Lying in the Gutters has a couple of pages of Guy Davis art for a Dredd story in Meg 296 it's written by Rob Williams and features Davis' trade mark monsters.Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.
Think it might have been mentioned that he's doing it, but I can't remember what thread and, frankly, who cares. With news this good you want to spread it. There's a link somewhere to some images I think.
Here's the Link hopefully
www.bleedingcool.com/2010/02/11/guy-davis-draws-dredd/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/02/11/guy-davis-draws-dredd/)
That's great news, I bloody love Guy Davis.
Quote from: satchmo on 21 February, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
That's great news, I bloody love Guy Davis.
Same here, although I must admit that outside of Sandman Mystery Theatre and his work on some of the original World of Darkness RPG books I've no idea what else he's been up to.
To Wikipedia!
Regards
Robin
Nice beastie and look a flamethrower, me want!
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Nice beastie and look a flamethrower, me want!
Most importantly, good-looking judges ... it's good to see an established US artist who clearly gets it ...
Cheers
Jim
Guy Davis and I talk about our upcoming Dredd at CBR. There's a previously unseen page of art here too http://bit.ly/d65SHi
I love Guy Davis' work. :D
This is going to be a treat, even though it does involve buying the Meg.
Nice! Rob- how'd this come about? Did you lure him in with your wiles?
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 25 February, 2010, 09:54:54 AM
Did you lure him in with your wiles?
No! Not the dreaded Williams Wiles!
Cheers
Jim
I have wiles?
No, I just... asked. He genuinely loves the old Cursed Earth Dredd stories so that was obviously the appeal for him rather than any huge desire to work with me, I'm sure.
Well nice one, Rob. I can't wait.
Looking forward to this. By the way Rob, your Rob-o-cop rocks!
With Guy Davis onboard you don't even need a script: just have (in the Marvel Style) Dredd ride into town, fight and kill a mutant monster and slap speech balloons on afterwards: job's a good 'un! Sit back, unzip and enjoy the art (and the great colouring, never to be overlooked).
What John said.
Just hit his Hellblazer issues in my re-read, cracking artist with an individual style and great storytelling chops. He makes it look easy, but anyone who's attempted it knows it's far from it.
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 February, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
Looking forward to this. By the way Rob, your Rob-o-cop rocks!
Thanks!
Quote from: Rob1971 on 25 February, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
Guy Davis and I talk about our upcoming Dredd at CBR. There's a previously unseen page of art here too http://bit.ly/d65SHi
I've used your Breathing Space interview (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/112354523697083.htm) at Comics Bulletin in previous discussion on raising the comics profile as an example that 2000AD stories
can get good coverage in the main comics sites (even ones with a strong US comic book focus) and you've done it again. Is it just because you contact them (and everyone else is being far too British about the whole thing) or does the success of Cla$$war give you some extra stroke or... something else?
Also a bit of a coup - Richard Elson on your first Dredd and now the multiple Eisner Award winning team Guy Davis and Dave Stewart. How do you do it?
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 25 February, 2010, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: His Lordship rac on 25 February, 2010, 09:54:54 AM
Did you lure him in with your wiles?
No! Not the dreaded Williams Wiles!
Read this as Williams Willies, which puts a whole new spin on proceedings.
Sorry, just seen this, Emperor.
Yeah, I contacted CBR about the Guy Davis strip. Newsarama too, I think they're running an interview. Thought it'd be a good bit of publicity for the Meg as there's US fans of Guy who may well seek out this issue of the Meg when they normally wouldn't.
It's tough to get the US comics news sites to flag up 2000AD stories but when there's something that's of interest to them, like a Guy Davis strip or a Chris Weston Future Shock etc they will. Work by creators known to the US market.
Might be cool to try and talk them into doing a couple of 2000AD creator profiles, but that's really something for Rebellion. The more publicity for Tooth the better.
I know there has been a lot of to do about Rufus so I am rather aprehensive about posting this but I have to be heard as it really got my gander up.
On this message board there is much art talent that is more than good enough to appear on the meg who haven't. Although the art of Guy Davis is OK the actual strip art featured in 296 is rather substandard IMHO. I am not an arty person but what process goes into choosing an artist for a script? because if I was editor I wouldn't have passed the art, but then again that probably is why I am not an editor.
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 28 March, 2010, 11:28:10 AM
I know there has been a lot of to do about Rufus so I am rather aprehensive about posting this but I have to be heard as it really got my gander up.
On this message board there is much art talent that is more than good enough to appear on the meg who haven't. Although the art of Guy Davis is OK the actual strip art featured in 296 is rather substandard IMHO. I am not an arty person but what process goes into choosing an artist for a script? because if I was editor I wouldn't have passed the art, but then again that probably is why I am not an editor.
