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2000 AD => Announcements => Topic started by: Cyber-Matt on 31 March, 2010, 05:10:03 PM

Title: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Cyber-Matt on 31 March, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
2000 AD announces the launch of US graphic novel line

Rebellion Publishing is pleased to announce the upcoming US launch of iconic British comic 2000 AD's US graphic novel list this June. The books are to be printed in the United States and distributed by industry major Simon and Schuster. The new North America-only list includes classic collections, outstanding new work from the hottest up-and-coming talents as well as thematic compilations, which collect the work of some of the biggest names in comics, such as Alan Moore, Dave Gibbons, Garth Ennis, Grant Morrison, Alan Davis, John Wagner, Brian Bolland, Pat Mills, Mark Millar and many others.

2000 AD will be releasing two books a month, with the first two books going on sale 15 June 2010. The first releases are:
Judge Dredd Case Files 01: a 400-page collection of John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra's iconic creation Judge Dredd – this starts an ongoing series of Judge Dredd collections, which are already European bestsellers.
The Complete D.R. & Quinch: Alan Moore and Alan Davis's comedy masterpiece, featuring a new Alan Davis cover and excerpts from Alan Moore's original script.

Founded in 1977, 2000 AD was acquired by the internationally renowned independent videogame developer Rebellion in 2000. In the ten years of its ownership, 2000 AD has gone from strength to strength, with the graphic novel collections becoming bestsellers throughout the UK and Europe. Many of the biggest names in comics today honed their skills and wrote their first important works within its pages.

For many years 2000 AD graphic novels have only been available in North America in highly sought-after imported editions through the direct comics-store market.  2000 AD has developed a large following in the United States, evident in the success the cult British comic has had selling out at every San Diego Comic-Con. This new list meets the clamouring demand from Thrill-seekers throughout North America for Judge Dredd and 2000 AD's roster of stellar characters.

Simon & Schuster, a part of CBS Corporation, is a global leader in the field of general interest publishing, dedicated to providing the best in fiction and non-fiction for consumers of all ages, across all printed, electronic, and audio formats. Its divisions include Simon & Schuster Adult Publishing, Simon & Schuster Children's Publishing, Simon & Schuster Audio, Simon & Schuster Digital, and international companies in Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom. For more information, visit: www.simonandschuster.com

Rebellion Publishing is a division of leading European independent videogames developer Rebellion. Its portfolio includes multi- award-winning British sci-fi comic 2000 AD, the 2000 AD graphic novel line, Solaris Books, the internationally acclaimed fantasy, sci-fi and horror imprint, and Abaddon Books, the imprint delivering the best up-and-coming authors in genre fiction. Rebellion Publishing is dedicated to providing the highest quality and most innovative approaches to the sci-fi, horror and fantasy genres.  For more information please visit: www.rebellion.co.uk

Available from 15 June 2010:
Judge Dredd Case Files 01 by John Wagner, Brian Bolland, Mike McMahon, Carlos Ezquerra et al - 978-1-906735-87-6, $19.99 US, $27.00 CAN
The Complete D.R & Quinch by Alan Moore & Alan Davis – 978-1906735-88-3, $17.99 US, $23.99 CAN
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Trout on 31 March, 2010, 05:11:40 PM
Nice one. Best of luck! It's about time thrill power was properly available in the third world.  ;)

- Trout
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Art on 31 March, 2010, 05:41:45 PM
Awesome! Keeping up with the casefiles from this side of the Atlantic has been a little haphazard and costly (though book depository definitely helps) so that in particular is great news. I'd be happy to see some of the non-Dredd casefiles done that way as well.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Trout on 31 March, 2010, 05:57:17 PM
I was in the fantastic comic shop in Toronto that some kind boarder recommended, and heard the usual tale of woe in terms of getting hold of 2000AD stuff. Hopefully this deal will redress the situation - there does seem to be a market, to some extent.

Sincere best wishes with this. We UK fans would love to see the word spread.

- Trout
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 31 March, 2010, 06:13:51 PM
Which one, the Beguiling or Silver Snail?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: HdE on 31 March, 2010, 06:59:36 PM
Fantastic news!

