 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 09:57:06 AM
I don't understand the appeal of.... NEW YEARS EVE.
Apparently it's a great night out. Apparently.
It never fails to disappoint. It's not even as much fun as a regular night out, but with the added hassle of large numbers of people who feel they have to be out and very drunk and HAVING A GOOD TIME. Nothing like pre-planning for killing a night out. The best mights out are the ones that happen without the weight of expectations.
So what am I doing tonight? What I do most NYEs - staying in, good book, fire, maybe a G&T or a beer with dinner. Anything other than going out.
Apparently it's a great night out. Apparently.
It never fails to disappoint. It's not even as much fun as a regular night out, but with the added hassle of large numbers of people who feel they have to be out and very drunk and HAVING A GOOD TIME. Nothing like pre-planning for killing a night out. The best mights out are the ones that happen without the weight of expectations.
So what am I doing tonight? What I do most NYEs - staying in, good book, fire, maybe a G&T or a beer with dinner. Anything other than going out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 31 December, 2009, 10:13:57 AM
Post by: Dandontdare on 31 December, 2009, 10:13:57 AM
I know what you mean - I usually say I'm staying in due to the crowds/expense and then get a last minute phonecall to go to someone's house for drinks drugs and debauchery - the unplanned parties are always the best. This year however we planned to go out to a ticket-only bar, but left it too late, so we're going to be bar hopping and playing it by ear - might turn out to be a disaster.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 31 December, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 31 December, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
I haven't gone out on New Year's Eve for a long time. These days, me and the missus go and stay with friends. We let all our sprogs go feral and run wild in the house while we get very pissed indeed.
No crowds, cheap beer and we can listen to our own music. Perfick.
No crowds, cheap beer and we can listen to our own music. Perfick.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 December, 2009, 10:51:44 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 December, 2009, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 09:57:06 AM
I don't understand the appeal of.... NEW YEARS EVE.
Apparently it's a great night out. Apparently.
It never fails to disappoint. It's not even as much fun as a regular night out, but with the added hassle of large numbers of people who feel they have to be out and very drunk and HAVING A GOOD TIME. Nothing like pre-planning for killing a night out. The best mights out are the ones that happen without the weight of expectations.
So what am I doing tonight? What I do most NYEs - staying in, good book, fire, maybe a G&T or a beer with dinner. Anything other than going out.
WOW
That was like someone taking the words right out of my mouth.
Forgive the language but they can all shove their New Years Eve and their Auld Lang Syne right up their fucking arse for all i care because i am TOTALLY disinterested in it so i will be staying in.
I dont like it because its a contrived event that is just an arbitary date on a calender and i have never worked out wether you are meant to be celebrating the year just gone which thinking about it isnt actually a bad idea considering 80 percent of it was fucking shit or the year coming up ?
If its the year coming up then you might just as well say same shit - different year.
I dont like the people and their drunken behaviour and i dont have the herding instinct.I have been invited to a party that is god knows where on the end of one of the tube lines in London but i dont feel well enough to go even if i wanted to .
So i am staying in.
Bollox to it and good riddance to it.
"WHHOOOOOOOOO !! ITS NEW YEARS EVE - HAPPY NEW YEAR !!"
Oh STFU.
GGGGRRRRR>>>
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 December, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 December, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
It's going to be freezing overnight so stay in the warm. Personally I can't wait to see the back of 2009 which has been one of the worst years ever. Roll on 2010...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 31 December, 2009, 11:38:22 AM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 31 December, 2009, 11:38:22 AM
Good book and a nice cup of tea in front of the fire for me. Bliss.
Old before my time at 24, I guess, but fuck it - I like what I like.
Old before my time at 24, I guess, but fuck it - I like what I like.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 11:41:11 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 11:41:11 AM
Wish I'd thought like this at your age. Some of the most mind-numbingly dull nights of my life would have been avoided, I'd have read more good books and been less disappointed into the bargain. Took me till 30ish to think like that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 31 December, 2009, 02:51:18 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 31 December, 2009, 02:51:18 PM
We'll be staying in and hiding from the world, with crisps, cheese, booze and TV. Not that there's anything on worth watching this year. Even the line-up Jools Holland's show looks rubbish. I expect we'll put on a DVD.
I haven't gone out to a bar on New Year's Eve since I left home, and it always used to be the same one, then I moved away. We stay in most New Years except when some very nice goth friends of ours have a party at home. This year we're glad not to be turning out as we're both shattered.
I haven't gone out to a bar on New Year's Eve since I left home, and it always used to be the same one, then I moved away. We stay in most New Years except when some very nice goth friends of ours have a party at home. This year we're glad not to be turning out as we're both shattered.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 31 December, 2009, 02:56:47 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 31 December, 2009, 02:56:47 PM
well, have a happy new year anyway you bunch of miserable antisocial gits!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: strontium_dog_90 on 31 December, 2009, 08:11:54 PM
Post by: strontium_dog_90 on 31 December, 2009, 08:11:54 PM
I've been out on a New Year's Eve every night for pretty much the past six years, and there was a time when the thought of staying in would have been complete anathema to me. But this year I feel different - it's amazing what how much of a change being settled and in love can make to you . . .
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 31 December, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 31 December, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Did anyone catch that beautiful moon earlier tonight? I think that marks the occasion better than any piss up. Scary cool!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 December, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
It was dead cool.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 December, 2009, 11:44:34 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 December, 2009, 11:44:34 PM
The sky and moon here is looking amazing.
No New Years Eve is complete without gaggles of shrieking women with their heels going clippety-clop down the road.
No New Years Eve is complete without gaggles of shrieking women with their heels going clippety-clop down the road.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 01 January, 2010, 12:20:38 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 01 January, 2010, 12:20:38 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 31 December, 2009, 11:44:34 PM
The sky and moon here is looking amazing.
I can see the moon shining on the sea, I've a glass of rediculously (sp?) expensive champagne in my paws and I want to be the first to say 'I hope this brand-harry-spanking new year brings you everything you want, plus health, wealth and happiness' *mwah!* *
*I'm NOT pished, honest
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: dangermouse3597 on 01 January, 2010, 12:24:48 AM
Post by: dangermouse3597 on 01 January, 2010, 12:24:48 AM
You can't see the moon for the snow clouds up here, Happy New Year to one and all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 January, 2010, 12:39:07 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 January, 2010, 12:39:07 AM
Let the insanity begin !!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 01 January, 2010, 03:21:17 AM
Post by: Kerrin on 01 January, 2010, 03:21:17 AM
We had a dusting of snow and then I managed to intercept a taxi. MERRY NEW YEAR!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: thehod on 08 January, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
Post by: thehod on 08 January, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
I'm not going through 50 pages of posts to see if this has already been brough up, but I don't understand the current fascination with wearing bloody afghan scarfs all the time, especially indoors or in warm weather.
Why anyone wants to intentionally look like a member of the Hezbollah is utterly beyond me.
Why anyone wants to intentionally look like a member of the Hezbollah is utterly beyond me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 08 January, 2010, 12:55:21 PM
Post by: Mikey on 08 January, 2010, 12:55:21 PM
I used to wear one those back in my glory days...never inside though. They're great in the summer for keeping off the flies when hiking.
M.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 08 January, 2010, 01:07:28 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 08 January, 2010, 01:07:28 PM
likewise those Rupert the Bear scarfs, especially indoors
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
Agreed.
Having said that, my Iraqi/Indian mate (Muslim for what it's worth and currently living in California with his daughter working in the Biz of Show) used to wear one back in the late 80s/early 90s. Not indoors. It stood in for a coat that was easily discarded in his car. Made sense. Looked stupid though.
Having said that, my Iraqi/Indian mate (Muslim for what it's worth and currently living in California with his daughter working in the Biz of Show) used to wear one back in the late 80s/early 90s. Not indoors. It stood in for a coat that was easily discarded in his car. Made sense. Looked stupid though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 08 January, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
Post by: Mikey on 08 January, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
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You're a big racist.
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You're a big racist.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
I only mentioned that because I forgot to include that local skinheads would glare at us (presumably because of the scarf/skin colour combo).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 08 January, 2010, 04:24:23 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 08 January, 2010, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: thehod on 08 January, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
I'm not going through 50 pages of posts to see if this has already been brough up, but I don't understand the current fascination with wearing bloody afghan scarfs all the time, especially indoors or in warm weather.
Why anyone wants to intentionally look like a member of the Hezbollah is utterly beyond me.
I used to wear one of these.Mine was khaki colored with the usual pattern woven into it.I think i still have it somewhere.
They come in different colors which represent different factions.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 08 January, 2010, 09:19:20 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 08 January, 2010, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: thehod on 08 January, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
Why anyone wants to intentionally look like a member of the Hezbollah is utterly beyond me.
It's because it's 1989 again. I heard that lumberjack-style shirts are back on the hight street too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 09:24:22 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 08 January, 2010, 09:24:22 PM
Whoooo!
I'm getting one. I'm 16 again!
Does a greying undercut go too far? Ok, it's not going to work is it? *sigh*
I'm getting one. I'm 16 again!
Does a greying undercut go too far? Ok, it's not going to work is it? *sigh*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 08 January, 2010, 09:28:28 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 08 January, 2010, 09:28:28 PM
QuoteI'm not going through 50 pages of posts to see if this has already been brough up, but I don't understand the current fascination with wearing bloody afghan scarfs all the time, especially indoors or in warm weather.
I wear one proudly and have yet to be accused of having any terrorist affiliations
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 08 January, 2010, 09:38:39 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 08 January, 2010, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 08 January, 2010, 09:19:20 PM
I heard that lumberjack-style shirts are back on the hight street too.
Yes, finally! And the wife said they were just taking up space in the wardrobe... hah, now who's down with the kidz!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 08 January, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 08 January, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
I used to wear a white and sand coloured one. But that was back in 1990 when I was in the gulf during the first conflict.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 09 January, 2010, 09:42:05 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 09 January, 2010, 09:42:05 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 08 January, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
I used to wear a white and sand coloured one. But that was back in 1990 when I was in the gulf during the first conflict.
V
They have desert camo lumberjack shirts now?
Cool!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 10 January, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 10 January, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
Quote
I wear one proudly and have yet to be accused of having any terrorist affiliations
Me too. I found mine on the street two years ago; probably wouldn't have bought one otherwise but I'm quite attached to it now.
And the weird thing is that i AM a terrorist!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 January, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 10 January, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
Religious overtones in choice of nethandle.... OF COURSE YOU ARE!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 11 January, 2010, 11:15:22 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 11 January, 2010, 11:15:22 PM
Quote from: johnnystress on 09 January, 2010, 09:42:05 AMQuote from: vzzbux on 08 January, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
I used to wear a white and sand coloured one. But that was back in 1990 when I was in the gulf during the first conflict.
V
They have desert camo lumberjack shirts now?
Cool!
That'll teach me not to read the last page of a thread.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
I dont understand the appeal of Sunday roasts at all and never have and every pub around here claims to do "the best sunday lunch in town".
I wish that they would all give that cliched rubbish a rest.
I wish that they would all give that cliched rubbish a rest.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 11:29:02 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 11:29:02 AM
I agree with you there, Peter. I'll add to that carveries. Even when I ate meat I couldn't see the point. And those places stink of burnt fat.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 January, 2010, 12:47:49 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 January, 2010, 12:47:49 PM
Mmmmm.I could murder a lovely Sunday roast right about now. Going to have to drag my sorry ass out to the shops or it's cornflakes and supernoodles for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 January, 2010, 01:18:23 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 January, 2010, 01:18:23 PM
I've always considered the Sunday Roast to be England's one incontrovertibly great contribution to world cuisine.
I remember being down for a mate's wedding in some picturesque little village outside Derby. The next day we were wandering around dazed and hungry when we stumbled across the sort of little country restaurant I thought only existed in the pages of fiction. Retired colonels scooping laden slices of Black Forest gateaux from a desset trolley and gravy so thick you practically had to cut it. Probably the best Sunday lunch in the world.
I remember being down for a mate's wedding in some picturesque little village outside Derby. The next day we were wandering around dazed and hungry when we stumbled across the sort of little country restaurant I thought only existed in the pages of fiction. Retired colonels scooping laden slices of Black Forest gateaux from a desset trolley and gravy so thick you practically had to cut it. Probably the best Sunday lunch in the world.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 01:28:20 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 11:29:02 AM
I agree with you there, Peter. I'll add to that carveries. Even when I ate meat I couldn't see the point. And those places stink of burnt fat.
Carveries are dreadful places.You wont find me in one of those places.I think i went to a Harvester once but never again.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like a roast dinner now and then: roast potatoes, roast carrots, roast parsnips, a quorn roast, gravy, boiled carrots, peas, cauliflower, broccoli and sprouts or cabbage, plus mashed swede.
I just don't understand the way people get all religious/orgasmic about it or why everything has to stop for it on a Sunday. I sometimes don't eat until 8pm.
I just don't understand the way people get all religious/orgasmic about it or why everything has to stop for it on a Sunday. I sometimes don't eat until 8pm.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 January, 2010, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 January, 2010, 02:28:36 PM
I guess Sunday Lunch is a tradition harking back to the times when families could only afford one really good meal a week. I haven't had one for years, but I'd gladly eat one every week if I could be arsed making one or kidnap and enslave a woman.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 January, 2010, 02:59:53 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 24 January, 2010, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
.... a quorn roast, ...
Well there you go, that's your problem right there! :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 03:13:23 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like a roast dinner now and then: roast potatoes, roast carrots, roast parsnips, a quorn roast, gravy, boiled carrots, peas, cauliflower, broccoli and sprouts or cabbage, plus mashed swede.
I just don't understand the way people get all religious/orgasmic about it or why everything has to stop for it on a Sunday. I sometimes don't eat until 8pm.
I never eat until about 8pm and always have done and like you say it can be good if its done well and i like Nut roasts as an alternative to meat and i would rather eat a nut roast.I prefer cabbage to raw and i can live without peas sprouts or cauliflower.
Broccoli has to be in cheese sauce otherwise i can live without that as well.
Its all the pubs using the same sales talk that gets on my tits and the way i see it is anyone can stick a piece of meat and potatoes into an oven and call it "The best pub lunch in town".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:16 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 24 January, 2010, 02:59:53 PMQuote from: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
.... a quorn roast, ...
Well there you go, that's your problem right there! :D
:D I see what you're getting at, but I don't see why roasted meat requires roast potatoes, Yorkshire puddings and boiled vegetables or else you might as well just grill a chop. Also, you'd be surprised, but all that roast and boiled stuff is still actually very nice without meat. But then so is any food cooked with a bit of thought and care.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Christov on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Post by: Christov on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Bagged roast potatoes. Cannot stand them, they're bland and tasteless little lumps of disappointment.
Just peel some bloody potatoes and shove them in the oven with a roast, it isn't hard.
Just peel some bloody potatoes and shove them in the oven with a roast, it isn't hard.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 January, 2010, 03:27:18 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 January, 2010, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: Christov on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Bagged roast potatoes.
That just sounds like heresy.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 January, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Garageman on 24 January, 2010, 03:27:18 PMQuote from: Christov on 24 January, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Bagged roast potatoes.
That just sounds like heresy.
Sounds like an ideal accompaniment to frozen Yorkshire puddings. Doesn't the food and drink industry just love to persuade people that cooking is too hard to do for themselves?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 04:28:40 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 04:28:40 PM
Absolutely - is there really anything easier to cook than roasties and yorkshire puds when you already have the oven on? There's no time saving (you're not speeding up the roast any), and there's about as much effort involved in opening the freezer as there is in making the batter. I don't get it.
Mind you, I also hate Sunday lunch, which I view as a catastrophic interruption of my only full free-ish day, on the very rare occasions in occurs. There are so many things that require all the daylight hours (hiking, touring, sailing, gardening, even sleeping) without plonking a three-hour hole in the middle, and resultant bloated lethargy to follow. And there's usually unhelathy amounts of family involved. Bah.
Mind you, I also hate Sunday lunch, which I view as a catastrophic interruption of my only full free-ish day, on the very rare occasions in occurs. There are so many things that require all the daylight hours (hiking, touring, sailing, gardening, even sleeping) without plonking a three-hour hole in the middle, and resultant bloated lethargy to follow. And there's usually unhelathy amounts of family involved. Bah.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 24 January, 2010, 08:07:50 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 24 January, 2010, 08:07:50 PM
You cannot beat a good Sunday roast. But no one can beat my mums, My wife doesn't hold a torch to it.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
I dont see the appeal of Slumdog Millionaire.I havent watched it and i dont care about it and i am sick of hearing about it.
Whats with the title "Slumdog" ?
Whats that supposed to mean ?
Whats with the title "Slumdog" ?
Whats that supposed to mean ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
QuoteWhats that supposed to mean ?
I know how you could find out...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 January, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 10:12:31 PMQuoteWhats that supposed to mean ?
I know how you could find out...
How do i find out then ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 24 January, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 24 January, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
QuoteI havent watched it
I think the clue may be in this statement.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 January, 2010, 10:37:18 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 January, 2010, 10:37:18 PM
The main character is the richest man in his Indian town, like a Bangladeshi Bruce Wayne. He is blessed by one of those wacky Hindu gods with the power to turn into a giant dog/millipede hybrid and is sent on a holy mission into the slums of India to fight the most pernicious evil of them all: The Poor.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 24 January, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
Well, I was suggesting that watching the movie of the same name might help. Apparently Simon Beaufoy claims he coined the term himself while researching for the movie adaptation, basing iton the wily watchful dogs of the slums of Mumbai - apparently the lowest of the low, but still sharp enough to survive. But Godpleton's answer is better.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 January, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 January, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
The joke is that he looks more like a millipede than a dog but he gets all ornery when they call him "Slummillipede".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 24 January, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 24 January, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
On the topic of alternative film premises, my dad once had the following conversation with one of the people he works with:
Workmate: My girlfriend wants to go see this new movie, Pride and Prejudice. What's that about?
My Dad: It's about this gangster who gets sold out to the cops by everyone else in his gang. The cops try to make him give them the names of everyone he works with. They try to get him to give them the evidence they need to put the rest of the gang away. But even though they sold him out, the gangster won't grass on them. Why? Because he's got Pride. So he serves his time in prison. Then, years later, when he gets out, he hunts down everyone responsible, and kills them all with extreme Prejudice. That's why they call it Pride and Prejudice.
Workmate: Wow, that sounds good. I'll go see it tonight!
Next morning:
Workmate: You bastard!
My Dad: Pisses himself laughing
Workmate: My girlfriend wants to go see this new movie, Pride and Prejudice. What's that about?
My Dad: It's about this gangster who gets sold out to the cops by everyone else in his gang. The cops try to make him give them the names of everyone he works with. They try to get him to give them the evidence they need to put the rest of the gang away. But even though they sold him out, the gangster won't grass on them. Why? Because he's got Pride. So he serves his time in prison. Then, years later, when he gets out, he hunts down everyone responsible, and kills them all with extreme Prejudice. That's why they call it Pride and Prejudice.
Workmate: Wow, that sounds good. I'll go see it tonight!
Next morning:
Workmate: You bastard!
My Dad: Pisses himself laughing
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Rog69 on 26 January, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Post by: Rog69 on 26 January, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Bagels.
Just what the hell are they? Stale donuts with the sugar washed off? Bread roll's with a stupid hole in the middle so your filling falls out? WTF? Why are they so popular?
Just what the hell are they? Stale donuts with the sugar washed off? Bread roll's with a stupid hole in the middle so your filling falls out? WTF? Why are they so popular?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 26 January, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 26 January, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: Rog69 on 26 January, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Bagels.
Just what the hell are they?
Yummy, that's what! Polish bread roll that's boiled before its baked, making for a dense but soft chewy interior. Filling and long lasting. What's not to like?
NOTE: This is not an endorsement of the many, many icky bagel chains, which are just as bad as most sandwich emporia. Get 'em fresh from a proper Jewish bakery on a Sunday morning, slap some cream cheese on one and oy gevalt!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 January, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 January, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: Rog69 on 26 January, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Bagels.
Just what the hell are they? Stale donuts with the sugar washed off? Bread roll's with a stupid hole in the middle so your filling falls out? WTF? Why are they so popular?
:lol:
I have never tried them either.I used to walk past that famous Bagel shop in Brick Lane that was always open late god knows how many times and there was always a massive queue inside and outside the shop but i was never tempted to try one.
Quote from: Cthulouis on 24 January, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
On the topic of alternative film premises, my dad once had the following conversation with one of the people he works with:
Workmate: My girlfriend wants to go see this new movie, Pride and Prejudice. What's that about?
My Dad: It's about this gangster who gets sold out to the cops by everyone else in his gang. The cops try to make him give them the names of everyone he works with. They try to get him to give them the evidence they need to put the rest of the gang away. But even though they sold him out, the gangster won't grass on them. Why? Because he's got Pride. So he serves his time in prison. Then, years later, when he gets out, he hunts down everyone responsible, and kills them all with extreme Prejudice. That's why they call it Pride and Prejudice.
Workmate: Wow, that sounds good. I'll go see it tonight!
Next morning:
Workmate: You bastard!
My Dad: Pisses himself laughing
:lol:
Mr Fitzwilliam Darcy is going to whack all those Slags that stitched him up.
Someones going to pay !!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 26 January, 2010, 11:43:31 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 26 January, 2010, 11:43:31 PM
Mayonnaise. I don't understand the appeal. I'd rather have salad cream any day.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 26 January, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 26 January, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Do you ever see "Prawn Salad Cream sandwiches". No. You are fucking wrong. I shall find a new proxy father figure post-motherfucking-haste.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 27 January, 2010, 12:31:21 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 27 January, 2010, 12:31:21 AM
...but that would make Usher... Rabbi Krustofski? Suddenly it all makes sense.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
Food.
People talk endlessly about it. It's such a crushingly dull subject.
I don't get it. I'm just as happy with pickled onion monster munch as some flashy cooking- usually happier actually. Can't be arsed with it, don't really give a fuck about it and I'm endlessly bored to tears by cooking programmes (in all their hideously dull formats)and amateur chefs discussing it- in TV land and real life. I wish they would all shut the fuck up.
If I didn't HAVE to eat, I probably wouldn't.
People talk endlessly about it. It's such a crushingly dull subject.
I don't get it. I'm just as happy with pickled onion monster munch as some flashy cooking- usually happier actually. Can't be arsed with it, don't really give a fuck about it and I'm endlessly bored to tears by cooking programmes (in all their hideously dull formats)and amateur chefs discussing it- in TV land and real life. I wish they would all shut the fuck up.
If I didn't HAVE to eat, I probably wouldn't.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 January, 2010, 12:43:27 AM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 27 January, 2010, 12:43:27 AM
I'm with you DD, food is just fuel for my body to work. I could eat the same thing every day for the rest of my life and it wouldn't bother me one bit!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 12:57:32 AM
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 12:57:32 AM
Except, perhaps, fresh butteries bought in Aberdeen- proper ones with lard and salt.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 27 January, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
Post by: Cthulouis on 27 January, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
You guys have tried bacon, right?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 January, 2010, 09:30:35 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 January, 2010, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 26 January, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Do you ever see "Prawn Salad Cream sandwiches". No.
In the days when I ate prawns I certainly wouldn't have put mayonnaise on them. I'm downmarket enough to have preferred the 50/50 salad cream and tomato ketchup mix I still use in an avocado and lettuce sandwich. Whenever I reluctantly buy an egg mayonnaise sandwich because a proper meal is a long way off I always think how much nicer an egg and salad cream sandwich would be, but nobody sells them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 27 January, 2010, 02:46:02 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 27 January, 2010, 02:46:02 PM
I prefer salad cream too. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
I like both - is this what's known as cross-dressing?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 January, 2010, 03:05:52 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 January, 2010, 03:05:52 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
is this what's known as cross-dressing?
You're fired -- Ed.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 27 January, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 27 January, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
*weeps*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 27 January, 2010, 06:18:18 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 27 January, 2010, 06:18:18 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
I like both - is this what's known as cross-dressing?
Madre de Grud, but that's savage.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 27 January, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 27 January, 2010, 08:46:57 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
I like both - is this what's known as cross-dressing?
Taxi for Mr Shark!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 08:50:24 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 27 January, 2010, 08:50:24 PM
I'll get me coat...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 January, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 27 January, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Killfile!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Dog Deever on 27 January, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cthulouis on 27 January, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
You guys have tried bacon, right?
I eat it, it stops me from being hungry.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 28 January, 2010, 12:57:34 PM
Post by: Mikey on 28 January, 2010, 12:57:34 PM
I was roped into a 'what did you have for dinner last night' discussion in work once. One of the women decided I needed included for some reason, so asked me what I'd had, so I told her 'Sausage, mash and beans.'
She wrinkled her nose and said 'Oh, my husband used to eat all that '70s food!' This from a woman who when she smelled what was quite clearly garlic declared it to actually be 'Marks and Spencer tomato pasta, and I have a great sense of smell'.
I don't understand the appeal of Marks and Spencer. It's all bloody pre packed and people act like it's the paradigm of good taste in food.
M.
She wrinkled her nose and said 'Oh, my husband used to eat all that '70s food!' This from a woman who when she smelled what was quite clearly garlic declared it to actually be 'Marks and Spencer tomato pasta, and I have a great sense of smell'.
I don't understand the appeal of Marks and Spencer. It's all bloody pre packed and people act like it's the paradigm of good taste in food.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 January, 2010, 01:12:22 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 January, 2010, 01:12:22 PM
It's not just snobbery, it's M&S snobbery.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Albion on 28 January, 2010, 01:53:31 PM
Post by: Albion on 28 January, 2010, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 28 January, 2010, 12:57:34 PMI don't understand the appeal of Marks and Spencer. It's all bloody pre packed and people act like it's the paradigm of good taste in food.
Neither do I.
Mrs Albion got some M&S vouchers from her boss at Christmas. She couldn't find much she wanted in the clothes department so we got some food with the rest of the cash. All of it was crap.
If only she'd taken my advice and spent it on Port. :'(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
I find M&S fruit is consistently excellent. Can be pricey though. Had some excellent M&S fish fingers last night.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 January, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 January, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
I find M&S fruit is consistently excellent. Can be pricey though. Had some excellent M&S fish fingers last night.
In case you're wondering if this counts towards your 5-a-day, fish fingers are NOT fruit!
M&S food is pretty damn good on the whole. I was delighted to find their own-brand walnut whips as I've boycotted Nestle for years and really missed this lovely confection. Now I just need an alternative for KitKats, Rowntrees fruit pastilles and Yorkies.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 28 January, 2010, 03:42:11 PMWe'll just have to agree to disagree.
...fish fingers are NOT fruit!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 January, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 January, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
I certainly agree that some people's preference for M&S food is based on snobbery, as well as having either too much money or no fear of debt. Some of it is very good. Most of it is luxury goods. A little of it is bloody rubbish, like the white chocolate cream liqueur they once marketed in the run-up to Christmas. What was in it? Cream, 'spirit', sugar and artificial flavouring. No real chocolate at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 January, 2010, 06:19:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 January, 2010, 06:19:42 PM
M+S precooked food is far superior to any other precooked food that you get in other supermarkets but i dont buy it much as i mostly cook from scratch.
Good for Cheesecakes and chicken and Leek pies.
I cant stand all this fussy and pretentious food you get where the plate is mostly empty and its prissily arranged and trendy and modern usually with something dribbled all over it which is all these trained chefs seem to knock out.I cant stand anything that is "contemporary" or "chic".I cant stand trendy yuppie twats that are totally up themselves and their stupid wannabe snobbery and yes the M+S adverts with their Mariella Frostrup soundalike voiceovers are very annoying.Its just food FFS ! Extra special this or that or "irresistably delicious" or whatever.Stupid twats think they are lord and lady muck just because they shop in M+S.
I cant stand pretentious and snobby twats.
Its just food so cook it and eat it and just STFU !.
Square plates are another.I will not eat off square plates.Stupid designer rubbish.
Good for Cheesecakes and chicken and Leek pies.
I cant stand all this fussy and pretentious food you get where the plate is mostly empty and its prissily arranged and trendy and modern usually with something dribbled all over it which is all these trained chefs seem to knock out.I cant stand anything that is "contemporary" or "chic".I cant stand trendy yuppie twats that are totally up themselves and their stupid wannabe snobbery and yes the M+S adverts with their Mariella Frostrup soundalike voiceovers are very annoying.Its just food FFS ! Extra special this or that or "irresistably delicious" or whatever.Stupid twats think they are lord and lady muck just because they shop in M+S.
I cant stand pretentious and snobby twats.
Its just food so cook it and eat it and just STFU !.
Square plates are another.I will not eat off square plates.Stupid designer rubbish.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 06:52:01 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 28 January, 2010, 06:19:42 PMMade me smile that comment. Yes, there is something really annoying about square plates.
Square plates are another.I will not eat off square plates.Stupid designer rubbish.
What winds me up is what I call the 'poncification' of foods. Eg olive oil. In Mediterranean countries it's more common than butter, often bought in giant tins. No big deal about it. And yet it's often presented here as some flashy premium product and I've seen snooty foodies tasting it on cookery programmes out of wine glasses.
I saw one food programme and the dad said "I would say we are a trendy family. We eat pasta and drink cappuccino."
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 January, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 January, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
Surely, though, square plates can be more efficiently stored than round ones?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 January, 2010, 11:50:46 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 January, 2010, 11:50:46 PM
My dear, departed granny would be happy to hear you all espousing this good old-fashioned Scottish presbyterian attitude towards food. What's the point in wasting time enjoying something when's it all just one bowl of porridge closer to eternal damnation. My fancy foie gras certainly wont help me when I'm burning in hellfire.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 29 January, 2010, 12:13:26 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 29 January, 2010, 12:13:26 AM
Eating foie gras is a Hell-able offence you goose stuffing scumbag.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 29 January, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 29 January, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 29 January, 2010, 12:13:26 AM
Eating foie gras is a Hell-able offence you goose stuffing scumbag.
That is the best thing I've read all day!
1970s food is ace. It has loads of additives in and makes me act like I'm on speed. *fidgets*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 January, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 January, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
I miss additives. I weaned myself off them years ago, but still get the cravings.
To drag ourselves back a few points - I really like a roast, but I like lots of different meals just as much. As a carnivore, I love roasted meats, but it's the VEG that makes it special. Normally if I were having, say, a lamb chop - I'd have spuds and two veg with it. Somehow, because it's a roast and takes ages, it lends itself a sense of occasion and thus you don't feel odd about putting on a small quantity of every veg you can lay your hands on. Also you get leftovers and stock (for risotto) from a big chicken (for example) so it's actually pretty economical. It's also one of the meals I can do that impresses people. Given how bad a cock I am, that's saying something.
To drag ourselves back a few points - I really like a roast, but I like lots of different meals just as much. As a carnivore, I love roasted meats, but it's the VEG that makes it special. Normally if I were having, say, a lamb chop - I'd have spuds and two veg with it. Somehow, because it's a roast and takes ages, it lends itself a sense of occasion and thus you don't feel odd about putting on a small quantity of every veg you can lay your hands on. Also you get leftovers and stock (for risotto) from a big chicken (for example) so it's actually pretty economical. It's also one of the meals I can do that impresses people. Given how bad a cock I am, that's saying something.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 29 January, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 29 January, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 29 January, 2010, 05:21:43 PM
Given how bad a cock I am, that's saying something.
Best. Typo. EVER!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 29 January, 2010, 06:05:15 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 29 January, 2010, 06:05:15 PM
There's no way I'm coming to your place for a quick mouthful.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 January, 2010, 08:36:31 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 29 January, 2010, 08:36:31 PM
Don't dismiss it's virtues without trying it out. Suck it and see.
And yeah, that's a Freudian slip if ever there was one. Whoopsadaisy!
And yeah, that's a Freudian slip if ever there was one. Whoopsadaisy!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 29 January, 2010, 09:57:34 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 29 January, 2010, 09:57:34 PM
What is the appeal of... things?
I have lots of things. That I wanted, but now, I don't. SO why?
Actually, since I got those things mself, I should probably ask myself that question.
So, why am I asking youse?
What is the appeal of asking that question to you?
Wait... I'm asking it... so I should know... so I should ask myself...
So what is the appeal in doing that?
BUt, wait...
I have lots of things. That I wanted, but now, I don't. SO why?
Actually, since I got those things mself, I should probably ask myself that question.
So, why am I asking youse?
What is the appeal of asking that question to you?
Wait... I'm asking it... so I should know... so I should ask myself...
So what is the appeal in doing that?
BUt, wait...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
I think most of us posting here will appreciate the appeal of asking such phillosophical questions of pictures on the internet, even if we can't articulate it.
Things? No, I know what you mean. I have several things that I don't quite understand my reasons for wanting at one stage or another.
Things? No, I know what you mean. I have several things that I don't quite understand my reasons for wanting at one stage or another.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2010, 11:58:17 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 January, 2010, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
I wholeheartedly agree, lowest common denominator totty for those whose grasp exceeds their reach.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 January, 2010, 12:11:33 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 January, 2010, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: Garageman on 30 January, 2010, 11:58:17 AMQuote from: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
I wholeheartedly agree, lowest common denominator totty for those whose grasp exceeds their reach.
Maybe, but you would, given a chance, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:11:40 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:11:40 PM
...Lost.
It's like someone has distilled progressive dementia and filmed it over and over and over again.
It's like someone has distilled progressive dementia and filmed it over and over and over again.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 01:14:39 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 01:14:39 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
Never heard of her but she sounds like some C list celebrity.Arent the majority of them blandness personified ?
I just looked her up and she looks like someone you would find in FHM or Nuts magazine.They all look the same to me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2010, 01:17:40 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2010, 01:17:40 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 30 January, 2010, 12:11:33 PMQuote from: Garageman on 30 January, 2010, 11:58:17 AMQuote from: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
I wholeheartedly agree, lowest common denominator totty for those whose grasp exceeds their reach.
Maybe, but you would, given a chance, wouldn't you?
Yes?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2010, 01:18:32 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 30 January, 2010, 01:18:32 PM
Oops! A bit big- but I make no apologies!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:19:42 PM
Maybe some of us have, but we've forgotten all about it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 28 January, 2010, 06:52:01 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 28 January, 2010, 06:19:42 PMMade me smile that comment. Yes, there is something really annoying about square plates.
Square plates are another.I will not eat off square plates.Stupid designer rubbish.
What winds me up is what I call the 'poncification' of foods. Eg olive oil. In Mediterranean countries it's more common than butter, often bought in giant tins. No big deal about it. And yet it's often presented here as some flashy premium product and I've seen snooty foodies tasting it on cookery programmes out of wine glasses.
I saw one food programme and the dad said "I would say we are a trendy family. We eat pasta and drink cappuccino."
There is something pretentious about the word Cappucino or Latte.I refuse to use that word as i always ask for a milky coffee.I dont see the appeal of all these generic coffee shop chains like Starbucks and CafeNero.The people that drink coffee and sit there reading their broadsheets think they are the height of sophistication.Twats.
To be fair though there is a world of difference between mass produced olive oil and something like a single estate cold pressed extra virgin olive oil but mass produced extra virgin olive oil is perfectly good for cooking with.
I suppose to be fair once again someone else enthuses over the subtle woody overtones of an olive oil in the way you or i might enthuse over comic art.Whatever turns them on and makes them happy.
Any place you eat in that calls itself a "Brasserie" is a guarantee of snobbish pretentiousness and Yuppies and i wont go in those places.
Have you ever been in the food shop in Harvey Nichols ? I have a few times and anyone who thinks M+S is overpriced and snobbish will hate it in there.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 02:07:12 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:11:40 PMWholehearted agreement from me on that. 24, Heroes and, ooooooh, lots more American tv drama of recent years are also complete boredom on tape. Or disc, whatever.
...Lost.
It's like someone has distilled progressive dementia and filmed it over and over and over again.
Rachel Stevens is bland as white sliced bread which, contrary to popular belief, is not the best thing since bread and knives first tied for first place. I wouldn't actually. There are plenty of fine fine ladies I'd "do" - but personality and slightly more interesting looks are prerequisites. She's anonymous and dull. No thanks.
I also loathe food snobbery. And I refuse to ask for an "Americano" when we all know I want a "plain black filter coffee, one sugar". To which I always get a "would you like milk in your Grande Americano?" No. And eff right off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
I went into a brasserie once. I was very, very disappointed - there wasn't a brassiere in sight, and no unfettered boobies neither.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 02:22:05 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 02:07:12 PMQuote from: The Legendary Shark on 30 January, 2010, 01:11:40 PMWholehearted agreement from me on that. 24, Heroes and, ooooooh, lots more American tv drama of recent years are also complete boredom on tape. Or disc, whatever.
...Lost.
It's like someone has distilled progressive dementia and filmed it over and over and over again.
I also loathe food snobbery. And I refuse to ask for an "Americano" when we all know I want a "plain black filter coffee, one sugar". To which I always get a "would you like milk in your Grande Americano?" No. And eff right off.
"I would like an iced FrappucinnoConPanneMachiattoDolceLatteAmericano..."
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 30 January, 2010, 02:47:35 PM
Post by: Mikey on 30 January, 2010, 02:47:35 PM
Quotesomething pretentious about the word Cappucino or Latte.
Eh? Cappuccino's Italian! Milky coffe isn't cappuccino you stunade!
But latte? Ever seen Curb Your Enthusiasm? There's one where he goes into a cafe and I think you'd like what happens...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBNOB7FkSSM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBNOB7FkSSM)
M
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 02:07:12 PM
And I refuse to ask for an "Americano" when we all know I want a "plain black filter coffee, one sugar".
An you'd be quite right not to do so: an Americano is a shot of espresso with added hot water (a filter coffee is more generally called a 'brew').
The Greeks quite sensibly have different words for coffee with different degrees of sweetness, strength and milk (e.g. sketos = black, no sugar; metrios = medium strength , one sugar etc.). Sadly their idea of modern coffee tends towards ghastly Nescafé instant, to the extent that the most common term I heard used for non-Turkish coffee was 'Nes'.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 30 January, 2010, 02:47:35 PM
But latte? Ever seen Curb Your Enthusiasm? There's one where he goes into a cafe and I think you'd like what happens...
Ugh. What a git! I don't think I could bear to watch that programme, even though I've only ever heard good things about it.
But if you want 'milky coffee,' that's not necessarily the same thing as a latte. Isn't cafe au lait just a coffee with a generous splash of cold milk on top, the way people drink it at their desks in offices?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 03:36:27 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 03:36:27 PM
Black/White/1 lump/2 lump/no lump. Coffee. Out of a filter of some description. Keep your espressos and your lattes, they're vile. And not just because of the booby-fat.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 30 January, 2010, 03:45:41 PM
Post by: Mikey on 30 January, 2010, 03:45:41 PM
Ush - I love that show! And, erm, Mrs Mikey suspects that I am actually Larry David sometimes :-\
And Mike - Espresso is the biz! No milk, no sugar, just straight caffeine! Why, only this morning I had three while reading the Grauniad...
M.
And Mike - Espresso is the biz! No milk, no sugar, just straight caffeine! Why, only this morning I had three while reading the Grauniad...
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
'Booby-fat.' :-\
It's like the first item on the list of ingredients from when they first started experimenting to make margarine.
It's like the first item on the list of ingredients from when they first started experimenting to make margarine.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 03:36:27 PM
And not just because of the booby-fat.
Reminds me of Halo Jones and her 'congealed mammary fluid', and "Eggs? Like from some creature's ovaries?.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 30 January, 2010, 04:12:39 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 30 January, 2010, 04:12:39 PM
Um Neros has 3 different blends of expresso in their Americanos. As a recovering alcoholic I enjoy seeking an alternative hit against my inhibitions. ;-)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 05:35:25 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 05:35:25 PM
heres an example of the kind of pretentious rubbish i am talking about :
http://www.terreaterre.co.uk/_pages/02_food/01_background.htm
No chance of overeating if you eat in that place.
http://www.terreaterre.co.uk/_pages/02_food/01_background.htm
No chance of overeating if you eat in that place.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 30 January, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 30 January, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
I just looked at their menus!
drooool
If you want good cheap veggie food piled high on big plates go to the Hare Krihsna restaurants
drooool
If you want good cheap veggie food piled high on big plates go to the Hare Krihsna restaurants
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 30 January, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
Sounds like good advice.
I might nip next door for a sausage to go with it though. I flat out LOVE veggie food. I just love it with a spot of meat as well. I know, I'd make a rubbish vegetarian.
I might nip next door for a sausage to go with it though. I flat out LOVE veggie food. I just love it with a spot of meat as well. I know, I'd make a rubbish vegetarian.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 30 January, 2010, 07:40:02 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 30 January, 2010, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 30 January, 2010, 11:51:35 AM
It's not exactly topical I know, but I don't understand the appeal of Rachel Stevens. She's blandness on toast.
