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Title: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Colin Zeal on 12 January, 2011, 11:27:38 AM
Mods: Wasn't sure if I should put this here or in help so feel free to move if you think it best.

This year will see me attending my first con since I was a teenager, and will be the first time I approach any droids for sketches. I was wondering what the general form for doing this is. Is there a generally accepted size of pad that I should bring along? I'm not planning on bringing an A3 book but is A5 the "right" one? Are there any other general things I should know about the process?

thanks.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 January, 2011, 11:39:54 AM
Get really steaming drunk and make an utter knob of yourself by drawing 'hilarious' 'comedy' cocks and spliffs on any sketch you're asked for... or perhaps that's just Simon Bisley?

Otherwise- no rules really! I've got an A4 pad, although I haven't got a sketch in it for ages.
Expect to queue for the more famous chaps, although sometimes you'll get lucky. Some of them charge for a sketch- although some (I had named one here, but removed it in case they don't want it mentioned in public) donate this money to charity.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Proudhuff on 12 January, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
Check the Cosplay thread for the dress code.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: davethomson on 12 January, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
Best thing I learned about getting sketches off the artists, ask for truly absurd sketches like Hellboy riding a giant gerbil or Superman washing dishes. That usually gets them interested enough to produce some cracking good (and entirely unique) sketches.



Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: HOO-HAA on 12 January, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
I remember at last year's World Horror Con they had a workshop on 'how to behave at a convention' and it really got my goat up. For God's sake do this:

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 January, 2011, 11:39:54 AM
Get really steaming drunk and make an utter knob of yourself

... or something similar. AKA relax, enjoy yourself and give a very wide birth to anyone who wants to tell you 'how to behave'.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: TordelBack on 12 January, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Insist on an invoice for each sketch, and get a receipt.  Otherwise how will the artists be able to explain this income on their tax returns? 
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Bolt-01 on 12 January, 2011, 01:42:23 PM
Also, if it is an actual droid you are visiting, make sure you have a copy of Zarjaz, Dogbreath or other title that they can sign for you...

And if you don't have a copy, see me :)
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: pauljholden on 12 January, 2011, 01:50:43 PM
Any size of sketchbook is acceptable, but many of them will balk if they see A3 (it's also a pain in the arse to drag around).

Make sure the paper is a decent thickness and have a bit of hard card between sheets in case an artist (as many do) use a thick marker that bleeds.

If you want a themed sketchbook then get some reference of the character you want sketched (even if it's Dredd) - and keep a couple of copies of the reference (you may accidentally lose it the first day).

MOST artists will charge, this is because, for them, signing/sketching is how they justify the expense of a convention - many artists will work through weekends and evenings so a comic con means losing out on some substantial income (and if they have their own table, they've probably paid for that too).

Say hello and try and be chatting and make friends with people in queues - don't be afraid to ask to see someone else's sketchbook - this stuff is much better shared.

See ya!

-pj
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Colin Zeal on 12 January, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
Thanks for the advice everyone. It was mainly the stuff on approaching droids that I was unclear on. I'm already worried that I will may lose the ability to talk with some artists and will just stand there dribbling while they ask what I would like.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Spaceghost on 12 January, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Colin Zeal on 12 January, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
Thanks for the advice everyone. It was mainly the stuff on approaching droids that I was unclear on. I'm already worried that I will may lose the ability to talk with some artists and will just stand there dribbling while they ask what I would like.

I was worried about looking a prat when I went to my first con a couple of years ago. The only advice I can give is to take the opportunity to talk to your favourite droids. Most arty types are clever, articulate sorts and they'll appreciate a bit of a chin wag rather than having someone standing, wordlessly in front of them while they complete a sketch.

Unless I've completely misread the situation and they were all just wishing I'd shut up and fuck off.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 January, 2011, 02:15:22 PM
If you pause at a table and the over-enthusiastic stallholder thrusts a comic into your hands, don't assume it's a freebie and just say thanks and walk off (as I did once to my embarrassment!)
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Bolt-01 on 12 January, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
Lee, you hit the nail on the head there. I had an absolutely fantastic chat with Simon Fraser at Hi-Ex last whilst he sketched for me. A really nice chap- and very articulate, too.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: HdE on 12 January, 2011, 04:53:34 PM
Only advice I can offer is: If in doubt about approaching folks whose work you admire, it may be best to wait until everybody hits the bar and things are a little more relaxed.