I talk to a fair few people based in the US, and whenever Dredd comes up, they're always a bit non-plussed. Here's hoping Rebellion's excellent presentation of the material wins a few more fans over there.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Mike Gloady on 31 March, 2010, 07:15:45 PM
Good luck Tharg.  Your mission to liberate Earth from the Thrill-suckers continues.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 March, 2010, 07:30:24 PM
Really hope this works - go get um
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Jared Katooie on 31 March, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Best of luck!

Case Files and D.R. and Quinch - talk about best foot forward!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 31 March, 2010, 08:45:57 PM
Lay down the Law Rebellion!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: maryanddavid on 31 March, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
From what im aware there is only a small team at the 2000ad offices now, so a huge congrats on them for pulling this deal, this is great news for U.S. readers, and if it works well it will make 2000ad and the Megs future all the safer.

Given the right conditions this could be a winner for Rebellion, when Eagle released The American Dredd in the early eighties was one of the biggest selling independents at the time, I think it sold over 200,0000 with no UK distribution.

David
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: HdE on 31 March, 2010, 11:39:06 PM
Say, that reminds me... whatever happened to the Dredd books from Dynamite?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 March, 2010, 11:45:58 PM
They blew up.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: radiator on 01 April, 2010, 07:27:58 AM
Just hope things turn out better than what happened with the similar strategy DC and Rebellion tried back in 2004/5. If there's one thing that experience showed, it's that you aren't going to break America with reprints of early Robo-Hunter, Red Razors and 'Judgment' Day!

It looks like a lot more thought has gone into the selection of material this time around, with stuff like the Dredd and Nemesis Case Files and Halo Jones at the forefront. The Dredd: Mega City Masters series running alongside the Case Files seems like a good idea too, and will hopefully help to sell Dredd as a character, showcase the range and quality of the strips over the years, and open people's eyes to such a wealth of material that has seen print AFTER 1988!

And the design and look of the books this time round is MUCH better!  :)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 01 April, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
Stevie espied the FULL RIGHT HAND PAGE AD opposite the Rebellion listings in the latest Previews today... looked ARSOM!

The thumbnail row of forthcoming titles saucily winking & fluttering their 'lashes all so mighty fine that my PIN number loosened it's tie & broke  out into a sweat.

However, not wishing to rain on anyone's parade or anything, I couldn't help but notice that the listings for Judge Dredd Case Files 01 & The Complete D.R. & Quinch are appended with "NOT AVAILABLE OUTSIDE THE US, CANADA OR US TERRITORIES"

Will these be distributed here in Auxtralia where sea-freighted progs & megs are also available in the newsagents?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 01 April, 2010, 11:08:04 AM
I must have had one too many brandies at breakfast.

I could have sworn I just read there's actually an ad in Previews.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Emperor on 01 April, 2010, 03:10:40 PM
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 01 April, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
Stevie espied the FULL RIGHT HAND PAGE AD opposite the Rebellion listings in the latest Previews today... looked ARSOM!

Any chance of a scan?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Mike Gloady on 01 April, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
Yeah, make with the evidence Stevie.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 03 April, 2010, 01:14:16 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 01 April, 2010, 03:10:40 PM
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 01 April, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
Stevie espied the FULL RIGHT HAND PAGE AD opposite the Rebellion listings in the latest Previews today... looked ARSOM!

Any chance of a scan?

Hey -- is this some sort of ruse to trick Stevie into buying Prieviews instead of reading it in-store?

Well, I guess that if Diamond won't ship these new trades to me in Auxtralia then I can at least look at the pretty ad  :D
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Emperor on 03 April, 2010, 02:33:44 AM
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 03 April, 2010, 01:14:16 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 01 April, 2010, 03:10:40 PM
Quote from: O Lucky Stevie! on 01 April, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
Stevie espied the FULL RIGHT HAND PAGE AD opposite the Rebellion listings in the latest Previews today... looked ARSOM!

Any chance of a scan?

Hey -- is this some sort of ruse to trick Stevie into buying Prieviews instead of reading it in-store?

Not necessarily - you could always try and scan it in the store. ;) I do think it'd be better to take a portable hand scanner, as asking them if they could plug a full-size one in might be pushing the envelope just a week bit too far.  :o
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Proudhuff on 03 April, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
Good Luck Thargy! a foot in the door, lets hope its in a Dredd size boot!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Mike Gloady on 03 April, 2010, 03:21:31 PM
Not the size he WEARS you understand, more the size he OUGHT to wear......
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 03 April, 2010, 11:33:22 PM
It's true!  Soylent Green is a cookbook!  Dogs and cats are living together!  There's an ad in Previews!!