Simon Amstell declared her the most boring person he'd ever interviewed, also she's got webbed feet - I'd wager that if you actually were getting down to some sexitime with her she'd have to mime to a backing tape...
yeah I know, I'm a terrible bitch *grin*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 07:52:35 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2010, 07:52:35 PM
Never understood the appeal of Rachel Stevens myself, mediocrity on a stick AFAIC. Former bandmate Hannah Spearitt, now, that's a different matter...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 31 January, 2010, 01:25:26 AM
Post by: HdE on 31 January, 2010, 01:25:26 AM
Quote from: wild-seven on 30 January, 2010, 07:40:02 PM
Simon Amstell declared her the most boring person he'd ever interviewed, also she's got webbed feet - I'd wager that if you actually were getting down to some sexitime with her she'd have to mime to a backing tape...
yeah I know, I'm a terrible bitch *grin*
Ah, but when you come out with gems like that, we love ya for it! :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 January, 2010, 02:02:09 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 January, 2010, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: johnnystress on 30 January, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
I just looked at their menus!
drooool
If you want good cheap veggie food piled high on big plates go to the Hare Krihsna restaurants
Looking at the menu :
I havent got a clue what Thirteen fifty Spring Time Trithy is meant to be
Theres another called Black bean Cellophane Frisbee :lol:
Does that have Cellophane in it ?
And another called Kibbi Our soles :lol:
That should be called Kibbi Arseholes.
Click on "Whet your appetite" to see more of that absurd pretentious rubbish.
I have no idea why they employ so many chefs to cook so little food.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 31 January, 2010, 02:35:44 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 31 January, 2010, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 30 January, 2010, 01:59:48 PMEr, I just had a cappucino in CafeNero about an hour ago. It was alright. Nothing special. I know that you meant anyone who has a coffee there apart from SuperSurfer is a twat, so no hard feelings. Where else is there on many a high street to have a coffee – all those brands have taken over. I never was into greasy spoon cafes (not that there are many of those around). As for Starbucks cappucino, that is just a cup of froth to me.
There is something pretentious about the word Cappucino or Latte.I refuse to use that word as i always ask for a milky coffee.I dont see the appeal of all these generic coffee shop chains like Starbucks and CafeNero.The people that drink coffee and sit there reading their broadsheets think they are the height of sophistication.Twats.
To be fair though there is a world of difference between mass produced olive oil and something like a single estate cold pressed extra virgin olive oil but mass produced extra virgin olive oil is perfectly good for cooking with.
In fact I am addicted to cappucino. But I am mildly embarrassed ordering it in Italian places as coffee with milk is considered a kid's drink otherwise it is a morning drink, if I have my facts correct. I know someone who was out with a big group of Italians who found it hilarious that he was having a cappucino in the afternoon and someone else told me once he heard the word "bambino" called out jokingly when he ordered a cappucino.
In Holland tea with milk is considered a kid's drink. I can't stand tea myself.
As for 'Nes'(café) in Greece being bland. Yes, but as iced coffeee, it is a damn good drink. Otherwise known as frappé, so that's an other coffee term to stick on the list.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 31 January, 2010, 03:46:49 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 31 January, 2010, 03:46:49 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 31 January, 2010, 02:35:44 PM
But I am mildly embarrassed ordering it in Italian places as coffee with milk is considered a kid's drink otherwise it is a morning drink, if I have my facts correct.
You're absolutely correct. That said, the urban Italians have some bloody odd ideas about breakfast, not least the standing-up part.
Quote
As for 'Nes'(café) in Greece being bland. Yes, but as iced coffeee, it is a damn good drink.
No arguments there, I live on the stuff come summer.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 05 February, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 05 February, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
What the funt is all this crap on the news about John Terry? (I believe he plays some sort of game played with an inflated pigs bladder?) Last time I looked "Footballer shags rough looking slapper up the wrong 'un" wasn't earth shattering international news
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 February, 2010, 10:48:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 05 February, 2010, 10:48:49 PM
Agreed.
Who? What? And most important question of all: WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It's a game. Games aren't news.
Who? What? And most important question of all: WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It's a game. Games aren't news.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 05 February, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 05 February, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Just because he shagged another players wife it doesn't make him a worse player.
If I did the same I don't think my boss would say ooo you cant do your job now.
V
If I did the same I don't think my boss would say ooo you cant do your job now.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dog Deever on 06 February, 2010, 12:09:26 AM
Post by: Dog Deever on 06 February, 2010, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: wild-seven on 05 February, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
What the funt is all this crap on the news about John Terry? (I believe he plays some sort of game played with an inflated pigs bladder?) Last time I looked "Footballer shags rough looking slapper up the wrong 'un" wasn't earth shattering international news
There's a wrong 'un?
:o
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 06 February, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 06 February, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
Quote from: wild-seven on 05 February, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
Last time I looked "Footballer shags rough looking slapper up the wrong 'un" wasn't earth shattering international news
Was that part of the story? I must have missed that bit - it didn't make the front pages or the BBC news, and I don't buy the papers.
Latest development I heard was it's now at least TWO players' girlfriends. He's quite a lad, isn't he? I can imagine that would tend to undermine players' morale. Oh well. Not very important - it's only sport.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 06 February, 2010, 12:36:17 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 06 February, 2010, 12:36:17 AM
Its selling tomorrow's papers as the story that rocked the world of sport. Pfft.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
World of Sport? What, Dickie Davis?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 February, 2010, 11:54:11 AM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 06 February, 2010, 11:54:11 AM
Time was (and I'm showing my age now) when being a top shagger and drinker was positively encouraged among sports stars. And then they'd retire and open a boutique.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
Sheesh, if tupping your mates' girlfriends is newsworthy, there'd have been nobody at my wedding but reporters...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 06 February, 2010, 12:24:58 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 06 February, 2010, 12:24:58 PM
I think if the Captain shagging his teammates' girlfriends in secret is going to have a detrimental effect on trust and their performance on the pitch, then perhaps they should get it out in the open, maybe institutionalize it. Book several hotel suites, order up a crate of champagne from room service and make a party of it. I thought that was what footballers did anyway the point of being a football player.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 01:21:01 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 05 February, 2010, 10:48:49 PM
Agreed.
Who? What? And most important question of all: WHY SHOULD I CARE?
It's a game. Games aren't news.
What ?
Sport ?..........ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
Anyway the antics of John Terry are far more newsworthy than the US State Dept finally admitting after 5 weeks of lying that the Detroit Xmas day bombing incident was a staged event therefore negating the need for all these creepy intrusive X Ray death trap scanners that are appearing everywhere.
Yes lets all ignore that topic completely and focus on the John Terry "Scandal" and if there are sexual shenanigans involved then that just makes it all the better for us.
What does anyone expect from the cesspit that is the trash muppet media anyway ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 01:36:40 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 01:21:01 PM... the US State Dept finally admitting after 5 weeks of lying that the Detroit Xmas day bombing incident was a staged event
Ummm ... I don't think they've admitted anything of the sort. Can you back that up at all?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 02:02:34 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 01:36:40 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 01:21:01 PM... the US State Dept finally admitting after 5 weeks of lying that the Detroit Xmas day bombing incident was a staged event
Ummm ... I don't think they've admitted anything of the sort. Can you back that up at all?
The US State Dept has admitted that the "Sharp dressed man" who was seen escorting the Nigerian onto the plane without a passport was a US intelligence operative and that this was because the intelligence agency that the sharp dressed man was working for allowed this to happen because they were trying to find out who the Nigerian was conspiring with.
Part of a wider operation if you please .
Heres a link to a Google search of the topic :
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=US+state+dept+knew+about+sharp+dressed+man&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
I dont have a habit of making things up or lying BTW.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Do me a favour, Peter, you might not make things up but you certainly like to put your own spin on things sometimes!!!!! Are you seriously saying that the American security services "staged" the attempted bombing, if so, you're off with the fairies, Mate.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 02:24:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 02:24:55 PM
There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home......
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 02:28:01 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 02:28:01 PM
They've staged assassinations. What's a bomb between friends?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:31:58 PM
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:31:58 PM
Yeah! Right!! Where's the grassy knoll!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Do me a favour, Peter, you might not make things up but you certainly like to put your own spin on things sometimes!!!!! Are you seriously saying that the American security services "staged" the attempted bombing, if so, you're off with the fairies, Mate.
Anybody who thinks that governments DON'T kill their own citizens from time to time in order to justify their own existence and to keep money flowing in the right direction (ie, to their friends and family in the oil/weapons/banking industries) isn't just away with the faeries but surrounded by gnomes, elves, unicorns and pixies as well.
The world is not what they tell you it is.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 02:41:50 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 02:41:50 PM
Or they just simply have their heads in the sand.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
You sure you guys aren't in the CIA? How'd you know I've got gnomes and fairies? They're "wintering" in the garage at the moment, along with the frog band, but I'll be bringing them all out in the Spring!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 02:54:01 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 02:54:01 PM
Look up "Operation Northwoods," for example.
Consider, for a moment, how much money the friends (and families) of politicians have made in Iraq and Afghanistan - not just through selling weapons and stealing oil/opium, either. These things are just the very small tip of a very large iceberg.
We don't matter to these people.
Consider, for a moment, how much money the friends (and families) of politicians have made in Iraq and Afghanistan - not just through selling weapons and stealing oil/opium, either. These things are just the very small tip of a very large iceberg.
We don't matter to these people.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
Do me a favour, Peter, you might not make things up but you certainly like to put your own spin on things sometimes!!!!! Are you seriously saying that the American security services "staged" the attempted bombing, if so, you're off with the fairies, Mate.
Have you got a problem reading and understanding plain English ?
Why should i do you any favors ?
"Patrick F. Kennedy, an undersecretary for management at the State Department, said Abdulmutallab's visa wasn't taken away because intelligence officials asked his agency not to deny a visa to the suspected terrorist over concerns that a denial would've foiled a larger investigation into al-Qaida threats against the United States.
"Revocation action would've disclosed what they were doing," Kennedy said in testimony before the House Committee on Homeland Security. Allowing Adbulmutallab to keep the visa increased chances federal investigators would be able to get closer to apprehending the terror network he is accused of working with, "rather than simply knocking out one solider in that effort."
That is an official statement from an official source.
Link to article :
http://detnews.com/article/20100127/NATION/1270405/Terror-suspect-kept-visa-to-avoid-tipping-off-larger-investigation
My point here is quite simple.This topic should be being covered by the mainstream media rather than inconsequential rubbish about John Terry.I used this topic as an example.
Anything else you dont understand ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 03:00:20 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 03:00:20 PM
Um, er, footballer doing slapper up the wrong 'un anyone? Hello?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Post by: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Sorry, Pete, didn't mean to wind you up, just a bit of "kick about" on my part. Now, about John Terry.................!!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 03:29:13 PM
People don't want the truth, it scares them. I mean, who wants to be told that our own governments are lying to us, cheating us, killing us and even stealing from us and our unborn kids? Nobody even wants to consider such a possibility because it's not only deeply frightening but also embarrassing to think that well educated and informed people like ourselves could be so comprehensively hoodwinked. It's much easier to think that these ideas are pure poppycock and comfort yourself that they must be poppycock because most people agree with that assessment.
Instead, look at the randy footballer, the corrupt politician and the daft celebrity. These stories make us feel easier about the world because we can revel in the fact that we are morally and intellectually superior to these morons.
Instead, look at the randy footballer, the corrupt politician and the daft celebrity. These stories make us feel easier about the world because we can revel in the fact that we are morally and intellectually superior to these morons.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
Post by: uncle fester on 06 February, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
A depressingly accurate summary of what's important to people now.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
I wasn't challenging your points, Shark/Peter - I was merely terrified the thread had got the early stages of carcinoma forumina.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 04:03:30 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: Old Tankie on 06 February, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Sorry, Pete, didn't mean to wind you up, just a bit of "kick about" on my part. Now, about John Terry.................!!!
OK then why should John Terry be stripped of the Captaincy on the basis of allegations that have yet to be proved ?Does he get reinstated if the allegations are false?
What does someones private have to do with their ability to kick a ball around on a pitch if it doesnt affect their ability to do so ?
Would anyone here be happy to lose their job over allegations ?
Seems a bit unfair to me but of course his replacement is only too happy to take over the position as Captain !!Lots more ££££££££££££££££££££s !
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
I've had a look at those links and they all go back to one sourcee, a passenger called Kurt "look at me I'm in the middle of an international spy story" Haskell who claims to have seen a "sharp dressed man". The feds and the news media haven't run with this because there doesn't seem to be any supporting evidence.
The only thing the state dept have "admitted" is that they knew about the bomber and made one of their usual brilliant tactical decisions to follow and monitor him rather than arrest him. I cannot find any admission anywhere that the event was "staged", which was your original claim.
I would never accuse you of making stuff up Peter, but whilst you show a more than healthy scepticism towards the official version of events, or the consensus of the many mainstream media outlets, you're happy to swallow some very dubious stuff off the internet.
The only thing the state dept have "admitted" is that they knew about the bomber and made one of their usual brilliant tactical decisions to follow and monitor him rather than arrest him. I cannot find any admission anywhere that the event was "staged", which was your original claim.
I would never accuse you of making stuff up Peter, but whilst you show a more than healthy scepticism towards the official version of events, or the consensus of the many mainstream media outlets, you're happy to swallow some very dubious stuff off the internet.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
Don't worry about me, Mike, I don't get at all upset by reactions to my views on this any more. In fact, I expect to be challenged and even vilified or mocked when I post this stuff. I don't take it to heart and I'd never want to fall out with anyone over this. I wouldn't be surprised if someday I'm found dead because of my views; appearing in the paper as a suicide or accident. Maybe even accused of something vile so that people stop paying attention to me. If I am correct about what I believe, though, it's a price I'm willing to pay. If I'm incorrect (and I really hope that I am), then I'm content just to be some nutter spouting conspiracy bullshit and howling at the moon. All I ask is, can anyone afford to dismiss this stuff out of hand?
Oh, and I don't care about some footballer dipping his wick where he shouldn't. It's happening all over the world and it's happening right now. It'll still be happening tomorrow. Hell, if I suddenly had his fame and his money, I'd be at like a rabid rabbit as well. Who wouldn't? If you want your public figures to be saints, you're on a hiding to nothing from the start.
Anyway, back to being a 2000AD message board?
Oh, and I don't care about some footballer dipping his wick where he shouldn't. It's happening all over the world and it's happening right now. It'll still be happening tomorrow. Hell, if I suddenly had his fame and his money, I'd be at like a rabid rabbit as well. Who wouldn't? If you want your public figures to be saints, you're on a hiding to nothing from the start.
Anyway, back to being a 2000AD message board?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 04:40:44 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 04:40:44 PM
If it's all the same with you, Shark old chum, I *will* worry about you. Not in the "he's a mentile, run away" fashion, but in the "I hope he's not framed for a crime he didn't commit and left face down in a cheap hooker's lap full of drugs and with needle holes in the soles of his feet" kind of way.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 06 February, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Aww, that's the nicest thing anybody's said to me all week :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2010, 04:55:53 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 06 February, 2010, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
...who claims to have seen a "sharp dressed man".
Holy crap, ZZ Top are involved? Deep down I knew it as soon as I saw the beard on that Bin Laden fella...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 February, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
I've had a look at those links and they all go back to one sourcee, a passenger called Kurt "look at me I'm in the middle of an international spy story" Haskell who claims to have seen a "sharp dressed man". The feds and the news media haven't run with this because there doesn't seem to be any supporting evidence.
The only thing the state dept have "admitted" is that they knew about the bomber and made one of their usual brilliant tactical decisions to follow and monitor him rather than arrest him. I cannot find any admission anywhere that the event was "staged", which was your original claim.
I would never accuse you of making stuff up Peter, but whilst you show a more than healthy scepticism towards the official version of events, or the consensus of the many mainstream media outlets, you're happy to swallow some very dubious stuff off the internet.
I have to admit that my initial comment was worded wrongly as it made a false claim but that wasnt an effort to deceive or i wouldnt have posted information that contradicts my comment.
However this information does point to the fact the US govt was doing a little more than just following someone because apparently this Nigerian individual did manage to board a plane without a passport.
Just how does an alleged terror suspect manage to board a plane without a passport ?
The only way to do that in todays climate of excessive security measures is for the govt to make arrangements to make it possible.The admittance by the US State dept at the very least points to the fact that the US govt intelligence agencies were complicit in this event as they admit that it was part of a wider operation so therefore why is this event if it was govt/intelligence orchestrated be used as a pretext for even more excessive security measures when it would have been appropriate for them to have admitted publically that it was one of their own operations that went wrong ?
Anyone ever tried boarding a plane without a passport ?
Should the US Govt be staging these kinds of operations that put air travellers at risk ?
Wether the event was staged is really up to you to decide but i believe it was staged as firstly one or more of the intelligence agencies was staging an intelligence gathering operation [as it has admitted] so in that sense it was staged and secondly i believe the event has been used as a pretext for the use airport scanners in airports which very conveniently were just waiting to be wheeled out at a moments notice.
So if the event was a result of an intelligence operation that went wrong then the pretext we are given for the use of body scanners at airports should be rejected out of hand as it is false.
Finally if "the war on terror" taking it at face value is such a high priority then surely the account of the Haskells should be investigated as a priority rather than dismissed or discredited provided that they are not lying of course.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 05:19:17 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 06 February, 2010, 04:55:53 PMThat thought occurred to me too. Listening to Tejas as we speak. Thanks for crystalising that idea, TordelBack.Quote from: Dandontdare on 06 February, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
...who claims to have seen a "sharp dressed man".
Holy crap, ZZ Top are involved? Deep down I knew it as soon as I saw the beard on that Bin Laden fella...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 06 February, 2010, 07:06:53 PM
Post by: HdE on 06 February, 2010, 07:06:53 PM
That whole John Terry thing is just ridiculous. It's like it's only newsworthy because he's a well-known premiership footballer.
Oh, and 'well known premiership footballer' is a long-winded way of saying something much ruder, in my book.
I had to laugh at the absurdity of it. We have a football league that revels in punishing folks for their indiscretions, and yet - why? As if footballers are some example to be held high in terms of morals and personal excellence.
On the other hand, I caught sight of the Sun's front page today, where Terry says 'I'm gutted, this hurts, but I'm going to fight back!'
Yeah. John Terry, I'm rooting for you - I DON'T THINK! Absurd though it may be, you got caught out fiddling around with someone else's wife. You've caused one of the worst kinds of hurt to somebody that a human being can inflict on another. And now you've lost your job as what looks like a direct result of that.
Aw diddums.
Oh, and 'well known premiership footballer' is a long-winded way of saying something much ruder, in my book.
I had to laugh at the absurdity of it. We have a football league that revels in punishing folks for their indiscretions, and yet - why? As if footballers are some example to be held high in terms of morals and personal excellence.
On the other hand, I caught sight of the Sun's front page today, where Terry says 'I'm gutted, this hurts, but I'm going to fight back!'
Yeah. John Terry, I'm rooting for you - I DON'T THINK! Absurd though it may be, you got caught out fiddling around with someone else's wife. You've caused one of the worst kinds of hurt to somebody that a human being can inflict on another. And now you've lost your job as what looks like a direct result of that.
Aw diddums.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 07:19:40 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 07:19:40 PM
The notion of an arsehole losing out through being a complete arsehole, while I can't quite defend it, seems nice somehow.
It would appear he's not denying the allegations then? In that case I reckon he gets a taste of the unpleasantness he's inflicted on others. Good.
Uplifting? Certainly. But not news.
It would appear he's not denying the allegations then? In that case I reckon he gets a taste of the unpleasantness he's inflicted on others. Good.
Uplifting? Certainly. But not news.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 06 February, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
Post by: HdE on 06 February, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
Mah pointz exacterly, Mistah Gloady ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 09:30:25 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 06 February, 2010, 09:30:25 PM
It's MAH favourite podcast.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 07 February, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
Post by: staticgirl on 07 February, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
I don't understand the appeal of Florence Welsh from Florence and the Machine. Her voice that is as I can see she is quite spectacularly attractive. Can she actually hold a note in tune? It's too harsh and there doesn't seem to be any variation. Plus she attempted to murder that Candy Statton song. I hope that she develops the voice though as it could end up being really beautiful like Siouxsie's has.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 07 February, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 07 February, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
I had no idea who this Florence person was, but after a bit of YouTubery I find her music easy on the ear, and boy she sure is purdy. Thanks SG!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 07 February, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 07 February, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Au contraire! I think Florence Welsh has a very, very beautiful voice, but I can't stand her music at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 February, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 07 February, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
I don't know. A limited, mannered, even abrasive or affectless voice can be very effective. The likes of Joanna Newsom, Billie Ray Martin, Karin Drejer from out of The Knife and even, to a lesser extent, La Roux all pull it off and she's got a better voice than the last one on that list for sure.
I agree that her covering You Got the Love is almost as pointless as Marilyn Manson doing Sweet Dreams.
I agree that her covering You Got the Love is almost as pointless as Marilyn Manson doing Sweet Dreams.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 07 February, 2010, 03:02:13 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 07 February, 2010, 03:02:13 PM
....why everyone particularly musicians when they answer a question the answer is always "Its amazing !"
Do you like playing live ? - "Yeah its amazing !"
Are you enjoying the festival ? "Yeah Festivals are amazing !"
What do you think of the new album by blah di blah ? "Its amazing ! amazing songs on there"
Have you enjoyed the European tour and seeing Europe ? "It was amazing.The fans were amazing too"
And all that kind of thing......
Do you like playing live ? - "Yeah its amazing !"
Are you enjoying the festival ? "Yeah Festivals are amazing !"
What do you think of the new album by blah di blah ? "Its amazing ! amazing songs on there"
Have you enjoyed the European tour and seeing Europe ? "It was amazing.The fans were amazing too"
And all that kind of thing......
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 February, 2010, 03:08:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 07 February, 2010, 03:08:18 PM
Musicians? OI! I've got a vocabulary, don't lump me in with that lot.
Substitute "musicians" with "idiots, knob-ends and scumbags" and I'll agree.
For example - Coldplay are musicians. But so are James Last, Steve Cropper and Alice Cooper. To narrow down the TYPE of person you're talking about, use "knob-end" or "idiot" and we're all with you. NOW we know you mean people like Coldplay and it doesn't impune the likes of Mozart, Billie Holiday, Jazzy Jeff OR the Fresh Prince.
Rant over.
Substitute "musicians" with "idiots, knob-ends and scumbags" and I'll agree.
For example - Coldplay are musicians. But so are James Last, Steve Cropper and Alice Cooper. To narrow down the TYPE of person you're talking about, use "knob-end" or "idiot" and we're all with you. NOW we know you mean people like Coldplay and it doesn't impune the likes of Mozart, Billie Holiday, Jazzy Jeff OR the Fresh Prince.
Rant over.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 07 February, 2010, 03:50:36 PM
Post by: HdE on 07 February, 2010, 03:50:36 PM
Funniest rant ever, Mike!
I dunno why people go crazy for Florence And The Machine. That act seems so... I dunno... half-baked? Like most English chart music.
I dunno why people go crazy for Florence And The Machine. That act seems so... I dunno... half-baked? Like most English chart music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 07 February, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 07 February, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
It sounds like th3e kind of thing that you would hear on Radio 2 as part of their playlist.
Not my kind of voice or music and i dont even think that she is that wonderful looking either.Sounds a bit like KTTunstall and she was really irritating.
No thanks.
Not my kind of voice or music and i dont even think that she is that wonderful looking either.Sounds a bit like KTTunstall and she was really irritating.
No thanks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 07 February, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 07 February, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Cosh - yeah I know what you mean... she might grow on me..
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 09 February, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 09 February, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
I don't understand the appeal of 'Sex and the City' - it's just a dull soap opera about some old women who get a LOT of dick and shoes
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 09 February, 2010, 06:39:09 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 09 February, 2010, 06:39:09 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 09 February, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
I don't understand the appeal of 'Sex and the City' - it's just a dull soap opera about some old women who get a LOT of dick and shoes
My wife uses it as part threat, part cautionary tale. When I try to convince her that my expensive geek habits are way better than an addiction to football, cigarettes or strippers, she points at whatever Sex and the City indicator species is nearby and cackles: "Yeah, and I could be like that".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 February, 2010, 08:49:59 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 February, 2010, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 09 February, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
I don't understand the appeal of 'Sex and the City'
The clue is in the word 'sex.' And the major draw is Samantha, not Carrie. Miranda's a bit of alright too. Charlotte isn't.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 09 February, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 09 February, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Desperate Housewives. The missus is mad on it. Tried sitting down with her to watch it, what a pile of tosh.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 February, 2010, 11:40:38 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 09 February, 2010, 11:40:38 PM
I wouldn't touch any of the old brasses on S&TC with YOURS. As they said in (i think) Family Guy: "Isn't that the show about the three whores and their mum?"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 09 February, 2010, 11:57:11 PM
Post by: HdE on 09 February, 2010, 11:57:11 PM
Oddly enough, bouncing off Mike's post, I don't see the appeal of Family Guy... not anymore, anyway.
It USED to be the funniest show on the box. But the writers seem determined to take it into the 'must-see shock-TV' direction. And that's when any show loses me. It's got to a point where the stuff going on in that show isn't funny at all. It's just outrageous, and desperately so for being so obviously contrived.
It USED to be the funniest show on the box. But the writers seem determined to take it into the 'must-see shock-TV' direction. And that's when any show loses me. It's got to a point where the stuff going on in that show isn't funny at all. It's just outrageous, and desperately so for being so obviously contrived.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 10 February, 2010, 08:27:14 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 10 February, 2010, 08:27:14 PM
I don't understand the appeal of parking right outside one's house, leaving just slightly less than a whole car space between one's own car and the next one.
It never seems to occur to my neighbours that if they parked closer to the cars already parked in my street then eveyone who lives in the street might be able to park in it instead of having to look for a space round the corner in the next street. The twats.
It never seems to occur to my neighbours that if they parked closer to the cars already parked in my street then eveyone who lives in the street might be able to park in it instead of having to look for a space round the corner in the next street. The twats.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 February, 2010, 08:52:46 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 February, 2010, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 10 February, 2010, 08:27:14 PM
I don't understand the appeal of parking right outside one's house, leaving just slightly less than a whole car space between one's own car and the next one.
It never seems to occur to my neighbours that if they parked closer to the cars already parked in my street then eveyone who lives in the street might be able to park in it instead of having to look for a space round the corner in the next street. The twats.
On the other hand, I hate parking in a busy street only to come back and find some gits have parked so close to my bumpers I can't pull out again! But that space-wasting does piss me off outside my flats, which has space for front-on parking, but no actual marked bays. People leave enough room for them to open both doors wide thus taking up enough room for two cars.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 February, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 February, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
I dont see the appeal of US standup comedian Doug Stanhope because in my opinion he is just an overweight filthy degenerate slob and a hypocrite.
Yeeuuucchh.
Yeeuuucchh.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 10 February, 2010, 11:49:47 PM
Post by: HdE on 10 February, 2010, 11:49:47 PM
Well, I don't understand the situation with all these overpaid twonks blowing their savings on imported supercars or boy-racer-mobiles.
I seethe when I walk through Tesco's car park and see these vehicles parked across two parking spaces - y'know, just so as somebody in a regular, affordable motor doesn't accidentally ding the shiny new Supra or GTO or whatever. So selfish.
I knew a guy who bought a Toyota Supra once, and dictated to passengers that they must not bring food or drink into his car - even if it was in an unopened container. Coz it might spill! And - OH NO! He'd have a dirty supercar!
The same prize idiot also refused to drive into certain local areas because he was concerned that his pwecious wittuw Supwa might get dirty.
The joke of it is, the twazzer lived in a rural area, and within about six weeks the silver dream machine was plastered with all kinds of muck and filth.
Gah! These people!
I seethe when I walk through Tesco's car park and see these vehicles parked across two parking spaces - y'know, just so as somebody in a regular, affordable motor doesn't accidentally ding the shiny new Supra or GTO or whatever. So selfish.
I knew a guy who bought a Toyota Supra once, and dictated to passengers that they must not bring food or drink into his car - even if it was in an unopened container. Coz it might spill! And - OH NO! He'd have a dirty supercar!
The same prize idiot also refused to drive into certain local areas because he was concerned that his pwecious wittuw Supwa might get dirty.
The joke of it is, the twazzer lived in a rural area, and within about six weeks the silver dream machine was plastered with all kinds of muck and filth.
Gah! These people!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 20 February, 2010, 11:50:12 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 20 February, 2010, 11:50:12 PM
... eating food in a supermarket before it's been paid for and then taking the empty or half eaten bag to the till. How arrogant! The other day in the supermarket I kept on hearing a woman making a really loud crunching sound as she was munching a bag of Japanese crackers. Double annoying! >:( >:( (see what I did there) It's not yours, you haven't paid for it. Buy it, leave and then eat it!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 20 February, 2010, 11:57:27 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 20 February, 2010, 11:57:27 PM
Agreed. What is wrong with such people?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 12:27:37 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 12:27:37 AM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 20 February, 2010, 11:50:12 PM
... eating food in a supermarket before it's been paid for and then taking the empty or half eaten bag to the till. How arrogant! The other day in the supermarket I kept on hearing a woman making a really loud crunching sound as she was munching a bag of Japanese crackers. Double annoying! >:( >:( (see what I did there) It's not yours, you haven't paid for it. Buy it, leave and then eat it!!
I eat or drink while shopping in a supermarkets sometimes but more often than not i dont so its just as and when.Never thought of it as being arrogant either but seeing as i do this it probably is.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 09:26:49 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 09:26:49 AM
It's pig ignorant. How the hell does the shop know you've got the money? Until you've paid for it, it aint yours so don't stick it in your bloody gob.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 09:26:49 AM
It's pig ignorant. How the hell does the shop know you've got the money? Until you've paid for it, it aint yours so don't stick it in your bloody gob.
Well if i didnt have the money i wouldnt be eating it and then paying for it once i leave the shop.You also pay for a meal if you eat out after you have eaten it.Like i said its not a habit but i am being honest in declaring that i have eaten something in a supermarket.
You can express your displeasure all you like but i would appreciate a little more politeness rather than you describing my behaviour as "pig ignorant" as i am very far from being ignorant and i could take offence at comments like that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 21 February, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 21 February, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Gotta say, I'm not a fan of people eating stuff before they've paid for it either. It's usually the chavvy scumbags that do it, and more often than not, you'll find the half-eaten remnants left dumped on a shelf somewhere for some other poor bastard to clear up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Quote...you'll find the half-eaten remnants left dumped on a shelf somewhere for some other poor bastard to clear up.
Nah, if I remember a-right Peter eats those too! :lol:
Sorry PW, sorry, just jestering. I confess guilt in the noshing-in-the-shop department - particularly fresh baked bread or fruit (after I've weighed-and-barcoded the bag, of course). There's a lot to be said for the sprog-placating powers of a grape or the end of a baguette as you push them around. Reading this I can see that it's bad behaviour, but suspect the reason I haven't seen it as a problem is that it just wouldn't occur to me that I wasn't going to pay for it - I shop off a list, I know what I have to spend and what I want (within limits). Once it's in the trolley, mission accomplished, bar the boredom of queuing, which is where the eating comes in. I suspect Peter is in a similar boat. I promise to reform.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 04:13:45 PM
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 04:13:45 PM
I'll stick up for Sex and the City.
At first I despised it for being shallow, materialistic, and promoting an unhealthy, extravagant lifestyle. But my girlfriend is a big fan, and watching the DVDs with her, the sharp, witty writing slowly won me over. The simple fact is - it's funny, often far funnier than most sitcoms and underneath all the fashion labels and blatant product placement it contains some incredibly perceptive observations on the dynamics of relationships.
I still find the lead character, Carrie to be pretty hateful - she just has a very arrogant, smug, self obsessed air about her - and Samantha - who is pitched as being this liberated, powerful extrovert - is actually closer to those tedious people who think that loudly discussing sex or drugs in public is shocking and cool - yawn.
I tend to prefer the episodes that focus on Miranda and Charlotte - who are the far more appealing light relief type characters.
The thing you have to realise is - it's fantasy.. It's escapism. Just because I'm a fan of Judge Dredd doesn't mean I share his politics or philosophy.
Florence and the Machine, La Roux, Marina and the Diamonds and all those other 80's/Kate Bush wannabe singers, on the other hand, are rubbish. Put them on the leaky boat!
At first I despised it for being shallow, materialistic, and promoting an unhealthy, extravagant lifestyle. But my girlfriend is a big fan, and watching the DVDs with her, the sharp, witty writing slowly won me over. The simple fact is - it's funny, often far funnier than most sitcoms and underneath all the fashion labels and blatant product placement it contains some incredibly perceptive observations on the dynamics of relationships.
I still find the lead character, Carrie to be pretty hateful - she just has a very arrogant, smug, self obsessed air about her - and Samantha - who is pitched as being this liberated, powerful extrovert - is actually closer to those tedious people who think that loudly discussing sex or drugs in public is shocking and cool - yawn.
I tend to prefer the episodes that focus on Miranda and Charlotte - who are the far more appealing light relief type characters.
The thing you have to realise is - it's fantasy.. It's escapism. Just because I'm a fan of Judge Dredd doesn't mean I share his politics or philosophy.
Florence and the Machine, La Roux, Marina and the Diamonds and all those other 80's/Kate Bush wannabe singers, on the other hand, are rubbish. Put them on the leaky boat!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 21 February, 2010, 04:18:45 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 21 February, 2010, 04:18:45 PM
The tantrum-avoiding tactic of giving food to kids in supermarkets is something I don't have much of a problem with, but I can't help thinking there's something a bit... juvenile about the adults I've seen doing it.
I can understand five year olds not having the patience, but grown-up folk really should be able to wait 'til they at least leave the shop before they start munching away on things. You can't be that flippin' hungry.
I can understand five year olds not having the patience, but grown-up folk really should be able to wait 'til they at least leave the shop before they start munching away on things. You can't be that flippin' hungry.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 04:22:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 04:22:48 PM
My justification for doing this when i have done it is because i was either very thirsty or very hungry and i also use a certain amount of discression rather than walking around the shop continually stuffing my face with biscuits or whatever.In other words i try not to make it obvious what i am doing.When i have gone to pay i usually make light of it by saying that i was too hungry or thirsty to wait and i have never been asked not to do it by a member of staff at the till as they usually just smile and were happy to scan an empty wrapper.
This is mostly in Waitrose but i dont recall doing this in Asda.Next time when i am in either of these shops i will ask what the shops policy is regarding this matter to hear what they have to say about it.
This is mostly in Waitrose but i dont recall doing this in Asda.Next time when i am in either of these shops i will ask what the shops policy is regarding this matter to hear what they have to say about it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 04:41:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 04:41:55 PM
Peter, TB, let me clarify. I wish to retroactively edit that post to replace "you" with "one" - I wasn't directing that AT anyone in particular.
I realise that, for the most part, folks HAVE the funds and fully intend to pay, but as a long-time retail till-turkey (in music shops for most of my life, but in supermarkets while in education), I've no way of actually knowing that. When they pay, hurray - it turns out they're NOT thieves. When they don't though, as happens surprisingly often, what exactly is the shop assistant meant to do?
Annoying in a very out-of-proportion-to-the-magnitude of the offence kind of way, because the till-turkey starts thinking "do I call for security, should I stand up to check this person out in case they're trouble and take a swing?" (that's actually happened to me, hence the thought) and all kinds of other things even before it's that person's turn. It's a real wind-up, usually for no reason.
Wasn't directing that at anybody at all, no offence intended Peter (and anyone else who does it/has done it). For the record, when I've been shopping with diabetic friends and it's happened, I've been massively thankful for the possibility of doing so. Crying kids or chronic blood sugar, whatever the reason I'm more than happy to scan an empty wrapper. Kind of wish it didn't happen though, for the stress reasons outlined above.
I realise that, for the most part, folks HAVE the funds and fully intend to pay, but as a long-time retail till-turkey (in music shops for most of my life, but in supermarkets while in education), I've no way of actually knowing that. When they pay, hurray - it turns out they're NOT thieves. When they don't though, as happens surprisingly often, what exactly is the shop assistant meant to do?
Annoying in a very out-of-proportion-to-the-magnitude of the offence kind of way, because the till-turkey starts thinking "do I call for security, should I stand up to check this person out in case they're trouble and take a swing?" (that's actually happened to me, hence the thought) and all kinds of other things even before it's that person's turn. It's a real wind-up, usually for no reason.
Wasn't directing that at anybody at all, no offence intended Peter (and anyone else who does it/has done it). For the record, when I've been shopping with diabetic friends and it's happened, I've been massively thankful for the possibility of doing so. Crying kids or chronic blood sugar, whatever the reason I'm more than happy to scan an empty wrapper. Kind of wish it didn't happen though, for the stress reasons outlined above.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 04:55:01 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 04:41:55 PM
Peter, TB, let me clarify. I wish to retroactively edit that post to replace "you" with "one" - I wasn't directing that AT anyone in particular.
No worries on my part Mike, it's a bad idea and that's that. Still, there's no resisting when the bonedeep need for the Black Milk racks my chavvish scumbag form. ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 21 February, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*
[THIS BOARDER IS REVERSING]
[THIS BOARDER IS REVERSING]
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
.....Spoiling your kids.
Some friends came to visit the other week with their 7 year old. How this child is treated by his father simply blows my mind. For a start, he is allowed to eat whatever he wants, all the time - usually either chips, crisps, toast or garlic bread (which he eats the middle of and leaves the crust). He also gets loads of praise for eating something different for a change - even something that should really be classed as a treat - like a hotdog or sausages.
The kid sits there, playing his DS with the volume on full while we are all trying to have a conversation, even when we are trying to watch a film - he knows full well that it is annoying, and if told to turn the sound down will start to make his own sound effects and commentary on the game.
He is also generally treated as if he were a toddler - his father helps him put on his shoes and frequently carries him, despite the kid being of school age - he is clearly more mature/intelligent than he lets on, because he knows he can get away with behaving that way and have everything done for him!
He also gets an outrageous amount of money spent on him - for the few days they were with us, he had around £80 worth of toys bought for him - and it wasn't even his birthday or Christmas or anything like that - and this is made all the more worrying by the fact I know his parents are quite low earners. All this, and he still managed to throw a tantrum one night because he wasn't allowed to play the Xbox.
Perhaps worst of all, the kid is allowed to go to bed whenever he wants, and stays up with us until we go to bed - usually well after midnight, preventing us all from having any time to ourselves. Me and my gilfriend refer to the kid as 'little prince' or 'lord' in private.
Now, I don't have any kids - I don't have a lot of experience with children, and maybe I'm old fashioned or something, but the few kids I do know are all seemingly spoiled rotten. I just think it's almost as bad as neglect - adult life is so hard to adjust to anyway, I think it borders on cruelty to bring your kid up, giving them everything they want. Surely you are just setting them up for some sort of breakdown when they are older?
At what point is it ok to step in, or at the very least speak out about it? These people are very close to me, but the way they carry on when the little lord is around makes me grind my teeth with anger.
Some friends came to visit the other week with their 7 year old. How this child is treated by his father simply blows my mind. For a start, he is allowed to eat whatever he wants, all the time - usually either chips, crisps, toast or garlic bread (which he eats the middle of and leaves the crust). He also gets loads of praise for eating something different for a change - even something that should really be classed as a treat - like a hotdog or sausages.
The kid sits there, playing his DS with the volume on full while we are all trying to have a conversation, even when we are trying to watch a film - he knows full well that it is annoying, and if told to turn the sound down will start to make his own sound effects and commentary on the game.
He is also generally treated as if he were a toddler - his father helps him put on his shoes and frequently carries him, despite the kid being of school age - he is clearly more mature/intelligent than he lets on, because he knows he can get away with behaving that way and have everything done for him!
He also gets an outrageous amount of money spent on him - for the few days they were with us, he had around £80 worth of toys bought for him - and it wasn't even his birthday or Christmas or anything like that - and this is made all the more worrying by the fact I know his parents are quite low earners. All this, and he still managed to throw a tantrum one night because he wasn't allowed to play the Xbox.
Perhaps worst of all, the kid is allowed to go to bed whenever he wants, and stays up with us until we go to bed - usually well after midnight, preventing us all from having any time to ourselves. Me and my gilfriend refer to the kid as 'little prince' or 'lord' in private.
Now, I don't have any kids - I don't have a lot of experience with children, and maybe I'm old fashioned or something, but the few kids I do know are all seemingly spoiled rotten. I just think it's almost as bad as neglect - adult life is so hard to adjust to anyway, I think it borders on cruelty to bring your kid up, giving them everything they want. Surely you are just setting them up for some sort of breakdown when they are older?
At what point is it ok to step in, or at the very least speak out about it? These people are very close to me, but the way they carry on when the little lord is around makes me grind my teeth with anger.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
QuoteI just think it's almost as bad as neglect - adult life is so hard to adjust to anyway, I think it borders on cruelty to bring your kid up, giving them everything they want. Surely you are just setting them up for some sort of breakdown when they are older?
Spot on, Radiator. What looks like parental indulgence can frequently be laziness - it's a damn sight easier for a parent to ignore a blaring DS than it is to enter into a cycle of discipline, tantrums and punishment, especially in public (too many relatives and casual passers-by like nothing more than to stop and console a crying child you're trying to correct). But it's still laziness, and dereliction of your responsibilities as a parent.
As for stepping in yourself... I can't imagine a good time. Many parents (myself included) may fancy themselves as rational a class of beings as the next, but frequently when their parenting or (and by extension) their kids are criticised, the red mist descends. I physically wince when my 3-year old does some of the things you mention, not because I expect him to be an adult or a soulless drone of obedience, but because I can literally feel the disapproving eyes of friends and family on my back, disapproval that only seems to grow as I go to correct him. With the best will in the world, we're a sensitive bunch. Tread carefully, and whatever you do address your concerns to the parents when you're all well away from the child, and be specific about specific issues, and not general disapproval of the child itself or its upbringing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 05:42:29 PM
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 05:42:29 PM
Yes, I think laziness is a large part of it.