With the greatest respect to you, I think you're wrong. It's great looking art, sympathetic yet horrendous looking mutants, excellent story telling and smothered in atmosphere - strikes me that it's a great match of artist to strip. Also: Guy Davis has more than proved that he's a reliable, consistent artists who has an established fanbase* which means an editor can commission him safe in the knowledge that he'll turn the work around in a timely manner, it'll look great and many people will love it (obv excluding you).
As regards to "On this message board there is much art talent that is more than good enough to appear on the meg who haven't" - there's a world of difference between posting the occasional great pin up image and being able to do a 12 page comic strip of Judge Dredd in two/three weeks and to suggest otherwise is to greatly diminish the work involved in drawing a comic strip.
Obviously none of this really matters to you - you're more than welcome to your opinion and, if, for you, the art is 'substandard' then no amount of facts will get in the way of that.
-pj
*my mac os x spell check flagged that up and suggested 'fannies' - the filthy tart.
(My apologies: by facts I actually meant 'contrary opinions')
-pj
Substandard is probably a bit harsh, I asked the question of selection as I don't have a clue of the process. I do agree with you PJ of selective art and continuous work on a strip. A deadline script on some of the talented artists on the board may reduce their quality.
Doesn't change the fact that the art on the strip is not my cup of tea. Personal opinion I suppose.
Your art by the way is still sublime (and I am not creeping).
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 28 March, 2010, 02:47:45 PM
Substandard is probably a bit harsh, I asked the question of selection as I don't have a clue of the process.
I think in this instance, Rob and Guy had worked together before and Rob suggested Guy would be a good fit - not many american artists are, but Guy's work on the Hellboy universe is a lot closer to the 2000AD aesthetic than any amount of superhero yahoos.
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I do agree with you PJ of selective art and continuous work on a strip. A deadline script on some of the talented artists on the board may reduce their quality.
It's not just about reducing quality - sometimes a great artist is just incapable of a full script. (I should know, I've built part of my career on that fact).
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Doesn't change the fact that the art on the strip is not my cup of tea. Personal opinion I suppose.
Which is cool, *whisper it* sometimes not everything in the prog or meg is my cup of tea, but it's ALWAYS, at the very least, of a high standard. NO-ONE would argue with a statement like 'Not my cup of tea', otoh, a statement like 'If I was editor ... substandard ... ' deserves a bit of an argument.
-pj
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Your art by the way is still sublime (and I am not creeping).
Ta' - but that only reflects how wrong you are :)
-pj
Jumping in here - and not to argue with you re: liking the art. Fair enough, we'll agree to diagree there. Personally I think Guy's one of the best in the business.
But one thing to take into account about an artist's work which is easy to overlook but is actually probably the most important skill - is storytelling. It's easier to create a nice-looking image. For me, Guy is one of the best storytelling artists. Every single panel in Out Law absolutely nails the narrative and mood, is completely clear to the reader, gets to the heart of what the script wanted to convey with each image and, very often, enhances it.
Not bashing anyone's opinion here, but when discussing the merits of an artist, that's a vey important thing to take into account.
V
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Just read Out Law, and I thought it was absolutely brilliant, both in writing and art. That last page was great!
Never heard of Guy before - I don't really follow US comics - but am really impressed. Really gorgeous artwork.
Guess I am alone then, ah well. Never was one for the majority.
V
The whole f*cking point of 2000AD is that there is a huge mixed bag of stories and art and talent and shit and some of it some of us will like, and some of it some of us won't...
24496The Art of Monsters with Guy Davis
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id= (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=)
Have to say I couldn't see the buzz about Guy Davis from the preview panels on the web. He didn't look all that. The story upon reading held together really well and I actually really liked it. Davis' mutants actually looked mutated rather than alien (which is a mistake I think is commonly made).
An enjoyable Meg all around. I'm getting into Tempest although I'm still a bit unsure as to who or what he is supposed to be (why he dresses like a judge). The Lost Case was fun but not as tied in to Dredd history as others have been. I've kind of lost interest in Tank Girl I'm afraid.(although I appreciate the work and know some poeple like it) One thing that kind of confused me about the recent stories I only really thought about the other day, didn't Tank Girl used to be set in a kind of post apocalyptic Austaralia? Not read the originals for years (always thought Camp Koala was the best thing in it) but these new stories all feel much more british.
Finally dropped through the letter box this morning, only really read the Dredd so far and must say Davis for me did not disappoint his style is really suited to Mutants and the Cursed Earth a real highlight for me as not much else in the Meg just now is holding my interest.Hopefully Davis' art will draw in some new readers across the pond and maybe encourage a few more Americans to have a pop at Dredd
As I've already commented on the spiffing cover, I'll move straight to the stories...