(http://pics.livejournal.com/hipsterdad/pic/003ab05e)

It's the end times!!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 04 April, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
That's what you look like?

I want a refund.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 April, 2010, 01:35:34 AM
Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 04 April, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
That's what you look like?

I want a refund.


Just like your mother...and you can take that anyway you like, she does.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: flesario on 04 April, 2010, 12:17:13 PM
Am still a bit worried that very early Dredd could be a turn off. Case files 1 is, lets be honest, nostalgia. Great at the time and still wonderful for the likes of us but to win new people over?

Why not a collection of one proggers or shorts that are selected on the basis they make a good introduction to the character and world, presented as such?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 April, 2010, 06:21:50 PM
Slight thread drift here but Grant is that you're collection, or part there of? That looks like a very nice set up. Can we see more?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 04 April, 2010, 06:45:47 PM
Ha!  No, that's actually Great Escape Comics & Games here in Mayretta, Georgia.  Not a bad store, but not a patch on the similarly-named chain of arsom shops in Tennessee and Kentucky.

My own library is much, much cooler.  Only not as well-lit.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 April, 2010, 06:54:06 PM
The comics on the wall at the back made me wonder. Still you could always take a camera around the shop and pretend then I wouldn't look so daft?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: SuperSurfer on 05 April, 2010, 12:18:27 AM
USA editions covers, it seems:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TdaHiVGOL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61rMsccNWuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519b%2BXoVJkL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Gibbons ABC cover?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Trout on 05 April, 2010, 12:22:09 AM
Sorry, Grant. Just saw your question. It was The Beguiling, and I believe you must have recommended it.

Great place. Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 05 April, 2010, 11:49:34 AM
That ABC cover is the dogs. A really nice piece of design work there chaps.

Grant- please tell us that photo is of some chap who happened to be in the store- Surely you look like your avatar?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 05 April, 2010, 03:49:30 PM
Yeah, that's me, overweight, jowly shatterer-of-dreams that I am.

The Beguiling really is one of the best bookstores of any kind that I've ever visited.  Looks like we're not going to get to take our Canada trip this year, and I am unhappy that I won't get to visit it!

And, back on the topic, it occurs to me that I guess I should have scanned the ad more closely so that everybody could see how amazing the new Harry 20 cover is.  Good one, Alan Davis!

(Now, if only they'll have matching spines...)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: vzzbux on 05 April, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
That D.R and Quinch would be worth a duplicate just for the cover.








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Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Large48 on 06 April, 2010, 09:27:20 AM
Yes I can see (at least) me and CF having to buy yet another copy of each of these......

One way of making the figures meet the targets I guess!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Danbo on 14 May, 2010, 06:43:03 PM
2000AD wants to try and take on my home town in England,tried to buy a copy of 2000ad or a Dredd mag for the first time in years(im a 35 yr old graphic novel type) and was denied in 2 newsies,both local and WH smiths...gutted.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Christov on 14 May, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
Glad the US are getting some more Dredd stuff.
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Post by: maryanddavid on 15 May, 2010, 12:23:35 AM
Mega City Masters look good, might pick them up. It looks like 2000ad is getting the push it needs in the States, the more they sell, the better for 2000ad.

David
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Emperor on 15 May, 2010, 12:33:32 AM
I see they have a dedicated page for this now:
http://www.2000adonline.com/us/

Quote from: flesario on 04 April, 2010, 12:17:13 PM
Am still a bit worried that very early Dredd could be a turn off. Case files 1 is, lets be honest, nostalgia. Great at the time and still wonderful for the likes of us but to win new people over?

Why not a collection of one proggers or shorts that are selected on the basis they make a good introduction to the character and world, presented as such?

They are doing that too with the Mega City Masters - two volume focused on writers and artists that are recognisable in the American market.