I'm aware that it's very easy to be judgemental when you don't have kids of your own - but to my eyes the situation is so clearly out of control, it's hard not to imagine how if I had kids, I wouldn't - couldn't, put up with such behavior.
For instance, I simply don't understand how things can deteriorate to the point where the child dictates what they will eat at all times (I know another woman who has a 3 year old that exists almost exclusively on a diet of Happy Meals!).
As for intervening in this particular case - the fact is this guy, the father, will soon be a part of my family, and frankly I'm a little concerned about how it all reflects on his character.
I'm aware that it's very easy to be judgemental when you don't have kids of your own - but to my eyes the situation is so clearly out of control, it's hard not to imagine how if I had kids, I wouldn't - couldn't, put up with such behavior.
For instance, I simply don't understand how things can deteriorate to the point where the child dictates what they will eat at all times (I know another woman who has a 3 year old that exists almost exclusively on a diet of Happy Meals!).
As for intervening in this particular case - the fact is this guy, the father, will soon be a part of my family, and frankly I'm a little concerned about how it all reflects on his character.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Old Tankie on 21 February, 2010, 05:42:49 PM
Post by: Old Tankie on 21 February, 2010, 05:42:49 PM
I agree with TB. I would tread very carefully, Radiator. Parents can be very "precious" when it comes to their young offspring. You state in your post that you are very close to the parents of the child but I can GUARANTEE that if you chastise their child you won't be "very close" any longer. Proceed with caution!!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 21 February, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
.....Spoiling your kids.
Now, I don't have any kids - I don't have a lot of experience with children, and maybe I'm old fashioned or something, but the few kids I do know are all seemingly spoiled rotten. I just think it's almost as bad as neglect - adult life is so hard to adjust to anyway, I think it borders on cruelty to bring your kid up, giving them everything they want. Surely you are just setting them up for some sort of breakdown when they are older?
I agree with the entire comment and personally i think that these parents havent got a clue the way that they kow-tow to his little Lordships every whim.Its like they are his or her little servants and they are setting the child up for a very big fall and doing long term damage to the child especially if he/she isnt being taught something as basic as consideration for others and that life doesnt revolve around them specifically.
Its immoral to spoil children full stop.
OK its difficult to talk to a parent about their conduct but at the same time they are guests in your home as you said that they are visitors and if theirs or the childs behaviour is causing you stress then you have a right to talk to them about it.Also it would be wrong to criticise the child when the child is really the victim of rather laxed parenting.The parents need bringing to heel and not the child by the sounds of it.
But then if you do that you come up against the "We can do no wrong" syndrome so you cant win either way really so saying something is probably going to be unproductive as an awful lot of people lack the ability to be objective about their own behaviour or conduct and when criticised act like little children themselves who cant take criticism.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
Radiator, if they stayed with you you should have said to the kid when it's bed time as it's your house your rules. Only let the child behave in the way you would let your own child behave, as it is your home.
As with the other stuff you should have took the piss. When his dad was putting his shoes on you should have said "Are you going to wipe his arse as well!" and things like that.
We have friends who didn't lay down the correct rules with their son and he is a menace now and he's only 10. In fact he rules their house but when he comes here he gets away with NOTHING. In fact at Sam's party last week I had him crying as he attacked me during one of his 'me, me, me' fits, when I was sitting down. He tripped and hit his head on my knee (which moved forward slightly) and cried for ages :lol: :lol: :lol:
On the other hand our Sam knows the rules and even with his autisim he knows how to behave. Yes we do have some battles now and then but we make sure he knows who is in charge. As an only child we can't spoil him as he doesn't understand the meaning of things. For Christmas he asked for chocolate and nothing else. Obviously we bought him other things ;)
Sadly this is another one of the reasons that the country is going to shit. Many children grow up with never being told NO and that is the fault of the parents.
As with the other stuff you should have took the piss. When his dad was putting his shoes on you should have said "Are you going to wipe his arse as well!" and things like that.
We have friends who didn't lay down the correct rules with their son and he is a menace now and he's only 10. In fact he rules their house but when he comes here he gets away with NOTHING. In fact at Sam's party last week I had him crying as he attacked me during one of his 'me, me, me' fits, when I was sitting down. He tripped and hit his head on my knee (which moved forward slightly) and cried for ages :lol: :lol: :lol:
On the other hand our Sam knows the rules and even with his autisim he knows how to behave. Yes we do have some battles now and then but we make sure he knows who is in charge. As an only child we can't spoil him as he doesn't understand the meaning of things. For Christmas he asked for chocolate and nothing else. Obviously we bought him other things ;)
Sadly this is another one of the reasons that the country is going to shit. Many children grow up with never being told NO and that is the fault of the parents.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 06:42:17 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 06:42:17 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
Radiator, if they stayed with you you should have said to the kid when it's bed time as it's your house your rules. Only let the child behave in the way you would let your own child behave, as it is your home.
This is excellent advice, and not just in relation to the specific problem. My little kids are lucky enough to have two full sets of grandparents, but they both run very different houses, and have equally different attitudes to children.
My mother, a childcare professional for more than 25 years, frankly spoils my son, but greatly restricts the things he can do - he's not allowed upstairs, he's not allowed climb anything high in the playground etc. - but they take him out with them all the time, to the beach or the park or the shops, or to visit friends or family. My in-laws on the other hand are perhaps overly strict and abrupt with him, but allow him free reign of the house and garden, and maybe encourage a bit more daring - but they are completely sedentary, and never leave the house with him.
All very contradictory experiences for a wee lad to process, but by applying CF's principle, it actually works fine: he's been told it's the rules of the house that count, and adapts perfectly. While I bristle at my father-in-law's stern tones, and despair at my mother's indulgences, and try to moderate both, it's a system that seldom causes real offense. What's more, the boy actually seems to value the variety, and the opportunities it presents.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
As with the other stuff you should have took the piss. When his dad was putting his shoes on you should have said "Are you going to wipe his arse as well!" and things like that.
If you can be sure that your sense of humour will be understood, this may be another good approach - but I'd be cautious about doing this kind of thing in front of the kid. Whoever's fault it is that he has to have his shoes put on for him, it's not his, not at age 7 at any rate.
If the problem wasn't so widespread you'd almost be be better taking this approach with the kid directly - a bit of uncle-like peer-pressure is a useful tool. I've often used my brother to reinforce lessons about toilet training, mealtime and exercise by asking him to gently tease his nephew in this fashion, who worships him. ('I think you're shrinking - if you want to grow up as tall as me, you're going to have to eat your beans!") .
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
You are correct Tordelback, I should have put that you should know if the humour in the arse wiping comment can be said in front of the kid or if it has to be done as a nudge to his father later on!
Sometimes as you say it is the uncle or friend who can say things to the kid to make him or her do the desired thing that the parents can't seem to get a response to.
Children ::) just little versions of us that need to be helped now and again to keep on the correct path.
Sometimes as you say it is the uncle or friend who can say things to the kid to make him or her do the desired thing that the parents can't seem to get a response to.
Children ::) just little versions of us that need to be helped now and again to keep on the correct path.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
QuoteIf the problem wasn't so widespread you'd almost be be better taking this approach with the kid directly - a bit of uncle-like peer-pressure is a useful tool. I've often used my brother to reinforce lessons about toilet training, mealtime and exercise by asking him to gently tease his nephew in this fashion, who worships him. ('I think you're shrinking - if you want to grow up as tall as me, you're going to have to eat your beans!") .
Yeah, me and my girlfriend do indulge in a bit of this - "More Toys?!?!" I exclaimed rather loudly when I saw that they'd bought him yet more stuff, or encouraging him to eat what we're eating etc. Of course, it's hard work when the kid loves chips but won't touch potato bloody wedges, let alone vegetables.
There's also the odd occasion when the parents aren't around when we subtly try to enforce our authority - turning up the volume on the TV to drown out his DS, or even just making eye contact with him, who, knowing what he is doing is not on, turns the volume down unprompted.
I don't really do anything overt, as the situation of having us all under one roof is often fraught as it is. If I were to do so, it would be to the parents, not the child.
Quoteif they stayed with you you should have said to the kid when it's bed time as it's your house your rules
Easier said than done - this time we made a point of telling them we had cleared out the spare room especially and reminded them to bring their camp bed so he could go and sleep in there. Unsurprisingly, they brought the bed, but 'forgot' the pump to inflate it - hence he slept with them in the living room yet again, guaranteeing that he would be up to all hours with us yet again.
On one of the nights, we had planned to go out for dinner, but had to abandon the plans as the boy's father said that the kid wouldn't eat any of the food there, and that we could go but he would stay in with the boy - something we obviously would not do. Without wanting to sound too much like a grumpy old man (I'm actually still quite a young guy), the thought of being taken out to a restaurant when I was that age would have been incredibly exciting! Just goes to show how times have changed, I guess!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Woah, you really do have your work cut out for you there.
I don't think kids themselves mind other adults being strict with them, or laying down the law - my Dad has a mate who used to shout at us and boss us around something shocking, and we all grew up to be immensely fond of him. Seems your problem really is that you're not getting to deal with the kid at all without being contradicted by the parents - so that probably is where you're going to have to focus your energies. I know it;s the kid's long-term welfare that concerns you and not your own comfort, but I wouldn't necessarily tackle the toy issue as a priority, since it could be seen as an 'internal' matter - the real issue seems to be the kid having no boundaries set on his behaviour, rather than his possessions. This is something that you could reasonably be expected to have an opinion on, as it directly affects you in a social setting.
However, as Old Tankie says be very, very careful - it'd be very easy to do more harm than good:
Whatever you do, don't allow your legitimate concern to be twisted into an impression that the child and his parents aren't welcome or loved by you. Be very clear on this, don't leave it to chance.
All that said, I think I was in a restaurant three times in my whole childhood and it was always a huge deal (aside: the first time I ever ordered in a restaurant was at my school leaving do - I sent the red wine back because it wasn't cold), but to be fair they can be unholily boring places for kids. I've been guilty of dreading evenings out with the kids, especially if I know they're going to stretch out long past their bedtimes and into crank-time.
I don't think kids themselves mind other adults being strict with them, or laying down the law - my Dad has a mate who used to shout at us and boss us around something shocking, and we all grew up to be immensely fond of him. Seems your problem really is that you're not getting to deal with the kid at all without being contradicted by the parents - so that probably is where you're going to have to focus your energies. I know it;s the kid's long-term welfare that concerns you and not your own comfort, but I wouldn't necessarily tackle the toy issue as a priority, since it could be seen as an 'internal' matter - the real issue seems to be the kid having no boundaries set on his behaviour, rather than his possessions. This is something that you could reasonably be expected to have an opinion on, as it directly affects you in a social setting.
However, as Old Tankie says be very, very careful - it'd be very easy to do more harm than good:
Quote from: Old Tankie on 21 February, 2010, 05:42:49 PMYou state in your post that you are very close to the parents of the child but I can GUARANTEE that if you chastise their child you won't be "very close" any longer.
Whatever you do, don't allow your legitimate concern to be twisted into an impression that the child and his parents aren't welcome or loved by you. Be very clear on this, don't leave it to chance.
All that said, I think I was in a restaurant three times in my whole childhood and it was always a huge deal (aside: the first time I ever ordered in a restaurant was at my school leaving do - I sent the red wine back because it wasn't cold), but to be fair they can be unholily boring places for kids. I've been guilty of dreading evenings out with the kids, especially if I know they're going to stretch out long past their bedtimes and into crank-time.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:18:52 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:18:52 PM
I'd just not invite them to stay again. Sounds like the parents are as much a pain in the arse as their kid. One of my sisters-in-law is such a pain we simply can't have her to stay any more. I mentioned here before how on her last visit some years ago she took her kid's sandy socks off on the bedroom carpet, leaving a stain the size of a dinner plate, and the next day gave him an unwrapped chocolate bar to eat as he walked around on our cream-coloured lounge carpet with crumbs falling everywhere (thanks to the parents on the message board who pointed out how it was actually our error in the first place for choosing a colour scheme that would show up sand and chocolate stains!).
A decade previously we had her to visit when she had just the one child. She fed him until he puked, at which point she realized that perhaps two lunches in a day were too many. She drove him around all over the countryside trying to manipulate him into making choices that involved staying out longer, ignoring the black circles around his eyes, when what he wanted was to go home and have dinner and a bath before going to bed. She also woke us up every morning at 6am talking to him downstairs in a loud stage whisper about how he must be very quiet or he'd wake up his auntie and uncle upstairs. Gee, thanks. The last straw was she hung around when it was time for her to go, dilly-dallying until her son got so bored standing around in his coat and trainers that he started walking behind the ugly vertical blinds our landlord's questionable taste in decor led him to hang in front of the french windows.
I got so angry with her a) not going, and b) not stopping her kid from doing something that came close to damaging the landlord's property, but instead wheedling for him to stop doing what he was doing and having him take no notice of her, that I ended up snapping at her, telling her she should just stop him instead of pleading with him to stop. Why should stopping be the responsibility of a three-year-old? Why give him all the power in the situation and put the onus on him to behave correctly, when he's only three? Practically there are two things she could have done. One is pick him up, thereby lifting him out of trouble. The other is bloody well go home instead of dragging it out!
A decade previously we had her to visit when she had just the one child. She fed him until he puked, at which point she realized that perhaps two lunches in a day were too many. She drove him around all over the countryside trying to manipulate him into making choices that involved staying out longer, ignoring the black circles around his eyes, when what he wanted was to go home and have dinner and a bath before going to bed. She also woke us up every morning at 6am talking to him downstairs in a loud stage whisper about how he must be very quiet or he'd wake up his auntie and uncle upstairs. Gee, thanks. The last straw was she hung around when it was time for her to go, dilly-dallying until her son got so bored standing around in his coat and trainers that he started walking behind the ugly vertical blinds our landlord's questionable taste in decor led him to hang in front of the french windows.
I got so angry with her a) not going, and b) not stopping her kid from doing something that came close to damaging the landlord's property, but instead wheedling for him to stop doing what he was doing and having him take no notice of her, that I ended up snapping at her, telling her she should just stop him instead of pleading with him to stop. Why should stopping be the responsibility of a three-year-old? Why give him all the power in the situation and put the onus on him to behave correctly, when he's only three? Practically there are two things she could have done. One is pick him up, thereby lifting him out of trouble. The other is bloody well go home instead of dragging it out!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 21 February, 2010, 11:20:46 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 21 February, 2010, 11:20:46 PM
Oops. Hope I didn't go overboard with the eating food before its been paid for issue. But I'm glad some of you owned up. Always best to get these things out in the open. ;)
I don't have kids, but I get the impression that nowadays, rather than being told what to do in no uncertain terms (as things were done in my day) kids too often seem to be 'consulted' by their parents. I often overhear parent/child interaction and being a grumpy git I mutter under my breath: "that's your kid, not your consultant, don't ask their opinion, just tell them what to do." Ok, perhaps when I was young there was a bit too much of 'children are meant to be seen and not heard' but few things are as annoying as free range children or I should say, the parents of free range children.
I don't have kids, but I get the impression that nowadays, rather than being told what to do in no uncertain terms (as things were done in my day) kids too often seem to be 'consulted' by their parents. I often overhear parent/child interaction and being a grumpy git I mutter under my breath: "that's your kid, not your consultant, don't ask their opinion, just tell them what to do." Ok, perhaps when I was young there was a bit too much of 'children are meant to be seen and not heard' but few things are as annoying as free range children or I should say, the parents of free range children.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
Nice though it is to empower children to make choices, and to watch them developing their own personality instead of imposing your own choices all the time, young children, who do not always understand the question let alone know the answer, appreciate being told once in a while instead of being asked all the time. How are they supposed to feel secure in the world they inhabit if they have to interpret it for themselves all the time?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 February, 2010, 12:07:40 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 February, 2010, 12:07:40 AM
This has been the subject of some reporting on Radio 4 this week -- some survey or other indicating that parents wanted their children to think of them as "friends" and were afraid to discipline them.
Fuck that.
The point at which I was financially independent, married and a home-owner was the point at which I sat down with my parents and spoke to them in terms that could remotely be considered as equal. Even then, I was (and still am) acutely aware of everything they had done to help me get to that point.
PARENT does not equal FRIEND. Quite the opposite. LIKE does not equal RESPECT. I genuinely don't understand why this is difficult to grasp!
Cheers
Jim
Fuck that.
The point at which I was financially independent, married and a home-owner was the point at which I sat down with my parents and spoke to them in terms that could remotely be considered as equal. Even then, I was (and still am) acutely aware of everything they had done to help me get to that point.
PARENT does not equal FRIEND. Quite the opposite. LIKE does not equal RESPECT. I genuinely don't understand why this is difficult to grasp!
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 22 February, 2010, 12:26:38 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 22 February, 2010, 12:26:38 AM
Anyone who has not conceived a child should be allowed to hit (or not hit) any child at any time. Anyone who has conceived a child can only hit their own child.
This would make everything easier.
This would make everything easier.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 22 February, 2010, 12:59:50 AM
Post by: HdE on 22 February, 2010, 12:59:50 AM
Bloody hell, man - this is brilliant:
I've never encountered that sentiment expressed so well. It's so absolutely true!
Reminds me of my ex and her two boys. She had absolutely no clue how to instruct those boys about what was right and what was wrong. No, she would spend hours explaining convoluted concepts to them that they didn't understand, but never ONCE would she tell them flat out that they had made a mistake or done something that was categorically wrong / bad. Result? Kids stare wide eyed at mum, continue as previously, and HdE gets shouted at when he tries to rectify the situation. Just because he's not their dad. Whoo!
I'm frequently amazed at how much credit modern parents give their kids. It's like they expect them to be fully functional adults. Totally unreasonable, totally stupid. It's all contributing to the world being full of well-spoken rocket scientists with dodgy morals and no common sense.
Quote from: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
Nice though it is to empower children to make choices, and to watch them developing their own personality instead of imposing your own choices all the time, young children, who do not always understand the question let alone know the answer, appreciate being told once in a while instead of being asked all the time. How are they supposed to feel secure in the world they inhabit if they have to interpret it for themselves all the time?
I've never encountered that sentiment expressed so well. It's so absolutely true!
Reminds me of my ex and her two boys. She had absolutely no clue how to instruct those boys about what was right and what was wrong. No, she would spend hours explaining convoluted concepts to them that they didn't understand, but never ONCE would she tell them flat out that they had made a mistake or done something that was categorically wrong / bad. Result? Kids stare wide eyed at mum, continue as previously, and HdE gets shouted at when he tries to rectify the situation. Just because he's not their dad. Whoo!
I'm frequently amazed at how much credit modern parents give their kids. It's like they expect them to be fully functional adults. Totally unreasonable, totally stupid. It's all contributing to the world being full of well-spoken rocket scientists with dodgy morals and no common sense.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2010, 06:10:23 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2010, 06:10:23 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 21 February, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
How are they supposed to feel secure in the world they inhabit if they have to interpret it for themselves all the time?
Well put, that man. Hw could you be so right about this and so wrong about your choice of carpet? ;)
I remember the glorious day just after his 2nd birthday when my son started taking a nap in the middle of the day - it was the day we decided that he was having a nap whether he wanted to or not. Result: happy rested child, happy rested parents.
Still, Roger's approach has merit.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 February, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 22 February, 2010, 12:26:38 AM
Anyone who has not conceived a child should be allowed to hit (or not hit) any child at any time. Anyone who has conceived a child can only hit their own child.
Your Mom.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 22 February, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 22 February, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
Absolutely agree that kids need and want to be TOLD not ASKED. As long as the rules are consistent (kids have a deeply honed sense of justice and what's "not fair") they are much happier than being constantly forced to express opinions or make decisions that they are ill equipped to.
Spoiled kids are a horror, and it's a tragedy watching it unfold from the outside, but what can you do? Some friends of mine have a four year old who refuses to eat meals but gets cheesey snacks on demand, and who throws almighty tantrums if anything doesn't go his way.
His mother has worked for many years with children who have suffered the most appalling abuse and neglect, so I think this has caused her to overcompensate - she will always make sure he is well-loved, but I think she sometimes needs to upset him more in the short term for the greater good long term, or the kid will be a real nightmare by the time he reaches his teens.
Hah, knee them in the head - excellent suggestion, I'll bear that in mind!
Spoiled kids are a horror, and it's a tragedy watching it unfold from the outside, but what can you do? Some friends of mine have a four year old who refuses to eat meals but gets cheesey snacks on demand, and who throws almighty tantrums if anything doesn't go his way.
His mother has worked for many years with children who have suffered the most appalling abuse and neglect, so I think this has caused her to overcompensate - she will always make sure he is well-loved, but I think she sometimes needs to upset him more in the short term for the greater good long term, or the kid will be a real nightmare by the time he reaches his teens.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
He tripped and hit his head on my knee (which moved forward slightly) and cried for ages
Hah, knee them in the head - excellent suggestion, I'll bear that in mind!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 22 February, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 22 February, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
I had a dream where I kneed a toddler in the head in a "Kid" Yamamoto stylee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUsF7HQ0CtY
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 February, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 February, 2010, 01:20:52 PM
What about [spoiler]crushing a child's head [/spoiler] in a Kid Miracleman kind of way?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 22 February, 2010, 01:39:09 PM
Post by: Mikey on 22 February, 2010, 01:39:09 PM
Talking about what kid's eat and always getting what they want...
I know a bloke who only eats burgers or pizzas as his main meal. No exceptions and his choices within those categories are quite conservative (ham/pepperoni pizza or cheeseburger w/no veg, just red sauce.) One Sunday, his father in law invited him and his wife 'round for dinner. The father in law had made spaghetti bolognese.
There was a stand up row and this fella ended up in tears. He walked out and has refused to go back to the house.
M.
I know a bloke who only eats burgers or pizzas as his main meal. No exceptions and his choices within those categories are quite conservative (ham/pepperoni pizza or cheeseburger w/no veg, just red sauce.) One Sunday, his father in law invited him and his wife 'round for dinner. The father in law had made spaghetti bolognese.
There was a stand up row and this fella ended up in tears. He walked out and has refused to go back to the house.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 22 February, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 22 February, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 21 February, 2010, 11:20:46 PM
Oops. Hope I didn't go overboard with the eating food before its been paid for issue. But I'm glad some of you owned up. Always best to get these things out in the open. ;)
I don't have kids, but I get the impression that nowadays, rather than being told what to do in no uncertain terms (as things were done in my day) kids too often seem to be 'consulted' by their parents. I often overhear parent/child interaction and being a grumpy git I mutter under my breath: "that's your kid, not your consultant, don't ask their opinion, just tell them what to do." Ok, perhaps when I was young there was a bit too much of 'children are meant to be seen and not heard' but few things are as annoying as free range children or I should say, the parents of free range children.
You didnt go too overboard with the eating thing.......Luckily !
Like i said before i have only done this very sporadically because juvenile or not i couldnt wait any longer to eat or drink something which no matter how ridiculous it sounds is/was in fact very true.
Your comment about free-range parents is very true as well.I came across this kind of situation last time i ate out with my mum and dad.across the other side of the room was one of these free-range parents-yummie mummy types who was sat at a table with 5 or 6 children all aged around 6 yrs old at a rough guess.I was eating and trying to have a conversation and one of the kids was banging on the table with a spoon LOUDLY while the parent or guardian of the kids just sat there totally oblivious to it.It was very distracting and i couldnt hear myself think and i came so close to going over to her table to request that the kid stopped the noise immediately >:(.
You just know that this womans attitude would be along the lines of "My little darling is just exploring and learning and needs to express his/herself !" and i would have said that her little darling needs to know and learn when it is appropriate to just STFU !!
How do these parents expect their children to know what the limits and boundries of their behaviour and actions are when they dont teach them ? Its totally stupid and irresponsible and its almost like these parents have gone to the extreme opposite of children being seen and not heard and are almost like slaves and servile to them which in my mind is completely wrong.Everything has to be so Kid-centic with them yet these types make no allowances for the needs of the adults around them.I went into the local charity shop the other day and it was like a creche with half a dozen kids/toddlers spread around the floor playing with the kids toys that were for sale like playschool and the parents just think "AAaaah look at my adorable little darlings...."
There seems to be a complete lack of balance here between the be seen and not heard attitude and the let the kids express themselves attitude which means that the parents are not training the kids to recognise the difference that there is a time and a place and this falls under the lack of discipline syndrome which is rooted in namby pamby political correctness.I used to eat out regularly from an early age and neither myself or my brother or sister ever made a racket and annoyed others in a restaraunt because we already knew when to be quiet and if we were noisy we would have been asked to be quiet or told to shut up.
I always asked a reason WHY i couldnt do something if i was told not to do it but that didnt mean that i wouldnt do it when asked if it was something new so that i was actually learning why instead of just being told NO.
The other extreme of this free range children/parent thing is when you see parents who do nothing but shout at their children and just boss them around and whack them which is excrutiating to watch at times and i find myself wondering why they bothered having children as it seems like they dont actually like children as they seem to taking out all their frustration out on them.Its not very clever to aggressively drag your child by the hand along the street while they are screaming and obviously distressed.
I dont know if its indigenous to this area but i often hear parents shouting at their children and everything has to be "NEEEOOW".
"COME HERE ! NEEEOOW !! - SIT DOWN ! NEEEOOW ! STOP DOING THAT ! NEEEOOW !!" Its like some wierd vocal/tonal inflection but they all do it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 22 February, 2010, 03:01:54 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 22 February, 2010, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 22 February, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
The other extreme of this free range children/parent thing is when you see parents who do nothing but shout at their children and just boss them around
I was greatly amused once in a crowded gift shop in the lake district. A kid was playing around, not bothering anyone or doing anything wrong, when this enormous woman bellows from the other side of the shop at full volume in a broad lancashire accent: "DON'T you BLOODY show me up in PUBLIC!". Of course, everybody turned to stare at this extraordinary outburst as they hadn't even noticed the kid before, let alone thought he was showing her up.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
QuoteIts not very clever to aggressively drag your child by the hand along the street while they are screaming and obviously distressed.
It does, however, happen. :-[
I'm not sure I agree with the use of term 'free range' kids, because this makes me think of children roaming free through the fields in a Just William fashion collecting shrapnel, poking dead things with sticks and exchanging cigarette butts with tramps - in fact the sprogs you describe are closer to 'battery farm' kids, who are constantly restricted in everything they do, but at the same time paid little or no attention. The shouting and banging has little enough to do with expression, and everything to do with the boredom of the caged animal. Show me six-year olds running about a field, a forest or beach who want anything to do with their parents, never mind demanding their attention. In the modern world there seems to be no practical division here between time spent with adults (good behaviour time), which for many of today's kids is all the time, and time spent with peers (play time) so it al merges into one ugly sea of discontent.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 22 February, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
Post by: HdE on 22 February, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
All these comments just go to prove what an all-time low parenting skills are at these days.
I frequently notice absolutely ABYSMAL parent-child communication. I sort of sympathise, because I'd be scared out of my wits if I had the responsibility of bringing up a child. We just can't expect folks to get it right all the time.
But that doesn't excuse some of the brainless exchanges I've seen.
I was in the LCS one day when a mother came in with her young son. They were ona mission to buy the kid a toy. But the child clearly didn't want to play ball. He was in a typical little-boy sulk. The mother made a token effort to keep him interested, but this soon evaporated.
I was talking to the owner of the shop when the mother (too loudly) bellowed 'Oh, well we'll go home then, and you'll have nothing, ya little d***head!'
Wow. That's beyond stupid. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that qualify as abuse?
It's just one of a few things I've witnessed that leads me to believe that we live in a society where people want to have children, but aren't so fussed with the responsibilities that accompany parenting.
I frequently notice absolutely ABYSMAL parent-child communication. I sort of sympathise, because I'd be scared out of my wits if I had the responsibility of bringing up a child. We just can't expect folks to get it right all the time.
But that doesn't excuse some of the brainless exchanges I've seen.
I was in the LCS one day when a mother came in with her young son. They were ona mission to buy the kid a toy. But the child clearly didn't want to play ball. He was in a typical little-boy sulk. The mother made a token effort to keep him interested, but this soon evaporated.
I was talking to the owner of the shop when the mother (too loudly) bellowed 'Oh, well we'll go home then, and you'll have nothing, ya little d***head!'
Wow. That's beyond stupid. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that qualify as abuse?
It's just one of a few things I've witnessed that leads me to believe that we live in a society where people want to have children, but aren't so fussed with the responsibilities that accompany parenting.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Robin Low on 22 February, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
Post by: Robin Low on 22 February, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
Quote from: HdE on 22 February, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
I was talking to the owner of the shop when the mother (too loudly) bellowed 'Oh, well we'll go home then, and you'll have nothing, ya little d***head!
A number of years ago I was on a station platform waiting for a train. A youngish mother was chatting with an older women (her own mother I assumed) while her toddler toddled around the platform unsupervised. At one point, the toddler approached the edge of the platform, but rather than rush to grab the child, she just shouted, "Get away from there, you little shit!"
I suppose she at least noticed how close he was.
Regards
Robin
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Goatilocks on 22 February, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Post by: Goatilocks on 22 February, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
My wife and I the parents of a four-and-a-half year old autistc child. On top of him being a tumultuous toddler he also has communication difficulties and temper tantrums, which can be taxing at best. We took a parenting course to help with some of his more troublesome behaviour, which worked wonders.
Though Tornado Tom is not a badly behaved child or a malicious kid we have to keep a constant eye on him, and at times one finds oneself envying parents with 'normal' children, not to mention shaking our heads at the more lazy for screaming abuse at their kids.
Though Tornado Tom is not a badly behaved child or a malicious kid we have to keep a constant eye on him, and at times one finds oneself envying parents with 'normal' children, not to mention shaking our heads at the more lazy for screaming abuse at their kids.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 22 February, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 22 February, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
One of my 'favourites' was the slack-jawed yokel in the supermarket checkout queue whose kid was playing with the tape for closing off the checkout. "Leave that alone or the lady will shout," said at least 3 times over.
::)
Way to surrender every scrap of parental authority you may just about still possess! Why appeal to the external authority of the indifferent 'lady' seated at the checkout? He's your kid, not hers; instruct him yourself! All she needed to do was say "You know how that works now; stop playing with it. I need to get past the checkout to bag my shopping."
Anyway, I've just been reading Hewlett & Martin's Tank Girl Two (Remastered), Titan Books, 2009, which I borrowed from the library. I never understood the appeal of Deadline, and I've now decided I don't understand the appeal of Hewlett & Martin's Tank Girl beyond that Penguin compilation I bought in 1990. Having read bits of Tank Girl in the Megazine, I can only conclude that Alan Martin's writing powers must have grown considerably in the past 20 years, because Tank Girl Two is moronic!
::)
Way to surrender every scrap of parental authority you may just about still possess! Why appeal to the external authority of the indifferent 'lady' seated at the checkout? He's your kid, not hers; instruct him yourself! All she needed to do was say "You know how that works now; stop playing with it. I need to get past the checkout to bag my shopping."
Anyway, I've just been reading Hewlett & Martin's Tank Girl Two (Remastered), Titan Books, 2009, which I borrowed from the library. I never understood the appeal of Deadline, and I've now decided I don't understand the appeal of Hewlett & Martin's Tank Girl beyond that Penguin compilation I bought in 1990. Having read bits of Tank Girl in the Megazine, I can only conclude that Alan Martin's writing powers must have grown considerably in the past 20 years, because Tank Girl Two is moronic!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 February, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 February, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
One of my favourites was mother bellowing out to young child:
"Sha' up an' eat your crips up!"
"Sha' up an' eat your crips up!"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
Post by: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
...Wine.
Just don't like it - never have. Just something about it makes me convulse after every sip - I thought that would be something that would go away but hasn't. I sometimes suspect the whole wine appreciation thing is a big joke that I'm not in on, because from my experience it just tastes vile.
.....Coffee.
I like coffee, have drank a lot of it in my life, I have even worked in a coffee shop, but I can't tell the difference between different blends or anything. People react in a ludicrously snobby OTT manner about instant coffee, but I can only just about barely tell the difference.
.... Expensive Hi-Fis and music systems.
This used to be a bit of a problem for me, as I used to be a Hi Fi/Home Cinema salesman, but even after studying, I still don't get it - I cannot judge sound quality at all, try as I might. I only ever notice if the sound quality is completely terrible, like badly compressed MP3s or a really cheap and nasty stereo or something. Otherwise, I genuinely can't tell the difference between a Hi Fi system that cost £300 and £20,000 or indeed why you would want to spend so much when the difference is so minimal. While I did that job I just had to blag it.
It also seemed to me to be a counter-productive thing to get into, as the more you learn, the more it makes everything sound shit, and audiophiles tend to be a tedious bunch who care about the treble and bass and all that stuff more than the actual music. I'd rather remain ignorant.
Am I just stupid? Do I just have rubbish hearing/taste buds?
Just don't like it - never have. Just something about it makes me convulse after every sip - I thought that would be something that would go away but hasn't. I sometimes suspect the whole wine appreciation thing is a big joke that I'm not in on, because from my experience it just tastes vile.
.....Coffee.
I like coffee, have drank a lot of it in my life, I have even worked in a coffee shop, but I can't tell the difference between different blends or anything. People react in a ludicrously snobby OTT manner about instant coffee, but I can only just about barely tell the difference.
.... Expensive Hi-Fis and music systems.
This used to be a bit of a problem for me, as I used to be a Hi Fi/Home Cinema salesman, but even after studying, I still don't get it - I cannot judge sound quality at all, try as I might. I only ever notice if the sound quality is completely terrible, like badly compressed MP3s or a really cheap and nasty stereo or something. Otherwise, I genuinely can't tell the difference between a Hi Fi system that cost £300 and £20,000 or indeed why you would want to spend so much when the difference is so minimal. While I did that job I just had to blag it.
It also seemed to me to be a counter-productive thing to get into, as the more you learn, the more it makes everything sound shit, and audiophiles tend to be a tedious bunch who care about the treble and bass and all that stuff more than the actual music. I'd rather remain ignorant.
Am I just stupid? Do I just have rubbish hearing/taste buds?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 February, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 24 February, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
Quote...Wine.
I like a glass or two of red wine at the weekend, but not liking it (as you seem not to) and not getting it are two different things.
Quote.....Coffee.
Nah- there is totally a lot of difference between different coffees.
Quote.... Expensive Hi-Fis and music systems.
Utterly with you on this one. I really do not see the point on spending £50 or £100 on a set of headphones. I mean, how much clearer do you need Metallica to be? You can hear the tune, you can hear the words- you don't need some (what I suspect to be) Emperor's New Clothes type device attached to your Hi-Fi that, because you spent 100s of quid on you delude yourself into thinking is making a difference.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 24 February, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 24 February, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
.....Coffee.
I like coffee, have drank a lot of it in my life, I have even worked in a coffee shop, but I can't tell the difference between different blends or anything. People react in a ludicrously snobby OTT manner about instant coffee, but I can only just about barely tell the difference.
Instant coffee and real coffee- both are hot brown liquids. There the similarly ends
Nothing enrages me more* than buying a coffee in a cafe or pub only to be served a spoon of freezedried crap in a cup of boiling water--and to be charged €2
must be a mark up of 2000%
Quote from: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
Am I just stupid?
No
Quote from: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
Do I just have rubbish hearing/taste buds?
Probably
*hyperbole for effect
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 24 February, 2010, 12:33:57 PM
Post by: Mikey on 24 February, 2010, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 February, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
Do I just have rubbish hearing/taste buds?
Yes. Yes, you do :D
Only joking! I like wine and I like coffee (But which is best? There's only one way to find out...) but some people really do get a bit excitable and dramatic about it. For my part, I could say that my taste in wine is more developed than it was (based on drinking the stuff and finding what I liked) but fecked if I'm fussy if someone offers me a glass or baulks at having red with fish or something. Same with coffee really, but there's no way I can tell any difference between types or anything. But I really like Lavazza done in a stove top pot - it's my weekend breakfast sup and it fucken rocks!
Hi Fi - I worked with a fella who was a bit of an audiophile and spent a good amount money on his kit and would update when new stuff was released etc. He wasn't a tosser about it though, and was a good man for recommending makes etc for all budgets. I'm picky about sound though I have to say and fiddle about with the settings and all that until I'm happy.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 24 February, 2010, 12:40:03 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 24 February, 2010, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 24 February, 2010, 12:33:57 PM
I worked with a fella who was a bit of an audiophile
There's a lynch mob of Daily Mail readers heading your way this very minute.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 24 February, 2010, 12:41:49 PM
Post by: Mikey on 24 February, 2010, 12:41:49 PM
B'dum tish!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 24 February, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Post by: HdE on 24 February, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
I dunno if I mentioned this before (or maybe somebody else already has) but... film critics.
Or critics full stop. I just find them intensely irritating and pointless.
Or critics full stop. I just find them intensely irritating and pointless.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 February, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 24 February, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: HdE on 24 February, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
I dunno if I mentioned this before (or maybe somebody else already has) but... film critics.
Or critics full stop. I just find them intensely irritating and pointless.
I find this a lot with broadsheet music reviews in particular.They are annoying the way that they all write fawning platitudes over who is allegedly the next best thing in music or i mean the next big thing in music because they all say so.What a pointless waste of paper and trees.Nothing but a load of useless worthless hacks who have no idea what real work is and who have never actually produced anything of any value in their entire lives.
Your best reviewer is yourself rather than some self appointed blowhard who thinks that they are some kind of arbiter of taste or that their opinion is somehow of more value simply because they get paid to write reviews.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 February, 2010, 06:31:42 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 February, 2010, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 24 February, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Your best reviewer is yourself rather than some self appointed blowhard who thinks that they are some kind of arbiter of taste or that their opinion is somehow of more value simply because they get paid to write reviews.
But I haven't time to see everything, listen to everything and read everything. I often find that finding out what Jonathan Ross or Alec Worley or the film reviewer in the The Guardian or Financial Times thinks of a film helps me make up my mind whether or not a film is worth seeing. Nancy Banks Smith and Charlie Brooker keep me informed about whether I missed anything good on TV last night or not. Alison Graham in the Radio Times helps me decide if a TV show is worth watching or not. If she hates it, it's probably worth giving it a chance; if she likes it, maybe give it a miss. Chances are she'll have totally blown away all the plot twists and given away the ending anyway.
Over the years far more films, bands, albums and books have come my way as a result of reading a review than not.
For several years I reviewed comics for Comics International. I thought my opinion was of value even though I wasn't paid for it, because I'm very familiar with the medium, I've read an awful lot of comics, starting from when I was six, so I think I'm on fairly firm ground when comparing one thing with another quality-wise, and can tell apart that which is original from that which is derivative, because there's half a chance I'll have read the thing the latter is derived from.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 24 February, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
Post by: HdE on 24 February, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 24 February, 2010, 06:31:42 PM
For several years I reviewed comics for Comics International. I thought my opinion was of value even though I wasn't paid for it, because I'm very familiar with the medium, I've read an awful lot of comics, starting from when I was six, so I think I'm on fairly firm ground when comparing one thing with another quality-wise, and can tell apart that which is original from that which is derivative, because there's half a chance I'll have read the thing the latter is derived from.
Nobody would suggest otherwise, Ush. All opinions are valid, after all.
I can't help but think that there's a huge elemetn of subjectivity, though. I mean, my last girlfriend recommended the film 'Children Of Men' to me, and spoke very enthusiastically about it - as do several other folks I know. My verdict, on seeing it, was that it was exactly the sort of dishwater dull, slackly handled, entertainment free event that gets knocked out all the time these days. I will literally leave a room if that crap is on TV.
But then I'm a huge fan of anime - an art form that some people have a near pathological, non-negotiable hatred for.
Personal taste, n'est-ce-pas?
My real issue with media critics (and this isn't aimed at you at all combatively) is that there's a real air of 'qualification' and authority that comes across in the reviews I see and hear. My first thought about movies, for example, isn't along the lines of 'Transformers 2 is rubbish because it's virtually plotless and the characterisation is slack, while the protagonists motivation is unclear' - it's more along the lines of 'Stuff blows up regularly, there's big robots in it and it looks like fun'.
Critics damage my joy with their too-serious criticisms.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
Emos. Really fucking piss me off. I came close to punching one particularly annoying one in WH Smith who seemed to enjoy having a conversation with someone at the other end of the shop.
Its kind of funny being a 19 year old whos into heavy metal these days. I mean I meet people and I say Im into metal to which said person replys "Oh yeah me too, I love My Chemical Romance". At which point I make a point of telling them how shit they are and that they should listen to Maiden or Sabbath for some real music.
Its kind of funny being a 19 year old whos into heavy metal these days. I mean I meet people and I say Im into metal to which said person replys "Oh yeah me too, I love My Chemical Romance". At which point I make a point of telling them how shit they are and that they should listen to Maiden or Sabbath for some real music.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 February, 2010, 10:58:35 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 February, 2010, 10:58:35 PM
But Transformers 2 IS shit though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 24 February, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 24 February, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
Emos. Really fucking piss me off. I came close to punching one particularly annoying one in WH Smith who seemed to enjoy having a conversation with someone at the other end of the shop.