This worked for me at my first convention last year. I actually budgeted a huge sum for drinkie-poohz, knowing that it was my best chance to get into conversation with folks. Some of the artists were even willing to doodle stuff as they sat in an easy chair with a pint. If the event lasts for a coupel of days, get in witht he beer quick, and you'll likely be remembered the following day.

Beyond that, just try very hard not to behave like an absolute knob-rocker. I doubt you'll have a problem with that, Colin. :)

Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 January, 2011, 05:50:38 PM
Write a twelve panel 2 or 3 page dredd script. Keep each panel description simple.
Approach each individual artist you admire. When they ask what you'd like, casually describe a panel of your script.
When you get home, paste it all together and letter it.
Hang it on your wall.
Masturbate.

SBT
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: TordelBack on 12 January, 2011, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 January, 2011, 05:50:38 PM
Write a twelve panel 2 or 3 page dredd script. Keep each panel description simple.
Approach each individual artist you admire. When they ask what you'd like, casually describe a panel of your script.
When you get home, paste it all together and letter it.
Hang it on your wall.
Masturbate.

But very definitely in that order.  Unless you're short on paste.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: JOE SOAP on 12 January, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
I think streaking is a requirement at every con.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: LARF on 12 January, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
1. Find the FutureQuake / Zarjaz stand - this is normally used as a focal point for most of us

2. Buy a lot of the above and make Dave happy

3. Ditto the above and make Rich happy

4. etc. the above and make everyone who contributes happy

5. If dave has his chinese list to hand get on it

6. Go on the above chinese

7. get ratted meet lots of like minded people draw stupid pictures (see Richmond's post)

8. Have your photo taken with prawn crackers for eyes and noodles ala Master Shi-Fu

9. Go to the pub, get ratted

10. Walk back to your hotel in the morning, forget where it is, get lost, get a kebab, find the hotel, find the bed, read comics fall asleep with the light on, wake up at 7 after two hours sleep, shower, read comics go back to bed...

11. Go to the Con with shades on smelling like a brewery, Go to the FutureQuake / Zarjaz stand and meet the rest of the brewery
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Richmond Clements on 12 January, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
LARF- you forgot

12. Do not know who Doug Bradley is.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Daveycandlish on 12 January, 2011, 09:30:03 PM
Never approach an artist from directly in front - this spooks them

Never look one directly in the eye

Never approach one at the urinals




Buy them beer

Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 12 January, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Be sexy. Always sexy.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: LARF on 12 January, 2011, 11:04:30 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 12 January, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
LARF- you forgot

12. Do not know who Doug Bradley is.

:lol:

You always have to remind me don't you?
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 12 January, 2011, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 12 January, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Be sexy. Always sexy.

This.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Large48 on 13 January, 2011, 08:48:05 AM
SBT I always thought you just did your last point first at the Con?
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Dunk! on 13 January, 2011, 08:59:18 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 12 January, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Be sexy. Always sexy.

Can't help that.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Richmond Clements on 13 January, 2011, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Dunk! on 13 January, 2011, 08:59:18 AM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 12 January, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Be sexy. Always sexy.

Can't help that.

He's right. He can't.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 13 January, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
Pick up everything on a stand to look everything and then don't buy it. If you think you can pull off a crotch scratch then go for it, but keep that shit subtle.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Colin Zeal on 13 January, 2011, 02:40:38 PM
I've always preferred to be as brazen as possible when it comes to the crotch scratching. Look someone directly in the face as you do it as if to say "yeah, I'm doing it. What's it to do with you?"
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: Peter Wolf on 13 January, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
What about asking the artist if you can get them a drink or something like that while you are waiting and while the artist cant leave their table as they are busy sketching for you ?

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: HOO-HAA on 14 January, 2011, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 January, 2011, 05:50:38 PM
Masturbate like it's 1999!

Fixed that for you, dude...

Title: Re: Rules/expected behaviour at conventions
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 January, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
Ah yes, well, back then all bets were off!
SBT