And while Case Files #1 might not be an ideal place to start with Dredd, I think we have kicked this around a bit and some suggest CF #3 (oooooo look CF) would be, and by the time the film is out there should be quite a few Case Files out so it should be covered on that front.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Proudhuff on 15 May, 2010, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 May, 2010, 06:43:03 PM
2000AD wants to try and take on my home town in England,tried to buy a copy of 2000ad or a Dredd mag for the first time in years(im a 35 yr old graphic novel type) and was denied in 2 newsies,both local and WH smiths...gutted.

Get yersell a subbie, not only no more rejection but also you get em early, on Saturday's mostly.

Favorite recent heard thing in HUff Mansions: 'Leave your Dad alone he's reading his comic, you know how he is'
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 May, 2010, 07:20:12 AM
Spammer reported.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Robo-K33F on 18 May, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: vzzbux on 05 April, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
That D.R and Quinch would be worth a duplicate just for the cover.

Glad you like it.  The Agony Pages have been printed full colour and Alan Davis has also provided some rare sketches and Alan Moore script.

Harry 20 also contains some sketches from Alan and a cracking introduction.






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Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: fresno bob on 19 May, 2010, 07:36:27 PM
Wonderful! No more shipping cost from the UK to the US.Hopefully it will also cut into Marvel and DC crossover craziness and force those publishers to produce quality stories, but I doubt it.
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Post by: Large48 on 20 May, 2010, 01:45:12 PM
So how do we order these versions then?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 21 May, 2010, 02:40:09 PM
Is that Simon & Schuster instead of Rebellion
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: The Adventurer on 27 May, 2010, 10:53:23 AM
This is splendid news all around. Unfortunately I've spent much of the last 3 or 4 years importing rebellion's own trades, so things are looking a bit redundant for the foreseeable future. (Zombo and Harry 20 are pretty much the only two on my radar.) I already had to go through replacing many of the DC era trades (that got me into 2000AD), I am NOT going through that again.

But its nice to have the books actually printed and distributed over here, it should alleviate many of the distribution woes us Yanks occasionally have to deal with (still waiting on Cabs Inc vol.2 and Storming Heaven, Rebellion. Still.)  I personally think Rebellion should hook up with Image or Dark Horse and sell 2000AD itself over here through their distribution channels (premier status in Previews!), Either by sticking with a weekly format, or binding a month's worth of issues together in single monthly issue.

Again, would save many a headache just getting the damn thing. And bring the price down too boot. Ah.... dreams.


But I digress... By the way, I don't see any information on the all important question. One that often keeps me tossing and turning it night...

What will the spines look like?!  :lol:
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 27 May, 2010, 11:03:10 AM
Diamond canceled Cabs 2 and Storming Heaven after orders were too low; you'll need to buy those off Amazon UK or some such.

As for the spines, I am all set to buy a new copy of The Meknificent Seven just as soon as I can confirm it'll match the rest of the set.  Don't let me down, Simon & Schuster design department!
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Post by: Steel Rabbit on 02 July, 2010, 12:33:02 AM
Do the contents of the US ones match the UK ones exactly? I'm tempted to still get the UK ones based on the look of the covers of the US editions, but they are cheaper.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: I, Cosh on 02 July, 2010, 12:45:11 AM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 27 May, 2010, 11:03:10 AM
As for the spines, I am all set to buy a new copy of The Meknificent Seven just as soon as I can confirm it'll match the rest of the set.  Don't let me down, Simon & Schuster design department!
The new printing of the UK edition does, but who can say what could happen...

Saw Stainless Steel Rat in Forbidden Planet tonight. A nice looking collection but a bit pricey for what it is.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Emperor on 02 July, 2010, 07:00:49 PM
Seems this is generating interest from over the Pond (although old news to us), Spread the Word:

www.denofgeek.com/comics/526893/2000ad_us_comic_book_roundup.html
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 02 July, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Hate to say it, but neither Borders nor B&N have these in stores - they're online only.  B&N was willing to order a copy with no obligation to buy, so I'll see it next week and tell you what I think.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 03 July, 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Picked up D.R & Quinch, it's brilliant.  More detailed discussion of the contents in the News forum.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Patrick Walsh. on 13 July, 2010, 07:01:20 PM
Anyone else remember those american sized editions of the prog? It really annoyed me when the formatting didn't match up and the art was distorted!