Its kind of funny being a 19 year old whos into heavy metal these days. I mean I meet people and I say Im into metal to which said person replys "Oh yeah me too, I love My Chemical Romance". At which point I make a point of telling them how shit they are and that they should listen to Maiden or Sabbath for some real music.
in preston they sometimes take to taking over the waterstones in particular the kids section my little grl wanted to play on the tables they have out but the little shits ignored her, i did notice the shop staff were ignoring the fact that these pillocks were hanging out... >:(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 February, 2010, 11:44:53 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 February, 2010, 11:44:53 PM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
Emos. Really fucking piss me off.
Inexplicably, I have only sold one of these (http://355286.spreadshirt.co.uk/men-s-classic-t-shirt-A6559351/customize/color/2) t-shirts -- and that's the one I bought for myself. It's always much-admired when I wear it out. :-)
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 February, 2010, 12:13:24 AM
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 February, 2010, 12:13:24 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 February, 2010, 11:44:53 PMQuote from: Tim Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
Emos. Really fucking piss me off.
Inexplicably, I have only sold one of these (http://355286.spreadshirt.co.uk/men-s-classic-t-shirt-A6559351/customize/color/2) t-shirts -- and that's the one I bought for myself. It's always much-admired when I wear it out. :-)
Cheers!
Jim
I like it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 12:31:04 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 12:31:04 AM
EMOS are particularly irritating arent they ?
Its like they all copy each other yet they all think that they are individuals with their stupid floppy fringes which they have to keep out of their eyes by flicking their heads every 5 seconds like they have they have some kind of nervous twitch or tic.Get your fucking hair cut instead. Its like contrived or designer depression or self pity."I am so depressed or misunderstood" when really its all image.So what ?? I felt misunderstood or alienated aged 16 but i still knew how to enjoy myself.
Bunch of self pitying self indulgent Wimps.No time for them at all and their skater boy eyelinered pop PAP that they pass off as music.GTFO.
The most laughable thing about them is that they think that Goths are miserable when every Goth i ever knew of the old school wasnt depressive at all or at least didnt take themselves seriously.
Its like they all copy each other yet they all think that they are individuals with their stupid floppy fringes which they have to keep out of their eyes by flicking their heads every 5 seconds like they have they have some kind of nervous twitch or tic.Get your fucking hair cut instead. Its like contrived or designer depression or self pity."I am so depressed or misunderstood" when really its all image.So what ?? I felt misunderstood or alienated aged 16 but i still knew how to enjoy myself.
Bunch of self pitying self indulgent Wimps.No time for them at all and their skater boy eyelinered pop PAP that they pass off as music.GTFO.
The most laughable thing about them is that they think that Goths are miserable when every Goth i ever knew of the old school wasnt depressive at all or at least didnt take themselves seriously.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 25 February, 2010, 01:09:49 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 25 February, 2010, 01:09:49 AM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 24 February, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
they should listen to Maiden or Sabbath for some real music.
I really wouldn't want to put myself in the position of having to defend that statement. :-X
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 25 February, 2010, 01:21:03 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 25 February, 2010, 01:21:03 AM
HoU beat me to it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 25 February, 2010, 03:37:37 AM
Post by: HdE on 25 February, 2010, 03:37:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 12:31:04 AM
EMOS are particularly irritating arent they ?
Its like they all copy each other yet they all think that they are individuals...
Biggest mistake young folks make. Always has been, always will be.
The coolest guys and gals on the planet are the ones who stick two fingers up to these stupid fads, knuckle down and get on with doing their own thing.
Seriously - I live in a small town where you cannot move for goths, emos and kids who think they're Jimmy bleedin' Page just because they own a plywood guitar. We even have one local twonk (and yes, he IS a twonk) who swans about in a kilt and top hat.
I'd seriously have more respect if they ran around wearing cardboard signs saying 'KICK ME'. They set themselves up as objects of ridicule.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
..beating up on emos.
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 February, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 February, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
Quote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
Can we just agree that almost ALL teenagers and those in their early twenties are idiots?*
*As a 24-year old, I feel I'm allowed to say that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 February, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 February, 2010, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 25 February, 2010, 11:08:35 AMQuote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
Can we just agree that almost ALL teenagers and those in their early twenties are idiots?*
*As a 24-year old, I feel I'm allowed to say that.
Yes.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 25 February, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
Post by: radiator on 25 February, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
Quote..beating up on emos.
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
My thoughts exactly. I'm probably as guilty as anyone for having the odd snigger at emo fashions or music, but at the end of the day we all do things that are embarrassing when we are young.
They're harmless, they'll grow out of it, and at least they aren't the ones going round in mobs attacking people and stabbing each other.
Maybe try to be a bit more open minded and less reactionary, yeah?
Peter especially - do you like any aspect of society or popular culture that was invented after 1982?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 12:26:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: radiator on 25 February, 2010, 11:21:38 AMQuote..beating up on emos.
They're just kids who behave as badly or as well as any other kids. It's not because they're emos.
Exactly the same things you said about emos has been said about goth. It's bullshit.
My thoughts exactly. I'm probably as guilty as anyone for having the odd snigger at emo fashions or music, but at the end of the day we all do things that are embarrassing when we are young.
They're harmless, they'll grow out of it, and at least they aren't the ones going round in mobs attacking people and stabbing each other.
Maybe try to be a bit more open minded and less reactionary, yeah?
Peter especially - do you like any aspect of society or popular culture that was invented after 1982?
Apologies but the truth is that i enjoy ranting sometimes.Its very easy for me to do this but in truth the Emo kids dont actually bother me that much at all and they dont adversely affect my quality of life in any way.
I do hate EMO music [i cannot listen to it so i dont] though i have to say i just dont understand the comparison or association with Goths.I dont hear any similarity to Goth music in Emo music at all and neither do i hear any similarity to Metal music of any kind because there is no similarity and the comparison with Goth is just lazy.
You are both right though as its a juvenile subculture and they are generally harmless.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 25 February, 2010, 01:07:06 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 25 February, 2010, 01:07:06 PM
Wine: Me likey (in moderation*, obviously).
Coffee: Filter's good, but instant is fine provided it's been made by someone who knows how to do it. As a wandering IT bod I get offered coffee at semi-regular intervals through the day. Using the same ingredients, some people produce a rich, tasty bevarage, some cack-handed sods produce a thin brown liquid with a vaguely bitter aftertaste.
Audio: I recently joined the 21st century and got shut of my hi-fi stack, having realised that I play all my music via my PC/Xbox these days anyway. I've kept my good speakers, though.
Also, I accidentally brought my girlfriends earphones to work with me today, and one of the speakers is buzzing. Driving me mental! However, any reasonably decent (£10-ish) earphones will do me just fine.
Music: I'm with Tim Tailz on this. Maiden and Sabbath beat Funeral For My Chemical Fallout Boy hands down.
*Usually...
Coffee: Filter's good, but instant is fine provided it's been made by someone who knows how to do it. As a wandering IT bod I get offered coffee at semi-regular intervals through the day. Using the same ingredients, some people produce a rich, tasty bevarage, some cack-handed sods produce a thin brown liquid with a vaguely bitter aftertaste.
Audio: I recently joined the 21st century and got shut of my hi-fi stack, having realised that I play all my music via my PC/Xbox these days anyway. I've kept my good speakers, though.
Also, I accidentally brought my girlfriends earphones to work with me today, and one of the speakers is buzzing. Driving me mental! However, any reasonably decent (£10-ish) earphones will do me just fine.
Music: I'm with Tim Tailz on this. Maiden and Sabbath beat Funeral For My Chemical Fallout Boy hands down.
*Usually...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 25 February, 2010, 01:40:17 PM
Post by: radiator on 25 February, 2010, 01:40:17 PM
...Live music.
I love listening to music, but curiously I don't go to gigs. Don't get me wrong, I've been to some great gigs in my time, but nowadays, I'm just not interested at all. No matter what band, music alone is not enough of a spectacle to keep me engaged and my mind starts to wander. A lot of music I like isn't danceable but isn't heavy enough to jump around to, so everyone just stands there, nodding their heads. Dull.
The venues are generally either enormo-domes where you can barely see the band, or horrible, sweaty flea pits. Either way, as someone who is quite claustrophobic, both are very uncomfortable. Add to that the pricks in the crowd violently pushing other people or chucking cups/bottles of piss, the terrible sound quality, the stench of BO.... that's just not my idea of a good night out.
I'd rather buy the CD and go to a comedy gig or the cinema instead.
I love listening to music, but curiously I don't go to gigs. Don't get me wrong, I've been to some great gigs in my time, but nowadays, I'm just not interested at all. No matter what band, music alone is not enough of a spectacle to keep me engaged and my mind starts to wander. A lot of music I like isn't danceable but isn't heavy enough to jump around to, so everyone just stands there, nodding their heads. Dull.
The venues are generally either enormo-domes where you can barely see the band, or horrible, sweaty flea pits. Either way, as someone who is quite claustrophobic, both are very uncomfortable. Add to that the pricks in the crowd violently pushing other people or chucking cups/bottles of piss, the terrible sound quality, the stench of BO.... that's just not my idea of a good night out.
I'd rather buy the CD and go to a comedy gig or the cinema instead.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Peter - No you are right in terms of the music - emo comes from a very different place to goth music-wise.
Being a old goth I got a lot of abuse in my time so tend to be a bit defensive of other music subcultures and their right to exist...
We all love a rant - it's very soothing. :)
Being a old goth I got a lot of abuse in my time so tend to be a bit defensive of other music subcultures and their right to exist...
We all love a rant - it's very soothing. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 February, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 February, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
I enjoy going to gigs as often as I can although I havent been to once since last April.
Never understood the appeal of Mosh Pits though.
Never understood the appeal of Mosh Pits though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 25 February, 2010, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Peter - No you are right in terms of the music - emo comes from a very different place to goth music-wise.
Being a old goth I got a lot of abuse in my time so tend to be a bit defensive of other music subcultures and their right to exist...
We all love a rant - it's very soothing. :)
Life would be dull without subcultures and there arent nearly as many as there used to be if you were growing up in the 80s.They are certainly not as visible as they used to be anyway.
We should all celebrate diversity !!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 February, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 February, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
In Manchester big crowds of goths,emos and skater dudes hang out by the Urbis museum on a Saturday, and it warms my heart to see them. Okay they copy each other and I may chuckle at their ways, but compared to the vast majority of boring, short haired, sportswear-wearing kids around, I'm really glad that there are still loads who are happy to dress up stupidly and be part of a 'scene'. And it's often the fatter/spottier/uglier kids who have found acceptance, friendship or even girlfriends among their 'tribe', which they probably never would in the image-obsessed mainstream.
Gawd bless their dark little hearts I say! :D
Gawd bless their dark little hearts I say! :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 26 February, 2010, 10:45:55 AM
Post by: radiator on 26 February, 2010, 10:45:55 AM
Well said.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 26 February, 2010, 11:02:03 AM
Post by: Mikey on 26 February, 2010, 11:02:03 AM
Anyone who does not recognise the majesty of Black Sabbath clearly has no sense at all ;). I understand why people don't like Iron Maiden, but Sabbath are the business I tells ya! (Well, up until Dio joined IMO...)I can't actually beleive a signed up goth has no appreciation of the epic stupidity of their music :P
And slagging 'emos' is a bit 'it were all fields around here when I were a lad.'
Live music has provided some of the best experiences of my life. Sweaty flea pits can make the best venues; nowadays I might not be so up for the tussles of the pit but it's great to see people having a good time. I can understand if you're claustrophobic it would be a bit unpleasant...
I don't understand the appeal of festivals. They seem to be populated by twats in joker hats juggling before going back to the office on Monday.
M.
And slagging 'emos' is a bit 'it were all fields around here when I were a lad.'
Live music has provided some of the best experiences of my life. Sweaty flea pits can make the best venues; nowadays I might not be so up for the tussles of the pit but it's great to see people having a good time. I can understand if you're claustrophobic it would be a bit unpleasant...
I don't understand the appeal of festivals. They seem to be populated by twats in joker hats juggling before going back to the office on Monday.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Mikey on 26 February, 2010, 11:02:03 AM
And slagging 'emos' is a bit 'it were all fields around here when I were a lad.'
I fear for the goth scene. I've repeatedly argued on gothic forums that the seemingly-mandatory contempt for the emos amongst goths is horrifically short-sighted. I was at Whitby last April while the Gothic Weekend was on (although, ironically, I wasn't there for WGW) and I'd peg the average age of attendees as well north of thirty.
Where -- I have asked repeatedly -- are the next generation of goths going to come from, if not from the ranks of the emos? Musically, they may be a separate thing, but they're definitely in the "disaffected painting their bedroom black" demographic, and are studiously, ostentatiously shunning the mainstream, which means they're certainly adjacent to the goth constituency.
As the average age of the scene rises, the prevalence of the "Gother Than Thou" attitude which says that if you didn't see the Sisters at the Leeds Warehouse in 1981 then you're not a proper goth increases, much to the scene's detriment.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 February, 2010, 01:45:29 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 26 February, 2010, 01:45:29 PM
Haven't been by here for a while so....
Kids. Annoy the piss out of me in general. Inexplicably my brother's four are quite normal, decent and well-behaved. Presumably because they're just like my brother was when he was a boy. Makes life MUCH easier. Needlessly indulgent AND ridiculously harsh parenting is horrible and the kids' misbehaviour is always the fault of the parents not paying enough attention. SO happy not to have any.
Wine. Used to like red, but can't drink it anymore as it irritates my belly (same goes for Guinness and spirits). Never liked white, rose or the fizzy stuff. At all. I noticed the slight difference with the nicer stuff, but generally I could drink anything.
Coffee. Don't notice a difference between instant coffees apart from the really bitter shitty ones and the good ones. Ground coffees ARE quite different. For me.
Hi-Fi. I've got reasonable headphones and speakers, but am no audiophile because I fear learning how to dislike any stereo other than the most expensive models. Same for TV. I am a bit of a freak about cinema projection though - out of focus projection or out of synch sound annoys me like crazy. I'm the guy who goes and complains and bullies the management into giving me a free ticket for the second viewing.
Teenagers in general. Annoying, but I forgive it because I was annoying teenager myself. There's something about the emo look and attitude that just makes me want to punch a face (hidden under a stupid fucking haircut) repeatedly over and over and over.......
Kids. Annoy the piss out of me in general. Inexplicably my brother's four are quite normal, decent and well-behaved. Presumably because they're just like my brother was when he was a boy. Makes life MUCH easier. Needlessly indulgent AND ridiculously harsh parenting is horrible and the kids' misbehaviour is always the fault of the parents not paying enough attention. SO happy not to have any.
Wine. Used to like red, but can't drink it anymore as it irritates my belly (same goes for Guinness and spirits). Never liked white, rose or the fizzy stuff. At all. I noticed the slight difference with the nicer stuff, but generally I could drink anything.
Coffee. Don't notice a difference between instant coffees apart from the really bitter shitty ones and the good ones. Ground coffees ARE quite different. For me.
Hi-Fi. I've got reasonable headphones and speakers, but am no audiophile because I fear learning how to dislike any stereo other than the most expensive models. Same for TV. I am a bit of a freak about cinema projection though - out of focus projection or out of synch sound annoys me like crazy. I'm the guy who goes and complains and bullies the management into giving me a free ticket for the second viewing.
Teenagers in general. Annoying, but I forgive it because I was annoying teenager myself. There's something about the emo look and attitude that just makes me want to punch a face (hidden under a stupid fucking haircut) repeatedly over and over and over.......
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 26 February, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Where -- I have asked repeatedly -- are the next generation of goths going to come from, if not from the ranks of the emos?
I can just see this discussion taking place in the Great Rift Valley 2 million years ago: "Where will the next generation of Austrolopithecines come from, if not from the ranks of the Homo Habilis?" Trying to get the laudanum back in the bottle there, Jim.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 26 February, 2010, 06:21:59 PM
Post by: HdE on 26 February, 2010, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Being a old goth I got a lot of abuse in my time so tend to be a bit defensive of other music subcultures and their right to exist...
We all love a rant - it's very soothing. :)
Yup, it certainly is!
I felt compelled to reply to your post above, Staticgirl, just because I wanted to make sure there's no hard feelings about what I said.
Ultimately, while I've certainly got my entrenched opinions about things, I'd hate to think that we were all taking everybody's posts here in a spririt of deadly seriousness.
Peace, an' all that. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
I fear for the goth scene... Where -- I have asked repeatedly -- are the next generation of goths going to come from, if not from the ranks of the emos?
I wouldn't worry. I don't know that it's true the average age on the goth scene is rising. You've still got the 40+ goths hanging in there (upside-down, like a bat), but their numbers are surely not increasing (if they are, then where's the problem?). Most events I go to are attended by any number of goths in their 30s and 40s, but there's always plenty of new blood aged 19-29. Very often the 'youngsters' don't have a clue what goth started out as; they just want to listen to heavy metal, industrial, rave and futurepop and pretend it's goth because they have labret piercings, eyeliner and lifty boots on. That's fine. With their numbers and the eagerness with which they fritter away banknotes at the bar, they make the scene viable, and by and large they're very pleasant and attractive young people.
If the goth scene were to die out overnight, who cares? I gave up on it once before in the early '90s after Vision Thing seemed to sound the death knell on gothic rock. I don't know if the scene could have recovered without the likes of Jo Hampshire flogging the dead horse so enthusiastically as to start up Whitby Gothic Weekend. When I got back into the scene c.1999, it looked to me as if the scene in York couldn't have sustained itself without the return of the glow-stick goths who'd fucked off to the raves for the previous decade because it was more fun. Much as though I disdained the doof-doof-doof-doof-doof-doof-doof rhythms and gabber influences they brought with them, which I thought were diluting the 'gothness' of the goth scene, I was aware that, as with the younger element now, there would barely have been a scene to moan about without them.
If the goth scene were going to die without welcoming emo kids, I say welcome them in. If, on the other hand, the goth scene were going to die unless it started becoming a hybrid goth/emo scene, then I say let it die. It's hard enough to get to hear any goth at a goth club these days with all the competition from dance, industrial, metal and punk without emo tunes crowding the DJ's playlist even more.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 February, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 February, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 12:42:00 PMQuote from: Jim_Campbell on 26 February, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
I fear for the goth scene... Where -- I have asked repeatedly -- are the next generation of goths going to come from, if not from the ranks of the emos?
If the goth scene were going to die without welcoming emo kids, I say welcome them in. If, on the other hand, the goth scene were going to die unless it started becoming a hybrid goth/emo scene, then I say let it die. It's hard enough to get to hear any goth at a goth club these days with all the competition from dance, industrial, metal and punk without emo tunes crowding the DJ's playlist even more.
Its hard to imagine why a goth club would call itself a goth club if it doesnt actually play any goth music.It seems like the whole goth movement has been diluted and is all about image and has nothing to do with the music which is the main reason i was into it in the first place.If i went top a goth club and heard dance music i would be very disappointed but thats mainly because i dont generally like dance or rave music or more to the point i cant stand it.
From reading what HOU posted it seems like the scene as i knew it has already died unless you accept the fact that music scenes and subcultures evolve in their own way which is fine in itself but if the scene has been diluted and crossed over with other subcultures then it is no longer a goth scene in my mind and is instead a kind of catch all subculture.
Would i want to hear EMO music in a goth club ?
Not particularly and thats being polite.
Industrial music is alright in small doses and likewise Metal depending on who it is being played.
I think i agree with you but it depends which way you look at it.Was or is it a scene that was about image or music ? I guess you could say it was both but as far as i am concerned if its no longer about goth music which is why i was into it in the first place then i am no longer interested in it.Then having said that the goth scene back then had started to merge with rock music or psychedelic music because quite few bands like the Banshees who werent originally goth anyway had that sort of psychedelic image and music and the same with the Cult in and around 1985 and then there was that Doctor and The Medics/Alice in Wonderland psychedelic scene a bit after that that loosely associated with Goth so it has always been mutating and evolving with different strands so its nothing new.I went to the KitKat club a couple of times in about 1986 which was loosely described as a goth club although they played quite a lot of rock music.
so its not like the Goth scene is dead or will die but it will mutate and evolve beyond recognition.
I always thought that the Whitby goth event was for the more theatrical elements of the goth scene.
I havent finished yet but i have to go out soon so i will return with more thoughts on this subject later.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 February, 2010, 02:06:32 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 27 February, 2010, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
It's hard enough to get to hear any goth at a goth club these days with all the competition from dance, industrial, metal and punk without emo tunes crowding the DJ's playlist even more.
Hmm. Not what I meant at all. I was referring more to the fact that there are precious few alternative pubs so the goths and the punks and metallers and, yes, the emos (as soon as they can get some fake ID) all end up rubbing shoulders. If the goths were a little less like a bunch of superior bastards and a little more prepared to engage with other alternative groups, we wouldn't (as certainly appears to be the case in Nottingham) a dwindling group of old farts.
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 03:53:39 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 February, 2010, 02:06:32 PM
Hmm. Not what I meant at all. If the goths were a little less like a bunch of superior bastards and a little more prepared to engage with other alternative groups, we wouldn't [appear to be] a dwindling group of old farts.
I take your point entirely. Things are different these days. In the 1980s, goths in Brighton didn't talk to ANYONE unless they'd been formally introduced by a friend, because otherwise they would appear sociable - gregarious even - as if they were remotely interested in human contact, and that just wouldn't do. Nowadays they're a lot more amenable to being engaged in conversation by complete strangers. There's no need for all that superior shit. I tend to find that the more 'cool' someone is, and the bigger the group of friends they hang out with, the less inclined they are to give the time of day to anyone they don't already know. If emo kids want to hang out in the same places goths do, it's only stuck-up goths that would object.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 February, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 27 February, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
There was always an element of that "you are not cool enough to talk to" with Goths/Alternative types that i remember from Hastings.It was alright if you part of the clique but not much good if you werent but because Hastings was such a small place and there only being one alternative club/bar/venue [The Crypt] that was open after the pubs closed everyone knew each other and were forced to mix.Everyone who was anyone went to the same couple of pubs as well.Other alternative groups that you had then like Punks or Skinheads or those Psychobilly types that you got then all mixed together because we all shared the same pubs and bar.
There was no need for any superior shit because you only ever get that in larger towns and cities ande the smaller the place the more easy it is to get to know everyone.
There was no need for any superior shit because you only ever get that in larger towns and cities ande the smaller the place the more easy it is to get to know everyone.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 February, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
The Eagle in 1980s Brighton was an old-fashioned pub, with a blazing fireplace, where there were bikers, who kept to themselves, goths, who kept to themselves, and metallers, who also kept to themselves. That's how it was back then. Goths haven't got any more stand-offish: quite the opposite. It's just that they've started sneering at the emo kids as an inferior brand.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 27 February, 2010, 08:08:41 PM
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 27 February, 2010, 08:08:41 PM
Kill em all, I say.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 28 February, 2010, 07:57:54 AM
Post by: vzzbux on 28 February, 2010, 07:57:54 AM
I think if your in a group like EMO's and its pissing off your peers then you work is done. Isn't that the aim of any group movement. Rap Rock Metal whatever Genre your part of. Worked for me.
SMASH THE SYSTEM
V
SMASH THE SYSTEM
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 February, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
In Manchester big crowds of goths,emos and skater dudes hang out by the Urbis museum on a Saturday, and it warms my heart to see them. Okay they copy each other and I may chuckle at their ways, but compared to the vast majority of boring, short haired, sportswear-wearing kids around, I'm really glad that there are still loads who are happy to dress up stupidly and be part of a 'scene'. And it's often the fatter/spottier/uglier kids who have found acceptance, friendship or even girlfriends among their 'tribe', which they probably never would in the image-obsessed mainstream.
Gawd bless their dark little hearts I say! :D
Late as usual to this discussion, but I have to agree with everything you've said.
More generally, I've found Goths to be friendlier, kinder, more socially aware and accepting, and generally more interesting than the mainstream and other subcultures. It has more than it's fair share of eccentrics and outright weirdoes, but so what.
Obviously, being increasingly elderly and out of touch, I've no real idea what the current generation is like, but the worst I can say is that they're a noisy bunch of little buggers.
I heard of a study a few years ago that showed that Goths generally end up with better paid jobs that non-Goths.
Regards
Robin
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 11:30:08 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 11:30:08 AM
That bloody t-mobile band advert.
It crawls up my arsehole, snakes around my heart and lays little shitty eggs of death in my soul. I want all involved to die. HORRIBLY.
No. That's unfair. I want them to live, but to be scarred. HORRIBLY.
It crawls up my arsehole, snakes around my heart and lays little shitty eggs of death in my soul. I want all involved to die. HORRIBLY.
No. That's unfair. I want them to live, but to be scarred. HORRIBLY.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tanky on 28 February, 2010, 12:40:11 PM
Post by: Tanky on 28 February, 2010, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 27 February, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
There was no need for any superior shit because you only ever get that in larger towns and cities and the smaller the place the more easy it is to get to know everyone.
Very true. It's the same here in Southsea. Small place, big alternative scene. I'm still DJing for a living and on an average Friday we have goths, punks, skins, metallers, emos, crusties, bikers, indie scenesters, psychobillies, mods - you name it! Everyone gets along famously and it makes for a very interesting playlist. (Except the pub golf crawls. They need to be beaten with their own plastic golf clubs.)
Now there's a thing I don't understand the appeal of - Pub golf. Seriously, wtf?
I'll stand up for the emos though. In my line of work, they pay my wages some nights and I'd rather play to them than a lot of other crowds. Believe it or not, they always have a lovely time and I don't think I've ever finished one of those nights without several free drinks inside me!
Oh, and incidentally, I played Temple of Love last night. Consider it belatedly dedicated to all the goths on this thread :D x
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 12:50:38 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
I heard of a study a few years ago that showed that Goths generally end up with better paid jobs that non-Goths.
I don't believe it. Anecdotally I hear from fellow goths that they work in IT support, credit control, adult education, local government, laboratory science and creative endeavours, but just as many work in retail, hospitality, care homes, call centres and assembly plants. Not many of them are lawyers, corporate accountants or investment bankers. On the whole I don't think they are any more likely than average to be higher than basic rate taxpayers. If anything, less likely, given how few goths are police sergeants or senior nurses.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 28 February, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 28 February, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: HdE on 26 February, 2010, 06:21:59 PMQuote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2010, 01:47:20 PMsniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip!
Yup, it certainly is!
I felt compelled to reply to your post above, Staticgirl, just because I wanted to make sure there's no hard feelings about what I said.
Ultimately, while I've certainly got my entrenched opinions about things, I'd hate to think that we were all taking everybody's posts here in a spririt of deadly seriousness.
Peace, an' all that. :)
Oh don't worry, wasn't offended. Just going into bat for the teenies. :)
I think the goth scene changed a lot because it became European, rather than British. There's a lot more cross fertilisation between genres going on now. I'm glad personally. I think original goth died on its arse in the early 90s because the bands stopped innovating and all sounded like early Sisters. I love industrial and ebm so I'm glad that's done so well in the last 10 years.
Check out gloom-pop, btw. The NME have been making up genres again but I rather like the bands they are championing this time because they are influenced by the first generation of goth and post-punk. Could go places...
Right back to the topic....
I can't understand the appeal of:
Computer games.
Mainly because I have the coordination of a jellyfish and I want to be more passive when watching a story on a screen. I love the concept art though and have a gulity cartoon-crush on that fella from Assassins Creed.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 February, 2010, 01:43:34 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 28 February, 2010, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 11:30:08 AM
That bloody t-mobile band advert.
Oh yes. "Josh is organising a tour on Twitter". FUCK OFF! If Josh comes anywhere near me, he'll get his face punched.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 02:07:43 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 02:07:43 PM
I don't understand the appeal of naive art. At my local arts centre there's an installation by a gypsy artist who compares the treatment of gypsies in modern Europe to the persecution of witches in the early modern era. She does this through an installation composed of lots of plywood partitions, huts and tents full of scraps of fabric, 1960s dolls and other bits of cheap plastic, mannequins, illustrations from Ladybird books and photos of children from old knitting patterns. The backdrops are all scrawled over with gobbledigook and rhetorical questions about witch hunts, George Orwell, Dante (incongruously), and victimhood. The overall impression is of an artless shambles, lacking craft, and I wouldn't have known what it was about if it hadn't been for the helpful crib-sheet.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 February, 2010, 02:11:24 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 February, 2010, 02:11:24 PM
...Twitter.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
Ush, TB: Agreed in SPADES.
I feel like a phillistine (small "p", don't want to offend anyone) for not getting it, but I really don't. And Twitter seems so pointless as to be almost a joke. I already have a FB account, can't justify joining ANOTHER social network that I can't see the attraction to.
I feel like a phillistine (small "p", don't want to offend anyone) for not getting it, but I really don't. And Twitter seems so pointless as to be almost a joke. I already have a FB account, can't justify joining ANOTHER social network that I can't see the attraction to.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 February, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 February, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 11:30:08 AM
That bloody t-mobile band advert.
It crawls up my arsehole, snakes around my heart and lays little shitty eggs of death in my soul. I want all involved to die. HORRIBLY.
No. That's unfair. I want them to live, but to be scarred. HORRIBLY.
Its all rather Radio 2 and nice isnt it ?
I had best move on from this before i start ranting about what is wrong with music today.
Quote from: staticgirl on 28 February, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
Check out gloom-pop, btw. The NME have been making up genres again but I rather like the bands they are championing this time because they are influenced by the first generation of goth and post-punk. Could go places...
Can you name any of these Gloom-pop bands ? I am curious and i wouldnt mind a listen
Quote from: Tanky on 28 February, 2010, 12:40:11 PM
Very true. It's the same here in Southsea. Small place, big alternative scene. I'm still DJing for a living and on an average Friday we have goths, punks, skins, metallers, emos, crusties, bikers, indie scenesters, psychobillies, mods - you name it! Everyone gets along famously and it makes for a very interesting playlist. (Except the pub golf crawls. They need to be beaten with their own plastic golf clubs.)
Now there's a thing I don't understand the appeal of - Pub golf. Seriously, wtf?
Oh, and incidentally, I played Temple of Love last night. Consider it belatedly dedicated to all the goths on this thread :D x
That was what was good about the Crypt.It always had a varied playlist on a Friday and Saturday which included just about everything which always seemed to end with Petula Clark - Downtown.There was a 7foot model of Frankenstein in the corner by the DJ booth who was slowly decapitated with hands going missing and eventually the head which must have ended up as a prized exhibit in a Goths bedroom.
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 02:07:43 PM
I don't understand the appeal of naive art. At my local arts centre there's an installation by a gypsy artist who compares the treatment of gypsies in modern Europe to the persecution of witches in the early modern era. She does this through an installation composed of lots of plywood partitions, huts and tents full of scraps of fabric, 1960s dolls and other bits of cheap plastic, mannequins, illustrations from Ladybird books and photos of children from old knitting patterns. The backdrops are all scrawled over with gobbledigook and rhetorical questions about witch hunts, George Orwell, Dante (incongruously), and victimhood. The overall impression is of an artless shambles, lacking craft, and I wouldn't have known what it was about if it hadn't been for the helpful crib-sheet.
That doesnt sound like the kind of Naive or folk art that i have seen.I like folk/naive art in the traditional sense if its paintings and furniture and ceramics and it often sells for big money if its 19th century or older.There used to be an antique shop that specialised in naive art in Tunbridge Wells.I have one or two pieces of ceramics that are spongeware and one is a cider mug.I dug up a sussexware harvest flagon once as well.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 12:50:38 PMQuote from: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
I heard of a study a few years ago that showed that Goths generally end up with better paid jobs that non-Goths.
I don't believe it. Anecdotally I hear from fellow goths that they work in IT support, credit control, adult education, local government, laboratory science and creative endeavours, but just as many work in retail, hospitality, care homes, call centres and assembly plants. Not many of them are lawyers, corporate accountants or investment bankers. On the whole I don't think they are any more likely than average to be higher than basic rate taxpayers. If anything, less likely, given how few goths are police sergeants or senior nurses.
The first thing you should remember is that I'm almost certainly misrepresenting the conclusions of this study, which, like the average journalist, I didn't actually read - looking back at what I wrote it sounds like I'm saying that Goths end up in the highest paying jobs. I suspect the actual conclusions were more along the lines of, 'Parents: don't worry about about your oddly dressed offspring - they are actually quite bright, sociable, get a half decent education and end up doing better than a significant portion of their less imaginative and less thoughtful contemporaries who are more into Kylie.'
Regards
Robin
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 02:51:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 02:51:47 PM
Never quite got the idea of being on a scene. I like visitiing gigs, going to clubs and all kinds of music - a spot of goth/punk/post punk/ebm/industrial/metal/dance/future pop and other on-topic-drift genres, but loads of other stuff. I have a particular fetish for northern soul and funk at the moment. Could never feel like I wanted to limit my music to just one genre or era.
Wow, that's a post on BOTH topics.
Wow, that's a post on BOTH topics.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 28 February, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
That doesnt sound like the kind of Naive or folk art that i have seen.I like folk/naive art in the traditional sense if its paintings and furniture and ceramics and it often sells for big money if its 19th century or older.
I see what you mean. I didn't mean in the sense of art done by non-artists; I mean the sort of art that's done deliberately, intended as art, by people who have never formally learnt a technique or given a thought to theory. People who just announce 'I'm an artist' and start scrunching up balls of newspaper and slopping paint about. I had a wander around the Tate in St. Ives once. Some of the untutored daubings by very collectable local artists (naive in the 'proper' sense) are quite depressing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
Quote from: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
I suspect the actual conclusions were more along the lines of, 'Parents: don't worry about about your oddly dressed offspring - they are actually quite bright, sociable, get a half decent education and end up doing better than a significant portion of their less imaginative and less thoughtful contemporaries who are more into Kylie.'
I found the report you were thinking of. There was an article in the Independent in 2006 about Dunja Brill, who was writing her PhD thesis on goths. I don't think she did a statistical survey; more likely she was doing the sort of ethnographic study where you get hold of a bunch of people to interview and then you snowball your sample, getting them to introduce you to their friends and interviewing them too. As such, it all sounds very anecdotal. Her conclusions, which appear sound, can be summed up as "goths value education, they are not especially prone to dropping out of study, and as such they have the same chance of a stab at a professional occupation as anybody else."
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/dont-mock-goths-futures-bright-for-the-men-and-women-in-black-470765.html
Incidentally, I wouldn't knock anyone for being more into Kylie. Nothing wrong with that! I think being remotely interested in the doings of Katie Price and Cheryl Cole are more reliable predictors of under-achievement.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 03:48:03 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 03:48:03 PM
Precisely.
Non-achievers tend to obsess about OTHER non-achievers. The thicker the better so the idiot in question isn't made to feel stupid (i.e. confronted with reality).
Non-achievers tend to obsess about OTHER non-achievers. The thicker the better so the idiot in question isn't made to feel stupid (i.e. confronted with reality).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 February, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 28 February, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
I see what you mean. I didn't mean in the sense of art done by non-artists; I mean the sort of art that's done deliberately, intended as art, by people who have never formally learnt a technique or given a thought to theory. People who just announce 'I'm an artist' and start scrunching up balls of newspaper and slopping paint about. I had a wander around the Tate in St. Ives once. Some of the untutored daubings by very collectable local artists (naive in the 'proper' sense) are quite depressing.
I see what you mean as well.I went past the Phoenix Gallery [Brighton] yesterday in a car but i noticed the window displays and it looked like the sort of thing you would see in a primary school or a playgroup as it looked like the result of childs activity class.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 28 February, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 28 February, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
Ush, TB: Agreed in SPADES.
I feel like a phillistine (small "p", don't want to offend anyone) for not getting it, but I really don't. And Twitter seems so pointless as to be almost a joke. I already have a FB account, can't justify joining ANOTHER social network that I can't see the attraction to.
Most people's tweets consist of nothing more informative than 'DONE A POO!!! LOOOOOOL!!!!' - that's a cultural high point right there...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 07:53:05 PM
Post by: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
I found the report you were thinking of.
Out of curiosity, how did you track it down? I had a brief google, but quickly gave up.
QuoteHer conclusions, which appear sound, can be summed up as "goths value education, they are not especially prone to dropping out of study, and as such they have the same chance of a stab at a professional occupation as anybody else."
Fair enough. Just goes to show how important it is to look at the actual source.
QuoteIncidentally, I wouldn't knock anyone for being more into Kylie. Nothing wrong with that! I think being remotely interested in the doings of Katie Price and Cheryl Cole are more reliable predictors of under-achievement.
Kylie was just the first bit of bland tat that sprang to mind, but I'm happy to concede to your alternatives.
Regards
Robin
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: Robin Low on 28 February, 2010, 07:53:05 PM
Out of curiosity, how did you track it down? I had a brief google, but quickly gave up
My google search was 'goths get good jobs.' That simple! :lol:
QuoteKylie was just the first bit of bland tat that sprang to mind, but I'm happy to concede to your alternatives.
Danielle Lloyd sprung to mind the moment I'd settled on Cheryl Cole. ::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 28 February, 2010, 08:00:48 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 28 February, 2010, 08:00:48 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Danielle Lloyd sprung to mind the moment I'd settled on Cheryl Tweedy. ::)
Fixed that for you. Don't you read any gossip mags? ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:01:48 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:01:48 PM
I'd only gotten used to calling her Cheryl Cole.
Can I just say "the chav in a posh dress off x factor?" please. Everyone'll know who I mean.
Can I just say "the chav in a posh dress off x factor?" please. Everyone'll know who I mean.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Monarch on 28 February, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
Post by: The Monarch on 28 February, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
"The chav in the posh dress from the x factor who can't sing live"
sounds much better
sounds much better
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
I know someone who worked in the studio they recorded their first album in. The amount of auto tune on EACH VOCAL TRACK is disgusting. Apparently it was very much needed. So she can barely sing in a studio either.
Hence her dislike of doing it live. Although these days autotune tech is used in live performances too.
Hence her dislike of doing it live. Although these days autotune tech is used in live performances too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Monarch on 28 February, 2010, 08:23:43 PM
Post by: The Monarch on 28 February, 2010, 08:23:43 PM
It sickens me it really does
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:28:58 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:28:58 PM
Just because most people have voices and you've got a bit of technique, passion or a pleasing tone it DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN SING. Pitch. It takes work, but pays dividends. And those technologies can be imperfect. For example, while singing live Cheryl would be unable to improvise or deviate at ALL from a very pinned-down performance plan because otherwise the person playing the auto tune will be dragging her into the pitch he THINKS she's going for, and the nearer you are, the better it works.
Apart from anything else it really ought to be a matter of pride. YET ANOTHER THREAD-DRIFT I've precided over. Hurray! Go me. Apologies.
Apart from anything else it really ought to be a matter of pride. YET ANOTHER THREAD-DRIFT I've precided over. Hurray! Go me. Apologies.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 28 February, 2010, 10:08:20 PM
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 28 February, 2010, 10:08:20 PM
I really hate it when people mime on stage. I certainly wouldnt go to a gig and expect to see a band mime.
If you cant play live then whats the point.
If you cant play live then whats the point.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Cthulouis on 28 February, 2010, 10:44:12 PM
Post by: Cthulouis on 28 February, 2010, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 28 February, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
you get hold of a bunch of people to interview and then you snowball your sample
Hur hur hur.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 10:47:20 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 10:47:20 PM
Tried that in the GUM clinic the other day. Got arrested.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 February, 2010, 11:22:42 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 February, 2010, 11:22:42 PM
It's perfectly presentable pop that Girls Aloud give to us. As far as I know, you don't actually have to be a brilliant singer for that. As a package lacking in some departments and overflowing in others, I like them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Anyone going to see Girls Aloud or Britney for the singing is, I fear, missing the point somewhat.
And no one I know on Twitter just posts drivel about going to the toilet- that's just a lazy, and if I may say, critisism.
And no one I know on Twitter just posts drivel about going to the toilet- that's just a lazy, and if I may say, critisism.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Anyone going to see Girls Aloud or Britney for the singing is, I fear, missing the point somewhat.
Quite right - it's all about young women in lingerie!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 01 March, 2010, 10:32:18 AM
Post by: wild-seven on 01 March, 2010, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:08:18 AMQuote from: His Lordship rac on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Anyone going to see Girls Aloud or Britney for the singing is, I fear, missing the point somewhat.
Quite right - it's all about young women in lingerie!
You forgot the bending over ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
Quote from: wild-seven on 01 March, 2010, 10:32:18 AMQuote from: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:08:18 AMQuote from: His Lordship rac on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Anyone going to see Girls Aloud or Britney for the singing is, I fear, missing the point somewhat.
Quite right - it's all about young women in lingerie!
You forgot the bending over ;)
Oh no, trust me, I didn't! Huuuurrrrnnnnnn!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 March, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 March, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
DDD goes all Mek-Quake.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tanky on 01 March, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
Post by: Tanky on 01 March, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 28 February, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
... A lot of hate for autotune...
OK, so i paraphrased but I'm 100% with you there. This has been kicking around for a while and shows just how much you can warp things with autotune. It's pretty good actually, made me chuckle :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-v3jh-Cco
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 March, 2010, 11:05:22 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 March, 2010, 11:05:22 AM
Ha. Like it.
In it's place it can be a useful tool, to stop endless studio hours being lost in pursuing pitch and getting a performance on tape. I just loathe the over-reliance on it.