Dredd1 - Outlaw - brilliant! I really thought this was top notch Dredd and Guy Davis evoked a suitably gritty and grim atmosphere for the tale. I'm not familiar with him either, but I'd be happy to see him tackle a few more Cursed Earth yarns. Not sure if that's his usual style, but I dunno if it'd suit the Big Meg quite as much in my book. The ending was brutal, and due to scheduling I think took away from...
Dredd2 - Lost Case. Good stuff! It's really capturing an 'old school' feel without being overtly nostalgic. The series is really channeling what made Dredd so much fun - logical if bonkers perp showing an aspect of Mega City, bit of background Judge proceedures, Dredd sorts him out and no mistake! But, as I say, the end didn't have quite the same impact due to Outlaw IMO. Minor quibble and top scribbles from Marshall, make me want more B&W from him.
Tempest - full of beans, but didn't entertain me quite so much this issue for some reason. But some intrigue about his origins...[spoiler]SJS perhaps? Ex Sov? Just mentalist?[/spoiler]
Tank Girl - some nice artwork, but I found it hard to work out why I should care about what is happening. IMHO.
I enjoyed the Jesus Redondo interview - yeah, get him back! He's keen and everything! Haven't read the reprint yet, just remembered it actually!
M.
Quote from: JAMESCOR on 30 March, 2010, 11:13:45 AM
Hopefully Davis' art will draw in some new readers across the pond and maybe encourage a few more Americans to have a pop at Dredd
Cameron Stewart knows and likes his Dredd.
But then, that's all I know.
http://cameronstewart.blogspot.com/ (http://cameronstewart.blogspot.com/)
As I turned to the second page of the Lost Case, I was surprised at the naughty word printed in the caption...
...then I realized it was 'flicking', by a hairs' breadth :-[.
I for one thought Outlaw was a great tale - actually one of my favorites in the Meg ever - story and art wise. But I worry that because of this Rufus business, every time a boarder expresses dissatisfaction with work in the Prog/Meg, it will set off a Creator/Boarder...I don't know what word to use...'spat', maybe? This is the only forum I've been on where the creators interact so regularly with the boarders, and I hope that isn't in jeopardy!
I don't know Guy Davis from anything else, but I know I like him on Dredd - very much my 'thing'. Pairing him with Wagner on a Cursed Earth tale was a great idea...wait, what's that I see in the credits, that was by Rob Williams? Not Wagner? Not Ewing, or even Rennie? Wow, I'm impressed, that was definitely Rob's best Dredd to date, a very neat and memorable take on the old man.
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 April, 2010, 01:11:12 PM
Wow, I'm impressed, that was definitely Rob's best Dredd to date, a very neat and memorable take on the old man.
Yeah, an interesting and somewhat disturbing examination of Dredd's character that manages to feel "right", where some other non-Wagner attempts have, well, not.
Good work from Mr Williams and a splendid art turn from Guy Davis who manages that feat which seems (inexplicably, to me) too difficult for a great many US artists - a solid and convincing depiction of Dredd himself.
Cheers!
Jim
After being so impressed with Out Law, I'm thinking that I'd like to go back and re-examine some of Rob's other Dredd scripts, but I'm struggling to think of any other than the one about Dredd's biographer, which was good if a little too in-jokey.
I think there's also the one about the alien invasion and the explorer bloke with the bandages, am I right? Any others I should look out for?
Is Outlaw the turning point in the Tour of Duty arc? Dredd was obviously jealous or at least struck by the preacher's autonomy, power and utter conviction to duty. Things that by his own actions Dredd has let go to a certain extent, having grown a conscience over the years.
M
Quote from: Mikey on 01 April, 2010, 01:41:03 PM
Is Outlaw the turning point in the Tour of Duty arc? Dredd was obviously jealous or at least struck by the preacher's autonomy, power and utter conviction to duty. Things that by his own actions Dredd has let go to a certain extent, having grown a conscience over the years.
M
Unlikely unless Mr Wagner suggested it.
Quote from: In Orbit Every Monday on 31 March, 2010, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: JAMESCOR on 30 March, 2010, 11:13:45 AM
Hopefully Davis' art will draw in some new readers across the pond and maybe encourage a few more Americans to have a pop at Dredd
Cameron Stewart knows and likes his Dredd.
But then, that's all I know.
http://cameronstewart.blogspot.com/ (http://cameronstewart.blogspot.com/)
Now that I'd like to see! I hope he sneaks Seaguy and Chubby into a background somewhere if he ever does a Dredd. But then they wouldn't warrant a second look in The Big Meg would they? :)
I've been a huge fan of Guy Davis for a long time, and I can't wait to read this months Dredd. From what I'm hearing Rob's story is a corker too.
OUT LAW is top quality Dredd in both script and art. It's a brave and clever writer who knows that we don't really care about the big creepy mountain monster.
The Lost Case was a bit too trivial to me. Tempest has me wavering
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 01 April, 2010, 04:57:17 PMIt's a brave and clever writer who knows that we don't really care about the big creepy mountain monster.
That's it exactly. I also thought that the eye-gouging sequence walked a perfect line between staying within the established limits of Dredd's character and showing us something
new about him - literally on the knife edge between 'wrong' and 'same-old' that many scripts fall either side of. I think the word here is 'deft'.
This strip earned the Meg another month's stay of budgetary execution.
EDIT: I do have to wonder though... how is the (new to me but apparently) famous and rather fabulous Guy Davis going to attract new readers sealed away in that plastic bag? Worse, how is the really very fine-looking super-dense production that was this month's Pulp SF pseudo-GN a selling point when there's no way for the uninitiated to even know it's in there? I see this as a big problem for the Meg.
Not a bad Meg, though I have to say it hasn't been grabbing me by the proverbials* for a long time. I liked the Dredd but I have to say I'd never heard of Guy Davis before and didn't like the art. Ah well, each to their own.
The lost case was ok but not up there with all the previous ones - and I've always thought Alan Grant was always a bit too liberal (if that's the right word) with Dredd's death sentences. i know capital punishment exists in MC1 and all, but the usual Wagner Dredd doesn't often shoot unarmed and restrained perps willy-nilly.
*bollocks, that is
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 April, 2010, 05:19:24 PM
I think the word here is 'deft'.
Tordel is right.
(Just redressing the balance, here, TB. FWIW, though, you
are right. Possibly the most interesting non-Wagner Dredd for a very long time.)
Cheers!
Jim
davis' art doesnt normally "do it "for me but this worked maybe its cos im an autistic tendency but i didnt like bprd cos the art didnt feel right on a mignola script to me where as fredrego does as demonstrated on the recent hellboy arcs.
i have this problem when i see other artists taking over the reins on an established strip strontium dog being the one springing to mind but saying that colin's work on the dredd /alpha crossover worked ! :-\
Dredd can have different artists take on the world and character and get away with it and as for people being afraid to post their opinions ...dont...just be nice about it ....going back to the whole rufus thing... the meg itself printed some derisive letters about tank girl and if i remember rightly without checking in thrill power overload some of the boss droids were pretty undiplomatic about some other work over the years kim raymond's time on dredd fer example...and i dont actually recall any one slagging rufus' art off just tank girl in general ....the arts great, the "story" less so for me and others...maybe it would have been better recieved in smaller doses? there seemed to be a bit of overkill .
i would also like to see an end to the film reviews i subscribe to sfx and get all the info i need in there lets see some more creator interviews .
the pulp sci fi gn was a good un this month i missed all of those originally...
There's something I'm curious to know. During the flashback, were the 'old-style' shoulder pads mentioned in the script or did Guy add that detail himself?
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 April, 2010, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 01 April, 2010, 01:11:12 PM
Wow, I'm impressed, that was definitely Rob's best Dredd to date, a very neat and memorable take on the old man.
Yeah, an interesting and somewhat disturbing examination of Dredd's character that manages to feel "right", where some other non-Wagner attempts have, well, not.
Good work from Mr Williams and a splendid art turn from Guy Davis who manages that feat which seems (inexplicably, to me) too difficult for a great many US artists - a solid and convincing depiction of Dredd himself.
Cheers!
Jim
seconded.
Really enjoyed this strip in The Meg and thought the art complimented it perfectly. The art reminded me of a less angular Kevin Walker-not a bad thing in my book.
Top stuff!
I suppose part of the joy in the art, as in the script, is knowing which bits to concentrate on. The muties are all brilliantly realised and sympathetically drawn characters - I don't think it would add anything to the story telling having overly detailed backgrounds where you can see every nail in a piece of wood and every bit of mortar between the bricks*. (Much like it adds nothing to the story to have a 3 page smackdown between Dredd and the beastie).
* Not that I object to this - I love the art on ALL STAR BATMAN and on, say HARD BOILED both of which are pretty poor as stories but most of the joy comes from the art (especially the intricacies of Darrow's mental mind running wild on background detail as a car smashes through a wall and he seems to have drawn ten thousand bricks individually).
Hard Boiled is amazing as is Shaolin Cowboy which if anything is even crazier!