I think it was under a 'Fleetway' banner - I will have to dig them out to make sure.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: vzzbux on 13 July, 2010, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: Patrick Walsh. on 13 July, 2010, 07:01:20 PM
Anyone else remember those american sized editions of the prog? It really annoyed me when the formatting didn't match up and the art was distorted!

I think it was under a 'Fleetway' banner - I will have to dig them out to make sure.
They were sold under the eagle banner for the american market then released over here. Dredd started at issue 15 in the UK.







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Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 July, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
I'm surprised an American Dredd written,drawn and coloured by an American based Graphic House never got going. :-*

The Warhammer 40 K Comic was fairly successful in the UK before it was shut down and the licence was picked up by the American based BOOM! studios in 2006 producing some good quality stuff.

I guess licencing, copyright and commercial issues have scuppured any attempts to produce an American Dredd exclusively for the American Comic book market. Maybe if the film does well they'll reconsider licencing though some might object to a very British icon being drawn say by Marvel or D.C artists but I suspects it's the only way they'll be able to sell old granite face to the mass of the American Comic book audience.
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Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2010, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 July, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
Maybe if the film does well they'll reconsider licencing though some might object to a very British icon being drawn say by Marvel or D.C artists but I suspects it's the only way they'll be able to sell old granite face to the mass of the American Comic book audience.

It didn't work last time.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 13 July, 2010, 09:48:31 PM
Did they really produce a US Comic version of Dredd to compliment the 1995 film?

Who? What? Where? :o
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 13 July, 2010, 10:06:39 PM
I seem to recall getting one somewhere. It wasn't all that good.Though frankly i barely remember it.
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Post by: The Adventurer on 13 July, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
Was it this series?

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8593/445118279641.gif)
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Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2010, 11:40:43 PM
That's one of two DC Dredd series from the time, and both were equally awful. One was more akin to British Dredd, with scripts by what appeared to be a very bored John Wagner. The other series was effectively a reboot, with a bizarrely rewritten backstory for Dredd (who was, as I recall, an utter psycho). Awful stuff without exception and not even worth reading if you can get copies for free.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 13 July, 2010, 11:44:14 PM
I managed to get a letter published in one of those, beat that Buttonman and Proudhuff  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 14 July, 2010, 08:43:42 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 13 July, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
Was it this series?

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8593/445118279641.gif)

I bought that issue for my sins, and never bought another.  Muck of the first order.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: dracula1 on 14 July, 2010, 09:07:37 AM
Trust them to f**k things up again!
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Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 July, 2010, 10:53:13 AM
Blimey! I must admit I can't remember this at all. Must have missed it and by all accounts I didn't miss a thing. :)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: vzzbux on 14 July, 2010, 09:53:15 PM
I think we are talking more these rather than DC. Well I am anyway.

(http://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Uploads/Images/3c468a8c-13e7-46b7-9337-4ee9.jpg)






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Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 July, 2010, 12:46:11 AM
Those weren't that much better, especially when they became (lack of) Quality Comics, which had the habit of recutting/resizing art, and even leaving the past bit of a story off, especially when it only covered a half page. Awful, awful stuff.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: TordelBack on 15 July, 2010, 07:40:12 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 15 July, 2010, 12:46:11 AM
Those weren't that much better

Ah, but they were accessible and affordable in a way the Titan albums weren't.  I first read the whole of Block Mania and the Apocalypse War in Eagle reprints bought from a newsagent beside the hospital my sick granny was in.  My enthusiasm for visiting was inspiring. 
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 15 July, 2010, 08:34:12 AM
Quote
Ah, but they were accessible and affordable in a way the Titan albums weren't.  I first read the whole of Block Mania and the Apocalypse War in Eagle reprints bought from a newsagent beside the hospital my sick granny was in.  My enthusiasm for visiting was inspiring.

I bought the same ones second hand for about 50c each when I was unemployed and broke. So no complaints from me either
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
They were worth it for the covers alone.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 July, 2010, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 July, 2010, 07:40:12 AMAh, but they were accessible and affordable in a way the Titan albums weren't.
Oh, I agree. I bought a whole pile of these, including the second Nemesis run (with some of the worst cover art I've ever seen), loads of Dredd ones, and a handful of others. As I got older, though, I was increasingly narked with the poor repro, dreadful cutting, and so on, and luckily chanced upon a (dearly departed) comics shop in Aldershot that had piles of 2000 AD Monthlies for naff-all. Now _those_ were good reprint!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: vzzbux on 16 July, 2010, 11:40:13 PM
I got caught skiving by my dad while sitting on a bench reading the eagle block mania issue. Speech bubble "Looks like block manias hotting up". He never did tell my mum.
And the covers were absolute Bolland class.