In it's place it can be a useful tool, to stop endless studio hours being lost in pursuing pitch and getting a performance on tape. I just loathe the over-reliance on it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 01 March, 2010, 01:22:18 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 01 March, 2010, 01:22:18 PM
Gloom-pop
My favourite:
ulterior (http://www.myspace.com/electricityisblood)
The one being touted by the press:
R o m a n c e (http://www.myspace.com/isthisromance)
Others - white rose movement (http://www.myspace.com/whiterosemovement)
White Lies (http://www.myspace.com/whitelies)
Not many bands because it's all made up by NME.
And yes, far too much auto-tune being used in pop at the moment. Commercial radio sounds horrible.
My favourite:
ulterior (http://www.myspace.com/electricityisblood)
The one being touted by the press:
R o m a n c e (http://www.myspace.com/isthisromance)
Others - white rose movement (http://www.myspace.com/whiterosemovement)
White Lies (http://www.myspace.com/whitelies)
Not many bands because it's all made up by NME.
And yes, far too much auto-tune being used in pop at the moment. Commercial radio sounds horrible.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 March, 2010, 02:39:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 March, 2010, 02:39:19 PM
Its not just autotune thats the problem as entire songs are written and generated using computer programmes and formulas so the majority of pop music is manufactured and synthetic in a very real sense in how its composed.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2010, 02:41:39 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2010, 02:41:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 01 March, 2010, 02:39:19 PM
Its not just autotune thats the problem as entire songs are written and generated using computer programmes and formulas so the majority of pop music is manufactured and synthetic in a very real sense in how its composed.
Hurry down Doomsday, the bugs are taking over!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 01 March, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
Post by: HdE on 01 March, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 01 March, 2010, 11:05:22 AM
Ha. Like it.
In it's place it can be a useful tool, to stop endless studio hours being lost in pursuing pitch and getting a performance on tape. I just loathe the over-reliance on it.
[sings] do you belieeeeve in love after lo-oo-oove...
:lol:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 01 March, 2010, 09:52:08 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 01 March, 2010, 09:52:08 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 March, 2010, 10:08:18 AMQuote from: His Lordship rac on 01 March, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Anyone going to see Girls Aloud or Britney for the singing is, I fear, missing the point somewhat.
Quite right - it's all about young women in lingerie!
I've got no problem with vacuous pop - got to have something to tap your toes to and hum in the shower. She can go on doing that as far as I'm concerned, or just pack it in and sit at home counting her money, which is what I'd do in her place. I just wish people weren't so apparently fascinated by her public-domestic soap opera, her partner's text messages and adultery, how skinny she is, how she starves herself and consumes only mint tea, her handbags, her shoes, her hair, her make-up and how much of her superfluous flesh is airbrushed out of photographs. None of that makes her interesting. In fact, nothing does.
I'm sure Cheryl Twee-oley will go down a storm at the V Festival. Not.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 March, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 March, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 01 March, 2010, 09:52:08 PM
I just wish people weren't so apparently fascinated by her public-domestic soap opera, her partner's text messages and adultery, how skinny she is, how she starves herself and consumes only mint tea, her handbags, her shoes, her hair, her make-up and how much of her superfluous flesh is airbrushed out of photographs. None of that makes her interesting. In fact, nothing does.
I'm sure Cheryl Twee-oley will go down a storm at the V Festival. Not.
Its the junk dumbed down media that keeps covering these vacuous non-entities as if they are important and its newsworthy so they are as much to blame as the dumbed down pea brains that lap it all up instead of paying attention to things that matter.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 02 March, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 02 March, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
yeah.. like dinosaurs. They matter. Why can't we have more news reports about dinosaurs!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 March, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 March, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
because they don't do enough bending over in lingerie, obviously!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 02 March, 2010, 01:26:23 PM
Post by: Mikey on 02 March, 2010, 01:26:23 PM
Maybe round your way they don't, but I just had me a peek at a fiiiine specimen, ye*ahem*dig?
M.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 01:27:18 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 01:27:18 PM
Dinosaurs in lingerie bending over.....
SUrely SOMEONE is going to do something for the "Does my ART look big in this" thread?
SUrely SOMEONE is going to do something for the "Does my ART look big in this" thread?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 01:33:58 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 02 March, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
because they don't do enough bending over in lingerie, obviously!
Squatting good enough for you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
That looks pretty dinosaurish to me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 March, 2010, 07:20:07 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 March, 2010, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
That looks pretty dinosaurish to me.
Ahhhh, I'm so glad you were there to explain that one to me, Mike. My mind had already moved on from dinosaurs. Seeing that pic my first reaction was "what's Tordelback playing at? I don't want to see that!" My second thought was "Sian Philips is looking good for 76."
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 07:23:32 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 07:23:32 PM
If she did the whole "my hands have been grafted to my chest" thing she'd be really convincing. Leathery, scaley skin and a stench of rotten meat.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 March, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 March, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 01:33:58 PMQuote from: Dandontdare on 02 March, 2010, 01:09:17 PM
because they don't do enough bending over in lingerie, obviously!
Squatting good enough for you?
Madge love put it away, I don't want to see if your bat-cave is occupied...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
Bat-cave? Ha ha!
I'm now imagining a giant penny, a dinosaur and a batmobile in there.....
I'm now imagining a giant penny, a dinosaur and a batmobile in there.....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
I dread to think where the secret button for the Batpoles is located.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 02 March, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
Post by: Mikey on 02 March, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
I think she wants you to 'get into the groove' although Wild is suggesting it's more a grove nowadays...
What?
M.
What?
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
Madge's batcave is fractal - inside the batcave, instead of a giant dinosaur, is another leathery dino-like Madge and so on to infinity.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 02 March, 2010, 09:51:49 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 02 March, 2010, 09:51:49 PM
I'm half expecting her guts to fall out in that picture.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 02 March, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 02 March, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
Clearly you have no faith in the embalmer's art, you doubting Thomas!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 09:56:20 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 09:56:20 PM
Rapidly changing the subject from Madminge...
...psychic mediums. Okay, that's not fair, obviously I understand the appeal of mediums for the distraught bereaved, what I don't understand is the appeal of letting them walk about unimprisoned. There's a medium stage show on TV at the moment, and everytime i flick past it I just want to kick their lying fucking heads in. It's fraud, the most evil manipulative fraud imaginable. They should be in jail. It's just that simple.
...psychic mediums. Okay, that's not fair, obviously I understand the appeal of mediums for the distraught bereaved, what I don't understand is the appeal of letting them walk about unimprisoned. There's a medium stage show on TV at the moment, and everytime i flick past it I just want to kick their lying fucking heads in. It's fraud, the most evil manipulative fraud imaginable. They should be in jail. It's just that simple.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:59:03 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 02 March, 2010, 09:59:03 PM
Madge is hugely popular on the scheiße essen circuit thanks to that image...
Yeah, I think mediums are nasty and cruel preying on the weak and distraught. I couldn't care less if they're not being paid, it's vile and evil.
Yeah, I think mediums are nasty and cruel preying on the weak and distraught. I couldn't care less if they're not being paid, it's vile and evil.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Goatilocks on 02 March, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
Post by: Goatilocks on 02 March, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
"Is there a John in the room ..?"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 02 March, 2010, 10:20:11 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 02 March, 2010, 10:20:11 PM
I think Charlie Brooker's description of psychics as 'grief-raping bastards' is about right
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 03 March, 2010, 11:12:36 AM
Post by: Mikey on 03 March, 2010, 11:12:36 AM
Agreed - and their insitence on their 'special relationship' to a spirit guide. I've a sprit guide as well, particularly on the week ends with a beer or two.
M.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 03 March, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 03 March, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 02 March, 2010, 09:56:20 PM
Rapidly changing the subject from Madminge...
...psychic mediums. Okay, that's not fair, obviously I understand the appeal of mediums for the distraught bereaved, what I don't understand is the appeal of letting them walk about unimprisoned. There's a medium stage show on TV at the moment, and everytime i flick past it I just want to kick their lying fucking heads in. It's fraud, the most evil manipulative fraud imaginable. They should be in jail. It's just that simple.
Yup. One of the few things that can move me to genuine anger is seeing these lying fucking cunts plying their stinking trade in fleecing the emotionally fragile.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Proudhuff on 03 March, 2010, 02:07:51 PM
Post by: Proudhuff on 03 March, 2010, 02:07:51 PM
that's one of the fun things of watching The Mentalist as he discribes all their wee tricks or takes some Charlatan down a peg or too...
and leave Madge alone that will be you one day
and leave Madge alone that will be you one day
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 March, 2010, 02:26:55 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 March, 2010, 02:26:55 PM
I will NOT resemble Madge. EVER. Michael Winner maybe. Peter Stringfellow, perhaps. But, short of forced gender reassignment, never Madge.
Forced Gender Reassignment? There's a Dredd story in there somewhere....
Forced Gender Reassignment? There's a Dredd story in there somewhere....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 March, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 March, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
On the Horror Channel they used to have 'Goodmorning Psychic.'
I kid you not.
I kid you not.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 March, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 March, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: Goatilocks on 02 March, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
"Is there a John in the room ..?"
Its laughable how they try to prompt answers from those that they are mainipulating and exploiting.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 March, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 March, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: Goatilocks on 02 March, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
"Is there a John in the room ..?"
Yes!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 01:08:36 PM
Post by: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 01:08:36 PM
Simon and Garfunkel.
These pair have caused quite abit of grief chez Mikey. I just can't stand the whiney, safe fucking pretension of the music. I can't help but put it into a context where if you had the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Bob Dylan and Black Sabbath - why the fuck would you be drawn to these tossers?
Mrs Mikey loves them ::)
M
These pair have caused quite abit of grief chez Mikey. I just can't stand the whiney, safe fucking pretension of the music. I can't help but put it into a context where if you had the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Bob Dylan and Black Sabbath - why the fuck would you be drawn to these tossers?
Mrs Mikey loves them ::)
M
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 March, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 March, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 01:08:36 PM
Simon and Garfunkel.
These pair have caused quite abit of grief chez Mikey. I just can't stand the whiney, safe fucking pretension of the music. I can't help but put it into a context where if you had the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Bob Dylan and Black Sabbath - why the fuck would you be drawn to these tossers?
Mrs Mikey loves them ::)
M
Mmmm... Art Garfunkel is right up himself, but I do think that Paul Simon may be a genius.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 March, 2010, 01:53:47 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 March, 2010, 01:53:47 PM
I just heard a track by Mumford and Sons.
WTF is all that about ?
Dreadful.
WTF is all that about ?
Dreadful.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 02:25:16 PM
Post by: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 02:25:16 PM
QuotePaul Simon may be a genius.
>:(
I hate him the most!
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 March, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 March, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 02:25:16 PMQuotePaul Simon may be a genius.
>:(
I hate him the most!
M.
Heh! Fair enough- doesn't stop the genius, though!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 March, 2010, 05:33:20 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 14 March, 2010, 05:33:20 PM
Simon & Garfunkel are boring as hell. Dull, dull music. Yeah, there's certainly ability there but not enough to counteract my instinctive dislike of the noise they make.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 14 March, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
Post by: nev on 14 March, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 03 November, 2009, 04:33:12 PM
Using text speak when you're typing a message ON A COMPUTER; it's unforgivable on a phone as even the cheapest have T9 or predictive text, but when you're posting on a chum's Facebook wall? Vomit! I know of people who have A-levels in English who do this - please stop you look like a total arse
I now have to stop myself from correcting people as I am being perceived as more of a bastard than usual by attempting to rectify their mistakes.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 14 March, 2010, 07:02:18 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 14 March, 2010, 07:02:18 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 03 March, 2010, 03:11:47 PMQuote from: Goatilocks on 02 March, 2010, 10:07:38 PM
"Is there a John in the room ..?"
Yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h_Lvuh9t5w&feature=related
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 March, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 14 March, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
I like Simon and Garfunkel but mostly selected tracks rather than entire albums.
I always find this track to be strangely moving because of the contrast of the music and the lyrics offset against the litany of misery and negativity and war in the news report in the background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgYFXCUEL4Y
I always find this track to be strangely moving because of the contrast of the music and the lyrics offset against the litany of misery and negativity and war in the news report in the background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgYFXCUEL4Y
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 15 March, 2010, 10:09:10 AM
Post by: Mikey on 15 March, 2010, 10:09:10 AM
There are noexceptions to my rule on the issue!
I present a (possibly paraphrased) quote from the inestimable Shane Magowan.
"I find songs floating about in the air - and it's my job to catch them before some fucker like Paul Simon gets them."
Haw!
M.
I present a (possibly paraphrased) quote from the inestimable Shane Magowan.
"I find songs floating about in the air - and it's my job to catch them before some fucker like Paul Simon gets them."
Haw!
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 15 March, 2010, 10:57:37 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 15 March, 2010, 10:57:37 AM
Quote from: Mikey on 14 March, 2010, 01:08:36 PM
Simon and Garfunkel.
These pair have caused quite abit of grief chez Mikey. I just can't stand the whiney, safe fucking pretension of the music. I can't help but put it into a context where if you had the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Bob Dylan and Black Sabbath - why the fuck would you be drawn to these tossers?
Mrs Mikey loves them ::)
M
I'm with Mrs Mikey on this one :) I grew up listening to them as my Dad had all their albums- went through a phase of hating them then rediscovered them.
Paul Simon's version of Anji is amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN2sWrr6l80
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 16 March, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 16 March, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
Shane McGowan - genius.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 19 March, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
Post by: Mikey on 19 March, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
Poetry.
I just don't get it. And before there are cries of 'you're reading the wrong poems', I have tried and sort of enjoyed some, but don't get that connection others seem to. I've even been to readings, which successfully put me off some poets I thought I enjoyed. I think you need a certain type of brain or something, or some kind of primer on how to approach it as mostly is seems obscure and a bit smart arse to me.
Mrs Mikey loves poetry ::)
M.
I just don't get it. And before there are cries of 'you're reading the wrong poems', I have tried and sort of enjoyed some, but don't get that connection others seem to. I've even been to readings, which successfully put me off some poets I thought I enjoyed. I think you need a certain type of brain or something, or some kind of primer on how to approach it as mostly is seems obscure and a bit smart arse to me.
Mrs Mikey loves poetry ::)
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 March, 2010, 01:12:19 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 March, 2010, 01:12:19 PM
Most people ignore most poetry bcause most poetry ignores most people.
(I think that was a funny poet, John Hegley or Henry Normal, that said that).
(I think that was a funny poet, John Hegley or Henry Normal, that said that).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 March, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 March, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
I understand the appeal of poetry, but I can't often be arsed to make the effort.
I don't understand the appeal of Love and Rockets.
I don't understand the appeal of Love and Rockets.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 March, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 March, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: Mikey on 19 March, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
Poetry.
I just don't get it. And before there are cries of 'you're reading the wrong poems', I have tried and sort of enjoyed some, but don't get that connection others seem to. I've even been to readings, which successfully put me off some poets I thought I enjoyed. I think you need a certain type of brain or something, or some kind of primer on how to approach it as mostly is seems obscure and a bit smart arse to me.
Mrs Mikey loves poetry ::)
M.
It definitely needs some training or guidance to appreciate poetry, at least initially. I'm so glad I studied English, as I was forced to read, and taught to appreciate, loads of poetry that I would never in a million years have read otherwise. Not something I'd generally read for pleasure these days, but I still keep loads of my old uni books on my shelves, just to snobbilly prove my intellectual credentials and give some counter-balance to the shelves full of comics and graphic novels!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 March, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 March, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
QuoteIt definitely needs some training or guidance to appreciate poetry, at least initially. I'm so glad I studied English, as I was forced to read, and taught to appreciate, loads of poetry that I would never in a million years have read otherwise.
That's a damned good point.
I would say I'm another who doesn't get poetry, and now I think about it, the only poems I do get are ones I studied in school... coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 March, 2010, 01:22:38 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 19 March, 2010, 01:22:38 PM
My cock. Women love it and can't stop stroking it and commenting on how much nicer it is now it's long.
Did I say cock? I meant hair.
Did I say cock? I meant hair.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 19 March, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 19 March, 2010, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 19 March, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
I don't understand the appeal of Love and Rockets.
Comic or band?
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 01:33:04 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 01:33:04 PM
I also have a problem with poetry- although I love something like Ogden Nash with its insanely clever word acrobatics
One of the worst experiences in life is when a friend or acquaintance demands you read their poetry and then asks for you opinion...shudder
Theatre is another thing I juts don't get- I just can't do the whole "suspension of disbelief" thing. My loss I know
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 19 March, 2010, 01:59:52 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 19 March, 2010, 01:59:52 PM
I'm studying Elizabethan poetry at the moment. Not intensely its my own curiosity. Seems, a lot of poetry was for the monarch in those days and it was a period when the arts were in transition from the celebration of the divine to the celebration of the human condition. For me this is most interesting. But this is only the English evolution of poetry on the most recorded scale.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 March, 2010, 02:03:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 March, 2010, 02:03:19 PM
I dont understand the appeal of The Beatles.I just dont get what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 19 March, 2010, 03:17:16 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 19 March, 2010, 03:17:16 PM
... Harry Potter.
Books or Films. I mean, what is the appeal? It's been done before, and so much better.
"But it gets children reading"
Awesome, but any book with millions of pounds worth of WB advertising would do the same. Get them reading something that doesn't read like it was written in crayon.
OK so I've only read the first book and seen the first film but that was hours of my life stolen I'll never get back. I could have been doing something productive like wanking or burning hair. They didn't inspire me to read / watch any more of them.
Books or Films. I mean, what is the appeal? It's been done before, and so much better.
"But it gets children reading"
Awesome, but any book with millions of pounds worth of WB advertising would do the same. Get them reading something that doesn't read like it was written in crayon.
OK so I've only read the first book and seen the first film but that was hours of my life stolen I'll never get back. I could have been doing something productive like wanking or burning hair. They didn't inspire me to read / watch any more of them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 March, 2010, 03:43:10 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 March, 2010, 03:43:10 PM
QuoteAwesome, but any book with millions of pounds worth of WB advertising would do the same. Get them reading something that doesn't read like it was written in crayon.
I think that's unfair. The book were already a huge hit before the movies were being made.
For my money, I think they are fantastic. Certainly the later ones could have benefited from a stricter editor, but they're a hell of a good read.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 19 March, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 19 March, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
Don't fight my prejudice with logic. They still smell of poo and wee.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 06:30:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 06:30:36 PM
Poetry, for the most part, doesn't interest me - but the stuff I've STUDIED I have found to fall into two camps - the enjoyable stuff that SAYS something and the rest. So, much like most other art forms then - good, bad and mostly indifferent. For the most part I tend NOT to get it. But then if I had tucked in and studied a given piece, who knows.
Beatles are over-rated, but they're still very good. My mother had an un-natural dislike of them, you could almost hear the bile rise in her throat when they were heard, so it wasn't until I moved out that actually came to appreciate them. A hell of a body of work for a comparitively short period. I prefer the later stuff personally.
Further to the Beatles topic I'd simply add that a LOT of what was important and new about them WASN'T that new, but clever and well-judged repackaging - like the Sex Pistols would do later. Other aspects of their achievement has been put into the shade simply because so many other people have populated the territory they discovered/rediscovered/made-over.
Beatles are over-rated, but they're still very good. My mother had an un-natural dislike of them, you could almost hear the bile rise in her throat when they were heard, so it wasn't until I moved out that actually came to appreciate them. A hell of a body of work for a comparitively short period. I prefer the later stuff personally.
Further to the Beatles topic I'd simply add that a LOT of what was important and new about them WASN'T that new, but clever and well-judged repackaging - like the Sex Pistols would do later. Other aspects of their achievement has been put into the shade simply because so many other people have populated the territory they discovered/rediscovered/made-over.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
I found that as I got better as a musician I finally got what all the fuss is about the Beatles- I always liked them, having grown up listening to them, but now I appreciate just how good they were at songwriting, structure, melody all that jazz.
Most of my mates can't stand them though
The intro to Daytripper always goes down well at band practice;)
The Beach Boys....I know they were innovative in the studio and all but...peeyew
Most of my mates can't stand them though
The intro to Daytripper always goes down well at band practice;)
The Beach Boys....I know they were innovative in the studio and all but...peeyew
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
Agreement 100% JS - apart from the Beach Boys who I quite like, at least SOME of their work at least....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: blakaam kaplow on 19 March, 2010, 07:45:24 PM
Post by: blakaam kaplow on 19 March, 2010, 07:45:24 PM
Young people they seem to be everywhere nowadays. With their nasty marmite breath, their "that's so random" and their "Stop looking at me like that or I'll call the police"
People may say they're our future but you just try living your life vicariously through them and you'll have their parents and social services breathing down your neck like a business of angry ferrets
People may say they're our future but you just try living your life vicariously through them and you'll have their parents and social services breathing down your neck like a business of angry ferrets
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 07:50:49 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 07:50:49 PM
ha. This misuse (or new definition that I haven't been told about)of the word "random" really bugs me
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Noisybast on 19 March, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Post by: Noisybast on 19 March, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 07:24:13 PM
I found that as I got better as a musician...
Wait one cotton pickin' minute. Better? Musician? What kind of a punk are you? ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 19 March, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
a failed one
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
The misuse of "random" crawls up my bumhole and lays eggs of hate too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 19 March, 2010, 08:29:38 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 19 March, 2010, 08:29:38 PM
'Random,' when used to describe entirely non-random occurrences, irritates me so much!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 March, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 March, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
Kids today dont know they are born and dont know what random means either.
Another stupid little Meme to add to the never ending list of stupid memes.
Another stupid little Meme to add to the never ending list of stupid memes.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 March, 2010, 01:16:39 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 March, 2010, 01:16:39 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 19 March, 2010, 01:32:16 PMWell I didn't much care for the band but I once had a dalliance with a girl who thought Ball of Confusion was the best record ever made.Quote from: The Cosh on 19 March, 2010, 01:15:23 PMComic or band?
I don't understand the appeal of Love and Rockets.
I was talking about the comic.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 20 March, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 20 March, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
Hot Chip.
Not exactly going to go down in musical history are they ?
Horrible tuneless insipid synth pap.
Not exactly going to go down in musical history are they ?
Horrible tuneless insipid synth pap.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 20 March, 2010, 11:15:13 AM
Post by: Mikey on 20 March, 2010, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 19 March, 2010, 06:30:36 PM
Further to the Beatles topic I'd simply add that a LOT of what was important and new about them WASN'T that new, but clever and well-judged repackaging - like the Sex Pistols would do later.
That would work for me as a description of yer actual pop. I'm very fond of the Beatles and think that very reworking, wrought with enthusiam, passion and a dash of originality is precisely why they're still listened to. Much as I love Revolver, Help is where it's at most of the time - great pop type tunes and no mistake.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 20 March, 2010, 12:02:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 20 March, 2010, 12:02:36 PM
Oh it's true of most of their work I think. That's what I meant anyway.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 May, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 May, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
Hot weather. Sweaty, uncomfortable, sun pounding on my bonce, too much flesh on show. Nah, I don't get it. The only thing I like are the bright colours of trees, the sky etc. Other than than, not for me. Sorry.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 07:08:26 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 07:08:26 PM
After this past shitacular Winter I resolved never to complain about hot weather again. At the very least it acts as a deterrent against wanking away more precious organ banks.
(For about 5 seconds)
(For about 5 seconds)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 23 May, 2010, 08:12:35 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 23 May, 2010, 08:12:35 PM
That's my policy too.
If the choice is freezing cold and rain, or sun and scantily clad women, I choose the latter.
If the choice is freezing cold and rain, or sun and scantily clad women, I choose the latter.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 23 May, 2010, 08:59:36 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 23 May, 2010, 08:59:36 PM
I like hot weather and i dont find it a problem in itself but people get on my tits when its hot particularly as i live in a seaside town.I hate to think what it was like in town so i just stayed at home as the beach was packed.
Theres always loud music and i can hear something going on the sea front as i can hear some idiot talking through a loudspeaker.Hot weather makes people in this country go a bit weird as well.Now i can hear some horrible singing which is loud enough to be irritating.They get on my tits do people partly because they always have to make too much noise.
The flesh on show would be alright if it was the right kind of flesh but 99 percent of the time it isnt.The less said about why its not the right kind the better.Besides today was not really hot in comparison to the tropics or the meditteranean.My Mum and Dad are lucky enough to be in the South of France right now and it was 30 degrees there today.
Before you know it summer will be over and it will be back to rubbish weather again so theres no point complaining about it especially as its the first really hot day this year.
Theres always loud music and i can hear something going on the sea front as i can hear some idiot talking through a loudspeaker.Hot weather makes people in this country go a bit weird as well.Now i can hear some horrible singing which is loud enough to be irritating.They get on my tits do people partly because they always have to make too much noise.
The flesh on show would be alright if it was the right kind of flesh but 99 percent of the time it isnt.The less said about why its not the right kind the better.Besides today was not really hot in comparison to the tropics or the meditteranean.My Mum and Dad are lucky enough to be in the South of France right now and it was 30 degrees there today.
Before you know it summer will be over and it will be back to rubbish weather again so theres no point complaining about it especially as its the first really hot day this year.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
WARMish weather? No problem, you get to "play out" and not bother about a coat. HOT? Hate it. I'd rather it was freezing all the time, warm weather like this makes me ill.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 09:21:26 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 09:21:26 PM
Quotewarm weather like this makes me ill.
And your suffering is a bad thing how?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
It means your mother isn't satisfied and she takes it out on you with the slipper.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
Oh, I don't understand the appeal of Michael Buble. Utter wank.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 May, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 23 May, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
A great big P'SHAWW and FIE to all you miserable sun haters. It's not too hot. It's just about hot enough. And if it wants to get a bit hotter, well that's fine by me.
Next you'll be telling me we had too much snow this Winter!
Next you'll be telling me we had too much snow this Winter!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 10:16:36 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 10:16:36 PM
No, I'm quite happy with rain and snow really. Hate hot weather, it gives me an upset stomach and makes me really cranky. Sorry if my dislike of it pees you off, I can't help it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 23 May, 2010, 10:16:36 PM
No, I'm quite happy with rain and snow really. Hate hot weather, it gives me an upset stomach and makes me really cranky. Sorry if my dislike of it pees you off, I can't help it.
You are not Max.
You are not Max and you never will be.
Stop trying to be Max, because you will never be Max.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 11:15:50 AM
No, not Max. Don't know any Max
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 24 May, 2010, 06:53:45 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 24 May, 2010, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 23 May, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
Hot weather. Sweaty, uncomfortable, sun pounding on my bonce, too much flesh on show. Nah, I don't get it. The only thing I like are the bright colours of trees, the sky etc. Other than than, not for me. Sorry.
I loved last Winter.
Worst bit yesterday was walking home from the train station - I felt ill when I got in.
The best vantage point of the spectacular beauty of the English Country this weekend was the air-conditioned Virgin train. I was comfortable and able to appreciate the lushness, vivid colours and shimmering air.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 May, 2010, 06:55:35 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 May, 2010, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 23 May, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
You are not Max.
You are not Max and you never will be.
Stop trying to be Max, because you will never be Max.
You really miss Max don't you, Godpleton?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 24 May, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 24 May, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
He was sure something.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 08:44:47 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 08:44:47 PM
Well, for good or ill, I'm not him.
Suck it up Godpleton.
Suck it up Godpleton.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 May, 2010, 10:09:17 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 24 May, 2010, 10:09:17 PM
I'm sorry that I really miss Max, David. I'm sorry that I can't "move on".
I'm sorry that 6 years ago, Conexus went crazy and decided he was going to take Max with him.
I'm sorry that he also took Mr Dribbles, VampiraJen, Bongo Jack, fate amenable to change, and Byron Virgo.
I'm sorry that Byron left behind a beautiful, fair-haired girl named Bryan Coyle. I'm sorry that she miscarried as a result of the blast and became the squawking ideologue that we can barely be twatting bothered to tolerate today.
I'm sorry he took Generally Contrary and we were left with you, Dudley and some jumped-up second-rater with a fucking metal detector.
I'm sorry that Gordon Rennie felt he had to leave his six-figure contract with 2000 AD in order to scratch out a living writing the dialogue for V-Rally 4: Street Skillz. I'm sorry that he brutally assaulted Gary a second time.
I will be raising a glass this June 14th. Will any of you?
I'm sorry that 6 years ago, Conexus went crazy and decided he was going to take Max with him.
I'm sorry that he also took Mr Dribbles, VampiraJen, Bongo Jack, fate amenable to change, and Byron Virgo.
I'm sorry that Byron left behind a beautiful, fair-haired girl named Bryan Coyle. I'm sorry that she miscarried as a result of the blast and became the squawking ideologue that we can barely be twatting bothered to tolerate today.
I'm sorry he took Generally Contrary and we were left with you, Dudley and some jumped-up second-rater with a fucking metal detector.
I'm sorry that Gordon Rennie felt he had to leave his six-figure contract with 2000 AD in order to scratch out a living writing the dialogue for V-Rally 4: Street Skillz. I'm sorry that he brutally assaulted Gary a second time.
I will be raising a glass this June 14th. Will any of you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Sorry Godders.
Hug?
Hug?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 May, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 May, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: Mike Gloady on 24 May, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Hug?
I'd suggest hitting him with a brick. It's the only way to be sure.
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 24 May, 2010, 10:19:56 PM
Post by: nev on 24 May, 2010, 10:19:56 PM
The Star Wars Prequels.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 May, 2010, 10:25:50 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 May, 2010, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: nev on 24 May, 2010, 10:19:56 PMPerhaps not in retrospect, but in anticipation?
The Star Wars Prequels.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 24 May, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
Post by: nev on 24 May, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
The idea seemed arsom. Then they created the Gungans. Possibly even worse than Ewoks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 24 May, 2010, 11:29:23 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 24 May, 2010, 11:29:23 PM
Wow, Roger - that's pretty comprehensive. I hate change too. I sure do miss some of those people. Curse you, Roger - my nostalgia has now turned maudlin.
As an aside, I have a fair inkling what Max is up to these days, and from what little I know, he's happier than we ever knew him here.
I also see Generally Contrary out and about around Cardiff now and then. We move in the same places if not the same circles.
As an aside, I have a fair inkling what Max is up to these days, and from what little I know, he's happier than we ever knew him here.
I also see Generally Contrary out and about around Cardiff now and then. We move in the same places if not the same circles.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 25 May, 2010, 12:07:56 AM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 25 May, 2010, 12:07:56 AM
I don't understand the apeall of adverts on the telly which take beautiful young women that would stop you dead in the street and having them slather crap all over their faces till they look like clowns. Those "here come the girls" Boots ones have been annoying me for a while but now theres one with a bunch of flatmates getting ready in the morning (make everyday beautiful).
Do women really think that they need all that slap to look good? Am I the only man who thinks they don't?
Do women really think that they need all that slap to look good? Am I the only man who thinks they don't?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mike Gloady on 25 May, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
Post by: Mike Gloady on 25 May, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: faplad on 25 May, 2010, 12:07:56 AM
Am I the only man who thinks they don't?
No you're not. Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Rog69 on 25 May, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
Post by: Rog69 on 25 May, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
Artificially expensive things.
The recent bout of good weather has reminded me that I need some new sunglasses, my previous pair of Rayban's that I won on a can of coke a few years ago are about knackered so I set out to buy a new pair.
How fucking much!!!
They can't cost more than a tenner a pair to make so why are they so stupidly expensive and why are people so stupid that they will pay that much?
The recent bout of good weather has reminded me that I need some new sunglasses, my previous pair of Rayban's that I won on a can of coke a few years ago are about knackered so I set out to buy a new pair.
How fucking much!!!
They can't cost more than a tenner a pair to make so why are they so stupidly expensive and why are people so stupid that they will pay that much?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 25 May, 2010, 02:25:34 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 25 May, 2010, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: Rog69 on 25 May, 2010, 02:20:47 PMI agree with you in principle, but after buying a proper pair of Oakleys, I wouldn't buy cheap ass sunglasses again. My current pair have lasted 8 years, a pair costing a tenner seldom last the summer and will always scratch.
Artificially expensive things.
The recent bout of good weather has reminded me that I need some new sunglasses, my previous pair of Rayban's that I won on a can of coke a few years ago are about knackered so I set out to buy a new pair.
How fucking much!!!
They can't cost more than a tenner a pair to make so why are they so stupidly expensive and why are people so stupid that they will pay that much?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 25 May, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
Post by: HdE on 25 May, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
I'm not a fan of the expensive luxury item.
If only because they generally make the owners devolve into utter knobs. Like the guy who damned near didn't speak to me for a week because I didn't pass his own pair of Oakley's to him as carefully as he would have liked (I hardly threw the at him, FFS!) He could always have got his overweight, bone-idle arse out of his seat and fetched 'em himself.
Or the guy I knew who forked out £13,000 for an imported Japanese supercar, and then promptly fell out with everybody he knew because he asked them to remove their shoes before getting in, told them they couldn't bring food on board, and resented being asked if you could put anything in the boot.
Knobwads.
I have no beef against the nice things themselves - it's just the way they affect their owners, sometimes.
If only because they generally make the owners devolve into utter knobs. Like the guy who damned near didn't speak to me for a week because I didn't pass his own pair of Oakley's to him as carefully as he would have liked (I hardly threw the at him, FFS!) He could always have got his overweight, bone-idle arse out of his seat and fetched 'em himself.
Or the guy I knew who forked out £13,000 for an imported Japanese supercar, and then promptly fell out with everybody he knew because he asked them to remove their shoes before getting in, told them they couldn't bring food on board, and resented being asked if you could put anything in the boot.
Knobwads.
I have no beef against the nice things themselves - it's just the way they affect their owners, sometimes.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 May, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 May, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
A fiver from Superdrug, that's the sort I like! I lose 2-3 pairs of sunglasses every summer and I'd be gutted if they were expensive ones. Others get squashed in pockets, covered in sand, sat on etc. The nicer the gear, the more of a ball-ache it is to look after it. In evidence, I cite Jim Campbell's weak excuse for not drinking much at Bristol (as confessed on another thread)! :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 25 May, 2010, 11:12:11 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 25 May, 2010, 11:12:11 PM
used to lose sunglasses every year exept the last two summers when i dropped them in public toilettes and there were no way i was picking them up off them floors (think the toilet in trainspotting maxed!)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SuperSurfer on 26 May, 2010, 11:26:50 AM
Post by: SuperSurfer on 26 May, 2010, 11:26:50 AM
Quote from: Rog69 on 25 May, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
Artificially expensive things.
I popped out yesterday to buy a mop refill and scavenger as I am, I went to a local shop that is closing down and has 30% off everything. Mop head was £5.39. Well no wonder they are closing down. Same item elsewhere for £2.91. (Mrs Brady Old Lady from VIZ complaining about the price of toilet rolls comes to mind as I type this.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
I had to buy a hoe((please, no sniggering at the word ho in this post) for the garden. Not knowing what they cost I bought the first one I saw in the garden centre - a Dermot Gavin endorsed one - over €20
Next day I went to a small hardware shop for something and saw hoes for €6
Fuck you Dermot Gavin
Next day I went to a small hardware shop for something and saw hoes for €6
Fuck you Dermot Gavin
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
RE: Women's Make Up
I find that in most cases where I think a woman is wearing no slap, she still is actually wearing some slap. Just subtle, like.
I find that in most cases where I think a woman is wearing no slap, she still is actually wearing some slap. Just subtle, like.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 29 May, 2010, 12:23:16 PM
Post by: nev on 29 May, 2010, 12:23:16 PM
Bruce Forsyth.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 May, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 29 May, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
Women who pluck their eyebrows.
It looks horrible.
It looks horrible.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 29 May, 2010, 01:47:47 PM
Post by: Mikey on 29 May, 2010, 01:47:47 PM
*ahem*
Q: Why do women wear make up and perfume?
A: Because they're ugly and they smell.
I'm here all week! Try the veal!
M.
Q: Why do women wear make up and perfume?
A: Because they're ugly and they smell.
I'm here all week! Try the veal!
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 May, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 May, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
iPads
genuinely.
Or iPhones - or iPods even. I'm not an apple man.
genuinely.
Or iPhones - or iPods even. I'm not an apple man.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 29 May, 2010, 05:16:09 PM
Post by: HdE on 29 May, 2010, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 May, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
I'm not an apple man.
You're a MAN??!?!??!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 29 May, 2010, 05:58:31 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 29 May, 2010, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: johnnystress on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
I bought the first one I saw in the garden centre - a Dermot Gavin endorsed one - over €20
Can I interest you in a Jane Asher baking tray or bun tin?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 May, 2010, 11:22:14 AM
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 May, 2010, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: HdE on 29 May, 2010, 05:16:09 PM
You're a MAN??!?!??!!
I apologise for my misleading picture - who would of thought a comics fan might be a longhair with heaving moobs?
IT'S LIKE SOME KIND OF CONSPIRACY
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 11:29:50 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: HdE on 29 May, 2010, 05:16:09 PMQuote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 29 May, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
I'm not an apple man.
You're a MAN??!?!??!!
oh my god! it's the Taylor Hanson thing all over again
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 30 May, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 30 May, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
I thought it was spelt "Diarmurd"?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:21:01 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:21:01 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 29 May, 2010, 05:58:31 PMQuote from: johnnystress on 26 May, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
I bought the first one I saw in the garden centre - a Dermot Gavin endorsed one - over €20
Can I interest you in a Jane Asher baking tray or bun tin?
no, no you can not
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:22:08 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 30 May, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
I thought it was spelt "Diarmurd"?
It's spelled "Diarmuid"
but fuck him- I'm down 15 quid or do because of him, he doesn't deserve it
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 30 May, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 30 May, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 29 May, 2010, 05:58:31 PM
Can I interest you in a Jane Asher baking tray or bun tin?
I only became aware such a thing existed when a friend included both on her wedding list. We were looking for something cheap to get her because we were skint as usual and she's a city accountant and could afford to kit out her own flat and kitchen, and because fuck it - we've been together 20 years and not bothered having a wedding ourselves, so excuse us if we didn't go straight for the crystal goblets for hers.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:43:48 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 30 May, 2010, 06:43:48 PM
I'm sure they're way better than ordinary bun tins though
A celebrity wouldn't endorse just any old muck
A celebrity wouldn't endorse just any old muck
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 May, 2010, 07:03:44 PM
Post by: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) on 30 May, 2010, 07:03:44 PM
Wouldnt be much "bun" using anything else :o
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 30 May, 2010, 07:07:51 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 30 May, 2010, 07:07:51 PM
That Dairymaid Gavin bloke is all over the promotional literature for a range of landscaping products I used to sell. A range of products that was simultaneously higher priced and lower quality than the competitor we sold previously.
It was also much more popular. I've never understood that particular correlation myself. "You get what you pay for" is true to an extent but come on, don't let yourself be ripped off.
It was also much more popular. I've never understood that particular correlation myself. "You get what you pay for" is true to an extent but come on, don't let yourself be ripped off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dode C on 30 May, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
Post by: Dode C on 30 May, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 29 May, 2010, 01:32:38 PMThe Dennis Healey/Patrick Moore look isn't exactly de rigeur this season though.
Women who pluck their eyebrows.
It looks horrible.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 30 May, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 30 May, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 29 May, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
Women who pluck their eyebrows.
It looks horrible.
Over-plucking is horrific but neatening them up should be the law!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 May, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Unplucked hirsuit brows on men make them look like paedos.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 May, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 30 May, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: wild-seven on 30 May, 2010, 09:29:58 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 29 May, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
Women who pluck their eyebrows.
It looks horrible.
Over-plucking is horrific but neatening them up should be the law!
Thats what i meant or what i should have said.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 31 May, 2010, 01:05:52 AM
Post by: M.I.K. on 31 May, 2010, 01:05:52 AM
What's Lobster Random doing up there?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 31 May, 2010, 10:24:05 AM
Post by: johnnystress on 31 May, 2010, 10:24:05 AM
Sharpie eyebrows are the way 0f the future
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 31 May, 2010, 10:44:48 AM
Post by: nev on 31 May, 2010, 10:44:48 AM
I beg to differ. They look ridiculous.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 31 May, 2010, 01:24:48 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 31 May, 2010, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: Garageman on 30 May, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Unplucked hirsuit brows on men make them look like paedos.
I'm so glad there's an easy way to spot them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 May, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 31 May, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: nev on 31 May, 2010, 10:44:48 AM
I beg to differ. They look ridiculous.
Agreed.
Its a horrible horrible look.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: doggie on 01 June, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
Post by: doggie on 01 June, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
I reckon it became OK when 'Fame' was a TV series.
That isn't to say you shouldn't point and laugh though...
Doggie
That isn't to say you shouldn't point and laugh though...
Doggie
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: doggie on 01 June, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
Post by: doggie on 01 June, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: Garageman on 30 May, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Unplucked hirsuit brows on men make them look like paedos.
This is the top of Ken Campbell's head. He rocks!
Doggie
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
I don't understand the appeal of New Age crap, like dolphins, unicorns, crystals, dream catchers, aromatherapy, relaxation tapes, and all that jazz.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 01 June, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
Post by: nev on 01 June, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:42:18 PMTake it back. The rest is bullshit but unicorns are fantastic.
unicorns
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:49:46 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:49:46 PM
Quote from: nev on 01 June, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
Take it back. The rest is bullshit but unicorns are fantastic.
Your enthusiasm for unicorns is admirable.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 June, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 June, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
I believe those eyebrows belong to the late great Ken Campbell - and that's a scurrilous slur!
And are those trays genuinely modelled on Jane Asher's buns?
And are those trays genuinely modelled on Jane Asher's buns?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 June, 2010, 07:57:18 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 June, 2010, 07:57:18 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 01 June, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
I believe those eyebrows belong to the late great Ken Campbell - and that's a scurrilous slur!
And are those trays genuinely modelled on Jane Asher's buns?
I thought it looked like Alf Garnett/Warren Mitchell.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 June, 2010, 08:55:38 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 01 June, 2010, 08:55:38 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 01 June, 2010, 07:57:18 PM
I thought it looked like Alf Garnett/Warren Mitchell.
Nope - defo Ken. (http://www.timnunn.com/category/photography/) The most brilliantly insane man I've ever seen. I'd thoroughly recommend his books.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 June, 2010, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 June, 2010, 09:26:52 PM
I seem to recall Garageman saying he looked like a "kiddy fiddler" before, or more specifically, Erasmus Microman did.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 01 June, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 01 June, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
Unchecked and this will happen.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 June, 2010, 10:10:05 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 June, 2010, 10:10:05 PM
http://www.rathergood.com/alf
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 02 June, 2010, 03:24:36 AM
Post by: HdE on 02 June, 2010, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 01 June, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
I don't understand the appeal of New Age crap, like dolphins, unicorns, crystals, dream catchers, aromatherapy, relaxation tapes, and all that jazz.
Now, I LIKE dolphins. Clever little critters!
Funny story - somebody I know used to live in a sea-front town, and developed a great aversion to the sound of sea gulls. The racket of them cawing all day used to do his head in.
Somebody loaned him a relaxation tape to listen to at night around this time.
So he hunkers down, listening to the tape. He hears the soothing 'swish' of the sea lapping against the shore... and then the cawing of seagulls!
So - not relaxing for him at all!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
I don't understand what would drive a man to walk around in broad daylight wearing a leather cowboy hat, reminiscent of the style 'popularised' by tiresome author, Terry Shitpratt.
Come to think of it, I don't get the whole 'nerd' costume of long leather coat (presumably worn because it makes you look like a super cool warrior who's trapped in The Matrix? No, it makes you look like a NERD), stupid clompy boots and pony tail. Awful, awful look.
Come to think of it, I don't get the whole 'nerd' costume of long leather coat (presumably worn because it makes you look like a super cool warrior who's trapped in The Matrix? No, it makes you look like a NERD), stupid clompy boots and pony tail. Awful, awful look.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:38:48 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:38:48 AM
...and before I bring down the wrath of our more hirsute boarders, I don't have anything against pony tails per se, only when coupled with one or more of the other items listed above.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
Harry Potter.
Twilight.
Glee.
Twilight.
Glee.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: James Stacey on 02 June, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
Post by: James Stacey on 02 June, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
a work colleague of mine combined both spaceghost. Skinny fecker he was with long leather jacket and leather cowboy hat (he thought he was Carl McCoy) he looked like a goth nail.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 02 June, 2010, 06:10:46 PM
Post by: radiator on 02 June, 2010, 06:10:46 PM
QuoteGlee
Oh God yes. Apparently it's supposed to be really sharp and clever and funny and everything, but I've tried to watch it and had to turn it off within 5 minutes because of the thoroughly offensive singing.
I CAN'T STAND that over-polished, bratty, bland, predictable, karaoke/X-Factor/stage school/broadway, theatrical, OTT, needlessly showy style of singing. It's just a horrible sound that completely dominates the rest of the music and I don't know how anyone can listen to it for any length of time. Of course it's not just Glee that is guilty of this, but it's permeated popular culture to the point where this sort of thing is considered 'good' singing.
It's not singing. It's not art - it's just empty, soulless, warbling - the only purpose of which is so the singer can show off their vocal range as much as humanly possible. I HATE the way they insist on peppering the song they are covering with all these entirely unnecessary little vocal flourishes.
GRRRR!
I feel better now.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 02 June, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 02 June, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Radiator - You may have one of my children.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 June, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 June, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong, Radiator, but if your argument in any way suggests that the show produces inferior versions of Ice Ice baby and Run Joey Run, you may be on a path that leads nowhere good.
Glee is a series about a show choir, which has long been a staple of American high schools before reality tv came along, and whose basic function - after giving kids credit for colleges they can't afford to attend - is to let them work as a group to sing popular tunes in whatever manner takes their fancy. There really wasn't anywhere else for a show about a show choir to go. Personally, I find downloading it and skipping through the songs to get to Jane Lynch's parts yields a much better viewing experience.
Glee is a series about a show choir, which has long been a staple of American high schools before reality tv came along, and whose basic function - after giving kids credit for colleges they can't afford to attend - is to let them work as a group to sing popular tunes in whatever manner takes their fancy. There really wasn't anywhere else for a show about a show choir to go. Personally, I find downloading it and skipping through the songs to get to Jane Lynch's parts yields a much better viewing experience.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 02 June, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 02 June, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
I have never watched Glee but the random extracts I have witnessed leads me to believe it's like Fame but gayer.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 02 June, 2010, 07:45:45 PM
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 02 June, 2010, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 02 June, 2010, 07:16:46 PMThere really wasn't anywhere else for a show about a show choir to go. Personally, I find downloading it and skipping through the songs to get to Jane Lynch's parts yields a much better viewing experience.
I find a superior viewing experience to this is downloading it and deleting it straight away.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 June, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 June, 2010, 07:55:43 PM
I dont even know what Glee is and i dont want or need to know what it is as i have more important things to think about.
Its good being out of touch with popular culture as i never know what any of it is.
I already know its going to be sixth rate trash anyway so why bother ?
Its good being out of touch with popular culture as i never know what any of it is.
I already know its going to be sixth rate trash anyway so why bother ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 02 June, 2010, 07:57:28 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 02 June, 2010, 07:57:28 PM
Quote from: nev on 02 June, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
Harry Potter.
Twilight.
Glee.
but you like unicorns?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
Yes. Yes I do.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 02 June, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 02 June, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
My wife and eldest daughter are into Glee, What a pile of shite. Trying not to be homophobic but it is so Gay.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 08:35:31 PM
Post by: nev on 02 June, 2010, 08:35:31 PM
Especially the gay guy. He's pretty gay.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 June, 2010, 08:38:41 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 June, 2010, 08:38:41 PM
Dolphins are just gay sharks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 June, 2010, 08:43:29 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 June, 2010, 08:43:29 PM
Quote from: spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
I don't understand what would drive a man to walk around in broad daylight wearing a leather cowboy hat, reminiscent of the style 'popularised' by tiresome author, Terry Shitpratt.
Come to think of it, I don't get the whole 'nerd' costume of long leather coat (presumably worn because it makes you look like a super cool warrior who's trapped in The Matrix? No, it makes you look like a NERD), stupid clompy boots and pony tail. Awful, awful look.
Umm ... why is a cowboy hat any more/less stupid than a beanie/woolly hat or a baseball cap? In the rain, it's like an umbrella you don't have to hold!
I ask as a Field of the Nephilim fan of 20-odd years' standing, so cowboy hats, duster coats and big boots have been staples of my wardrobe since looooong before the Matrix ...
Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 June, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 June, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Fyfe Dangerfield.
It beats me how anyone finds it listenable.
Irritating beardy little Twat.
I cant stand virtually anything in the contemporary music scene and i am tired of bands whose members look like identikit scruffy students.Just look at what is in the top 40 album charts :lol: :sick:.just unbelievable and the only thing in there that is any good is the Rolling Stones
Another one is Plan B.Unlistenable Shite and proof that popular culture is in terminal decline .They are proof that people who should be flipping burgers should not be making music.
Enother is Pendulum who are so indesribably awful that i dont even want to rant about them.
Even Faithless are back in the charts when i thought i had heard the last of them.Its always that Maxi Jazz guy on the cover as well.not sure why as he always looks emaciated like a Crackhead or an Aids victim.
Micheal Buble.20 seconds of that was more than enough.Fuck Off and shut the door on your way out.
It beats me how anyone finds it listenable.
Irritating beardy little Twat.
I cant stand virtually anything in the contemporary music scene and i am tired of bands whose members look like identikit scruffy students.Just look at what is in the top 40 album charts :lol: :sick:.just unbelievable and the only thing in there that is any good is the Rolling Stones
Another one is Plan B.Unlistenable Shite and proof that popular culture is in terminal decline .They are proof that people who should be flipping burgers should not be making music.
Enother is Pendulum who are so indesribably awful that i dont even want to rant about them.
Even Faithless are back in the charts when i thought i had heard the last of them.Its always that Maxi Jazz guy on the cover as well.not sure why as he always looks emaciated like a Crackhead or an Aids victim.
Micheal Buble.20 seconds of that was more than enough.Fuck Off and shut the door on your way out.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 03 June, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Post by: HdE on 03 June, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 02 June, 2010, 08:38:41 PM
Dolphins are just gay sharks.
Dolphins are super. Thanks for asking. ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 03 June, 2010, 10:36:06 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 03 June, 2010, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 02 June, 2010, 08:43:29 PM
Umm ... why is a cowboy hat any more/less stupid than a beanie/woolly hat or a baseball cap? In the rain, it's like an umbrella you don't have to hold!
I ask as a Field of the Nephilim fan of 20-odd years' standing, so cowboy hats, duster coats and big boots have been staples of my wardrobe since looooong before the Matrix ...
Cheers
Jim
Sorry Jim. To me it's worse than white socks and sandals. It's just a matter of personal taste really and the thread is called "I don't understand the appeal of...". I should probably stop being so judgmental.
After upsetting a friend on Facebook by making a joke about Scientology, you're the second person I've offended today. I think I'd better go to bed...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: doggie on 04 June, 2010, 07:12:37 PM
Post by: doggie on 04 June, 2010, 07:12:37 PM
Quote
Sorry Jim. To me it's worse than white socks and sandals. It's just a matter of personal taste really and the thread is called "I don't understand the appeal of...". I should probably stop being so judgmental.
After upsetting a friend on Facebook by making a joke about Scientology, you're the second person I've offended today. I think I'd better go to bed...
No, no! More jokes about scientology please! Xenu the alien demands it!
And I don't understand the appeal of an expensive religion created by a bad SF author, the main premise of which reads like a load of drug-addled old cobblers.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 04 June, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 04 June, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
yes. Scientology is indeed a big load of old bollocks. They don't like you to point that out though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: The Doctor Alt 8 on 04 June, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
Post by: The Doctor Alt 8 on 04 June, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
You don't trust Dolphins do you?
They are up to something
honests just because they have a smile stuck on their face...
They are up to something
honests just because they have a smile stuck on their face...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 June, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 June, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
The most laughable aspect of Scientology is that L.Ron.Hubbard deliberately set out to establish a cult and the books were the pretext.He didnt believe a word that he wrote and it was all about money.
The whole thing is a fraud.
*
When i was aged 17 and still living at home my Dad noticed i was reading a copy of Dianetics and was a bit concerned that i was being indoctrinated or was about to join them so i said not to worry as the book is just garbage and shortly after that i threw the book on the fire one evening to prove what i thought about it.
The whole thing is a fraud.
*
When i was aged 17 and still living at home my Dad noticed i was reading a copy of Dianetics and was a bit concerned that i was being indoctrinated or was about to join them so i said not to worry as the book is just garbage and shortly after that i threw the book on the fire one evening to prove what i thought about it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 04 June, 2010, 09:50:54 PM
Post by: HdE on 04 June, 2010, 09:50:54 PM
My thoughts on religion and freedom of expression through woprship are WELL known in this thread.
But even I find Scientology a bit wacky.
There. I've said it.
But even I find Scientology a bit wacky.
There. I've said it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 04 June, 2010, 09:54:01 PM
Post by: nev on 04 June, 2010, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 04 June, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
He didnt believe a word that he wrote and it was all about money.
"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." - L. Ron Hubbard.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 05 June, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
Post by: HdE on 05 June, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
To change the subject somewhat:
I don't understand the appeal of... having an online sense of humour bypass.
I spend a small portion of each day darting between different message boards and websites as I look for new projects to join or folks to collaborate with on fan comics and things like that.
Over the last week, several individuals have REALLY pissed me off. They didn't necessarily do or say anything to me personally. But their sour online demeanour, perpetual bad temper, inability to greet even the mildest humour with anything less than unbridled aggression and their childish desire to dump all over anything anybody else posts has really started to grate.
Some days, I'd like to gather all these people in one place, and slap 'em all silly until they understand that everything is more fun when everybody plays nice.
I don't understand the appeal of... having an online sense of humour bypass.
I spend a small portion of each day darting between different message boards and websites as I look for new projects to join or folks to collaborate with on fan comics and things like that.
Over the last week, several individuals have REALLY pissed me off. They didn't necessarily do or say anything to me personally. But their sour online demeanour, perpetual bad temper, inability to greet even the mildest humour with anything less than unbridled aggression and their childish desire to dump all over anything anybody else posts has really started to grate.
Some days, I'd like to gather all these people in one place, and slap 'em all silly until they understand that everything is more fun when everybody plays nice.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 05 June, 2010, 04:09:24 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 05 June, 2010, 04:09:24 PM
...one last go of Big Brother before they pull the plug. :rolleyes: Horrible.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 05 June, 2010, 04:58:10 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 05 June, 2010, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:33:58 AMCome to think of it, I don't get the whole 'nerd' costume of long leather coat (presumably worn because it makes you look like a super cool warrior who's trapped in The Matrix? No, it makes you look like a NERD), stupid clompy boots and pony tail. Awful, awful look.
Amen.
You know what I also hate? The combination of pants - or skirts, shorts or jeans - with any kind of upper body garment like a shirt or a sweater, especially when combined with any kind of footwear, headwear or body hair in various combinations just because that's how someone rolls. My grandfather didn't fight in WW2 just so people could go around like that whenever they felt like it - mind you, until the day he died he was gutted the Allies won.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 June, 2010, 09:34:20 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 June, 2010, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 05 June, 2010, 04:58:10 PMYeah, let's all go naked. Break down a few barriers. Or were you using thinly veiled sarcasm to take the piss out of my light hearted rant? It's hard to tell.Quote from: spaceghost on 02 June, 2010, 08:33:58 AMCome to think of it, I don't get the whole 'nerd' costume of long leather coat (presumably worn because it makes you look like a super cool warrior who's trapped in The Matrix? No, it makes you look like a NERD), stupid clompy boots and pony tail. Awful, awful look.
Amen.
You know what I also hate? The combination of pants - or skirts, shorts or jeans - with any kind of upper body garment like a shirt or a sweater, especially when combined with any kind of footwear, headwear or body hair in various combinations just because that's how someone rolls. My grandfather didn't fight in WW2 just so people could go around like that whenever they felt like it - mind you, until the day he died he was gutted the Allies won.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 June, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 June, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
I am 90 percent naked right now as i type but i have to say i dont see the appeal in 100 percent nakedness at all.
What the FUCK are YOU talking about ???
>:(
:D ;)
Quote from: HdE on 05 June, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
To change the subject somewhat:
I don't understand the appeal of... having an online sense of humour bypass.
I spend a small portion of each day darting between different message boards and websites as I look for new projects to join or folks to collaborate with on fan comics and things like that.
Over the last week, several individuals have REALLY pissed me off. They didn't necessarily do or say anything to me personally. But their sour online demeanour, perpetual bad temper, inability to greet even the mildest humour with anything less than unbridled aggression and their childish desire to dump all over anything anybody else posts has really started to grate.
Some days, I'd like to gather all these people in one place, and slap 'em all silly until they understand that everything is more fun when everybody plays nice.
What the FUCK are YOU talking about ???
>:(
:D ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 05 June, 2010, 10:23:28 PM
Post by: Kerrin on 05 June, 2010, 10:23:28 PM
I simply do not understand why some people insist on wearing their rubber pants with the studs on the outside, INSIDE, the studs go on the inside.
Filthy little perverts.
Filthy little perverts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 June, 2010, 10:42:52 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 05 June, 2010, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: Kerrin on 05 June, 2010, 10:23:28 PMYou wear pants? Nazi.
I simply do not understand why some people insist on wearing their rubber pants with the studs on the outside, INSIDE, the studs go on the inside.
Filthy little perverts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 June, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 05 June, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 05 June, 2010, 04:58:10 PM
Amen.
You know what I also hate? The combination of pants - or skirts, shorts or jeans - with any kind of upper body garment like a shirt or a sweater, especially when combined with any kind of footwear, headwear or body hair in various combinations just because that's how someone rolls.
Definately.
I think wearing pants,skirts,shorts and jeans altogether looks stupid especially when its skirts worn with jeans or jeans and shorts together.
I mean what DO they look like ??
Also any of the above WITH body hair is just SO last season Darling !
This season its shaved legs and no shoes with quarter length skirts and a Cowboy hat.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 05 June, 2010, 11:21:13 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 05 June, 2010, 11:21:13 PM
...girls wearing the ugg boots in summer and lads wearing t-shirts and long shorts WITH A BLOODY BIG WOOLY HAT ON!!!
and theyoung "yuppie" bloke in manchester wearing a crombie style big wooly coat!
and theyoung "yuppie" bloke in manchester wearing a crombie style big wooly coat!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 June, 2010, 12:32:02 AM
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 June, 2010, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: spaceghost on 05 June, 2010, 09:34:20 PMOr were you using thinly veiled sarcasm to take the piss out of my light hearted rant? It's hard to tell.
I missed the light hearted tone and got the impression you were off on one. It just seemed odd to stick the boot into a narrow combination of clothing with practical applications for anyone who lives in a country where it rains 49 weeks of the year.
If you're going to go off on any item of clothing, go off on the tie - an utterly useless bit of clothing with no practical purpose or reason for being. It can choke you, get caught in mechanisms, doors, get rumpled and make you look untidy - but can it be justified? Can it fuck.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 12:54:25 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 12:54:25 AM
you're right. Ties are crap. I'll be damned if I'll apologise for hating leather cowboy hats though. Dreadful.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 June, 2010, 01:08:58 AM
Post by: Professor Bear on 06 June, 2010, 01:08:58 AM
Quote from: spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 12:54:25 AMI'll be damned if I'll apologise for hating leather cowboy hats though. Dreadful.
The thing about brimmed hats is, they're for keeping the rain off your head. The thing about leather is, it's waterproof.
Oh, I've forgotten where I was going with this...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 06 June, 2010, 01:08:58 AMQuote from: spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 12:54:25 AMI'll be damned if I'll apologise for hating leather cowboy hats though. Dreadful.
The thing about brimmed hats is, they're for keeping the rain off your head. The thing about leather is, it's waterproof.
Oh, I've forgotten where I was going with this...
The other thing about them is that they make you look like an utter twat. The same effect can be achieved by wearing a Netto carrier bag on your head. This has the added advantage of looking less pretentious and self-conciously eccentric.
Let's not fall out about it though. I don't really care. Except I do a bit...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 06:48:38 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 06 June, 2010, 06:48:38 AM
I typed that last post night whilst very drunk when it seemed like a funny joke. This morning, in the cold light of day, it makes me look like a prick.
Hope I didn't piss you off, I imagined I was being witty at the time.
Hope I didn't piss you off, I imagined I was being witty at the time.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 June, 2010, 10:28:15 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 06 June, 2010, 10:28:15 AM
I typed my last comment while being ever so slightly under the influence.
I dont see the appeal of ties either or suits or dressing smartly.I could tolerate an expensive suit by a fashion designer but otherwise no thanks.Another is that whole black tie get up that you see at Society events or Oscar ceremonies and the like.
Boxer shorts.
I dont see the appeal of ties either or suits or dressing smartly.I could tolerate an expensive suit by a fashion designer but otherwise no thanks.Another is that whole black tie get up that you see at Society events or Oscar ceremonies and the like.
Boxer shorts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 06 June, 2010, 11:02:47 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 06 June, 2010, 11:02:47 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 06 June, 2010, 12:32:02 AM
If you're going to go off on any item of clothing, go off on the tie - an utterly useless bit of clothing with no practical purpose or reason for being. It can choke you, get caught in mechanisms, doors...
If anyone is in any doubt, remember what happened to Dollar Bill. I shudder just at the thought of it.
:| ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 06 June, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 06 June, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
being an nhs monkey we are actually banned from wearing them (not that i would mind ) in case any one tries to stangle me so i have a badge on a breakaway lanyard that breaks away eventually when being pulled assumin gt hey dont sneak up behind and strangle you with the badge end!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: wild-seven on 06 June, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
Post by: wild-seven on 06 June, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
Denim shorts and thick black tights; if it's cold enough to need tights then it's too cold for hotpants and if it's warm enough for shorts then it's far too warm for tights. Not to mention you'll gain yourself a galloping bout of thrush.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: nev on 06 June, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
Post by: nev on 06 June, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
iPhone balls. What the fuck?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 06 June, 2010, 09:54:09 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 06 June, 2010, 09:54:09 PM
All hats are fucking homo-apps that cosseted lamers wear because they're scared of rain and because they know that God hates them and the urge to wear a hat comes as a subconscious hermeneutic of guilt that dictates that aforementioned God is liable to just get bored of them sucking up oxygen and to skydeath them as soon as they go outside.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 June, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 June, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
The Flaming Lips.
I dont like anything about them and everything i have heard by them i have strongly disliked.I just find them and their music irritating.
I dont like anything about them and everything i have heard by them i have strongly disliked.I just find them and their music irritating.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
More of a rant, really, but people writing 'think' instead of 'thing' and 'loose' instead of 'lose' always grinds my gears.
I simply do not understand how a person could reach adulthood and not realise the difference between these words - it's utterly mind boggling to me.
I must stress, I am not at all a grammar/spelling pedant, but I'm consistently amazed at the poor level of both in a lot of people I work for. The work I do is quite complex stuff, and I need detailed, concise, clear briefs, otherwise things get complicated very quickly.
What I get is almost always a poorly worded scrawl - woeful spelling, no punctuation, repeated sentences, incoherent description of the brief... the lack of communication skills on their part leads to confusion, and quite often wasted time and/or money for me. And these emails are from (presumably) intelligent, well-educated, well paid individuals. I think it's just laziness a lot of the time. I mean, how long does it take to quickly read an email back to check if it reads OK?
>:( >:( >:(
I simply do not understand how a person could reach adulthood and not realise the difference between these words - it's utterly mind boggling to me.
I must stress, I am not at all a grammar/spelling pedant, but I'm consistently amazed at the poor level of both in a lot of people I work for. The work I do is quite complex stuff, and I need detailed, concise, clear briefs, otherwise things get complicated very quickly.
What I get is almost always a poorly worded scrawl - woeful spelling, no punctuation, repeated sentences, incoherent description of the brief... the lack of communication skills on their part leads to confusion, and quite often wasted time and/or money for me. And these emails are from (presumably) intelligent, well-educated, well paid individuals. I think it's just laziness a lot of the time. I mean, how long does it take to quickly read an email back to check if it reads OK?
>:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
What I get is almost always a poorly worded scrawl - woeful spelling, no punctuation, repeated sentences, incoherent description of the brief...
I have to deal with a lot of absurdly complicated Public Sector tender documentation these days, all aimed at creating a mountain of butt-covering paperwork for the civil/public servant commissioning the work (not only do you want the company's bank statements, you want photographs from my last five jobs? Why, am I to be judged on the aesthetics of the hole I'm looking into?). You would think this level of supposed propriety would necessitate a clear brief for the project itself, but no.
What you get is a series of re-used paragraphs cut-and-pasted together from other tender docs, usually contradictory and always containing duplication, with linking sentences that are written in (at best) a crude patois. There's been no obvious proofing, infrequent spell-checking and no assessment of whether the text relates to what they actually want you to do. And this, when I as uncompensated applicant have to fill in 30 pages of forms (not an exaggeration), plus reams of supporting information, and swear numerous declarations that my price will cover each and every contradictory permutation of an as-yet undefined project? And all for what often amount to a week's work, awarded on a lowest-price basis? MS Word has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
There was something the other day I couldn't understand the appeal of but I forgot what it was. I'll have a think and see if it comes back to me.
In the meantime:
Schloer: far too sugary
Wall's Carte D'or icecream: nasty, downmarket stuff
Wall's Vienetta: even more nasty and downmarket stuff, which was never as sophisticated as many people imagine
Arctic roll, on the otherhand, is superb, unpretentious, and good quality.
In the meantime:
Schloer: far too sugary
Wall's Carte D'or icecream: nasty, downmarket stuff
Wall's Vienetta: even more nasty and downmarket stuff, which was never as sophisticated as many people imagine
Arctic roll, on the otherhand, is superb, unpretentious, and good quality.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 09 August, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 09 August, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
Is there actually a decent medium to low priced ice cream you can get from the supermarkets. They all seem to be not as nice as when they came in cardboard wrapping*.
*ie back in the stone ages
*ie back in the stone ages
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 03:46:26 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 03:46:26 PM
I still get mine in a cardboard wrapping - HB Vanilla. Mmmmmmm.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 04:04:13 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 04:04:13 PM
The marscapone flavour Carte D'or is the shit. Shame on you, sitting up there in your bourgeois ivory tower.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2010, 04:12:57 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2010, 04:12:57 PM
Had some ice cream at my mum's recently and it was very poor - checked the label and found it wasn't even ice cream, it was "non-dairy frozen desert" - What is the world coming too?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 09 August, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
Is there actually a decent medium to low priced ice cream you can get from the supermarkets.
Tesco finest is pretty good. It comes in plastic tubs. Sometimes on a two for £5 offer.
Asda's vanilla flavoured icecream in a Carte d'Or-style tub is good too.
I generally only ever buy icecream when it's on special offer so I can afford the snobby kind without having to pay posh prices for it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: WoD on 09 August, 2010, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: WoD on 09 August, 2010, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Arctic roll, on the otherhand, is superb, unpretentious, and good quality.
You know...I'm going to buy some of that this week as a treat for mini-WoD...he's not had it before (and I love it!).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: WoD on 09 August, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
Post by: WoD on 09 August, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 04:20:11 PMQuote from: staticgirl on 09 August, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
Is there actually a decent medium to low priced ice cream you can get from the supermarkets.
Tesco finest is pretty good. It comes in plastic tubs. Sometimes on a two for £5 offer.
Asda's vanilla flavoured icecream in a Carte d'Or-style tub is good too.
I generally only ever buy icecream when it's on special offer so I can afford the snobby kind without having to pay posh prices for it.
Tesco mid-range is damn nice too...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: EddieHitler on 09 August, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
Post by: EddieHitler on 09 August, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
Chelsea sodding football club!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
More of a rant, really, but people writing 'think' instead of 'thing' and 'loose' instead of 'lose' always grinds my gears.
I suppose the problem is they don't get flagged in spellcheckers so a typo can sneak in - I know I keep typing "form" instead of "from" (its all in the timing of the switch from left to right hand when typing), but I know I do this more often than I should and now check carefully for it.
No excuse for mixing "their" and "they're" though ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
QuoteI suppose the problem is they don't get flagged in spellcheckers so a typo can sneak in - I know I keep typing "form" instead of "from" (its all in the timing of the switch from left to right hand when typing), but I know I do this more often than I should and now check carefully for it.
I'm not sure - a lot of people genuinely think it's loose instead lose. I've seen the phrase "x has got another think coming" a lot too, even in magazine articles. That's wrong, surely?
...Internet advertising. I understand that websites need to make money, and I think being forced to sit through an ad or two to watch a full program on SeeSaw or 4OD is fair enough.
But embedded adverts before Youtube videos or every third Failblog clip? Piss off! In many cases the ad is longer than the clip I want to watch - I simply won't watch either.
The very worst is being expected to watch an advert for the privilege of watching a movie trailer! One advert subsidising another? What is this madness?!!?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 August, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 09 August, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
I'm not sure - a lot of people genuinely think it's loose instead lose. I've seen the phrase "x has got another think coming" a lot too, even in magazine articles. That's wrong, surely?
I'm on the verge of giving up and just accepting that everyone bar me is functionally illiterate. "Gnarly" instead of "Gnarled" is one that I see in print all the time. Drives me potty.
Cheers!
Jim
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 05:30:50 PMQuoteI suppose the problem is they don't get flagged in spellcheckers so a typo can sneak in - I know I keep typing "form" instead of "from" (its all in the timing of the switch from left to right hand when typing), but I know I do this more often than I should and now check carefully for it.
I'm not sure - a lot of people genuinely think it's loose instead lose. I've seen the phrase "x has got another think coming" a lot too, even in magazine articles. That's wrong, surely?
Indeed. Perhaps people think the phrase means the person is going to have another thought soon, which might say more about that individual ;)
I am constantly surprised by how people get the wrong end of the stick - one night in the pub I pulled one of my friends up on his pronunciation of a word (pedants + pubs = not a good mix) and it turned out he genuinely believed the word for the big thing you find on tops of houses was "chimley" and his best justification for this was that it said so in the song:
QuoteChim chimiley
Chim chimiley
Chim chim cher-ee!
He holds an important job in local government and is pretty damn good at it, he is still an idiot.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 06:04:33 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 09 August, 2010, 06:04:33 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
I am constantly surprised by how people get the wrong end of the stick - one night in the pub I pulled one of my friends up on his pronunciation of a word (pedants + pubs = not a good mix) and it turned out he genuinely believed the word for the big thing you find on tops of houses was "chimley" and his best justification for this was that it said so in the song:
Well, I think 'Chimbley' is an accepted regional variation. Not quite the same, and it might not fly in Olympic Scrabble but still.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:07:46 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:07:46 PM
Wearing a t-shirt that isn't completely plain. I'm not an advert for no one.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SMOKESCREEN:ED:9 on 09 August, 2010, 06:12:40 PM
Post by: SMOKESCREEN:ED:9 on 09 August, 2010, 06:12:40 PM
Getting slapped on the back with an obese woman's Lard Apron, (Fat Blanket.)
Just as much as getting extra lickle Croc'dile clips attached to one's nipples and having them yanked whilst moaning, "Oooooooooh!" :o :-\ :-*
Just as much as getting extra lickle Croc'dile clips attached to one's nipples and having them yanked whilst moaning, "Oooooooooh!" :o :-\ :-*
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:13:55 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:07:46 PM
Wearing a t-shirt that isn't completely plain. I'm not an advert for no one.
Are you my gran, Roger? She used to turn her shopping bags inside out, so she wouldn't be seen to be "advertising". When I bought my first Adam & The Ants tshirt, in 1980 (from 'Trendy Girl', fact fans) she was horrified and told me off something proper.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:13:55 PMQuote from: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:07:46 PM
Wearing a t-shirt that isn't completely plain. I'm not an advert for no one.
Are you my gran, Roger?
How frightening a revelation would that be?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:23:02 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
How frightening a revelation would that be?
Fairly, considering she's been dead these last seventeen years.
Eyethangkew.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:32:50 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 06:32:50 PM
I know what I like, I don't need to parade it around like some sort of whore waving her cunt around.
Wear any t-shirt that advertises anything and you are one step away from Juggalo Town. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMv9d1pIoBA
(Video is EXTREMELY upsetting BTW, you don't have to watch it.)
Wear any t-shirt that advertises anything and you are one step away from Juggalo Town. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMv9d1pIoBA
(Video is EXTREMELY upsetting BTW, you don't have to watch it.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 August, 2010, 05:48:48 PMQuote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
I'm not sure - a lot of people genuinely think it's loose instead lose. I've seen the phrase "x has got another think coming" a lot too, even in magazine articles. That's wrong, surely?
I'm on the verge of giving up and just accepting that everyone bar me is functionally illiterate. "Gnarly" instead of "Gnarled" is one that I see in print all the time. Drives me potty.
Cheers!
We live in an Idiocracy full of chemically lobotomised lazy zombified dumbed down idiots which is apparent after reading various comments in this thread.
Quote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:21:09 PMJim
I suppose the problem is they don't get flagged in spellcheckers so a typo can sneak in - I know I keep typing "form" instead of "from" (its all in the timing of the switch from left to right hand when typing), but I know I do this more often than I should and now check carefully for it.
No excuse for mixing "their" and "they're" though ;)
[/quote]
The only excuse is stupidity.
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
More of a rant, really, but people writing 'think' instead of 'thing' and 'loose' instead of 'lose' always grinds my gears.
Are you talking about children or adults ??
What hope is there for society ? I was actually going to say "First World Society" but thats maybe being generous.
My own gripe for today is cyclists.
Firstly cycle paths are not fucking racetracks which is what i told the stupid oversized Dickhead on my way home this evening.
Secondly you steer the bike with the handlebars to avoid oncoming cyclists.Why is that so difficult ??
What is the problem with all these idiot Dickheads ??
Forgive the language but i fucking hate all these Morons i have to share space with.I just have utter contempt for them all and the less i have to come into contact with them the happier i am.I am surrounded by idiots.
>:( >:(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:23:02 PMQuote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 06:16:43 PMHow frightening a revelation would that be?
Fairly, considering she's been dead these last seventeen years.
Eyethangkew.
Compared to the fact that your gran is on a comics forum pretending to be Cartman and pops up on the forum's chat telling people about their recent tricky bowel movement or frenzied act of onanism, finding out this is all done from beyond the grave seems like small beans. Still a mystery worth solving - send for Scooby Doo.
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 06:37:48 PMQuote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
I suppose the problem is they don't get flagged in spellcheckers so a typo can sneak in - I know I keep typing "form" instead of "from" (its all in the timing of the switch from left to right hand when typing), but I know I do this more often than I should and now check carefully for it.
No excuse for mixing "their" and "they're" though ;)
The only excuse is stupidity.
Which is no excuse at all,
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 06:47:01 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 06:47:01 PM
I'm sorry to disappoint the consensus here, but it's actually "you've got another think coming."
As in "I spent my hard-earned wages buying you those trainers and you go out and get them all scuffed up. Well, if you think I am going to buy you another pair when you've ruined them then you've got another think coming."
Think Again, as Johnny Ball would have it in the sequel to his excellent science and maths for kids television series, Think of a Number.
As in "I spent my hard-earned wages buying you those trainers and you go out and get them all scuffed up. Well, if you think I am going to buy you another pair when you've ruined them then you've got another think coming."
Think Again, as Johnny Ball would have it in the sequel to his excellent science and maths for kids television series, Think of a Number.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 06:47:01 PM
I'm sorry to disappoint the consensus here, but it's actually "you've got another think coming."
As in "I spent my hard-earned wages buying you those trainers and you go out and get them all scuffed up. Well, if you think I am going to buy you another pair when you've ruined them then you've got another think coming."
Think Again, as Johnny Ball would have it in the sequel to his excellent science and maths for kids television series, Think of a Number.
Thank you Mr Usher, I was about to say as much, but feared picking up another ignorer for my impertinence.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 06:56:35 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
More of a rant, really, but people writing 'think' instead of 'thing' and 'loose' instead of 'lose' always grinds my gears.
Mind you, I don't suppose getting words mixed up really appeals to anybody. It's just unappealing to you and most right-thinking people.
One that makes me roll my eyes is when I see the past tense of the verb to lead given as 'lead,' which is a metal. As any fule no, the past participle of to lead is 'led.'
Also, there's a different between 'lent' (he lent me five quid) and 'leant' (he leant against the farmer's gate.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 09 August, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
Thank God for HoU! I was scrolling down those posts wondering if anyone was going to stand up for "think" - began to wonder if I'd been wrong all these years, possibly even anonymously winding up Radiator at some point (in a freaky cosmic coincidence).
I have a friend who knows perfectly well, but just stubbornly REFUSES, to get 'lend' and 'borrow' the right way round.
I have a friend who knows perfectly well, but just stubbornly REFUSES, to get 'lend' and 'borrow' the right way round.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Similarly, people who 'itch' themselves, wind me up.
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 07:52:51 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Similarly, people who 'itch' themselves,
.
SBT
:-* :-\
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 07:58:35 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 07:52:51 PMQuote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Similarly, people who 'itch' themselves,
.
SBT
:-* :-\
Oh, you know...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
Post by: radiator on 09 August, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
...As opposed to scratch.
I wasn't 100% convinced about "another think coming" being wrong, but that's interesting to know it's been me in the wrong all this time! :D
I think I've opened a can of worms here! Generally I'm quite relaxed about language/slang etc - it's only really basic, really common stuff that I notice - like loose/lose which I see everywhere these days - or, as I said, in a professional context where I find it quite surprising when people seem incapable of articulating themselves in writing.
I wasn't 100% convinced about "another think coming" being wrong, but that's interesting to know it's been me in the wrong all this time! :D
I think I've opened a can of worms here! Generally I'm quite relaxed about language/slang etc - it's only really basic, really common stuff that I notice - like loose/lose which I see everywhere these days - or, as I said, in a professional context where I find it quite surprising when people seem incapable of articulating themselves in writing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 07:58:35 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 07:52:51 PMQuote from: SmallBlueThing on 09 August, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Similarly, people who 'itch' themselves,
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SBT
:-* :-\
Oh, you know...
I am still none the wiser.
I always thought it was "another thing coming" rather than "think coming" but the way i see it both are acceptable.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 August, 2010, 08:59:58 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 August, 2010, 08:59:58 PM
it's definitely another THINK coming. It's one of my pet hates when people get it wrong. Like people saying brought when they mean bought, or saying someone is a MIND of knowledge instead of MINE. Thick sods...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
The use of "of" for the contracted form of have. As in: "I would of thought everyone knew it was another think coming." Just about understandable for some American accents where it sounds like that but never acceptable.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 09:04:13 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
I am still none the wiser.
You don't itch yourself. Insect bites or the tag in the back of your t-shirt do that. You scratch an itch.
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
The use of "of" for the contracted form of have. As in: "I would of thought everyone knew it was another think coming." Just about understandable for some American accents where it sounds like that but never acceptable.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
It may seem sad, but it won't surprise anyone in the least: that passes for entertainment in my house. Saying 'bored of' with emphasis, saying 'wot' instead of that, ('the coat wot I wore last summer'), and the phrase 'from off of' when referring to TV personalities.
My sister-in-law really irked me once by correcting her child to say 'TV' instead of 'telly.' Why should one say either when it's properly a television? I say 'let your child call it a telly if he wishes, Madam.'
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 09:04:13 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
I am still none the wiser.
You don't itch yourself. Insect bites or the tag in the back of your t-shirt do that. You scratch an itch.
It was so obvious now you have pointed it out.I was actually baffled because i thought how the hell do you itch yourself ?
Apologies for being so slow.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
Post by: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
Can I arks something!!!
Aaa horrible
Aaa horrible
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PM
Post by: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PM
...straight anal sex?!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PM
Quote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PMNot tonight luv. I've got an 'eadache.
...straight anal sex?!
But no. I've never seen the appeal.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 09 August, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 09 August, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
Quote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PM
...straight anal sex?!
Women love it...
Well you started it.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PMQuote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PMNot tonight luv. I've got an 'eadache.
...straight anal sex?!
But no. I've never seen the appeal.
:lol:
And likewise.
with Ice Cream i either pay up for Haagendaaz or anything else that is expensive or wait until its on special offer or two for one.Cheap ice cream is just horrible.Just read the ingredients of it for yourself.
Its really not hard to make your own if you have a freezer and a large mixing bowl.Also if you dont want to eat full fat milk and cream and eggs you can used skimmed milk only which makes it more like Sorbet which is lovely in itself.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 10:23:36 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PMQuote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PMNot tonight luv. I've got an 'eadache.
...straight anal sex?!
But no. I've never seen the appeal.
We've been here before. There was a legendary thread about it. I think opinion was divided fairly evenly between can see the appeal and can't, but I don't think it would be good form to start a poll on the subject.
Anyway, icecream...
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
with Ice Cream i either pay up for Haagendaaz or anything else that is expensive or wait until its on special offer or two for one.Cheap ice cream is just horrible.Just read the ingredients of it for yourself.
Yep. Premium icecream at economy prices is the best. :)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 10:24:31 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 10:24:31 PM
Maybe you could all take a hint from today's discussioning and use ice cream in conjunction with anal sex and apply it to the afflicted areas in the post coil-tal proceedings.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
Post by: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PMI always thought it was "another thing coming" rather than "think coming" but the way i see it both are acceptable.
Apparently not, which is news to me:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/another-think-coming.html
Quote from: House of Usher on 09 August, 2010, 10:23:36 PMQuote from: The Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PMQuote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PMNot tonight luv. I've got an 'eadache.
...straight anal sex?!
But no. I've never seen the appeal.
We've been here before. There was a legendary thread about it. I think opinion was divided fairly evenly between can see the appeal and can't, but I don't think it would be good form to start a poll on the subject.
In fact, it'd be a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
Quote from: Emperor on 09 August, 2010, 10:59:12 PMQuote from: Peter Wolf on 09 August, 2010, 08:51:54 PMI always thought it was "another thing coming" rather than "think coming" but the way i see it both are acceptable.
Apparently not, which is news to me:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/another-think-coming.html
"Another reason that 'thing' is incorrect, and perhaps this should have come first, is that 'another thing coming' makes no sense. How can one have another thing coming where there is no first thing? In order for 'thing' to make any sense we would have to say 'if you thing that, you have another thing coming', or 'if you think that, you have a thing coming'. Nobody says either of these. Case proven, in my humble opinion.
Please, if you are thinking of emailing in support of 'another thing coming', have another think and then gather your evidence. "
"If you think the life of a movie star is all sunshine and flowers you've got another thing coming."
I totally disagree that the "Thing" version makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense because instead of your thought or idea being not what you are expecting for whatever reason then interchange the thought or idea with say an object or an experience then the "Think" becomes "Thing" - an unspecific object or experience or whatever and it makes perfect sense.
Prefixing the phrase with "If you think" isnt the only way to use the phrase as you can prefix it with "If you have got" instead then using "Thing" instead of "Think" makes perfect grammatical sense and since English is an evolving language then there is nothing incorrect about saying "You have got another thing coming".
Thats the weakness in the authors argument about it being incorrect as the author is only using a particular grammatical context to make his point.
There is no need to have "another think" about this or gather evidence despite the i am right- everyone else is wrong authoritative attitude of the author of the article.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 August, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
One life I'm gonna live it up
I'm takin' flight I said I'll never get enough
Stand tall I'm young and kinda proud
I'm on top as long as the music's loud
If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by
You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You've got another thing comin'
That's right here's where the talkin' ends
Well listen this night there'll be some action spent
Drive hard I'm callin' all the shots
I got an ace card comin' down on the rocks
If you think I'll sit around while you chip away my brain
Listen I ain't foolin' and you'd better think again
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You got another thing comin'
In this world we're livin' in we have our share of sorrow
Answer now is don't give in aim for a new tomorrow
Oh so hot no time to take a rest yeah
Act tough ain't room for second best
Real strong got me some security
Hey I'm a big smash I'm goin' for infinity yeah
If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by
You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You've got another thing comin'
I'm takin' flight I said I'll never get enough
Stand tall I'm young and kinda proud
I'm on top as long as the music's loud
If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by
You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You've got another thing comin'
That's right here's where the talkin' ends
Well listen this night there'll be some action spent
Drive hard I'm callin' all the shots
I got an ace card comin' down on the rocks
If you think I'll sit around while you chip away my brain
Listen I ain't foolin' and you'd better think again
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You got another thing comin'
In this world we're livin' in we have our share of sorrow
Answer now is don't give in aim for a new tomorrow
Oh so hot no time to take a rest yeah
Act tough ain't room for second best
Real strong got me some security
Hey I'm a big smash I'm goin' for infinity yeah
If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by
You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You've got another thing comin'
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Emperor on 10 August, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Post by: Emperor on 10 August, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K7CNzFhnCE
If the Priest is wrong then the world ain't right.
Remember:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxLGSMtqtM
If the Priest is wrong then the world ain't right.
Remember:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxLGSMtqtM
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 10 August, 2010, 12:11:31 AM
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 10 August, 2010, 12:11:31 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 09 August, 2010, 10:02:34 PMQuote from: zombemybabynow on 09 August, 2010, 09:53:32 PMNot tonight luv. I've got an 'eadache.
...straight anal sex?!
But no. I've never seen the appeal.
Especially if she is standing there wearing a 12"strapon. :lol:
filip
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 August, 2010, 12:56:35 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 10 August, 2010, 12:56:35 PM
"It's a BIG ASK"
No. "It's a big thing to ask".
People on the BBC say this. Not just idiots they interview but presenters and pundits and all sorts. (Admittedly mostly in football programs)
No. "It's a big thing to ask".
People on the BBC say this. Not just idiots they interview but presenters and pundits and all sorts. (Admittedly mostly in football programs)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Having long hair (as in ponytail length) past the age of 17 if you're a boy.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Haircuts.
On the other hand, all who sport ponytails are in league with Satan and should not be trusted.
On the other hand, all who sport ponytails are in league with Satan and should not be trusted.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Haircuts.
On the other hand, all who sport ponytails are in league with Satan and should not be trusted.
Mmmm...
<puts M.I.K. and Godpleton on The List>
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
See?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Having long hair (as in ponytail length) past the age of 17 if you're a boy.
Amend that to 30 and I'll go along with it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:24:58 PM
Mmm...
<House of Usher...>
<House of Usher...>
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 October, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 October, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
Ignore Rog - he's had a phobia of long hair ever since Justin Lee Collins made him look like a fool on tv.
Conan.
Aron Ralston.
Chuck Norris.
Steven Seagal before he was eaten by a fat and insane Steven Seagal impersonator.
Long hair equals manliness+9000.
Conan.
Aron Ralston.
Chuck Norris.
Steven Seagal before he was eaten by a fat and insane Steven Seagal impersonator.
Long hair equals manliness+9000.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
clements got a pony tail by any chance?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
clements got a pony tail by any chance?
You looking to go on The List too..?
QuoteLong hair equals manliness+9000.
And that, my friends, has just been proven by motherfucking science.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 October, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 08 October, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
In Jim's defence, being accused of being uncool by a hairy overweight sheep-botherer whose audience consists entirely of people indoors on a Friday night watching Channel Four would confuse anyone, but on the flipside he had a chance to punch Collins in the face and did not do so. This is unforgivable.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 08 October, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 08 October, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 08 October, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
In Jim's defence, being accused of being uncool by a hairy overweight sheep-botherer whose audience consists entirely of people indoors on a Friday night watching Channel Four would confuse anyone, but on the flipside he had a chance to punch Collins in the face and did not do so. This is unforgivable.
That sounds like a tale worth re-telling: "James and the Giant Prick"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 03:05:16 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 08 October, 2010, 02:39:01 PMQuote from: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
clements got a pony tail by any chance?
You looking to go on The List too..?QuoteLong hair equals manliness+9000.
And that, my friends, has just been proven by motherfucking science.
no,not at all,i am trying to grow mine the short back and sides is for the unadventerous!
just had to have a reboot :(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Quote from: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 03:05:16 PM
no,not at all,i am trying to grow mine the short back and sides is for the unadventerous!
just had to have a reboot :(
The short back and sides is awesomely sexy - you just need to have a big floppy fringe to go with it, or else a bit of hair product and a centre parting:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 08 October, 2010, 03:45:25 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 08 October, 2010, 03:45:25 PM
bitta slap and that could become a mighty quiff
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 04:01:14 PM
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 October, 2010, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
The short back and sides is awesomely sexy - you just need to have a big floppy fringe to go with it, or else a bit of hair product and a centre parting:
You frighten me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 08 October, 2010, 04:14:40 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 08 October, 2010, 04:14:40 PM
Gaaa! Going straight, no thanks. Until they force me to.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 October, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 October, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 08 October, 2010, 04:14:40 PMYeah! You stay gay and proud man.
Gaaa! Going straight, no thanks. Until they force me to.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 08 October, 2010, 05:13:47 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 08 October, 2010, 05:13:47 PM
Back in your corner you.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 October, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 08 October, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 03:27:41 PMTerry Christian's looking good.Quote from: mogzilla on 08 October, 2010, 03:05:16 PMThe short back and sides is awesomely sexy - you just need to have a big floppy fringe to go with it, or else a bit of hair product and a centre parting:
no,not at all,i am trying to grow mine the short back and sides is for the unadventerous!
just had to have a reboot :(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 10:52:06 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 10:52:06 PM
In case you're wondering what Brian with a Y is gibbering on about, he's referring to "The Friday Night Project", which in its first series was presented by Jimmy Carr and not Justin Lee Collins.
I was in the Prince Edward Cinema one night in 2005 and a fellow showed up saying he was from the aforementioned show and that he was recording an item in which the "gang" was attempting to break some record for most people swearing or whatever. Instead of shouting swear words on cue I opted to shout "Jimmy Carr isn't funny" to the very minor ire of some people.
I should explain that at the age of 17 I did have long hair because I thought it was cool. I also thought Iron Maiden were one of the best bands ever at that age which illustrates how silly I was.
My hair gets ridiculously curly (borderline "nappy") at a certain length and it also gets uncomfortably frizzy in summer so short it shall stay.
I was in the Prince Edward Cinema one night in 2005 and a fellow showed up saying he was from the aforementioned show and that he was recording an item in which the "gang" was attempting to break some record for most people swearing or whatever. Instead of shouting swear words on cue I opted to shout "Jimmy Carr isn't funny" to the very minor ire of some people.
I should explain that at the age of 17 I did have long hair because I thought it was cool. I also thought Iron Maiden were one of the best bands ever at that age which illustrates how silly I was.
My hair gets ridiculously curly (borderline "nappy") at a certain length and it also gets uncomfortably frizzy in summer so short it shall stay.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
I am 17 and I have long hair. I don't really think I am cool though, I just think I look slightly less awful with it, also it saves the effort of having it cut. A local barber has taken to offering a free beer with every haircut. I think there are gonna be plenty of shaven heads round here soon (more I should say)
Also can't say I am a massive Maiden fan... ;)
Also can't say I am a massive Maiden fan... ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 08 October, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 10:52:06 PM
I also thought Iron Maiden were one of the best bands ever at that age which illustrates how silly I was.
Wow. And now you read Proust. Leaps and bounds. You've overtaken me. You knew that.
QuoteMy hair gets ridiculously curly (borderline "nappy") at a certain length and it also gets uncomfortably frizzy in summer so short it shall stay.
My hair's like that. Having long hair for 20 years was very high maintenance.
Quote from: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
it saves the effort of having it cut
Not to mention the expense. Saved me £2,000 over two decades. It costs me £15 to get it cut nowadays. Worth every penny (thanks, Josie!)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 11:12:49 PM
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 11:12:49 PM
Yeah, isn't bloody cheap to have it done. Most money now I have decided must go towards thrill-power or other such things.
I really need mine trimming though. Its at the point where I am trapping it on stuff. When I lie down in bed I can pin myself down by my own head and shoulders(heh). It hurts :lol:
I really need mine trimming though. Its at the point where I am trapping it on stuff. When I lie down in bed I can pin myself down by my own head and shoulders(heh). It hurts :lol:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 October, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
Post by: Spaceghost on 08 October, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
I've got barber-shy friends and everything but I have to come clean, I think it looks really bad. Long hair on men is bad enough but men with pony tails? If you're going to tie it back to stop it getting in your face, JUST GET IT CUT. Having long hair isn't cool, it's not as if it's skillful to not get your hair cut. And don't get me started on white men with dreadlocks. Worse than fucking tories. PS. I'd like to pre-book the rant get-out clause by admitting that I've drunk a bottle of wine.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Post by: SquashedFly on 08 October, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 08 October, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
I've drunk a bottle of wine.
All is forgiven.
Long hair may look bad on me, but with me short is even worse. The lesser of two evils is the way I see it. :P
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Professor Bear on 09 October, 2010, 12:39:30 AM
Post by: Professor Bear on 09 October, 2010, 12:39:30 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 08 October, 2010, 10:52:06 PMI also thought Iron Maiden were one of the best bands ever at that age which illustrates how silly I was.
I like about three songs from their oeuvre and thus cannot describe myself as a fan, but I'll give them this: they can not only get away with waving a Union flag in the faces of a Dublin audience and walk away alive, they get fucking cheered for doing it. That is pretty awesome whether you like their music or not.
QuoteMy hair gets ridiculously curly (borderline "nappy") at a certain length and it also gets uncomfortably frizzy in summer so short it shall stay.
Seriously, I'm not even talking about long hair specifically here, but most adults - even bald ones - should have a grasp of how shampoo and hairbrushes work.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 October, 2010, 12:41:35 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 October, 2010, 12:41:35 AM
I wash my hair every night.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 October, 2010, 01:13:12 AM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 October, 2010, 01:13:12 AM
Quote
Apparently not, which is news to me:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/another-think-coming.html
I've often wondered about that. So much so that i've never used the phrase out of insecurity and fear of ridicule.
That said, I have a ponytail on the top, having re-grown long hair after 13 years of shortness (though it's been purple and blue within that period). I think I'm fucking awesome.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 October, 2010, 01:16:58 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 09 October, 2010, 01:16:58 AM
Well, seeing as how I'm Godpleton, my confirmed solipsism negates your inferred solipsism, so it turns out that you think wrong.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 October, 2010, 01:23:47 AM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 09 October, 2010, 01:23:47 AM
Touche. Please don't go to sleep, I'll disappear.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 13 October, 2010, 05:24:43 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 13 October, 2010, 05:24:43 PM
I rather like men with long hair. Men with hair in general. Well. Men. You're all rather smashing.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 13 October, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 13 October, 2010, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 13 October, 2010, 05:24:43 PM
I rather like men with long hair. Men with hair in general. Well. Men. You're all rather smashing.
we know ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 October, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 13 October, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Raisins. They're just grapes that have gone a bit foosty.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mardroid on 13 October, 2010, 07:43:36 PM
Post by: Mardroid on 13 October, 2010, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 13 October, 2010, 05:24:43 PM
I rather like men with long hair. Men with hair in general. Well. Men. You're all rather smashing.
After getting a bit carried away with a shaver recently*, I was starting to feel left out when reading those first two sentences. The end bit highlighted made me feel all better though.
*I'm slightly embarrassed by my shiny head, I've taken to wearing a hat when anyone can see. I'm thinning on top, so I look better with short hair, but not this short! (I suspect I'm just not used to it though. I don't usually think other baldish men look bad.) I hope they don't mind my hat in the job interview on Friday. Royal mail interviews tend to be pretty informal so I doubt they will.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Something Fishy on 13 October, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
Post by: Something Fishy on 13 October, 2010, 09:05:50 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 13 October, 2010, 05:24:43 PM
I rather like men with long hair. Men with hair in general. Well. Men. You're all rather smashing.
Well that's very nice. Thank you.
I'd happily say the say about our female friends too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 October, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 October, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
On the subject of hair, I had one of those "you know you're getting old when..." moments last week. Had a haircut and noticed the barber was actually shaving my ears, lobes, rim, the lot. He never used to have to do that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 13 October, 2010, 10:02:49 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 13 October, 2010, 10:02:49 PM
Ive never had a barber "shave my rim"! Was it nice? :o
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mardroid on 13 October, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Post by: Mardroid on 13 October, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 13 October, 2010, 10:02:49 PM
Ive never had a barber "shave my rim"! Was it nice? :o
Snigger. A reinterpretation of the phrase "short back and sides.".
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 October, 2010, 11:47:53 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 13 October, 2010, 11:47:53 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 13 October, 2010, 10:14:32 PMQuote from: SmallBlueThing on 13 October, 2010, 10:02:49 PM
Ive never had a barber "shave my rim"! Was it nice? :o
Snigger. A reinterpretation of the phrase "short back and sides.".
::) tssk, I'm going to stop telling you people things.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 12:58:58 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 October, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Raisins. They're just grapes that have gone a bit foosty.
Fresh grapes on branflakes are not quite the same though. They aren't much cop in scones and rock cakes either. Or in baking generally, come to that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 October, 2010, 01:02:50 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 October, 2010, 01:02:50 PM
...Alchohol. It's just vile and makes you feel like shit the next morning. Give me an apple juice or nice cup of tea any day.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:15:52 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 14 October, 2010, 01:02:50 PM
...Alchohol. It's just vile and makes you feel like shit the next morning. Give me an apple juice or nice cup of tea any day.
:-X
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 14 October, 2010, 01:35:43 PM
Post by: radiator on 14 October, 2010, 01:35:43 PM
...Surround Sound in movies.
I just don't get it at all - to me it's just distracting, rather than immersive, to have noises behind you - my brain doesn't automatically equate it with what is going on onscreen and I often get the urge to look behind me to see what is making the noise.
With games - especially ones played from a first or third person perspective - it makes more sense to me, as you are actually projecting yourself into a 3d space, but with movies it isn't the same - just give me decent stereo sound any day!
Ironically I used to sell expensive TV and sound systems for a living, and I had to lie through my teeth all day long because I think surround sound is pointless and LCD TVs are crap!
I just don't get it at all - to me it's just distracting, rather than immersive, to have noises behind you - my brain doesn't automatically equate it with what is going on onscreen and I often get the urge to look behind me to see what is making the noise.
With games - especially ones played from a first or third person perspective - it makes more sense to me, as you are actually projecting yourself into a 3d space, but with movies it isn't the same - just give me decent stereo sound any day!
Ironically I used to sell expensive TV and sound systems for a living, and I had to lie through my teeth all day long because I think surround sound is pointless and LCD TVs are crap!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:37:51 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:37:51 PM
Vibrating video games controllers.
It doesn't make the game any easier to play when the controller is trying to jump out of your hand. It also puts the wind up me.
It doesn't make the game any easier to play when the controller is trying to jump out of your hand. It also puts the wind up me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 October, 2010, 01:39:33 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 14 October, 2010, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:37:51 PM
Vibrating video games controllers.
It doesn't make the game any easier to play when the controller is trying to jump out of your hand. It also puts the wind up me.
It does though!
Helps massively in driving games, for example.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:41:07 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 14 October, 2010, 01:41:07 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 14 October, 2010, 01:39:33 PM
It does though!
Helps massively in driving games, for example.
I don't think I'm ever likely to be playing a driving game unless it's Carmageddon.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 October, 2010, 12:02:47 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 October, 2010, 12:02:47 AM
What about Turbo Esprit on the Spectrum?
Or Rez.
Or Rez.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 15 October, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 15 October, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Large chunks of tinned tomatoes in pasta based dishes.
They taste too much like tuna, creating an undercurrent of cognitive dissonance that permeates the whole dish, making you wonder just where the hell is the fucking tuna that you are tasting.
Secondly, and perhaps as a consequence of afore-mentioned cognitive dissonance, you are reminded of the perishibility of tomatoes and begin to query whether or not you are in fact eating Pseudo Penicillin Pasta.
They taste too much like tuna, creating an undercurrent of cognitive dissonance that permeates the whole dish, making you wonder just where the hell is the fucking tuna that you are tasting.
Secondly, and perhaps as a consequence of afore-mentioned cognitive dissonance, you are reminded of the perishibility of tomatoes and begin to query whether or not you are in fact eating Pseudo Penicillin Pasta.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 October, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 15 October, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 15 October, 2010, 12:02:47 AM
What about Turbo Esprit on the Spectrum?
Or Rez.
Night Driver or Dodge 'Em on the Atari?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
Post by: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
Modern dance music. Who would want to dance to that? Daleks?
Give me guitars.
Give me guitars.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 15 October, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 15 October, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
Modern dance music. Who would want to dance to that? Daleks?
Give me guitars.
This whine is of an excellent vintage: 1987, if I'm not mistaken. Delicious! :lol:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 01:40:32 PM
Post by: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 01:40:32 PM
...indeed. I have a cellar full of the stuff. 100% vol too.
& while I'm here, I also don't understand the appeal of bass guitars with more than four strings & menthol cigarettes.
I don't know if the two are connected.
& while I'm here, I also don't understand the appeal of bass guitars with more than four strings & menthol cigarettes.
I don't know if the two are connected.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Minkyboy on 15 October, 2010, 01:44:27 PM
Post by: Minkyboy on 15 October, 2010, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 01:40:32 PM
...indeed. I have a cellar full of the stuff. 100% vol too.
& while I'm here, I also don't understand the appeal of bass guitars with more than four strings & menthol cigarettes.
I don't know if the two are connected.
My mum smokes menthol fags to try to stop people bumming them off her in the pub.
:-X
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 15 October, 2010, 04:29:43 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 15 October, 2010, 04:29:43 PM
Isn't a bass guitar with more than 4 strings a guitar?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 October, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 15 October, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: exilewood on 15 October, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
Modern dance music. Who would want to dance to that? Daleks?
Give me guitars.
Not me !!
I wouldnt want to listen to it either as i cant stand any of it with that moronic 4/4 beat.
*
I dont understand the appeal of buses or BT phone boxes.I had to use both today .I had to slum it by using public transport [a bus] where an ill mannered old person sat next to me or should i say nearly sat on me."Excuse me" he says.I should think so as well as i just about excused his filthy smelly presence.He wouldnt move when i had to get off so i had to sort of step over him instead.
Too many Oiks in a confined space for my liking. :D
The autobiographies of Tony Blair and Peter Mandelslime.
Where is the appeal in that ?
The call box was just as bad and i havent used a call box for god knows how long but god knows when it was cleaned last as it had that distinctive phone box smell inside
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 15 October, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 15 October, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
oi! some of us poor people have to slum it on buses as we cant all drive! know what youmean though had some seriously smelly folk sit nearly on me! its usually the enormous ones in summer in a heatwave who dont know how to use the taps in their house !!!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 18 October, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 18 October, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 15 October, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Large chunks of tinned tomatoes in pasta based dishes.
They taste too much like tuna, creating an undercurrent of cognitive dissonance that permeates the whole dish, making you wonder just where the hell is the fucking tuna that you are tasting.
Secondly, and perhaps as a consequence of afore-mentioned cognitive dissonance, you are reminded of the perishibility of tomatoes and begin to query whether or not you are in fact eating Pseudo Penicillin Pasta.
Concisely put. He's bloody right too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 18 October, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 18 October, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
tomatos that taste of fish?
what the...
what the...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 18 October, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 18 October, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
I can't say I have ever noticed tinned tomatoes tasting of tuna. That said, pasta dishes shouldn't have large chunks of tinned tomato in them anyway. I'd recommend either using tins of ready-chopped tomatoes (now no more expensive than whole tomatoes, when they used to have a significant additional mark-up), or else sticking a handheld blender in the tin and making a puree.
There's no need for a tomato sauce to be bland either with the addition of a vegetable oxo cube, a clove of garlic and a squirt of concentrated tomato puree.
There's no need for a tomato sauce to be bland either with the addition of a vegetable oxo cube, a clove of garlic and a squirt of concentrated tomato puree.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 19 October, 2010, 08:58:43 AM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 19 October, 2010, 08:58:43 AM
What Ush said. A couple of chopped up real tomatoes don't hurt either.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 October, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 19 October, 2010, 06:17:45 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 18 October, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
I can't say I have ever noticed tinned tomatoes tasting of tuna. That said, pasta dishes shouldn't have large chunks of tinned tomato in them anyway. I'd recommend either using tins of ready-chopped tomatoes (now no more expensive than whole tomatoes, when they used to have a significant additional mark-up), or else sticking a handheld blender in the tin and making a puree.
There's no need for a tomato sauce to be bland either with the addition of a vegetable oxo cube, a clove of garlic and a squirt of concentrated tomato puree.
Add a very small amount of lemon juice and a teaspoonful of honey to an italian tomato sauce as it complements it beautifully.
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 15 October, 2010, 03:18:26 AM
Large chunks of tinned tomatoes in pasta based dishes.
They taste too much like tuna, creating an undercurrent of cognitive dissonance that permeates the whole dish, making you wonder just where the hell is the fucking tuna that you are tasting.
Secondly, and perhaps as a consequence of afore-mentioned cognitive dissonance, you are reminded of the perishibility of tomatoes and begin to query whether or not you are in fact eating Pseudo Penicillin Pasta.
I would havethought that the cognitive dissonance would just as likely have you thinking the tomatoes didnt taste of tuna and if i was in that situation i would have been thinking "This doesnt taste of Tuna - this doesnt taste of Tuna - There is nothing wrong - this doesnt taste of tuna...." and so on... as it would have clashed with my existing/pre-existing expectations of what a tomato sauce should taste like .
The two conficting thoughts or reactions shall not be accomodated together and reconciled at any one time or at any time whatsoever.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 November, 2010, 01:06:48 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 01 November, 2010, 01:06:48 PM
...Toby longworth as Dredd. He's a bloody good actor and great at all the other voices, but Dredd - meh.
Everyone who doesn't like dance music has a wrong opinion, by the way. Good dance music, anyway.
Everyone who doesn't like dance music has a wrong opinion, by the way. Good dance music, anyway.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2010, 05:45:16 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 01 November, 2010, 05:45:16 PM
POA/Price on application.
What is the point in this ?
Why the big secret ?
Its pretentious nonsense so why do you need to apply to find out ?
Just tell me the f***ing price.
Dont worry though i cant afford it anyway but it seems a bit pointless.
What is the point in this ?
Why the big secret ?
Its pretentious nonsense so why do you need to apply to find out ?
Just tell me the f***ing price.
Dont worry though i cant afford it anyway but it seems a bit pointless.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 01 November, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 01 November, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
Yoghurt with maize starch in it. The specific product is Asda's 'chosen by you' toffee yoghurt. Why would the public have chosen a yoghurt with the texture of wallpaper paste over something that is obviously dairy?
Horrid stuff. Pleased to say I did not pay full price for it. It was reduced to 13p for individual pots on account of a fast approaching use by date, so I thought I'd give it a go.
Curiosity satisfied.
Horrid stuff. Pleased to say I did not pay full price for it. It was reduced to 13p for individual pots on account of a fast approaching use by date, so I thought I'd give it a go.
Curiosity satisfied.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 November, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 01 November, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Horror.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: The Cosh on 01 November, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
Horror.
Whaaaaaaa!? Do you just mean the grisly torture porny stuff or the genuinely great stuff like Evil Dead aka The Greatest Movie Ever Made? If its the former I'm totally with you, but the humor and invention in something like ED is why I watch the stuff.
On a related note I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2010, 06:12:54 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 02 November, 2010, 06:12:54 PM
Lord Of The Rings
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 November, 2010, 07:38:21 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 November, 2010, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
Neither do I. Which is why I haven't watched any of them.
Weren't you sure after the first couple? ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 08:05:33 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 08:05:33 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 02 November, 2010, 07:38:21 PMQuote from: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
Neither do I. Which is why I haven't watched any of them.
Weren't you sure after the first couple? ;)
You know you'd think I would have been, but there seems to be something about horror sequels that overrides my common sense chip (which performs fairly badly at the best of times)!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 10:33:31 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
On a related note I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
I do. They are really horrible and mean-spirited, but they have very high production values and they are continuity-heavy. Whereas a lot of horror franchises make stuff up as they go along and draw a line under each episode before starting a new one from scratch, the Saw series takes the trouble to incorporate the plot and characters of previous instalments and, through flashbacks and retrospective inserts, explains later developments in terms of the motivations of characters the audience has seen before.
Personally I watch it in the hope of seeing some of the kidnap victims turn the tables on their captors. I remain hopeful.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2010, 11:13:14 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2010, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 10:33:31 AMQuote from: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
On a related note I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
I do. They are really horrible and mean-spirited, but they have very high production values and they are continuity-heavy. Whereas a lot of horror franchises make stuff up as they go along and draw a line under each episode before starting a new one from scratch, the Saw series takes the trouble to incorporate the plot and characters of previous instalments and, through flashbacks and retrospective inserts, explains later developments in terms of the motivations of characters the audience has seen before.
Personally I watch it in the hope of seeing some of the kidnap victims turn the tables on their captors. I remain hopeful.
I think the latest SAW film does something like that or concludes.Not quite sure as i havent watched it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 03 November, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 03 November, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
The Matrix. Yep, the first one.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 02:36:31 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 03 November, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
The Matrix. Yep, the first one.
Naturally. It was a pile of poo, and I wasn't tempted to see any of the sequels.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin Zeal on 03 November, 2010, 04:45:12 PM
Post by: Colin Zeal on 03 November, 2010, 04:45:12 PM
I thought the first Matrix was ok, but nothing more and certainly not worth the hype it got. Saw the 2nd one at the cinema and walked out refusing to even think of ever seeing the third film. Don't think I've missed anything by sticking to that vow.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 03 November, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
The first Matrix film was very clever and very original and it was a complete film in its own right but the next 2 films were superfluous action films that didnt really add an awful lot.
The actual idea of the Matrix itself was brilliant.
The actual idea of the Matrix itself was brilliant.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 03 November, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 02:36:31 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 03 November, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
The Matrix. Yep, the first one.
Naturally. It was a pile of poo, and I wasn't tempted to see any of the sequels.
You both chose the blue pill didn't you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 03 November, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 03 November, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
I chose the orange pill and ended up pissing and shitting myself.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 November, 2010, 09:11:33 PM
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 November, 2010, 09:11:33 PM
That reminds me you never saw them going to the loo in the Matrix. If you knew the bog you were crapping in wasn't real you really couldn't go at all could you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2010, 02:54:24 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 04 November, 2010, 02:54:24 AM
Toilet cuts are essential in all gooood narrative. The Shining for example. In fact, Gutshot missed a trick, in not being set in a mega-city cubicle.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 November, 2010, 04:59:53 AM
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 November, 2010, 04:59:53 AM
Merlin.
Enough with the evil, shifty looks, Morgana, we all know you are the bad guy.
Enough with the evil, shifty looks, Morgana, we all know you are the bad guy.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 04 November, 2010, 08:02:17 AM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 04 November, 2010, 08:02:17 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 03 November, 2010, 10:33:31 AMQuote from: Keef Monkey on 02 November, 2010, 05:54:20 PM
On a related note I don't really get the appeal of Saw movies. And as of today I've watched 7 of them.
I do. They are really horrible and mean-spirited, but they have very high production values and they are continuity-heavy. Whereas a lot of horror franchises make stuff up as they go along and draw a line under each episode before starting a new one from scratch, the Saw series takes the trouble to incorporate the plot and characters of previous instalments and, through flashbacks and retrospective inserts, explains later developments in terms of the motivations of characters the audience has seen before.
Personally I watch it in the hope of seeing some of the kidnap victims turn the tables on their captors. I remain hopeful.
I think you've just nailed why I've sat through them all. Mind you I always find the way it frantically tries to tie everything together into something meaningful always seems a bit forced and desperate. But yeah, once you've invested in one of a series that's got a narrative like that I guess I'm just compelled to soldier on.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2010, 06:18:47 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 04 November, 2010, 06:18:47 PM
Kites and Kite flying.Watch it spin round and round and up and down.
Boring.
Personalised number plates.They are just a way of advertising that the driver of the car is a Twat and a jumped up nobody trying to be somebody.
Oh look the 5 looks like an S !
Everybody look at me ! I have an expensive car with a personalised number plate ! I am important !!
The recession has bitten deep enough for my liking and its not putting a stop to enough of that nonsense.
Boring.
Personalised number plates.They are just a way of advertising that the driver of the car is a Twat and a jumped up nobody trying to be somebody.
Oh look the 5 looks like an S !
Everybody look at me ! I have an expensive car with a personalised number plate ! I am important !!
The recession has bitten deep enough for my liking and its not putting a stop to enough of that nonsense.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 04 November, 2010, 07:38:37 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 04 November, 2010, 07:38:37 PM
On the subject of Merlin. You can see why Uther wants rid of magic as week in week out someone or something uses magic to do the damage. Whats wrong with a good old gutfest, with the flailing swords etc. I have to put up with the drivel because the missus likes it.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 08:13:56 PM
As far as Merlin goes, Uthers attitude to magic is the old 'if you outlaw blank then the only people with...' phrase. Stands to reason that there must be some good practitioners other than Merlin out they are hiding their powers for fear of arrest. I think this is where they are likely going to go with the whole thing. I think they are rather stuck with having magical antagonists though, since Merlin has to save the day and for him to use his magic against non-magical villains might be seen as unfair/cheating/not heroic. Just a thought.
And the Morgana is evil plot would be so much better if Katie McGrath could act. Some have said that she suffers in comparison to the quality around her but in all honesty she'd struggle to hold her own in a primary school nativity as far as I can see. Woeful, and I don't even get the whole 'Oh, isn't she gorgeous' thing either so I don't even have that to console me.
I do like the show though, for what it is.
The Saw films work for me for exactly the reasons set out above, although I've only watched the first 3 so I'm a bit behind. Can people settle an argument for me? I sussed the twist of the first one within minutes and thought it was a bit naff but the lads I've spoken to rave about it. I'm not trying to sound clever, I'll freely admit that the end of the 2nd one completely took me in, but I really can't see what was so clever about the first.
Anyone? Was the first twist a shocker and I had a rare moment of genius or was it as duff as I thought and I just have thick mates?
And the Morgana is evil plot would be so much better if Katie McGrath could act. Some have said that she suffers in comparison to the quality around her but in all honesty she'd struggle to hold her own in a primary school nativity as far as I can see. Woeful, and I don't even get the whole 'Oh, isn't she gorgeous' thing either so I don't even have that to console me.
I do like the show though, for what it is.
The Saw films work for me for exactly the reasons set out above, although I've only watched the first 3 so I'm a bit behind. Can people settle an argument for me? I sussed the twist of the first one within minutes and thought it was a bit naff but the lads I've spoken to rave about it. I'm not trying to sound clever, I'll freely admit that the end of the 2nd one completely took me in, but I really can't see what was so clever about the first.
Anyone? Was the first twist a shocker and I had a rare moment of genius or was it as duff as I thought and I just have thick mates?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 04 November, 2010, 08:58:58 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 04 November, 2010, 08:58:58 PM
I didn't guess it, and it BLEW MY MIND.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2010, 09:01:08 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 04 November, 2010, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 08:13:56 PM
Anyone? Was the first twist a shocker and I had a rare moment of genius or was it as duff as I thought and I just have thick mates?
You mean did I suss that [spoiler]the dead guy in the room wasn't dead all along[/spoiler]? I can't remember.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mardroid on 04 November, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
Post by: Mardroid on 04 November, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Ratty on 04 November, 2010, 04:59:53 AM
Merlin.
Enough with the evil, shifty looks, Morgana, we all know you are the bad guy.
I like Merlin. But I do agree with that comment concerning Morgana.
Also, didn't she turn evil a bit too quickly? She showed small signs of selfishness last series, but she was basically good. Now she's all out evil, even attempting to kill people who haven't done her any harm. It's a shame they didn't show a bit more complexity to the character this series like they did in the past rather than going for the pantomime evil.
Mind you, we don't know what she's been through with Morgause for a year or so, but even so.
QuoteI don't even get the whole 'Oh, isn't she gorgeous' thing either so I don't even have that to console me.
See, despite the silliness of the evil looks and smirks I DO think she's gorgeous. So maybe that helps. Despite my comment, (and I stand by it and think they should tone down the evil looks) she does make a hot villain. A bit more moral dimension to match her physical dimensions would be nice though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 November, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 November, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 08:13:56 PM
Was the first twist a shocker and I had a rare moment of genius or was it as duff as I thought and I just have thick mates?
I'd like to be able to say I guessed it, but it completely took me in - perhaps because I didn't realise there would necessarily be a twist, so wasn't really looking out for one. I'm afraid I was one of those poeple raving about how clever it was afterwards.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 04 November, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
To answer Ush, yeah thats the one I meant. After Jimbos comment I'm trying to think back to remember whether I knew there was a twist coming before watching, which I suppose would dilute the achievment of figuring it out. I can't remember though.
That said, I still think the second was much cleverer and that one did get me, as I say, even though at that point I obviously was expecting a twist. So kudos to them for that.
That said, I still think the second was much cleverer and that one did get me, as I say, even though at that point I obviously was expecting a twist. So kudos to them for that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 10 November, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
Post by: radiator on 10 November, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
....buying stuff purely for the sake of it.
My brother in law really worries me in this respect - he is always buying the latest gadgets and games, but seems to enjoy the act of owning things more than actually using them. He owns myriad consoles and games but I know for a fact that he doesn't actually play the games he buys - just mucks around with them for half an hour before putting them back on the shelf. Last year he bought Modern Warfare 2 on both Xbox and PS3 (they are identical games), and was unable to give me a decent reason why.
He also blows silly amounts of money on stuff like mountain bikes, underwater cameras and guitars, which generally just end up in the garage. He's always looking for excuses to blow money on some gadget or other (I got some photos framed for him recently and he started on about buying a new power drill so he could hang them!), and is constantly posting about his latest purchases on facebook (which is actually a fairly transparent way of boasting imo), as if doing so somehow validates or reinforces his existence. He tends to spend most of his free time browsing Play.com/Amazon etc, planning his next purchase - and also spoils his son absolutely rotten with insanely pricey gifts.
All in all it concerns me a great deal, because AFAIK he doesn't earn a huge amount of money, so I do sometimes wonder where it's coming from...
Is there a word for this sort of behaviour? Shopoholicism?
My brother in law really worries me in this respect - he is always buying the latest gadgets and games, but seems to enjoy the act of owning things more than actually using them. He owns myriad consoles and games but I know for a fact that he doesn't actually play the games he buys - just mucks around with them for half an hour before putting them back on the shelf. Last year he bought Modern Warfare 2 on both Xbox and PS3 (they are identical games), and was unable to give me a decent reason why.
He also blows silly amounts of money on stuff like mountain bikes, underwater cameras and guitars, which generally just end up in the garage. He's always looking for excuses to blow money on some gadget or other (I got some photos framed for him recently and he started on about buying a new power drill so he could hang them!), and is constantly posting about his latest purchases on facebook (which is actually a fairly transparent way of boasting imo), as if doing so somehow validates or reinforces his existence. He tends to spend most of his free time browsing Play.com/Amazon etc, planning his next purchase - and also spoils his son absolutely rotten with insanely pricey gifts.
All in all it concerns me a great deal, because AFAIK he doesn't earn a huge amount of money, so I do sometimes wonder where it's coming from...
Is there a word for this sort of behaviour? Shopoholicism?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 10 November, 2010, 12:42:16 PM
Post by: Mikey on 10 November, 2010, 12:42:16 PM
Would 'external validation' fit the bill, Radiator? The 'must have' gadget thing I don't get either - well, people who buy them just to have them, I've no problem with genuine tech geeks who know how to use the bloody things.
M.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 November, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
....buying stuff purely for the sake of it.
My brother in law really worries me in this respect - he is always buying the latest gadgets and games, but seems to enjoy the act of owning things more than actually using them. He owns myriad consoles and games but I know for a fact that he doesn't actually play the games he buys - just mucks around with them for half an hour before putting them back on the shelf. Last year he bought Modern Warfare 2 on both Xbox and PS3 (they are identical games), and was unable to give me a decent reason why.
He also blows silly amounts of money on stuff like mountain bikes, underwater cameras and guitars, which generally just end up in the garage. He's always looking for excuses to blow money on some gadget or other (I got some photos framed for him recently and he started on about buying a new power drill so he could hang them!), and is constantly posting about his latest purchases on facebook (which is actually a fairly transparent way of boasting imo), as if doing so somehow validates or reinforces his existence. He tends to spend most of his free time browsing Play.com/Amazon etc, planning his next purchase - and also spoils his son absolutely rotten with insanely pricey gifts.
All in all it concerns me a great deal, because AFAIK he doesn't earn a huge amount of money, so I do sometimes wonder where it's coming from...
Is there a word for this sort of behaviour? Shopoholicism?
Or Impulse buying.
Compulsive behaviour.
My sister spent 50,000 on stuff and 15,000 was credit.
::)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 10 November, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 10 November, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 10 November, 2010, 07:01:16 PMQuote from: radiator on 10 November, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
....buying stuff purely for the sake of it.
My brother in law really worries me in this respect - he is always buying the latest gadgets and games, but seems to enjoy the act of owning things more than actually using them. He owns myriad consoles and games but I know for a fact that he doesn't actually play the games he buys - just mucks around with them for half an hour before putting them back on the shelf. Last year he bought Modern Warfare 2 on both Xbox and PS3 (they are identical games), and was unable to give me a decent reason why.
He also blows silly amounts of money on stuff like mountain bikes, underwater cameras and guitars, which generally just end up in the garage. He's always looking for excuses to blow money on some gadget or other (I got some photos framed for him recently and he started on about buying a new power drill so he could hang them!), and is constantly posting about his latest purchases on facebook (which is actually a fairly transparent way of boasting imo), as if doing so somehow validates or reinforces his existence. He tends to spend most of his free time browsing Play.com/Amazon etc, planning his next purchase - and also spoils his son absolutely rotten with insanely pricey gifts.
All in all it concerns me a great deal, because AFAIK he doesn't earn a huge amount of money, so I do sometimes wonder where it's coming from...
Is there a word for this sort of behaviour? Shopoholicism?
Or Impulse buying.
Compulsive behaviour.
My sister spent 50,000 on stuff and 15,000 was credit.
::)
I once worked with a girl who blew her entire student loan on a £2000 handbag at the start of her course. The bag was hideous too.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: davethomson on 10 November, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
Post by: davethomson on 10 November, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 10 November, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
I once worked with a girl who blew her entire student loan on a £2000 handbag at the start of her course. The bag was hideous too.
Sounds exactly like the Fashion and Performing Arts students at my old college. Didn't take 2 days of Freshers week before they were turning up in other peoples flats in magnificent shoes and dresses begging for a few tins of beans and some pasta.
That said, it's not just students that are poor with loans. In my second year I lived next to some ex-hoods from Glasgow, one of which managed to wangle a £5000 loan. One month later and all they had to show for it was a stolen fireplace they bought off a local gypsy girl. The rest they blew on cocaine, which I imagine they intended to deal but ended up snorting it all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 12 November, 2010, 02:46:29 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 12 November, 2010, 02:46:29 PM
Your brother might be feeling a bit low. Buying stuff gives you a little burst of pleasure but it soon fades and you need to buy more.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
....Digital photo frames.
I can understand why someone thought they'd be a good idea in theory, but honestly they're just awful aren't they?
Silly, impractical waste of time.
I can understand why someone thought they'd be a good idea in theory, but honestly they're just awful aren't they?
Silly, impractical waste of time.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
loose women.
I'm mean, jeeeez.
I'm mean, jeeeez.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 November, 2010, 05:21:42 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 November, 2010, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 05:10:25 PM
loose women.
I'm mean, jeeeez.
If you man the TV program, then I'm with you 100%. If you mean loose women in general then I'm all for 'em!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
oh the tv show for sure, not enough of the other imho
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 12 November, 2010, 05:26:38 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 12 November, 2010, 05:26:38 PM
I quite fancy a couple of the Loose Women.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2010, 05:39:06 PM
Post by: radiator on 12 November, 2010, 05:39:06 PM
For God's sake man don't say Carol McGiffen or that bloody Nolan woman.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 12 November, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
Post by: Paul faplad Finch on 12 November, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
Okay, I won't say Carol McGiffen
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 12 November, 2010, 08:52:20 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 12 November, 2010, 08:52:20 PM
Loose women. Utter tosh.
If they made a program called loose men and had a load of gas bagging men slagging off women like they do men then it would be branded sexist and hauled off the air.
V
If they made a program called loose men and had a load of gas bagging men slagging off women like they do men then it would be branded sexist and hauled off the air.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 12 November, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
Post by: Hoagy on 12 November, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
...Calling it SEAFOOD sauce. There's no seafood in it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 12 November, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 12 November, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 12 November, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
...Calling it SEAFOOD sauce. There's no seafood in it.
Thank goodness! What might that taste like otherwise? Garum?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garum)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 11:33:17 PM
Post by: dancornwell on 12 November, 2010, 11:33:17 PM
it makes me cry when the tv box freezes on that crap and i have to put up with menopausal women winging about blokes, who lets be honest, spend most their time doing their upmost to NOT upset the lady in their life. i love my mrs by the way, she's great
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 12:49:32 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 12:49:32 AM
Quote from: Krombasher on 12 November, 2010, 09:33:18 PMWhat about Daddy's then?
...Calling it SEAFOOD sauce. There's no seafood in it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 13 November, 2010, 05:36:35 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 13 November, 2010, 05:36:35 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 12:49:32 AMQuote from: Krombasher on 12 November, 2010, 09:33:18 PMWhat about Daddy's then?
...Calling it SEAFOOD sauce. There's no seafood in it.
That's a sub-section of *Brown* sauce, though int it (rhetorical)?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 13 November, 2010, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 13 November, 2010, 11:17:00 AM
Putting brown sauce on seafood would be a gastronomic crime!
(mind you, I'd say the same about putting brown sauce on anything)
(mind you, I'd say the same about putting brown sauce on anything)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Ah, but you don't eat bacon.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 13 November, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 13 November, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
At least there's brown in brown sauce, Ush.
I waaas thinking of SEAFOOD sauce on bacon sarnies, though. :-\
I waaas thinking of SEAFOOD sauce on bacon sarnies, though. :-\
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 13 November, 2010, 11:32:01 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 13 November, 2010, 11:32:01 AM
Quote from: The Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Ah, but you don't eat bacon.
I ate bacon until I was 19, but still I would never have put brown sauce on it. :-\
:lol:
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 13 November, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 13 November, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Rose wine. Strictly speaking, I do understand the appeal because people are lame like that. Sparkling Rose just tastes like gross pop.
Bellowing which university you went to via the medium of sweatshirt and/or t-shirt. Today I saw some small child wearing a jumper which had "OXFORD UNIVERSITY" on it. Now it's possible she will enact her 60%-polyester-ordained destiny, but it's sadly just as likely she'll be majoring in taking psychiatric drugs.
Bellowing which university you went to via the medium of sweatshirt and/or t-shirt. Today I saw some small child wearing a jumper which had "OXFORD UNIVERSITY" on it. Now it's possible she will enact her 60%-polyester-ordained destiny, but it's sadly just as likely she'll be majoring in taking psychiatric drugs.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 16 November, 2010, 12:23:30 PM
Post by: radiator on 16 November, 2010, 12:23:30 PM
....Getting on the tube then looking round at all the other standing people holding on to the railings, deciding 'Oh I don't need to do that!', then looking surprised as the train starts with a sudden jolt which sends you flying back, arms flailing, into the person behind you.
I swear there's at least one of you cretins in every bloody carriage! EVERYONE ELSE IS HOLDING ON FOR A REASON! >:(
I swear there's at least one of you cretins in every bloody carriage! EVERYONE ELSE IS HOLDING ON FOR A REASON! >:(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Colin Zeal on 17 November, 2010, 11:13:15 AM
Post by: Colin Zeal on 17 November, 2010, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: House of Usher on 13 November, 2010, 11:32:01 AMQuote from: The Cosh on 13 November, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Ah, but you don't eat bacon.
I ate bacon until I was 19, but still I would never have put brown sauce on it. :-\
:lol:
Brown sauce on a bacon sarnie is a must. It's certainly not a crime.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 17 November, 2010, 11:26:58 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 17 November, 2010, 11:26:58 AM
Brown sauce was outlawed it 2139 on finding its chemical compound being the same addictiveness as crack-cocaine, creep! 30 years! Intent to supply!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 17 November, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 17 November, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
My greatest fear is that one day I will put brown sauce on something, mistakenly thinking it's BBQ sauce.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 17 November, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 17 November, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Don't use brown sauce except on a fry up or a shepherd's pie. The shepherd's pie thing I just discovered last week but it was a total I'VE BEEN EATING THIS WRONG FOR YEARS moment.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 17 November, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
Post by: Mikey on 17 November, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
!
Congratulations Keef! It's a taste sensation, no?
I feel sorry for those who have no love for brown sauce. The best thing to have it with is the formidable Vegetable Roll (which only seems to exist in NE Emerald Isle - or am I wrong? It's sausage meat with veg in for those who don't know). Bellissimo!
See, a bottle of BBQ sauce for everyday condimentation I don't get the appeal of. And that it's always a sauce option in pubs and stuff - for non barbequed food.
M.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 17 November, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Don't use brown sauce except on a fry up or a shepherd's pie. The shepherd's pie thing I just discovered last week but it was a total I'VE BEEN EATING THIS WRONG FOR YEARS moment.
Congratulations Keef! It's a taste sensation, no?
I feel sorry for those who have no love for brown sauce. The best thing to have it with is the formidable Vegetable Roll (which only seems to exist in NE Emerald Isle - or am I wrong? It's sausage meat with veg in for those who don't know). Bellissimo!
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 17 November, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
My greatest fear is that one day I will put brown sauce on something, mistakenly thinking it's BBQ sauce.
See, a bottle of BBQ sauce for everyday condimentation I don't get the appeal of. And that it's always a sauce option in pubs and stuff - for non barbequed food.
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 13 November, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Rose wine. Strictly speaking, I do understand the appeal because people are lame like that. Sparkling Rose just tastes like gross pop.
Bellowing which university you went to via the medium of sweatshirt and/or t-shirt. Today I saw some small child wearing a jumper which had "OXFORD UNIVERSITY" on it. Now it's possible she will enact her 60%-polyester-ordained destiny, but it's sadly just as likely she'll be majoring in taking psychiatric drugs.
I think Oxford University TShirts are sold to tourists in shops like the way you can buy a Yale University T Shirt.It kind of cheapens the whole thing and i am surprised that Oxford allow it.Of course anyone who has actually been to Oxford wont usually advertise it but thats from my own experience* as their friends and employer or whatever knows about it but thats all.
Brown sauce has to be Daddies as none of the others that i have tried are any good except for M+S.HP is no good anymore as it has the wrong taste and texture and its too sweet tasting and not spicy enough.Try LeviRoots Reggae Reggae Jerk sauce as its the best brown sauce i have ever tasted.
*That sounds like i have been to Oxford which i havent :lol: but i know others who did.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 17 November, 2010, 08:26:11 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 17 November, 2010, 08:26:11 PM
To put any kind of sauce on bacon should be made a crime.
To cook a steak beyond medium should also be a crime, and medium is pushing it.
V
To cook a steak beyond medium should also be a crime, and medium is pushing it.
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 November, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 November, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
A smidgen of mango chutney is lovely on a bacon butty.
Me, I don't see the appeal of Milton Keynes (except for Roger and his mum of course!). Spent the day there today and it seems to be an entire city modelled on an out-of-town industrial estate. Horrible soulless wasteland, apart form the odd bit that used to be an isolated village before being swallowed up by the unrelenting gridwork of characterless boulevards.
Me, I don't see the appeal of Milton Keynes (except for Roger and his mum of course!). Spent the day there today and it seems to be an entire city modelled on an out-of-town industrial estate. Horrible soulless wasteland, apart form the odd bit that used to be an isolated village before being swallowed up by the unrelenting gridwork of characterless boulevards.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 November, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 17 November, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
A smidgen of mango chutney is lovely on a bacon butty.
Me, I don't see the appeal of Milton Keynes (except for Roger and his mum of course!). Spent the day there today and it seems to be an entire city modelled on an out-of-town industrial estate. Horrible soulless wasteland, apart form the odd bit that used to be an isolated village before being swallowed up by the unrelenting gridwork of characterless boulevards.
Roundabouts - Roundabouts - Roundabouts - More Roundabouts and yet more Roundabouts.....
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 17 November, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 17 November, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
The Milton Keynes Bowl is great for concerts. Went to an OZ FEST quite a few years ago and it is set out perfect for an open air gig.
V
V
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 November, 2010, 10:06:19 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 17 November, 2010, 10:06:19 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 17 November, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
The Milton Keynes Bowl is great for concerts. Went to an OZ FEST quite a few years ago and it is set out perfect for an open air gig.
This is true. One of my very first big gigs was at the MK bowl - a one-off reunion of Genesis and Peter Gabriel back in '82, supported by John Martyn among others. Pissed down for 8 hours, but a grand day! Even the coach driver got lost amongst all those roundabouts though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SquashedFly on 17 November, 2010, 10:12:54 PM
Post by: SquashedFly on 17 November, 2010, 10:12:54 PM
Buying seeded grapes on purpose.
I am currently eating some that were bought by accident. Alot of effort is being wasted on these grapes.
I am currently eating some that were bought by accident. Alot of effort is being wasted on these grapes.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mardroid on 18 November, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
Post by: Mardroid on 18 November, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 17 November, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Don't use brown sauce except on a fry up or a shepherd's pie. The shepherd's pie thing I just discovered last week but it was a total I'VE BEEN EATING THIS WRONG FOR YEARS moment.
I'm particularly fond of brown sauce on potatoes, boiled and baked. (Strangely, I went years without it on my food at all though). For chips I tend to go for the ol' salt and vinegar though. Strangely, I've never had it on Shepherd's Pie though. I think part of the reason is I often have shepherd's pie with a cheese on top. (Thinking about it, brown pickle goes with cheese so there's no reason brown sauce shouldn't.)
I'm also fond of brown sauce on pies and pastries. (The savoury kind obviously.)
As for a bacon sarny, brown sauce would work very well. I tend to go for English mustard though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 18 November, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 18 November, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 November, 2010, 01:52:50 AMBrown sauce on mum's stew and dumplings. What could be finer? Nom nom nom.Quote from: Keef Monkey on 17 November, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Don't use brown sauce except on a fry up or a shepherd's pie. The shepherd's pie thing I just discovered last week but it was a total I'VE BEEN EATING THIS WRONG FOR YEARS moment.
I'm particularly fond of brown sauce on potatoes, boiled and baked. (Strangely, I went years without it on my food at all though). For chips I tend to go for the ol' salt and vinegar though. Strangely, I've never had it on Shepherd's Pie though. I think part of the reason is I often have shepherd's pie with a cheese on top. (Thinking about it, brown pickle goes with cheese so there's no reason brown sauce shouldn't.)
I'm also fond of brown sauce on pies and pastries. (The savoury kind obviously.)
As for a bacon sarny, brown sauce would work very well. I tend to go for English mustard though.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 November, 2010, 09:58:01 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 November, 2010, 09:58:01 AM
QuoteThe best thing to have it with is the formidable Vegetable Roll (which only seems to exist in NE Emerald Isle - or am I wrong? It's sausage meat with veg in for those who don't know).
I think so- it's one of the things I miss from being in NI. I can occassionally get soad bread in Tesco over here though, but no vegetable roll...
They have a thing called square suasage though, which almost the same but not quite, I imagine it's like the equivalent of methadone to a heroin addict.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 18 November, 2010, 10:26:52 AM
Post by: Mikey on 18 November, 2010, 10:26:52 AM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 18 November, 2010, 09:58:01 AM
I think so- it's one of the things I miss from being in NI. I can occassionally get soad bread in Tesco over here though, but no vegetable roll...
They have a thing called square suasage though, which almost the same but not quite, I imagine it's like the equivalent of methadone to a heroin addict.
Hah! Funnily enough, I worked with a fella from Glasgow that had a stash of Lorne Sausage in his freezer that he only ate on special Scottish occasions to make it last, such as St Andrew's Day, Scotland footie matches and Burns night.
Now soda bread, veggie roll and brown sauce - there's your actual fine dining right there, Roux Jnr!
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 18 November, 2010, 10:40:34 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 18 November, 2010, 10:40:34 AM
For God's sake. Brown sauce is disgusting. We are not discussing this any further.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 18 November, 2010, 10:44:40 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 18 November, 2010, 10:44:40 AM
This thread is crazy. :D
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 18 November, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
Post by: radiator on 18 November, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
....'Hilarious' novelty Christmas gifts.
Every bloody year my sister insists on buying everyone stupid 'comedy' presents, like awful celebrity biographes, tacky music CDs, novelty pants etc, and she continues to do so even though every year they're always met with bemused silence or extremely awkward forced laughter of the recipient. I'm a firm believer that Christmas is so indulgent that you might as well buy practical, useful things for people rather than things that will end up in the bin come Boxing day. Anything else is wasteful - both ecologically and financially - I'd rather she just instead give the money she spends on this tat to charity and save everyone's embarrassment.
Every bloody year my sister insists on buying everyone stupid 'comedy' presents, like awful celebrity biographes, tacky music CDs, novelty pants etc, and she continues to do so even though every year they're always met with bemused silence or extremely awkward forced laughter of the recipient. I'm a firm believer that Christmas is so indulgent that you might as well buy practical, useful things for people rather than things that will end up in the bin come Boxing day. Anything else is wasteful - both ecologically and financially - I'd rather she just instead give the money she spends on this tat to charity and save everyone's embarrassment.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 November, 2010, 10:58:23 AM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 18 November, 2010, 10:58:23 AM
QuoteNow soda bread, veggie roll and brown sauce - there's your actual fine dining right there, Roux Jnr!
Amen to that!
I shall have to load up on the veggie roll next time I'm over..!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Mikey on 18 November, 2010, 12:46:35 PM
Post by: Mikey on 18 November, 2010, 12:46:35 PM
Radiator - your avatar and post came together in perfect harmony there! I've been guilty of the novelty gift in the past, but they've been well recieved (I think :-\)
But I don't get the appeal of The Apprentice. A bunch of generally unpleasant supplicant arse lickers willing to prostrate themselves before the money god for some reason. They had these types of tossers on 'The Hopefuls' on The Word didn't they?
M.
But I don't get the appeal of The Apprentice. A bunch of generally unpleasant supplicant arse lickers willing to prostrate themselves before the money god for some reason. They had these types of tossers on 'The Hopefuls' on The Word didn't they?
M.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 18 November, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 18 November, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
Your mom has willingly received many of my novelty gifts.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: davethomson on 18 November, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
Post by: davethomson on 18 November, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
The only place in for brown sauce in a civilised society is as an ingredient for chippy sauce, and yes in my opinion the east of Scotland is a civilised society. Everywhere else seems to think that salt and vinegar is the correct dressing for your chippy. Ruddy savages, I say!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Keef Monkey on 18 November, 2010, 06:33:15 PM
Post by: Keef Monkey on 18 November, 2010, 06:33:15 PM
I once had a drunken conversation with someone outside a gig who had a massive bottle of HP sauce tattooed on his calf, complete with spurtage. He must have really seen the appeal of that sauce.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SquashedFly on 18 November, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
Post by: SquashedFly on 18 November, 2010, 06:42:26 PM
Shame it wasn't their forearm, then they could of said its an elaborate metaphor for heroin use.
I'm not sure if I have ever had brown sauce actually...
I'm not sure if I have ever had brown sauce actually...
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 19 November, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
Post by: HdE on 19 November, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
I don't understand the appeal of buttering bread, sprinkling it with crushed crisps or a spoonful of sugar and than DARING to call it a sandwich.
One of my customers mentioend the age old, long forgotten 'sugar buttie' to me a while back, and I've been trying to get theidea out of my head ever since.
Jamie Oliver, where are you when we need you?
One of my customers mentioend the age old, long forgotten 'sugar buttie' to me a while back, and I've been trying to get theidea out of my head ever since.
Jamie Oliver, where are you when we need you?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 November, 2010, 12:48:26 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 November, 2010, 12:48:26 AM
Quote from: davethomson on 18 November, 2010, 12:59:23 PMI've lived in Glasgow for twenty years now and I still can't quite come to grips with this barbarism.
The only place in for brown sauce in a civilised society is as an ingredient for chippy sauce, and yes in my opinion the east of Scotland is a civilised society. Everywhere else seems to think that salt and vinegar is the correct dressing for your chippy. Ruddy savages, I say!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 November, 2010, 12:53:03 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 November, 2010, 12:53:03 AM
You will have salt on your chips and maybe ketchup if it's not cheapo plasticky-tasting ketchup.
No Vinegar.
No brahn sauce.
Just salt.
And maybe ketchup.
No Vinegar.
No brahn sauce.
Just salt.
And maybe ketchup.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 November, 2010, 12:53:56 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 19 November, 2010, 12:53:56 AM
Mayo?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 November, 2010, 12:55:27 AM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 November, 2010, 12:55:27 AM
Don't push your luck, sunshine.
And if any of you are thinking "Salad Cream" then you should just fucking kill yourselves right now to save me the bother.
And if any of you are thinking "Salad Cream" then you should just fucking kill yourselves right now to save me the bother.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 19 November, 2010, 01:05:23 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 19 November, 2010, 01:05:23 AM
"brahn sauce"
This is what's stigmatized the brown sauce I know as an ingredient for a meal. Most southerners throughout the 20th century held it up as the source behind Empirical domination. And its gone on recently too. Twonks.
This is what's stigmatized the brown sauce I know as an ingredient for a meal. Most southerners throughout the 20th century held it up as the source behind Empirical domination. And its gone on recently too. Twonks.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Jesse 'fucking' Custer.
Now, i enjoyed Preacher a lot (up until the last few where it all started to get a bit repetitive) but I always thought jesse was a bit of a pain in the hole, with his black-and-white morality and hackneyed machismo. Much preferred Cassidy - bit closer to home, I suppose, but he's as much a normal, fun bloke as a bloodthirsty vampire can be.
Torturing the cat was unforgiveable on both of their behalfs though - go after the bad guys, you bastards, but don't petrify dumb animals because they annoy you. It's not like it's going to learn its lesson.
Maybe I'm just jealous of Jesse because he's tougher than me.
Now, i enjoyed Preacher a lot (up until the last few where it all started to get a bit repetitive) but I always thought jesse was a bit of a pain in the hole, with his black-and-white morality and hackneyed machismo. Much preferred Cassidy - bit closer to home, I suppose, but he's as much a normal, fun bloke as a bloodthirsty vampire can be.
Torturing the cat was unforgiveable on both of their behalfs though - go after the bad guys, you bastards, but don't petrify dumb animals because they annoy you. It's not like it's going to learn its lesson.
Maybe I'm just jealous of Jesse because he's tougher than me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Misanthrope on 23 November, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: Misanthrope on 23 November, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
QuoteMost southerners throughout the 20th century held it up as the source behind Empirical domination. And its gone on recently too. Twonks.
And the Northeners secretly wished they could afford it. It would have made the black pudding taste better.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: mogzilla on 23 November, 2010, 10:41:01 PM
Post by: mogzilla on 23 November, 2010, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: Ratty on 23 November, 2010, 10:37:00 PMQuoteMost southerners throughout the 20th century held it up as the source behind Empirical domination. And its gone on recently too. Twonks.
And the Northeners secretly wished they could afford it. It would have made the black pudding taste better.
a proper black puddin needs nowt on it ee by gum ecky thumpers like. ;)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 24 November, 2010, 12:35:48 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 24 November, 2010, 12:35:48 AM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Jesse 'fucking' Custer.
I just completed my first full read of Preacher. What an over-rated mess that was. Yes, it has its moments, but Jesse and Tulip are a pale imitation of the already-irritating Sailor and Lula from Wild at Heart, stretched out excruciatingly over 9 volumes of castration jokes. The Saint of Killers and Arseface... Cheeses wept, they were watery fare. Clearly the whole thing is a young man's vice.
I did however enjoy Cassidy, a wonderfully immoral shite with a passably interesting tale, and some of the art was very nice (although I may have had enough Dillon to see me out).
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2010, 12:38:26 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2010, 12:38:26 AM
Heh, Irish vampires, make sense.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Hoagy on 24 November, 2010, 05:01:05 AM
Post by: Hoagy on 24 November, 2010, 05:01:05 AM
Quote from: mogzilla on 23 November, 2010, 10:41:01 PMQuote from: Ratty on 23 November, 2010, 10:37:00 PMQuoteMost southerners throughout the 20th century held it up as the source behind Empirical domination. And its gone on recently too. Twonks.
And the Northeners secretly wished they could afford it. It would have made the black pudding taste better.
a proper black puddin needs nowt on it ee by gum ecky thumpers like. ;)
Agreed. I had some on the weekend on my walk in the Lakes (in the North), and very spicy indeed. I don't buy it myself but, if its in with the BB I'll attempt it.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 24 November, 2010, 06:38:45 AM
Post by: HdE on 24 November, 2010, 06:38:45 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 24 November, 2010, 12:35:48 AMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Jesse 'fucking' Custer.
I just completed my first full read of Preacher. What an over-rated mess that was.
I have not and never will venture anywhere near Preacher. Overheard the guy who runs our local comic shop outlining the plot to one of his customers a while back, and my blood ran cold.
No sir. That story is not for me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 November, 2010, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: Spaceghost on 24 November, 2010, 08:48:48 AM
Quote from: HdE on 24 November, 2010, 06:38:45 AMQuote from: TordelBack on 24 November, 2010, 12:35:48 AMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Jesse 'fucking' Custer.
I just completed my first full read of Preacher. What an over-rated mess that was.
I have not and never will venture anywhere near Preacher. Overheard the guy who runs our local comic shop outlining the plot to one of his customers a while back, and my blood ran cold.
No sir. That story is not for me.
I made a concerted effort to get into Preacher a year or 2 ago. I ended up buying and reading the first 4 volumes but gave up in the end because it's just so vulgar, juvenile and desperate to shock in the most peurile way possible. As Tordelback says, there are decent moments and the art is great but it just pissed me off too much to continue reading it.
It's, to me, the best (worst) example of something that's 'INTENDED FOR MATURE READERS!' which is actually more suited to the more immature, adolescent reader who'll be impressed by this over the top nonsense. I'm no prude, far from it, but, as Paul Scott and I agreed at Thought Bubble on Saturday, Preacher is basically just vulgar.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Aaron A Aardvark on 24 November, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
Post by: Aaron A Aardvark on 24 November, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 24 November, 2010, 08:48:48 AMQuote from: HdE on 24 November, 2010, 06:38:45 AMQuote from: TordelBack on 24 November, 2010, 12:35:48 AMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 November, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Jesse 'fucking' Custer.
I just completed my first full read of Preacher. What an over-rated mess that was.
I have not and never will venture anywhere near Preacher. Overheard the guy who runs our local comic shop outlining the plot to one of his customers a while back, and my blood ran cold.
No sir. That story is not for me.
I made a concerted effort to get into Preacher a year or 2 ago. I ended up buying and reading the first 4 volumes but gave up in the end because it's just so vulgar, juvenile and desperate to shock in the most peurile way possible. As Tordelback says, there are decent moments and the art is great but it just pissed me off too much to continue reading it.
It's, to me, the best (worst) example of something that's 'INTENDED FOR MATURE READERS!' which is actually more suited to the more immature, adolescent reader who'll be impressed by this over the top nonsense. I'm no prude, far from it, but, as Paul Scott and I agreed at Thought Bubble on Saturday, Preacher is basically just vulgar.
A while ago I tried reading some non- 2000 AD comics for the first time in many years.
Unfortunately, I picked Preacher and killed the project stone cold dead.
Repetitive, boring, repetitive, tedious and repetitive.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 November, 2010, 09:51:49 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 November, 2010, 09:51:49 AM
There's nothing wrong with a bit of repetition.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 November, 2010, 09:53:17 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 November, 2010, 09:53:17 AM
There's nothing wrong with a bit of repetition.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 25 November, 2010, 01:12:27 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 25 November, 2010, 01:12:27 PM
QuoteHeh, Irish vampires, make sense.
:) I know. Sorry about the euro, everyone. We fucked up.
Don't mind the vulgarity of Preacher at all, and some of it was freakin' ace. (Though yeah, SERIOUSLY repetitive near the end. Every bad guy's a pervert who'll get get his cock shot off.) It's only really jesse I didn't like; though I didn't take to Tulip too much either.
I didn't really like Dante as a character at first either, but have warmed to him a lot (probably something to do with me becoming a lot more confident too; i just couldn't relate to such a cocky bastard in my younger days).
But Jesse - meh. just annoying, smug and violent.
And the Cosh is right. Nothing wrong with a bit of repetition. I don't think there's anything wrong with repetition. Nothing wrong with repetition at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 25 November, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
Post by: HdE on 25 November, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
Yes. Nothing wrong with a bit of repetition.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 November, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 25 November, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
Repetition.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 25 November, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 25 November, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Repetition. Yes, nothing wrong with a bit of it.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 26 November, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 26 November, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
To be honest, it's getting a bit repetitive at this stage. All this repetition, that is.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 26 November, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
It would hardly be repetition if it would hardly be repetition if it wasnt repetitious would it now would it ?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: HdE on 26 November, 2010, 06:36:57 PM
Post by: HdE on 26 November, 2010, 06:36:57 PM
I was just going to say that.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 26 November, 2010, 07:28:37 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 26 November, 2010, 07:28:37 PM
It's worth repeating Jayzus's point about repitition, that being that there's nothing wrong with repitition really. I would agree with this point.In fact, repitition has a value that cannot be overstated.
So there's nothing wrong with repitition. When we talk of things which are wrong, we shouldn't include repitition, because, there is nothing wrong with repitition. In this, I am in agreement with Jayzus, who also made this point. Personally, I think we should view we should view repitition as something of value.
And that value cannot be overstated.
So there's nothing wrong with repitition. When we talk of things which are wrong, we shouldn't include repitition, because, there is nothing wrong with repitition. In this, I am in agreement with Jayzus, who also made this point. Personally, I think we should view we should view repitition as something of value.
And that value cannot be overstated.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: TordelBack on 26 November, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 26 November, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
This thread is just going in circles now.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 November, 2010, 10:21:00 AM
Circles, yes.
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 08:18:17 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 08:18:17 PM
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
Post by: House of Usher on 27 November, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
I like that. :) Trouble is, the tense is ambiguous in the first panel. On first reading I wasn't certain if this was a one-off and inescapable recursive event or if this is something that happens every time the guy has a day off.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 11:07:34 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 11:07:34 PM
sweet jesus..you guys
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 11:09:29 PM
Post by: johnnystress on 27 November, 2010, 11:09:29 PM
Usher -your reply hurts my brain more than that PBF strip
oww
oww
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: exilewood on 28 November, 2010, 01:26:56 AM
Post by: exilewood on 28 November, 2010, 01:26:56 AM
There is "Joy in Repetition" according to Prince. Who is the artist formerly known as Prince who is now once again known as Prince. So I guess he knows a thing or two about this kind of thing.
P.S - he's probably just talking about fucking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUNRBU3Xwc
P.S - great song.
P.S - he's probably just talking about fucking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUNRBU3Xwc
P.S - great song.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Kerrin on 28 November, 2010, 01:58:36 AM
Post by: Kerrin on 28 November, 2010, 01:58:36 AM
Yeah, he is... Try this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjVWoLApibM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjVWoLApibM)
...these boys are so much bigger live it's ridiculous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjVWoLApibM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjVWoLApibM)
...these boys are so much bigger live it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: exilewood on 28 November, 2010, 02:09:41 AM
Post by: exilewood on 28 November, 2010, 02:09:41 AM
A mate's band just supported that lot. I didn't go.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 November, 2010, 03:43:13 AM
Post by: I, Cosh on 28 November, 2010, 03:43:13 AM
Cheers for that Prince track. A corker.
As Mark E Smith said on the B side of The Fall's first single: "We've repetition in our music. And we're never gonna lose it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8GJ6zbc5g
As Mark E Smith said on the B side of The Fall's first single: "We've repetition in our music. And we're never gonna lose it." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8GJ6zbc5g
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: House of Usher on 28 November, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
Post by: House of Usher on 28 November, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
Hot Chip amuse me. This year Cardiff University Students Union booked Tinchy Stryder for their summer ball and he pulled out to do a Nike ad instead, so Hot Chip came in as a last minute replacement. Lots of the students were miffed about it. Ungrateful bastards.
I liked the comment of one student though, who said "I don't like either act, so I'm not really bothered."
I liked the comment of one student though, who said "I don't like either act, so I'm not really bothered."
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 28 November, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
Joy in Repitition is my favourite Prince track. I think hardly anyone has heard it because it's on Graffiti Bridge. "A little bit behind the beat... just enough to turn you on"
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: vzzbux on 14 December, 2010, 10:34:26 PM
Post by: vzzbux on 14 December, 2010, 10:34:26 PM
In these energy/climate saving times, why people have lights built into their driveways/gardens. I used to help my uncle on some of his landscaping jobs and one property must have had over 200 lights around their property and up their driveway. Some of them heavy halogen lights which pump out strong light with massive energy consumption. It is a trend that has been growing for the past 5 years or so and doesn't look like it is slowing.
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Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2010, 10:46:14 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 14 December, 2010, 10:46:14 PM
I agree - there's plenty of solar lights available if you just want to illuminate your driveway. And don't get me started on the eco-disaster that is patio heaters - who ever thought that heating the outdoors was a good idea?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 16 December, 2010, 09:20:17 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 16 December, 2010, 09:20:17 PM
I completely agree!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
....Minecraft - just looks tedious to me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 21 February, 2011, 08:20:47 PM
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 21 February, 2011, 08:20:47 PM
Using the number of units, not the number of servings, on the packaging of food.
The crumpet box says I have 8 crumpets, and I suppose that in a way I do. But my toaster has TWO SLOTS. I don't know of any toaster that has only one slot, so it's always going to be FOUR SERVINGS of crumpets. Servings are what matters.
The crumpet box says I have 8 crumpets, and I suppose that in a way I do. But my toaster has TWO SLOTS. I don't know of any toaster that has only one slot, so it's always going to be FOUR SERVINGS of crumpets. Servings are what matters.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Jared Katooie on 21 February, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
Post by: Jared Katooie on 21 February, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
Rihanna.
Her "music" is abominable, yet she's never off the radio. Twice a day, regular as clockwork. Rihanna.
Crap music on the radio is nothing new, but to be so consistently droning, repetitive, and terrible, terrible, terrible. How does she do it?
Well it depends on how you approach things. To some the prospect of wandering around a vast randomly generated world, discovering mountains and caves, and spending hours (or days) building impressive structures, is very rewarding. To others, the idea of sinking huge amounts of time into re-arranging coloured cubes is, at best, a waste of time.
Personally, I think both sides have a point. I can't see the appeal in spending days painstakingly constructing a flimsy hovel, just to have a rampaging cock blow it to bits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9RbefOjz6E&feature=related), but I do love the idea of exploring, and tunneling into (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdUpt3KpEH4), a huge random world all of my own.
But who has the time?
Her "music" is abominable, yet she's never off the radio. Twice a day, regular as clockwork. Rihanna.
Crap music on the radio is nothing new, but to be so consistently droning, repetitive, and terrible, terrible, terrible. How does she do it?
Quote from: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
....Minecraft - just looks tedious to me.
Well it depends on how you approach things. To some the prospect of wandering around a vast randomly generated world, discovering mountains and caves, and spending hours (or days) building impressive structures, is very rewarding. To others, the idea of sinking huge amounts of time into re-arranging coloured cubes is, at best, a waste of time.
Personally, I think both sides have a point. I can't see the appeal in spending days painstakingly constructing a flimsy hovel, just to have a rampaging cock blow it to bits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9RbefOjz6E&feature=related), but I do love the idea of exploring, and tunneling into (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdUpt3KpEH4), a huge random world all of my own.
But who has the time?
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JamesC on 22 February, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
Post by: JamesC on 22 February, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 21 February, 2011, 08:20:47 PM
Using the number of units, not the number of servings, on the packaging of food.
The crumpet box says I have 8 crumpets, and I suppose that in a way I do. But my toaster has TWO SLOTS. I don't know of any toaster that has only one slot, so it's always going to be FOUR SERVINGS of crumpets. Servings are what matters.
WRONG!
I want to know how many crumpets there are in total and then I can work out my own serving. I may want to eat 3 crumpets as one serving for all you know! Apart from anything else the traditional way to cook crumpets is over a fire - which doesn't have 'slots' and lots of people cook them under the grill because you can do lots at once.
I hate food packaging that gives you a number of servings. Often things say 'serves 4' when, honestly, you're only going to get two decent portions out of it.
Tell me how much food there is in total and I'll work out the servings myself, packaging nazis! This is what Jesus was battling against when he fed 5000 with about 6 'servings' of loaves and fishes.
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Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2011, 02:05:57 PM
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2011, 02:05:57 PM
One of my favourite 'serving information' cons is Tesco's 'Meal for Four' promotion of processed crud, which on inspection translates to estimated portions for Daddy Bear, Mummy Bear, Baby Bear and Pre-Solids Bear. Or more properly 'Meal for about 2'.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: EddieHitler on 22 February, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
Post by: EddieHitler on 22 February, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
Modern dance music!....please note this Mr Next Door Neighbour!!!!.......thump thump thump thump......what is it all about?
Or am I getting old? :(
Or am I getting old? :(
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 22 February, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 22 February, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
Charleswater, i feel your pain. At work, my guys are plagued by dance music from the flat downstairs (40 year old druggie) and the flat upstairs (2 middleaged druggie tossrags). Phone environmental health, and request a noise diary. They will then send them notice they are being monitored.
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: EddieHitler on 22 February, 2011, 04:29:29 PM
Post by: EddieHitler on 22 February, 2011, 04:29:29 PM
Thank you SBT.
It really drives me nuts! As soon as it starts I could murder! One minute I'm placid but when it starts I lose it a bit.
I have bought industrial ear plugs which appear to keep most of the bass out.
Many thanks again.
It really drives me nuts! As soon as it starts I could murder! One minute I'm placid but when it starts I lose it a bit.
I have bought industrial ear plugs which appear to keep most of the bass out.
Many thanks again.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 25 February, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
There is nothing worse than being forcibly subjected to someone else's music from the flat/house next door. It could be your favourite band and it would still drive you up the wall with the stress.
(I quite liked Rihanna's Umbrella song. And some of her lyrics are really weird but she's had a dip in quality recently.)
(I quite liked Rihanna's Umbrella song. And some of her lyrics are really weird but she's had a dip in quality recently.)
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: davethomson on 25 February, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
Post by: davethomson on 25 February, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
There is nothing worse than being forcibly subjected to someone else's music from the flat/house next door.
Ah yes, I have this problem with my neighbours playing some kind of Polish pop really loud, late at night. I fight back with Motorheads "Ace of Spades" and win every time.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 February, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
Post by: Richmond Clements on 25 February, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: davethomson on 25 February, 2011, 02:26:57 PMQuote from: staticgirl on 25 February, 2011, 02:03:08 PM
There is nothing worse than being forcibly subjected to someone else's music from the flat/house next door.
Ah yes, I have this problem with my neighbours playing some kind of Polish pop really loud, late at night. I fight back with Motorheads "Ace of Spades" and win every time.
What I used to do was wait until 9Am the next morning, when they were all partied out and trying to sleep and then whack on the Metal at top volume.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 February, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 25 February, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
My late uncle once had a long-running and very childish feud with neighbours. He objected to the sheets on their washing line billowing over the fence, so he hammered 6 inch nails upside-down along the top of the fence; and later he went out and bought an album of bagpipe music and used to turn the speakers to the adjoining wall, crank it up to max and go out. A lovely bloke most of the time, but those people just riled him!
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: staticgirl on 27 February, 2011, 08:43:20 PM
Post by: staticgirl on 27 February, 2011, 08:43:20 PM
My late father liked some nice bagpipe music. I can see why they are reputedly classed as weapons.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 February, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 27 February, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
I saw a set of bagpipes in a nice presentation case, for £85, and did ponder briefly buying them. Dont ask me why, they just appealed.
But i put down a deposit on a TIE fighter instead.
SBT
But i put down a deposit on a TIE fighter instead.
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Michaelvk on 04 March, 2011, 12:37:53 AM
Post by: Michaelvk on 04 March, 2011, 12:37:53 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 27 February, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
But i put down a deposit on a TIE fighter instead.
SBT
It worries me that that seems like a perfectly sensible thing to do..
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 04 March, 2011, 05:04:25 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 04 March, 2011, 05:04:25 PM
Michaelvk, thankyou! i'd forgotten about the tie fighter and hadnt picked it up. Will have to phone them and get it next week. Cheers.
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
I don't see the appeal of making a film adaptation of World War Z and doing it as anything other than a straight faux-documentary translation of the book.
If the filmmakers behind the movie WWZ are apparently just going to make a generic zombie film, then why bother buying the rights to WWZ at all? Surely the key things about WWZ are the structure of the book and the 'factual' angle? Take that away and you entirely miss the point.
If the filmmakers behind the movie WWZ are apparently just going to make a generic zombie film, then why bother buying the rights to WWZ at all? Surely the key things about WWZ are the structure of the book and the 'factual' angle? Take that away and you entirely miss the point.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
Quote from: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
I don't see the appeal of making a film adaptation of World War Z and doing it as anything other than a straight faux-documentary translation of the book.
If the filmmakers behind the movie WWZ are apparently just going to make a generic zombie film, then why bother buying the rights to WWZ at all? Surely the key things about WWZ are the structure of the book and the 'factual' angle? Take that away and you entirely miss the point.
Absolutely. But I thought that was what they were doing? With Mr Pitt taking the role of the interviewer? Have we heard differently? It's filming in Tunbridge Wells next month, marvellously- I guess they didn't want to spent out on zombie makeups- and hopefully after that coming down to Bexhill and Eastbourne! ;)
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2011, 11:18:38 AM
Post by: Peter Wolf on 12 June, 2011, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2011, 11:10:50 AMQuote from: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
I don't see the appeal of making a film adaptation of World War Z and doing it as anything other than a straight faux-documentary translation of the book.
If the filmmakers behind the movie WWZ are apparently just going to make a generic zombie film, then why bother buying the rights to WWZ at all? Surely the key things about WWZ are the structure of the book and the 'factual' angle? Take that away and you entirely miss the point.
Absolutely. But I thought that was what they were doing? With Mr Pitt taking the role of the interviewer? Have we heard differently? It's filming in Tunbridge Wells next month, marvellously- I guess they didn't want to spent out on zombie makeups- and hopefully after that coming down to Bexhill and Eastbourne! ;)
SBT
Bexhill On Sea is a half way house between life and death .
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 02:38:55 PM
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 02:38:55 PM
Everything I've heard about the WWZ movie indicates that they are abandoning the interview format of the book in favour of a traditional film narrative. The narrator, played by Brad Pitt, will be the main character and focus of the story.
They claim that this is because the original story wouldn't work cinematically, but imo that's bull - what they really mean is that they're trying to turn the book into a big mainstream blockbuster, when it would be much better suited to being a quirky mid-budget mockumentary. The resulting film might turn out ok, but it certainly won't be World War Z. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to me.
They claim that this is because the original story wouldn't work cinematically, but imo that's bull - what they really mean is that they're trying to turn the book into a big mainstream blockbuster, when it would be much better suited to being a quirky mid-budget mockumentary. The resulting film might turn out ok, but it certainly won't be World War Z. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to me.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2011, 03:01:37 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2011, 03:01:37 PM
Let's face it, the world doesn't need another zombie film.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 03:08:03 PM
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 03:08:03 PM
Fair point, but what I liked about WWZ was that it's a fresh and novel spin on a tired genre - and it sounds like they are making it into just another zombie film.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 June, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
Au contraire, i think the world needs as many zombie films as it can get. WWZ is one of my favourite novels, if not my absolute favourite, but it worked for me because it just did, on the scale he'd love to have, what Romero has been doing in film these past forty years. And what kirkman's doing in comics. Im not sure what to expect from the movie, but i'll be shocked if i dont come out thinking it couldve been done better as a tv show, over a couple of years.
SBT
SBT
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 07:18:23 PM
Post by: radiator on 12 June, 2011, 07:18:23 PM
Quotei'll be shocked if i dont come out thinking it couldve been done better as a tv show
Absolutely - in an ideal world, it would be a big budget TV miniseries. It would lend itself especially well to that format, because going by the novel there would be scope for many quieter, more character-driven episodes to offset the stuff like the Battle of Yonkers which would swallow a lot of the budget. I've heard that shows like Doctor Who operate in this way.
Would loved to have seen Mark Hamill, Jurgen Prochnow and Henry Rollins reprising their roles from the audiobook adaptation - great bit of casting, there.
Title: Re: I don't understand the appeal of...
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 June, 2011, 08:50:24 PM
Post by: I, Cosh on 15 June, 2011, 08:50:24 PM
Personally, I agree with Joe Soap. However, if you live in Glasgow, you can be in World War Z:
http://www.castingcollective.co.uk/new-artistes/urgent-castings/#cast-1
http://www.castingcollective.co.uk/new-artistes/urgent-castings/#cast-1