V
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Peter Wolf on 17 July, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
Quality Comics reprints of 2000ad strips were attrocious.I bought one copy but the artwork was colored and distorted and unreadable.

Horrible horible horrible
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 July, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 14 July, 2010, 09:53:15 PM
I think we are talking more these rather than DC. Well I am anyway.

IAMTHESYSTEM very specifically brought up the idea of new Dredd material by US creators to try and sell the character in the States, which is what prompted me to bring up the DC Dredds, since these were an attempt at this very thing and which were, charitably, not very good.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 17 July, 2010, 05:33:30 PM
Quote from: Peter Wolf on 17 July, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
Quality Comics reprints of 2000ad strips were attrocious.I bought one copy but the artwork was colored and distorted and unreadable.

Horrible horible horrible

Arh the irony of those terrible things being called 'Quality Comics' is wonderful!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Leigh S on 17 July, 2010, 06:06:45 PM
John Byrne wrote one of those DC Dredds didnt he? The one which rewrote Judge Morphs "end" IIRC and otherwise missed the continuity and spirit of the character - though arguably in no worse a fashion than the other writers who had a pop.   
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: briantm on 17 July, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
It's the french market they should be trying to get into!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: das on 18 July, 2010, 02:34:31 AM
Quote from: fresno bob on 19 May, 2010, 07:36:27 PM
Wonderful! No more shipping cost from the UK to the US.Hopefully it will also cut into Marvel and DC crossover craziness and force those publishers to produce quality stories, but I doubt it.



bwah ha ha ha
Marvel and DC will never let go of the tights !
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 18 July, 2010, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: briantm on 17 July, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
It's the french market they should be trying to get into!

Yes, if Jose O Ladronn, Moebius, Juan Gimenez drew Judge Dredd I'd happily buy it.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: James Stacey on 19 July, 2010, 10:29:11 AM
Quote from: briantm on 17 July, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
It's the french market they should be trying to get into!
Isn't that why the Langley ABC warriors books (and things like Red Seas) get printed in larger format hard backs, to appeal to the Euro market ?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 19 July, 2010, 03:37:39 PM
QuoteJohn Byrne wrote one of those DC Dredds didnt he? The one which rewrote Judge Morphs "end" IIRC and otherwise missed the continuity and spirit of the character

...or the core essence, if you will.  

Not that i've read it myself. I've just become addicted to the study of JB's huge ego.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: das on 28 July, 2010, 04:46:27 AM
as glad as i am to see dredd et al getting attention in the usa.
i think rebellion and us fans make a mistake by lumping 2000ad as a comic book.
it's a lot more,
it's an anthology magazine running at a brainbusting weekly schedule.
trying to retailor it or retweak it so it seems american is untrue to its strenghs.

dammit i love the progs
i hate the reprints, i hate the comics, i HATE the digital.

long live the prog !!!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: The Adventurer on 28 July, 2010, 05:01:10 AM
2000 AD is a comic book. Lets not get carried away here.  The format is definitely unique (weeeeeeell, the monthly/weekly anthology format is actually pretty damn popular in Japan. They certainly have more then one title in the format too) and a tough sell to Joe American Comic Reader.  But, honestly, I think the cost and availability is the only thing holding it back from being moderately successful over here.

If Rebellion teamed up with Image or Dark Horse to publish 2000 AD domestically, I think it could have a fair shake.  Hell, I'd be for a slight format change to make it even more accessible, take a month's worth of progs, and bind them together in one monthly book. A 100 page monster each month with the contents of the equivalent progs inside.  That would get US reader's attention, and be something they could digest/understand format wise.

EDIT: I would also totally and without question buy the Prog (and Meg) if it was avalible on ComiXology's Comics App. All day, every day, till the end of days.

At any rate, S&S trades own. I got my copy of DR & Quinch and couldn't be happier. A)Price is much cheaper then importing was. B)Tradedress is the same (SPINES!) C)Same quality as before.  Best thing ever. Now lets see if the line lasts,  I have my fears after the DC debacle.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: das on 30 July, 2010, 06:33:31 AM
no it is a magazine format anthology.
it has the editorial style of a magazine.
as such 2000AD the prog should be on the magazine racks at every barnes & noble and other corporate book store in the us.

all the graphic novels and la-te-da  are the spewing brats of the PROG.

I champion the mighty PROG, may it flourish and find new audiences!
(er and i like the megazine a bit too)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Toni Scandella on 30 July, 2010, 08:47:58 AM
It's a UK style comic book.  They were all anthologies here when 2000AD started, from The Beano to Krazy to Warlord to Action to Battle to 2000AD to Roy of the Rovers.  That's just how we have always done comcis.  The American format, with just the one story, punctuated with adverts, always seemed alien to me and is still a format I find difficult to get into, which is probably one of the main reasons I have never bought any US comics, though have several graphic novel collections.

But it's all comics, and that's nothing to be ashamed of :)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Steve Green on 30 July, 2010, 09:38:43 AM
I think the monthly idea or something more substantial is a great idea...

I'm obviously the wrong market, but maybe an extended prog, maybe fortnightly, along the lines of the Christmas progs might be a consideration.

Also back it up with an official wiki on stories to give a background for new readers?
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Judge Olde on 30 July, 2010, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: briantm on 17 July, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
It's the french market they should be trying to get into!

We often have one of those locally AND sometimes a German one too  :D
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Zarjazzer on 04 August, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
probably up somwehere here, but just in case-

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27617

US 2000AD related books.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: das on 04 August, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
nope not interested  in a usa mock-prog.

after the deal with Simon and Shuster, rebellion should treat the prog like a mag,and hit every news stand in every corporate book store and  tell diamond to frak off!
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: radiator on 04 August, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
As much as I love the Case Files design, does any one else feel a teensy bit jealous when they see the US versions?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AB9eBlA6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: James Stacey on 04 August, 2010, 01:30:12 PM
it does have 'not final cover' written on the top of it though
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2010, 02:54:51 PM
Yep—that's just a placeholder. Either way, I like the design of the mono UK editions. Not so keen on the format now the pics are in colour, but they're still pretty good.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: The Adventurer on 04 August, 2010, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: radiator on 04 August, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
As much as I love the Case Files design, does any one else feel a teensy bit jealous when they see the US versions?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AB9eBlA6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Nope, UK tradedress is superior IMO. I do hope the cover changes a bit for the actual release.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Grant Goggans on 04 August, 2010, 08:13:43 PM
It makes sense to me as far as a line-wide, consistent trade dress.  It's not as imaginative or striking as the British editions, but there's certainly nothing like these from domestic publishers.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: radiator on 04 August, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
I like the UK Case Files too, but I'm just imagining what a full run of the US ones would look like - all different headshots by Bolland, Dillon, Smith, Ezquerra, Kennedy....
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Woolly on 04 August, 2010, 08:25:28 PM
Although i prefer the British covers, those US ones will certainly stand out in a crowd!
Great stuff.
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Judge Olde on 06 August, 2010, 05:23:07 PM
Quote from: Woolly on 04 August, 2010, 08:25:28 PM
Although i prefer the British covers, those US ones will certainly stand out in a crowd!
Great stuff.

I concur
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 20 August, 2010, 10:21:40 AM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 04 August, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
probably up somwehere here, but just in case-

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27617

US 2000AD related books.

Very interesting, and glad to see 2000AD getting such a big push in the States. One odd thing about these 2000AD in America articles is they never mention the Judge Dredd Megazine's existence. I get that monthly through Diamond, and I hope they continue to carry that title even after they introduce these US remix things.

I've picked up some of the new graphic novels too, like Death Lives, very high quality stuff.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JUDGE DREDD TAKES ON THE US!
Post by: Dreddzilla on 07 September, 2010, 02:55:40 AM
Quote from: Grant Goggans on 02 July, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Hate to say it, but neither Borders nor B&N have these in stores - they're online only.  B&N was willing to order a copy with no obligation to buy, so I'll see it next week and tell you what I think.
That's changed for the better sense I'm seeing DREDD in Books A Million & B&N. :thumbsup: