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Title: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 13 January, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
Here first picture of Andrew Garfield in costume.

Looks like very Ultimate Spider-Man to me.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Zarjazzer on 13 January, 2011, 09:46:28 PM
Pffft. Bags too big and spider symbol too small . And he's unmasked. God! Don't these Hollywood idiots know anything? It would be much better if they just shot all involved and let ME direct and write it.

*Goes on deluded/uninteresting/self aggrandising raving for 1000 pages*.

But seriously it looks fine to me. Though it's hard to judge from just one picture. :D
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 13 January, 2011, 09:51:32 PM
All ready posted.

http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31562.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 13 January, 2011, 09:57:13 PM
With Emma Stone as Gwen.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Zarjazzer on 13 January, 2011, 10:03:17 PM
ooh she's a purty lady. I'm dumping Lena for her. *

Actually she'd have made a fine Judge Anderson. Though the other lady's nice too. But what if she fell on her bread and dripping that she's having for tea?

Well Emma Stone could zip in.









*delusions i have had Vol.100,500,878
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 13 January, 2011, 10:14:50 PM
Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone as Peter and Gwen.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 13 January, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
Still can't see the need for this, but it dose look like it might be alright.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 13 January, 2011, 11:01:36 PM
That costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 13 January, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Glenn Beck fucking loves the musical.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 13 January, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
QuoteThat costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?

That isn't Spider-Man's costume?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2011, 12:10:41 AM
He's actually more like the old Spidey, look at those practical -inorganic- Webshooters:



Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 14 January, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
He looks like he's been in a fight where he may or may not have got his ass handed to him, so it's not gonna be minty boxfresh, yo.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Cthulouis on 14 January, 2011, 12:15:54 AM
I also thought that looked like spider-man's costume, but then, I'm not a fan.

Haha, reminds me of the debate going on around a certain other comic franchise that is being made into a film. Hang on, was that the joke?

Also reminds me of that post on the John Byrn forum where someone got kicked off for saying they thought Spider-man had a blue costume.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 12:18:43 AM
I really liked the organic web-shooters. I always hated in Spider-man (and Ultimate) the "Oh noes, I'm so poor, and it costs LOADS of money for web fluid" crap. The organic shooters thing seemed a nice fix to deal with that.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 January, 2011, 12:36:42 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 January, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
QuoteThat costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?

That isn't Spider-Man's costume?

It looks similar to the casual observer but there have been numerous, pointless changes made, presumably to distance the film from the Sam Raimi series.

Just seems like change for the sake of it. The suit was spot on in those films.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 08:29:14 AM
Pics look okay. I've absolutely no knowledge about this film though. By reboot do they mean its going to be the origin, again? Seems a bit redundant if so. Still, my son is only now at the age where hes digging superheroes so it will be fun going to this with him.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 January, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
The costume seems ok. Just looks a little over elaborate. Still until we see it a bit more and how it moves I'll hold judgement. Still optimistic about this one.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 January, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
Oh, just, VOM. That looks like one of those 90s Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider/ Clone Spidey costumes. It's all wrong. What the hell is wrong with the one Steve Ditko designed?

SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: the shutdown man on 14 January, 2011, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 14 January, 2011, 12:36:42 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 January, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
QuoteThat costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?

That isn't Spider-Man's costume?

It looks similar to the casual observer but there have been numerous, pointless changes made, presumably to distance the film from the Sam Raimi series.

Just seems like change for the sake of it. The suit was spot on in those films.

Are you seriously saying these words?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 14 January, 2011, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: the shutdown man on 14 January, 2011, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 14 January, 2011, 12:36:42 AM
Quote from: radiator on 13 January, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
QuoteThat costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?

That isn't Spider-Man's costume?

It looks similar to the casual observer but there have been numerous, pointless changes made, presumably to distance the film from the Sam Raimi series.

Just seems like change for the sake of it. The suit was spot on in those films.

Are you seriously saying these words?

No, I'm typing them.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: uncle fester on 14 January, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Sorry, remind me - What's the point of making Spider-Man again?

There was an 'origins' movie in 2002, a sequel in 2004 which I still haven't seen all the way through as it's stunningly effective for curing insomnia (five attempted viewings to date) and a god-awful 3rd in 2007 which I stayed awake during to witness a fucking dance routine.

So three movies in 5 years, a four year break and now the movie industry says it's time to start the whole thing again. Presumably our attention spans aren't long enough to remember the last lot???

What next? A re-boot of Iron Man? Or shall we just give it another three years and do another Spider-Man origins movie? Oh no, wait, there's another reboot of Superman in the offing because Batman did so well. Well, that's alright then. For a minute there I thought the industry ideas factory was dying on its arse.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 January, 2011, 10:33:11 AM
Quote from: uncle fester on 14 January, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Sorry, remind me - What's the point of making Spider-Man again?

While I stand by the fact that I'm curiously optimistic about the new Spidey film I do completely agree with this point. It does seem a bit weird that a 'reboot' , for want of a better term, is required. If for no other reason than the fact you have to once again squirm as a movie tries to get away with using hockey 60's reasons for the origins of superpowers!

I say 'if for no other reason' but there's clearly loads more (from my perspective I'm sure Hollywood big wig types have very good reasons to 're-boot' so soon) better reasons.

And you don't like Spidey 2?!? I love that one, best of the lot.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: uncle fester on 14 January, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 14 January, 2011, 10:33:11 AM
I'm sure Hollywood big wig types have very good reasons to 're-boot' so soon

Cash?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2011, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.


You're insane.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.

I might actually watch a Potter film if Gilliam directed one!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
Quote from: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.
I might actually watch a Potter film if Gilliam directed one!
That being the point. I don't really care for the line—I read the first three books, but then gave up, because I found them pretty dull, and the movies are hardly riveting. But there's some decent enough storytelling and concepts in there that Gilliam could do something pretty interesting with. Of course, there'd only be one film and it'd go 100%+ over budget, but it'd be interesting!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2011, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.

I might actually watch a Potter film if Gilliam directed one!

Well, that Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban was nearly Gilliam's style!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 14 January, 2011, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
It is insane. Mind you, I'd quite like to see the Harry Potter series rebooted, although only if it was given lock, stock and barrel to Gilliam.

I might actually watch a Potter film if Gilliam directed one!

Well, that Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban was nearly Gilliam's style!

Was it? I've only seen the first...and maybe a bit of the second. But only because my wife wanted to watch them. She was a big fan of the books but even she gave up on the movies so no further reason for me to watch them!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 14 January, 2011, 12:06:50 PM
Quote from: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
Was it? I've only seen the first...and maybe a bit of the second. But only because my wife wanted to watch them. She was a big fan of the books but even she gave up on the movies so no further reason for me to watch them!

by third, it gone into darkest....
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: willthemightyW on 14 January, 2011, 12:10:02 PM
Okay, I haven't read many spiderman comics. Well that's a lie, I went through a phase a few years back where I read them, and I will probably start again. Why did he have the non-organic shooters again in ultimate spiderman, was it because he had all the other powers but not the webs?
I don't know much when it comes to spiderman.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 14 January, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
Oh, just, VOM. That looks like one of those 90s Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider/ Clone Spidey costumes. It's all wrong. What the hell is wrong with the one Steve Ditko designed?

SBT

Remember all that nonsense. My God it went on for about five years. I actually bought all of them, have them at home in a big box. It was actually okay until they (as usual) pussied out and backpedalled on everything they'd done during the story. I think thats what eventually made me quit Marvel. No matter what big, shocking, status quo changing story they did, as soon as the creative team changed a great big reset button got pressed and the whole thing ended up pointless. Not sure if thats still the case at Marvel or not asI havent read a Marvel comic in about 12 years.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 January, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
None of the films are remotely close to Gilliam. They lack imagination and wonder; they're so pedestrian (despite a little more visual flair in Azkaban) that it's pretty depressing.

QuoteWhy did he have the non-organic shooters again in ultimate spiderman, was it because he had all the other powers but not the webs?
Because Bendis decided to be slavish to the original. In Ultimate, the whole webs thing is just irritating. Barely an issue goes by without him shooting so much webbing everywhere that you wonder what's going on, and then with him moaning about how expensive it is to buy and make. Suspension of disbelief goes out the window. The organic thing just makes more sense. He can already stick to walls and he already has 'spider sense', so is it really a leap to have him able to produce webbing? If anything, it makes more sense than "I am a 15-year-old science nerd who can make stuff even the brightest boffins on the planet can't".
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 14 January, 2011, 01:00:00 PM
I think the clone saga went on for most of the nineties actually! perverse old sod that i am, i bought the first two volumes in the collected series, but as yet havent got round to reading them. They're phonebookesque in themselves, and i dont even think we're halfway through yet.
Call me old fashioned, but i like to have the confidence that a story is going somewhere...
SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: DrRocka on 14 January, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
Tell you what though, I'd be the first to say that having a Spidey reboot is absolute bo**ocks of the lowest order, but I also though, of the last three films that only the second one was any cop.
This actually looks quite bang on, if it's an Ultimate Spiderman movie. And that was a tremendous comic, up until about issue 107 or so, when they changed the original artist, and it all became a little bit too contentious. But the way the did the clone saga was amazing - really good writing that tied up loads of loose ends from the previous 100 or so issues.
And I'm the same - that original Clone Saga was what made me turn my back on Marvel fr good. That and the fact that no one can die in the Marvel universe. Christ.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2011, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: DrRocka on 14 January, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
that original Clone Saga was what made me turn my back on Marvel fr good. That and the fact that no one can die in the Marvel universe. Christ.



The original Spidey Clone Saga was 1973.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Leigh S on 14 January, 2011, 11:38:40 PM
I enjoyed the first two Raimi Spides (never got to see the thrid til it came on TV, and wasnt that impressed).  Then I got the phonebooks of 60s spider-man, and my opinion of the films dropped somewhat.  There really are a lot of tricks they missed from the original series - strangely, "soapy" stuff that would have worked better for character development imo.  Since I see no sign of Betty Brant here, I fear more trick missery is about to occur!

If I was in charge, Id have done a Doc Ock, Betty Brant themed part 1 - maybe stretch that whole Betty Brant/Ned Leeds stuff over 2 films - throw in another early villain like Sandman.

Then a Goblin, Gwen Stacey Spidey at College part 3

Then bring on MJ if youre still going!

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: DrRocka on 14 January, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
God, really, 1973??? Wasn't that when they first introduced the idea of a clone Peter?
The nineties guffins that I read was what put me off. As far as I'm concerned, the Green Goblin is still died. He died the issue after Gwen Stacey did.
I did like the Ultimate Spidey, though.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2011, 11:50:35 PM
Quote from: DrRocka on 14 January, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
God, really, 1973??? Wasn't that when they first introduced the idea of a clone Peter?


Uh huh...that's where the Ben Reilly -retrofit- clone came from:

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: DrRocka on 14 January, 2011, 11:54:30 PM
Arsom cover!
My spelling, grammar and diction tonight is brought to you tonight courtesy of Peroni lager, for which I can only apologise
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Emp on 14 January, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
Thats what made me move away from Marvel...big spashes like "Even if i live..I die!"

There was an Avengers issue that had the same sort of line... "This issue...EVERYONE dies!!" and they did and it was a great story, just unfortunate that by the next issue i got they were all fine and dandy again.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Emp on 14 January, 2011, 11:56:29 PM
[quote
My spelling, grammar and diction tonight is brought to you tonight courtesy of Peroni lager, for which I can only apologise
[/quote].

Thought you were cutting down ;)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: DrRocka on 15 January, 2011, 12:01:27 AM
Not til tomorrow, chum, til then... 'tis the last blowout!
~Although I'm aware, technically, that it IS tomorrow. In which case, today, I mean,
...Ah fuggit, ya know what I mean!
Hey, boy! BOY!! A DRINK FOR ALL MY FRIENDS!!!!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 January, 2011, 06:52:38 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 14 January, 2011, 11:29:48 PM

The original Spidey Clone Saga was 1973.

Which, if I remember by Marvel Essentials correctly was a fantastic story told in about 5 or 6 issues. Great old school stuff.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 January, 2011, 08:55:25 AM
The original Clone STORY was from 1973 yes, but the CLONE SAGA was a 'nineties' thing, in every sense of the word. :-/
SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 January, 2011, 01:15:40 PM

There wouldnt be Daily Bugle chief J. Jonah Jameson! as here;

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144625p1.html (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144625p1.html)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 January, 2011, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 19 January, 2011, 01:15:40 PM

There wouldnt be Daily Bugle chief J. Jonah Jameson! as here;

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144625p1.html (http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1144625p1.html)

That's a real shame as he's a great character. Still having no clue what is in the movie I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Buddy on 19 January, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
More pics here...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48129 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48129)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Hoagy on 19 January, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
Man I'm not impressed. It doesn't look like New York to me. Its not got any buildings in it. He looks like a fathers for justice dude bumming around a big set. Not got high hopes for this. It looks rubbish [/sherminusoff]
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 19 January, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
Man I'm not impressed. It doesn't look like New York to me. Its not got any buildings in it. He looks like a fathers for justice dude bumming around a big set. Not got high hopes for this. It looks rubbish [/sherminusoff]



Eh, are you serious? All the shots are mid shots at street level so how would you see any bulidings? It's also shot -blurred- using a phone camera so how could it look even cinematic?

Haven't we had all this on the Dredd thread?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 January, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
If only there was some kind of imagery, perhaps computer-generated, which could enable standard shots to be augmented somehow.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goosegash on 19 January, 2011, 03:22:13 PM
Quote from: Van Dom on 14 January, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 14 January, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
Oh, just, VOM. That looks like one of those 90s Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider/ Clone Spidey costumes. It's all wrong. What the hell is wrong with the one Steve Ditko designed?

SBT

Remember all that nonsense. My God it went on for about five years. I actually bought all of them, have them at home in a big box. It was actually okay until they (as usual) pussied out and backpedalled on everything they'd done during the story. I think thats what eventually made me quit Marvel. No matter what big, shocking, status quo changing story they did, as soon as the creative team changed a great big reset button got pressed and the whole thing ended up pointless. Not sure if thats still the case at Marvel or not asI havent read a Marvel comic in about 12 years.

Still the case, yeah. In fact they pretty did it the same thing again recently with the "One More Day" storyline and subsequent reset-buttoning of about thirty years of Spidey comics.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Hoagy on 20 January, 2011, 04:54:08 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 19 January, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
Man I'm not impressed. It doesn't look like New York to me. Its not got any buildings in it. He looks like a fathers for justice dude bumming around a big set. Not got high hopes for this. It looks rubbish [/sherminusoff]



Eh, are you serious? All the shots are mid shots at street level so how would you see any bulidings? It's also shot -blurred- using a phone camera so how could it look even cinematic?

Haven't we had all this on the Dredd thread?

Seriously? I think the new outfit has too gutsy a colouring.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: mogzilla on 20 January, 2011, 01:10:16 PM
dig nicholas hammond's old cossie out for an airing that was as true to the dikto/comic version as you could get .....and look how that turned out.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: mogzilla on 20 January, 2011, 01:45:33 PM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/spidergirl.jpg

the new cossie reminds me of this one.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: fresno bob on 21 January, 2011, 07:30:31 AM
Yay! yet another reboot! can't wait to sit thru spidey's origin again.With great power and all that. :rolleyes:javascript:void(0); :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Tiplodocus on 21 January, 2011, 08:31:27 AM
The first hour of the first movie was pretty much exactly what I want from a super hero movie. The other five hours? Considerably less.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 21 January, 2011, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 13 January, 2011, 11:01:36 PM
That costume looks fucking stupid.

What's wrong with having him dressed in, like, you know, Spider-Man's costume?

Shut up, me-from-the-past, you idiot. It looks alright to me.

(It grew on me. Like a symbiote...)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 04 February, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
Sorry but it looks shite!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353626/Has-new-Spiderman-Andrew-Garfield-got-double-Stuntmans-moves-lleave-little-imagination.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353626/Has-new-Spiderman-Andrew-Garfield-got-double-Stuntmans-moves-lleave-little-imagination.html)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Buddy on 09 February, 2011, 10:40:18 AM
New pix here....
Kinda warming to the suit now. Like the skinny spider-man.http://www.popsugar.com/Pictures-Spider-man-Andrew-Garfield-His-Tight-Costume-13664330?page=0,0,7#10 (http://www.popsugar.com/Pictures-Spider-man-Andrew-Garfield-His-Tight-Costume-13664330?page=0,0,7#10)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 09 February, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
Mirrored eyes and a slightly worn-looking bulge of discoloured spider-genitals? Hmm.

SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 09 February, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
Interesting crotch-rot.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
...and now apparently, The amazing Spider-Man isn't a reboot at all:

QuoteAvi Arad, an executive producer on The Amazing Spider-Man, has revealed that the new Spider-Man movie will not completely reboot the first three films.

Arad spoke to Entertainment Weekly, stating that The Amazing Spider-Man will tell the stories that happened around the events of the earlier films.

"It's not a comeback. You have to look at it this way: Do you want to know more about Spider-Man? This movie is going to tell stories that you didn't see in movies 1, 2, and 3."

Arad went on to say that The Amazing Spider-Man "won't erase what came before, but will try to weave a narrative that could take place within the framework of the earlier films."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a304887/arad-amazing-spider-man-is-not-a-reboot.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a304887/arad-amazing-spider-man-is-not-a-reboot.html)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2011, 09:14:11 AM
Man, that is some creative wriggling.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Radbacker on 21 February, 2011, 10:23:59 AM
whats with the mechanical webshooters then?  oh thats right that was the time his bio webspinners stopped working from over use or somethuing aso instead he built mechanical ones, which he then ddidn't ever use again in number 2 or 3 (even when he lost his powers in 2).
Please dont do this Marvel films you'll f@#k em all up if you try to tie them in, just admit its a reboot and get on with it.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 10:39:42 AM
Hmm, it does seem a little silly and short-sighted - if you're recasting the whole thing, then you may as well start from scratch. My guess is that they will try and hedge their bets and claim this one is a pseudo-sequel to the others, unless it does really well, in which case they will spin a few sequels out of it and claim it was always intended to be a proper reboot.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 21 February, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Fuck man, ah fuck. Why the fuck did they have to fucking go and do that? I mean, fuck, y'know? Saying that shit, man. What the shit, yo? Why'd they- I mean, why'd they wanna...

Fuck it man, I'm fucking - I mean, like... Fuck.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 February, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
In Marvel terms, it makes as much sense continuity-wise as their comics, so it's AOK.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 February, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
at least it means that the story won't just be the origin story all over again
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 11:08:07 AM
I think for the likes of Superman, Batman, Spider-Man - they're so well known now that you could do the origin as a thirty second blast at the start of the movie and be done with it.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 11:08:07 AM
I think for the likes of Superman, Batman, Spider-Man - they're so well known now that you could do the origin as a thirty second blast at the start of the movie and be done with it.

See Megamind for how this can be achieved before the credits.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 21 February, 2011, 11:57:57 AM
I liked how it was handled in All Star Superman - one page, three or four panels with short captions, done.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 21 February, 2011, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 February, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
at least it means that the story won't just be the origin story all over again

Exactly. I actually like the fact it won't be a reboot in the strict sense of the word.

Just see it as a self contained story that happened somewhere in that timeline but isn't tied to the original, and it could work. There is plenty of time unaccounted for after all, and, concerning the new love interest, [spoiler]Peter Parker didn't hook up with M J properly until the end of episode 2[/spoiler].

As for the mechanical web-shooters thing.... if they're not actually mentioned they could be taken as a kind of in-gag. I.e. we see them on the suit but he just does his thing as he always has.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: James Stacey on 21 February, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
To be honest if having mechanical webshooters in one film and not in another is the only hurdle for suspension of disbelief in a Spiderman movie, you are doing well.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 February, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 21 February, 2011, 05:08:06 PMJust see it as a self contained story that happened somewhere in that timeline but isn't tied to the original, and it could work. There is plenty of time unaccounted for after all, and, concerning the new love interest, [spoiler]Peter Parker didn't hook up with M J properly until the end of episode 2[/spoiler].


Nonsense, the fact that the Lizard is the villain in the new film scuppers any continuity between series; Dr. Curt Connors didn't get a chance to become the Lizard in Raimi's, then there's the anomaly of Gwen Stacey in the third.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 21 February, 2011, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 February, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
Nonsense, the fact that the Lizard is the villain in the new film scuppers any continuity with Raimi's; Dr. Curt Connors didn't get a chance to become the Lizard.

Um... good point. I forgot about the main villain...

Mind you, my memory isn't great on names so I probably wouldn't have made the connection. Of course Connors might survive the events of the new film and change back to human form by the end. (I don't know if he's done that in the comics... but I remember him changing back and forth in the cartoon, anyway.) A bit of a stretch, I know, but that would lead the human version for the other Raimi films.

That actually reminds me of the new X-Men prequel too. They have a blue furry Beast, even though there is a quick 'non furry' cameo of McCoy on the telly in X-Men 2. It's only very small though so I wouldn't have made the connection if someone hadn't pointed him out in the documentaries!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 21 February, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 21 February, 2011, 06:43:43 PM
They have a blue furry Beast, even though there is a quick 'non furry' cameo of McCoy on the telly in X-Men 2. It's only very small though so I wouldn't have made the connection if someone hadn't pointed him out in the documentaries!

Ah, but as with Doc Connors flipping back and forth between Lizard and one-armed scientist, the Beast has also shifted ceaselessly between furry, non-furry and positively feline over the years.  IIRC he was back to human-ish form in the original X-Factor.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 22 February, 2011, 08:21:04 AM
I suppose if you were really desperate to paper over the cracks and force the new film into some sort of continuity with the Raimi films you could, but I don't think it's a good fit.

Gwen Stacy is the love interest in the new film yet she apparently meets Peter Parker in college in Spider-Man 3.

That, the mechanical web shooters and Curt Connors getting his job back after being a rampaging, humanoid lizard monster all add up to scupper the anally retentive compulsion to make the pieces fit together.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: James Stacey on 22 February, 2011, 12:19:13 PM
A wizard did it
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 14 July, 2011, 10:00:15 AM
New images scanned...







Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Hoagy on 14 July, 2011, 04:20:13 PM


When a gamma radiated spider monkey bites mild mannered Peter Parker.   
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 14 July, 2011, 07:35:41 PM










Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Proudhuff on 15 July, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
uuuugh! why not just call it Twilightspidy and be done with it
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2011, 07:01:37 PM
Twidey.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 July, 2011, 11:42:32 PM
The mechanical shooters seem like a big step backwards. It was so tedious in Ultimate Spider-Man how piss-poor Peter kept banging on about how expensive the fluid was to create, and making that aspect part of the mutation seems eminently sensible. Oh well.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 16 July, 2011, 12:04:48 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 15 July, 2011, 11:42:32 PM
The mechanical shooters seem like a big step backwards. It was so tedious in Ultimate Spider-Man how piss-poor Peter kept banging on about how expensive the fluid was to create, and making that aspect part of the mutation seems eminently sensible. Oh well.

There is other way...  ::)

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: I, Cosh on 16 July, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: Krombasher on 14 July, 2011, 04:20:13 PM


When a gamma radiated spider monkey bites mild mannered Peter Parker.
When, oh when will the makers of the so-called Dredd film stop treating the fans like dirt on their shoes and release some official pictures of a big monkey wearing their costume??!!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: the shutdown man on 19 July, 2011, 07:50:19 PM
Spider-man trailer has leaked (seems like all the superhero trailers are doing that these days).

Check it out here while it's up:

http://home.comcast.net/~tankrizz0/Superhero%20Shows%20%20Watch%20the%20Leaked%20Amazing%20Spider-Man%20Trailer%20Now.mov (http://home.comcast.net/~tankrizz0/Superhero%20Shows%20%20Watch%20the%20Leaked%20Amazing%20Spider-Man%20Trailer%20Now.mov)

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: strontium71 on 19 July, 2011, 08:01:48 PM
The last bit of that trailer could almost be from Mirrors Edge on the 360.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 July, 2011, 08:03:04 PM
I think I'll be giving this a miss as I can't be arsed watching a reboot of a very profitable series, that isn't even ten years old. I feel that watching the origins, AGAIN, will be a complete waste of my time and effort and probably won't even bother downloading it, when it's available. What is up with the movie industry these days. It's not as if the films we have just watched bombed, say 20 years ago and they are having another go to try and improve the whole thing!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: the shutdown man on 19 July, 2011, 07:50:19 PM
Spider-man trailer has leaked (seems like all the superhero trailers are doing that these days).

Check it out here while it's up:

http://home.comcast.net/~tankrizz0/Superhero%20Shows%20%20Watch%20the%20Leaked%20Amazing%20Spider-Man%20Trailer%20Now.mov (http://home.comcast.net/~tankrizz0/Superhero%20Shows%20%20Watch%20the%20Leaked%20Amazing%20Spider-Man%20Trailer%20Now.mov)






Quite impressive. Very '70's' in feel, look and attitude and a nice departure from the Raimi films. This could surprise us.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 July, 2011, 08:03:04 PM
I think I'll be giving this a miss as I can't be arsed watching a reboot of a very profitable series, that isn't even ten years old. I feel that watching the origins, AGAIN, will be a complete waste of my time and effort and probably won't even bother downloading it, when it's available. What is up with the movie industry these days. It's not as if the films we have just watched bombed, say 20 years ago and they are having another go to try and improve the whole thing!

You maybe be GLAD they did, or it wont be new Dredd film???
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 19 July, 2011, 08:18:32 PM
In my post I did mention that the Spiderman series was a profitable series and was only ten years old. I suppose we could just have the same few films made every ten years. I look forward to Iron Man being rebooted soon!
Dredd failed at the box office and that was 17 years ago!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 19 July, 2011, 08:34:53 PM
Looks ok, not sure about the POV shot - don't think I've ever seen that done well in a film. Always seems terribly gimmicky.

Enjoyed the raimi spiderman films, but never really felt the need to revisit them. Keeping an open mind for this. A little curious that from the trailer it looks like this very much will be an origin story - wasn't the producer quoted recently as saying that this wasn't strictly a reboot and could actually slot into the existing series?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 July, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
I thought that looked bloody brilliant! Okay, so it had no sound here- but that last sequence from Spidey's point of view was exactly what was missing from all three of Raimi's movies. If I wasn't obviously going to see this anyway- being a lifelong Spidey-fan with two Spidey-obsessed kids, this has just jumped right to the number one spot in my "films I'm champing at the bit to see" list.

SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 19 July, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Yeah up until the POV shot I was all Mah! Big woo seen it all before. Then the POV stuff really kicked ass, even with the low quality available on this. That said a cool POV thing will to sustain a film alone so maybe my initial thoughts might be right?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: the shutdown man on 19 July, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
I like the Spidey/ Mirror's Edge bit (as one internet wit has already called it, Peter Parkour), but the rest of it seems pretty similar to the first Spiderman film. It's got the origin, Parker voice-over, and Rhys Ifans seems to be in Willem Defoe's position as the mad scientist. I still want to see it, but I was hoping it would be a bit more of a departure.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2011, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 July, 2011, 08:34:53 PMLooks ok, not sure about the POV shot - don't think I've ever seen that done well in a film. Always seems terribly gimmicky.



Not sure what you expect from a 'P.O.V.' shot?  In this case it's entirely appropriate. Leaping, climbing and swinging from successive skyscrapers like a giant arachnid is not something a normal human can experience in everyday life so I'd argue that in this case it's not a gimmick. It's an insight into the physical experience of the character which sets him apart from everyone else and how his perspective changes. As was stated earlier, visually, the previous films could have benefitted from such a shot. It's done pretty well too.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 19 July, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 July, 2011, 08:34:53 PM
it looks like this very much will be an origin story - wasn't the producer quoted recently as saying that this wasn't strictly a reboot and could actually slot into the existing series?

That's what I thought too. The excerpt of the scene where he becomes [spoiler]seemed reminiscent of The Fly.[/spoiler]

I've been feeling rather cynical about a reboot too, but the whole tone of that trailer was very interesting! It looks like they'll be going with the [spoiler]parents secret history angle[/spoiler] too, something I believe they did in the comics.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 July, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
I take it everybody else got sound with it then? Wonder why i didnt. Yes, my soundcard is working, and no my speakers werent low or muted.
SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 July, 2011, 10:09:56 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 July, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
I take it everybody else got sound with it then? Wonder why i didnt. Yes, my soundcard is working, and no my speakers werent low or muted.
SBT

Or like me, you gone Deaf!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 19 July, 2011, 10:45:12 PM
Okay, I'm in - that was great.  Great sense of atmosphere, nice to see the Parkers' story making an appearance, sufficiently different in tone to the Raimi flicks to be worth the effort.

I actually can't wait to experience that POV stuff in 3D, and I don't generally care for 3D.  Well played.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 July, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
I really loved the final shot in the first Raimi movie, but the POV scene here seems to have topped that- looks great.

Also- anybody have any idea who the villain in this is? I'm assuming it's either the Goblin or the Lizard judging by the Mad Scientist vibe.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
d'Lizard.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Radbacker on 20 July, 2011, 03:05:37 AM
That POV shot is like something Rami would do surely?
Looking forward to this more than i was now.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 09:30:12 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 July, 2011, 03:05:37 AM
That POV shot is like something Rami would do surely?


Yes, but he didn't.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 20 July, 2011, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 09:30:12 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 20 July, 2011, 03:05:37 AM
That POV shot is like something Rami would do surely?


Yes, but he didn't.

He did in Spider-man 2...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Noisybast on 20 July, 2011, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 July, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
I take it everybody else got sound with it then? Wonder why i didnt. Yes, my soundcard is working, and no my speakers werent low or muted.
SBT

Have you tried forcing small chunks of camembert into your ear canal?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 July, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
d'Lizard.

Cool. The Lizard is my favourite Spidey character.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 20 July, 2011, 04:44:57 PM
Offical and in HD!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XayxMPrUP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XayxMPrUP4)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mudcrab on 20 July, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
Oh look, the director's played Mirror's Edge.

Why do they have to do the origin AGAIN???

Never mind, I'll watch it. In 2013 on the movie channel.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dweezil2 on 20 July, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
Another origin story!? :o

Too soon they cry!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Hoagy on 20 July, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
It seems to be evoking a parental mystery, probably adapted from a series of back stories from editions.

I'm seeing through too much cgi on the mirrors edge bit. Especially on the drainpipe. Never been a fan of marzipan landscapes. It only looks good on Jenny's Amazing Cakes! (plug)

I like Marty Sheen though, so it'll be worth seeing him portray such a classic character.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 06:44:23 PM
Hopefully there'll be no Aunt May uberschmaltz to suffer.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 July, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
As I just said on the Hi-Ex Blog http://hiexcomics.blogspot.com/2011/07/amazing-spider-man-trailer.html, people seem to be able to accept DC rebooting their entire range, but someone doing it with one movie has them up in arms...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
It's a point I've made before on other forums, the hipocracy of fandom to willingly buy multiple versions of comics with multiple timelines and multiple variant covers yet to have a different 'version' in films is unacceptable.


Wankers.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 20 July, 2011, 07:14:57 PM
Yeah, I fucking hate them all. Every. Single. One.



This is a PM, right..?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: chris_askham on 20 July, 2011, 07:16:53 PM
Is there no MJ in this movie?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 07:35:10 PM
Hopefully there's a BJ instead.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 July, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 July, 2011, 07:14:57 PMThis is a PM, right..?


'tis, tell me more...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 20 July, 2011, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 20 July, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
As I just said on the Hi-Ex Blog http://hiexcomics.blogspot.com/2011/07/amazing-spider-man-trailer.html, people seem to be able to accept DC rebooting their entire range, but someone doing it with one movie has them up in arms...

What's just as incredible about all this is that it'll be 10 years since that origin story was last done in film.  That means there are 10 year olds who hadn't even been born when the first film was in the cinema, never mind all the younger ones.  Don't they deserve the opportunity to have a new Spider-Man movie for them?  I'd love, for instance, to be able to take my kid to a rebooted Star Wars movie for his first-ever SW cinema outing, rather than just the 3D version of Phantom Menace.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mudcrab on 20 July, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
10 years???? Jebus, didn't realise it was that long. Oh well, I'll take back my exasperation a bit then  :lol:

Doesn't time fly these days?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 December, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
Nice poster:


Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 10 December, 2011, 01:34:58 PM

You means this;



But UnTold Story? as what? last Spider-man was 10 years ago!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 15 December, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Now there is new website with featured photos, check the Spider-man's boots!

http://theamazingspiderman.com/ (http://theamazingspiderman.com/)

Also new banners!







Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 27 December, 2011, 10:17:54 AM



Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 27 December, 2011, 12:59:32 PM
Looks a little darker than Sam Raimi's effort. I think the most unusual thing [ or most interesting thing] about it might be Rhys Ifans Dr Curt Connors.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
Three new -low res- Spidey clips:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FACDVEb81jo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=94fFH1vlQHY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_9JfaSbymKg
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 02 April, 2012, 08:54:28 PM
That first clip was amusing... although I couldn't hear much.

The third one though... why do these things assume that just because someone is suddenly stronger that means they would apply more force for the same mundane actions? Okay, for  gag effect. Guess I answered my own question there.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2012, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 April, 2012, 08:54:28 PM


The third one though... why do these things assume that just because someone is suddenly stronger that means they would apply more force for the same mundane actions?


because they don't know yet, especially when it happens overnight?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 02 April, 2012, 09:25:31 PM
I've a feeling this one may get overshadowed by the big guns of Avengers and Dark Knight Rises. I'm still looking forward to seeing this though!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 03 April, 2012, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2012, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 April, 2012, 08:54:28 PM


The third one though... why do these things assume that just because someone is suddenly stronger that means they would apply more force for the same mundane actions?


because they don't know yet, especially when it happens overnight?

That doesn't really hold up. Just because you suddenly have super strength doesn't mean you'd automatically apply more pressure when you turn on the tap (or whatever), or at least not so much as to wreck it. Unless you're in the habit of using excessive force to do those things all the time.

Come to think of it, you might go a good while without really being aware at all until your limits are tested. Not that I'm saying a film should follow that route, a bit of poetic licence is required.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 April, 2012, 01:13:34 AM
That depends on the nature/source of that strength. He has got the DNA of a spider spliced with his own, so awareness may not be equivalent with the way his body/mind relationship functioned previously. As you say it's licence.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Buddy on 03 April, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
No-one moaning about the flashing web spinners?

Give it time.....
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Matt Timson on 03 April, 2012, 09:07:32 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 03 April, 2012, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 April, 2012, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 02 April, 2012, 08:54:28 PM


The third one though... why do these things assume that just because someone is suddenly stronger that means they would apply more force for the same mundane actions?


because they don't know yet, especially when it happens overnight?

That doesn't really hold up. Just because you suddenly have super strength doesn't mean you'd automatically apply more pressure when you turn on the tap (or whatever), or at least not so much as to wreck it. Unless you're in the habit of using excessive force to do those things all the time.

Come to think of it, you might go a good while without really being aware at all until your limits are tested. Not that I'm saying a film should follow that route, a bit of poetic licence is required.

Have you ever gone to pick something up that you think is heavier than it actually is? Same principle. After heaving our toddler around, the first time I picked up the new baby, I nearly threw him through the roof. See also: Empty egg boxes.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: blackmocco on 03 April, 2012, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: Buddy on 03 April, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
No-one moaning about the flashing web spinners?

Give it time.....

Dunno why anyone would care, to be honest. I mean, his entire suit is bright red and blue and he's a loudmouth. Not like he's trying to be subtle.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 03 April, 2012, 10:49:22 PM
Remember when this was a thing? Those were the days...


...



...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nd8jC1p9E
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 15 April, 2012, 02:33:26 PM
Japanese trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5qps5TlysY0
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 15 April, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
Wonderful web spinning action!  :D
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mardroid on 15 April, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
I groaned inside when I heard they were doing this film.

Now, I'm actually looking forward to it. I prefer to see it as just another Spider-man film rather than a reboot*, but that depends on how much of his origins they cover, I guess.


*Web-shooters thing aside.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 15 April, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
Other week, I was watch Spider-Man 2, thought that is best Spider-man film, but would this reboot film be good?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 16 April, 2012, 12:23:20 AM
With this reboot is there any indication to how the sub plot of Spidermans parents will go. Is it a new take on this story or is it true to the one in the comic from years back? ::)
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 April, 2012, 08:28:21 AM
Okay have to say that trailer looks pretty damned cool. Looks to have a relatively contained plot. Lets hope the sequels (Its safe to assume right?) don't go down the same old route of trying to cram more and more stuff in.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 16 April, 2012, 08:33:19 AM
S'good that.  Looks terrific (love the lighting in night scenes), and the plot looks strong and as Colin says, contained.  Also, holy heck does Emma Stone make a cute Gwen.  Optimistic.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 16 April, 2012, 10:40:58 AM
I'm looking forward to this, largely so that my Spidermad 4 year old son can watch it with me.

Although I'm still kind of wary about the need for a reboot so soon after Maguire/ Raimi's films, which still look great to me.

And I'm a bit torn on the webspinners. I actually quite liked Raimi's reasoning for making them organic, rather than something Parker invented. Made perfect sense.

Still, roll on summer! When's it out?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Pyroxian on 16 April, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: brendan1 on 16 April, 2012, 10:40:58 AMAlthough I'm still kind of wary about the need for a reboot so soon after Maguire/ Raimi's films, which still look great to me.

Probably because without Raimi/Maguire on board they couldn't really carry on the franchise as is, but they have to keep making new Spiderman films every n years or else Marvel gets the film rights back...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: DeFuzzed on 16 April, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
I was peed off with the soonness of a reboot, and then I got even more peed off when Garfield spouted out a sob story about how he was the biggest Spidey fan ever and it made the fanbase go 'ahhhhh bless, I can't wait to watch it now cuz he's so darned earnest and true' and oh my god, you so dumb.

BUT despite my peedoffness, good trailer, and I love smartmouth Spidey - and I missed smartmouthed Spidey in Raimi's movies - so my disggruntled self is still superpeachykeen to go see this. God darn it.

Also, if Whedon had written this, the smartmouth moments would be epic, quoted for ever infinity. And while I'm crying over missed ops, Whedon Wonder Woman. Buckets of tears.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2012, 12:32:16 AM
Spidey gets another blast:


http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/theamazingspiderman/


The money shots are comin' out this time.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 04 May, 2012, 06:34:47 AM
This might actually turn out alright, although I must confess to having exactly zero interest in it, but the real trouble is (as some here have stated) that the excellent Sam Raimi-directed Spider-Man trilogy is still extremely fresh in audiences minds, and let's face it, they've already used all the best villains, and once you've seen Spidey web-slinging for three whole movies, it just isn't exciting anymore... there's a lesson to be learnt here for Warner Bros, should they (foolishly) decide to continue the Batman movie franchise after Chris Nolan's departure...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 08:10:19 AM
Im sure the film will turn out fine, I just think it's a shame they didn't have the confidence to go full reboot. Even the teaser poster basically announces this as Spider-Man 4.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: radiator on 04 May, 2012, 08:10:19 AM
I just think it's a shame they didn't have the confidence to go full reboot.



Like make it a radioactive salmon?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Ghastly McNasty on 04 May, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Like make it a radioactive salmon?



Nah, that idea hasn't got any legs. ::)

I like the new trailer though. First time i've been excited about this movie.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 04 May, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Quote from: Ghastly McNasty on 04 May, 2012, 11:30:19 AM

Nah, that idea hasn't got any legs. ::)

I like the new trailer though. First time i've been excited about this movie.


Nice, hope it's the shoal story this time round.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 04 May, 2012, 02:38:18 PM
The new trailer l :ooks like fun, but I'm getting a feeling of having seen it all before in the Raimi run! :'( Will still visit IMAX to see it and wonder in amazment at the special effects upgrades. :P
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 15 May, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
http://youtu.be/16AwVWvjQhY


The 'Super Preview' apparently that's better than an ordinary preview. Longer anyway. Looks pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 12:44:36 AM
Interesting early word on AmazerBeams-Spider-Dude:



The Amazing Spider-Man screened in New York last week. There were a handful who liked it (mostly people you never heard of, to be frank), a few who felt it was forgettable and unnecessary, and some who hated it. The biggest Spider-Man fan I know found it to be a travesty. But most important: all of the changed origin stuff is gone. The bits about Peter's dad manipulating his genetic code is out, meaning there now is NO "Untold Story."


http://badassdigest.com/2012/06/18/spidey-bullies-a-guy-in-new-amazing-spider-man-clip/


Could the angsty-arachnoid be the next casualty of 2012?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 19 June, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
They should reveal the untold story of the time I made your mom squirt all over the room.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 01:14:36 AM
Cut that shit!


More importantly:



Hans Zimmer To Score MAN OF STEEL


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=61964



BBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: HdE on 19 June, 2012, 01:28:32 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 01:14:36 AM

Hans Zimmer To Score MAN OF STEEL


Muh.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 19 June, 2012, 03:14:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 12:44:36 AM
Interesting early word on AmazerBeams-Spider-Dude:
The Amazing Spider-Man screened in New York last week. There were a handful who liked it (mostly people you never heard of, to be frank), a few who felt it was forgettable and unnecessary, and some who hated it. The biggest Spider-Man fan I know found it to be a travesty. But most important: all of the changed origin stuff is gone. The bits about Peter's dad manipulating his genetic code is out, meaning there now is NO "Untold Story."
http://badassdigest.com/2012/06/18/spidey-bullies-a-guy-in-new-amazing-spider-man-clip/
Could the angsty-arachnoid be the next casualty of 2012?

So another pointless reboot/retcon/whatever this summer, suddenly The Avengers seems like Citizen Kane by comparison...

Quote from: Roger Godpleton on 19 June, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
They should reveal the untold story of the time I made your mom squirt all over the room.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 01:14:36 AM
Cut that shit!

Amen Joe, get a hold of yourself Roger dude, leave that crap in the gutter where it belongs, really...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 19 June, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
What's the certificate on this? can my spiderman-crazy four year old see it with me?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 19 June, 2012, 03:14:40 AM
Amen Joe, get a hold of yourself Roger dude, leave that crap in the gutter where it belongs, really...


This is the gutter, Roger's right at home.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 09:00:34 AM
Is it me, or they post too many clips of Spider-Man 2012? Sounds like flop is it?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 09:14:57 AM
Lots of Prometheus audiences had to sit through a six minute trailer for this. Reeks of desperation to me...

Still, the original Spiderman trilogy on Blu Ray is going for £9.99 on Zaavi and Play.com at the moment if anyone's interested. Picked up a copy yesterday.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Dandontdare on 19 June, 2012, 09:57:24 AM
I had no appetite for yet another spider man reboot, but having seen the trailer, I'm actually looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 12:41:32 PM
Empire review is up: http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=135132

And Total Film: http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/the-amazing-spider-man
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 19 June, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Hmmmm. Bit underwhelming those reviews.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 19 June, 2012, 12:54:41 PM
Yeah, sounds like one for a cheap afternoon showing.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Empire review mentions that this film more on relationships, less on superheros stuff, are it try to be Twilight??
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
QuoteEmpire review mentions that this film more on relationships, less on superheros stuff, are it try to be Twilight??

I'm no expert on Spiderman so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the comic always had a large focus on the high-school-teen-relationship angle?

Seems perfectly appropriate to push that and aim for a wider audience than the usual fanboys.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 19 June, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Your right, Radiator, hope people will enjoy the film...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 19 June, 2012, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
QuoteEmpire review mentions that this film more on relationships, less on superheros stuff, are it try to be Twilight??

I'm no expert on Spiderman so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the comic always had a large focus on the high-school-teen-relationship angle?

Seems perfectly appropriate to push that and aim for a wider audience than the usual fanboys.

The fanboys being exactly the ones who should be most aware of the comic "having always had a large focus on the high-school-teen-relationship angle"?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
QuoteThe fanboys being exactly the ones who should be most aware of the comic "having always had a large focus on the high-school-teen-relationship angle"?

I don't quite understand what you're getting at.

My point is that - I think - that the teen romance angle has always been quite prominent in the source material and it makes sense to emphasise this in the marketing to draw in a broader audience. One can hardly accuse it of 'doing a Twilight' because it's in keeping with what - to my mind - the series has always been.

The fact that the film apparently is more about the relationship than superheroics, combined with the charisma of the leads (who I have very much liked in previous things I've seen them in) actually makes me a lot more interested in this film than I otherwise would have been.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 19 June, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
And the 2002 Spiderman grossed over $800m worldwide box office, so one would have to assume that the job of widening the appeal beyond "fanboys" was done satisfactorily well the first time around.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JamesC on 19 June, 2012, 01:52:24 PM
I just hope the video game is good!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 19 June, 2012, 01:52:24 PM
I just hope the video game is good!

I'm stunned that they still haven't worked out how to do a properly good Spiderman game after all these years.

I remember everyone going on about how good the Spiderman 2 game was but I thought it was very average and boring.

They've never seemed to really nail that physicality and inertia of web-swinging - the vertiginous sense of height and scale.

Imagine what a top-flight AAA dev studio could do with the license, like a Spiderman version of Arkham City.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 19 June, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 19 June, 2012, 01:52:24 PM
I just hope the video game is good!

They rarely are!

I think the whole "Booooo, it's trying to be like Twilight" isn't entirely fair, but neither is it without any basis for worry.

For a start, Raimi's approach was always that of a "fanboy", and he delivered (certainly two) amazing films that performed brilliantly at the box office (I think the third one was a little bit confused and overlong). But he still kept in the romantic side of the character, and the nerdiness, but cast less obvious "swooooon!" stars as his leads.

The more obviously appealing Garfield certainly has a tweeny-appeal that Maguire doesn't have, and when it comes to Hollywood, there's no way they'd be looking at the source material (certainly no more than Raimi did), they'll be thinking "where's the audience for this? What's working?"

And what's been working since the first Spidey in 2002?

Film adaptations of shit, children's literature like Twilight, The Hunger Games and Harry Potter, with good-looking tweeny stars who have nice hair and lots of growing up angst.

Fuck all to do with the source material, or "widening the appeal" to an audience who would actually be totally fucking unaware of the source material anyway, but about what makes good box office.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: radiator on 19 June, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
I'm stunned that they still haven't worked out how to do a properly good Spiderman game after all these years.



Hours of web-slinging joy.



Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JamesC on 19 June, 2012, 03:50:47 PM
I remember the Fantastic Four Questprobe game. I always got stuck in the tar pit!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: M.I.K. on 19 June, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
I liked the Hulk one, in which it was possible to become sufficiently enraged by typing "bite lip".
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2012, 04:14:59 PM
I liked the little comics that came with them.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Leigh S on 19 June, 2012, 09:10:19 PM
I love the angsty nature of 60s Spider-man, so if they've gone for that, all well and good... but the trailers definition of angst seemed to be asking the hot girl out in a semi-awkward but cute way while she says yes in a semi-awkward and cute way... I seem to recall Gwen being a bit harder to get than that, and that was the fun of it - Parker could beat the villain, but his relationships were a mess ( well more of a mess than either the Raimi or (seemngly) this one would have it) ... who am I kidding - give me Betty Brant!  Best Spider-man girlfriend dynamic ever.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 02 July, 2012, 09:03:08 AM
Reviews for Amazing Spider-Man been averages, so heavy loads of clips not help?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 July, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
General vibe I'm getting is that the biggest problem is nothing new has been done with the material, but then it is a reboot of a film that's only ten years old and is based on a pretty well-known/riffed origin story.  Since the Sam Raimi movie came out there's been three separate and distinct cartoon shows based on Spider-Man, and god knows how many comic book reboots.  I'm not sure what they were expected to do with the material given the rushed production process and as long as it manages to be "okay" I think those involved have probably done the best they could.

Aside from the ludicrous amount of toys seen onscreen (flashing web-shooters, Spider-sneakers, Spider-Man track pants), the biggest issue for me would really be that the clips I've seen seem to make it look a lot like a superhero version of MTV's Teen Wolf, though turnabout is fair play as the supervillain of that show's current season is a humanoid lizard created by the hubris of its human alter-ego...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 02 July, 2012, 11:50:02 AM
Iam aware of a bunch of Twighlight-teenies that are chomping at the bit to see this movie.  If it can rope in a percentage of that type of ciinema Goer it should do ok! 
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 02 July, 2012, 11:41:05 AM
I'm not sure what they were expected to do with the material given the rushed production process and as long as it manages to be "okay" I think those involved have probably done the best they could.


They could've done what Marvel did with the Incredible Hulk: tell the origin in the opening credits and move on from there. A simple story could've been executed from that point on.

The feeling I'm getting is they did try and do more with the origin, however pointless, but that it ended up either not being shot or back in the edit-bins. Things are set-up but undeveloped.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 July, 2012, 02:18:13 PM
I am making an assumption here so feel free to disagree, but I reckon the movie bods' thinking was that they had to do the origin story again because they wanted a teenage Spidey and if they just skipped the origin as you suggest, audiences would assume that this was a direct continuation of the adventures of the Spidey from the Raimi flicks, who by the end was a guy in his late 20s and far outside the age range ASM is aiming for.
A retelling of the origin arguably seemed a necessary evil if Sony wanted to clearly and unambiguously differentiate from the Raimi trilogy, as while Incredible Hulk may have been a decent film in the eyes of some and made a load of cash, it is generally viewed in the industry as a failure and many are still unclear if it is actually a sequel or a reboot of the Ang Lee thing.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2012, 03:13:09 PM
I'd say the Hulk's less than stellar reception was more down to not really knowing how to handle the character in a solo-run and the fact they'd all ready tried to boot the character not too long before and, importantly, without great success. Many people will see a Spidey film for the pure joy alone of seeing the web-head vault through the Manhattan skyline, the Hulk just wrecks things; a harder Joe Super-Soap to put on-screen without someone else to play-off. Spidey had always been No. 1 in the Marvel mutie-verse -probably still is- before Downey Jnr. put on some coloured tin-foil.

While I agree with your most valid point about Sony needing to push Parker's teen-ness, I don't see them being so ham-strung by that as you do. Incorporating the teenage factor was important but does the re-origin of Spidey really need at least two-thirds of a film to do that? Who doesn't know Peter Parker and that origin by now? I'd say 15 minutes tops of cinematic short-hand to drop him right back in high-school.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: radiator on 02 July, 2012, 03:32:18 PM
Quoteif they just skipped the origin as you suggest, audiences would assume that this was a direct continuation of the adventures of the Spidey from the Raimi flicks, who by the end was a guy in his late 20s and far outside the age range ASM is aiming for.

Such concerns haven't stopped them from explicitly selling this film as 'Spider-man 4'.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 02 July, 2012, 05:21:01 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 02 July, 2012, 02:18:13 PM
I am making an assumption here so feel free to disagree, but I reckon the movie bods' thinking was that they had to do the origin story again because they wanted a teenage Spidey and if they just skipped the origin as you suggest, audiences would assume that this was a direct continuation of the adventures of the Spidey from the Raimi flicks, who by the end was a guy in his late 20s and far outside the age range ASM is aiming for.


Garfield's 28 already. The same age as Maguire was.

I think it would have been far braver - and more interesting - to do a Spiderman who genuinely was at school. And have a kid play him at 17 or whatever. A bit like the Harry Potter films, except not fucking shit.

But, as feared, they've gone for the halfwit teeny angst Twilight dollar, and as such it will be rubbish in comaprison to the Raimi film.

TRUFAX
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Goaty on 02 July, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
One problem about that poster as they try to selling the Amazing Spider-Man as "The Untold Story"

but the problem reviewer mentioned this;

VERY HEAVY SPOILER!!!!

[spoiler]that the untold story not out in this film, possible in the new sequel to Amazing Spider-Man! WTF? [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 July, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 02 July, 2012, 05:21:01 PMGarfield's 28 already. The same age as Maguire was.

Maguire was playing 28, though.  Garfield isn't.

Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2012, 03:13:09 PMbut does the re-origin of Spidey really need at least two-thirds of a film to do that? Who doesn't know Peter Parker and that origin by now? I'd say 15 minutes tops of cinematic short-hand to drop him right back in high-school.

Can't speak for certain as I haven't seen it yet, but the videogame story seems to suggest that [spoiler]Spidey and the Lizard's powers come from the same source, and that source [/spoiler]is a large plot McGuffin in the movie.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 July, 2012, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 02 July, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
Can't speak for certain as I haven't seen it yet, but the videogame story seems to suggest that [spoiler]Spidey and the Lizard's powers come from the same source, and that source [/spoiler]is a large plot McGuffin in the movie.


An unnecessary adjunct, to a simple origin, that I believe is not fully answered in the film as a lot of the [spoiler]parental stuff[/spoiler] has been dropped.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: bluemeanie on 02 July, 2012, 11:42:08 PM
Going to see it Wednesday. Like the look of the trailer and I had an old Spider-Man annual as a kid where he fought the Red Skull and it was all about his parents secret history, so the fact they're doing some of this gave me a nice bit of nostalgia for a book I'd forgotten.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Mike Carroll on 03 July, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
Just back from the first screening in Liffey Valley, Dublin... Overall: Good fun, but kind of unnecessary given that the first Raimi movie is only ten years old. Worth a look, though!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Judo on 04 July, 2012, 01:12:25 AM
I have only one question : Was spiderman funny?

cos the first word I would use to describe what I like about spiderman is funny. the last word i would use to describe Toby Maguire as spiderman is funny. WTFAIL. I still like the old films but will prob watch this one just cos its there. and they know that x
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 04 July, 2012, 05:42:02 PM
$35m in its first day of release. Less than any of the Raimi films, but first week BO estimates still looking respectable at c.$120-130m.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Buddy on 05 July, 2012, 12:13:51 AM
Seen it tonight with the boy and thought it was excellent.

Only bad point in it is some of the digital effects (especially the Lizard) were a bit duff... oh and Emma Stone looked like she was wearing false teeth that were too big for her mouth... but everything else was spot on, and despit everyone bangin on about watchin the origin again.. well, it's kinda different and part of the story so I didn't really mind that at all.

When I first seen the redesigned costume I really didn't see the point... but you don't really notice the difference in the costume too much when things get going.

Also... although I didn't stay (the boy bolted for the door as soon as the credits rolled)... I hear there is a post credit sequence, so stick around.

I just hope that in the third movie it doesn't turn out that it was really the Sand Man that killed uncle Ben.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: TordelBack on 05 July, 2012, 08:07:53 AM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 03 July, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
... kind of unnecessary given that the first Raimi movie is only ten years old.

For the likes of you and I, I completely agree, it's daft -  but my eldest boy is 6, and as far as he's concerned some film that opened 10 years ago may as well be Arrival of Train at La Ciotat.  His only concern: Spiderman in the cinema!  That there's a chunk of origin story in there is a plus for that audience.  Not sure I'm looking forward to it much myself, but am I really the target for this sort of thing?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 July, 2012, 09:17:15 AM
Good but not outstanding. Andrew Garfield is a talent to watch-even though he always reminds me of a young Anthony Perkins, even down to his mannerisms!

There's nothing new we havn't seen before sadly and I thought director Marc Webb didn't mesh the human drama with the more hokey superhero stuff that's required in this kind of movie as well as Raimi did.

Spiderman 2 remains the benchmark.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 06 July, 2012, 05:03:46 PM
More like The A-meh-zing Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 06 July, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 04 July, 2012, 05:42:02 PM
$35m in its first day of release. Less than any of the Raimi films, but first week BO estimates still looking respectable at c.$120-130m.

Respectable, yeah, but the cash flow is going to halt the minute the Dark Knight hits the cinema. The ceiling is already in place.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: judgefloyd on 07 July, 2012, 11:33:42 AM
I too liked it but not as much as the other three.  I think whatsisname is a better actor than Toby Maguire, but Maguire suits the character better.  The girl was okay, but I was distracted by an interview that was screened before the movie and after the previews in which she looked damned freaky.  I found the plot a bit crowded - the way there seemed to be only twenty people in all New York
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Link Prime on 08 July, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
Saw it last night. Amazingly average. 2/5 at best.
My mouth may also have a residual sour taste due to the two little pre-teen w@nk stains sitting 3 seats to my left who didn't stop talking / shouting / waving their iPhones around like f*cking lightsabres for the duration (while their O'Neills tracksuit wearing scumbag father said nothing).
Why they wasted €45 of their precious benefits money going to see something they had no interest in watching I'll never know.

Emma Stone was cute though.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 July, 2012, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 08 July, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
My mouth may also have a residual sour taste due to the two little pre-teen w@nk



Reported.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 08 July, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Saw it today and really enjoyed it. It may have helped going in and expecting nothing from it though. Garfield is an astonishing actor - never seen him in anything before and was very impressed by him.
I assume that for the sequel we're going to get[spoiler] The Green Goblin[/spoiler], what with the mentions of [spoiler]Norman Osborne[/spoiler] being mysteriously [spoiler]near death[/spoiler] throughout this. And as for the post credits scene, it was [spoiler]Connors being visited by a mysterious shadowy figure in his jail cell.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 July, 2012, 10:44:12 AM
I went to see this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

Andrew Garfield makes a much better Peter Parker/Spider-Man than Tobey MacGuire. Spider-Man acts more 'spidery', [spoiler]spinning and waiting in an actual web to catch the Lizard, scurrying over The Lizard, spinning a web cocoon[/spoiler] and the web slinging looks much cooler and more realistic.

There's none of the cheesy dialogue of the Raimi film either and the romance between Peter and Gwen is much more believable compared to the 'they're in love because we told you they were' relationship with Mary Jane.

The Lizard looks a bit ropey and doesn't really resemble the comic version but the fight scenes were fast, kinetic and exciting.

I'm looking forward to seeing where the sequel will go.

PS - my 8 year old son loved it and declared it 'miles better' than The Avengers.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: willthemightyW on 09 July, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
I really enjoyed it, it was a bit disjointed but good! Garfield and Stone were brilliant, far better than there other movie counterparts! One thing that really annoyed me the whole way through was the music, it seemed really overly slap-sticky in some places (if that makes sense!) and not... heroic enough! And the shrills in the music when Gwen is [spoiler]hiding from the Lizard[/spoiler] (guess that wasn't really a spoiler) I thought were laughable, otherwise that would have been a pretty cool scene. All in all, thought it was good, performances, comedy etc, 4/5 or maybe 3.5/5  :-\, either way it loses marks for the cringe worthy crane scene  ::)
I enjoyed it!
And the credits scene, I'm hoping it's [spoiler]the chameleon or mysterio, not Osborne yet[/spoiler] if they were his underlings that would be cool, as we already see how he's controlling everything in this movie, on IMDB it says that the [spoiler]shadowed man is Osborne (if you follow the link it takes you to Normans page, but the producers or someone to do with the film have come out an said it isn't him[/spoiler]
I heard a lot of the so-called "untold story" has been cut from this movie, and it's clear, the scene in the trailer where the Indian scientist guy [spoiler](righthand man of Osborne)[/spoiler] says "do you really think what happened to you was an accident" was cut out, but I hope they expand on that in the next movie, as it was all too coincidental as to how he got bitten, and they kind of didn't tie up what happened to the indian guy.
Will
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 09 July, 2012, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 July, 2012, 10:44:12 AM
I went to see this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

Andrew Garfield makes a much better Peter Parker/Spider-Man than Tobey MacGuire. Spider-Man acts more 'spidery', [spoiler]spinning and waiting in an actual web to catch the Lizard, scurrying over The Lizard, spinning a web cocoon[/spoiler] and the web slinging looks much cooler and more realistic.

There's none of the cheesy dialogue of the Raimi film either and the romance between Peter and Gwen is much more believable compared to the 'they're in love because we told you they were' relationship with Mary Jane.

The Lizard looks a bit ropey and doesn't really resemble the comic version but the fight scenes were fast, kinetic and exciting.

I'm looking forward to seeing where the sequel will go.

PS - my 8 year old son loved it and declared it 'miles better' than The Avengers.

So, if it's a 12 certificate, but I'm (obviously) with him, can my 6 year old boy get in to watch it? He's Spiderman nuts.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: James Stacey on 09 July, 2012, 03:47:39 PM
I assume its a 12a as you don't get 12 in the cinema anymore, but yes you can
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 09 July, 2012, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 09 July, 2012, 03:47:39 PM
I assume its a 12a as you don't get 12 in the cinema anymore, but yes you can

Yay. He will be pleased indeed.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Spaceghost on 09 July, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 09 July, 2012, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 July, 2012, 10:44:12 AM
I went to see this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

Andrew Garfield makes a much better Peter Parker/Spider-Man than Tobey MacGuire. Spider-Man acts more 'spidery', [spoiler]spinning and waiting in an actual web to catch the Lizard, scurrying over The Lizard, spinning a web cocoon[/spoiler] and the web slinging looks much cooler and more realistic.

There's none of the cheesy dialogue of the Raimi film either and the romance between Peter and Gwen is much more believable compared to the 'they're in love because we told you they were' relationship with Mary Jane.

The Lizard looks a bit ropey and doesn't really resemble the comic version but the fight scenes were fast, kinetic and exciting.

I'm looking forward to seeing where the sequel will go.

PS - my 8 year old son loved it and declared it 'miles better' than The Avengers.

So, if it's a 12 certificate, but I'm (obviously) with him, can my 6 year old boy get in to watch it? He's Spiderman nuts.

Yeah, it's a 12A so under 12's are okay as long as they're with an adult. I don't recall anything particularly scary or distressing. The Lizard is a bit menacing but that's about it.

My daughter is 5 and she was a bit concerned when Uncle Ben died (is that a spoiler? Arf!) but for the most part, her overwhelming reaction was boredom. She pleaded with us to take her to see it too...
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: brendan1 on 09 July, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 July, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: brendan1 on 09 July, 2012, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 09 July, 2012, 10:44:12 AM
I went to see this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

Andrew Garfield makes a much better Peter Parker/Spider-Man than Tobey MacGuire. Spider-Man acts more 'spidery', [spoiler]spinning and waiting in an actual web to catch the Lizard, scurrying over The Lizard, spinning a web cocoon[/spoiler] and the web slinging looks much cooler and more realistic.

There's none of the cheesy dialogue of the Raimi film either and the romance between Peter and Gwen is much more believable compared to the 'they're in love because we told you they were' relationship with Mary Jane.

The Lizard looks a bit ropey and doesn't really resemble the comic version but the fight scenes were fast, kinetic and exciting.

I'm looking forward to seeing where the sequel will go.

PS - my 8 year old son loved it and declared it 'miles better' than The Avengers.

So, if it's a 12 certificate, but I'm (obviously) with him, can my 6 year old boy get in to watch it? He's Spiderman nuts.

Yeah, it's a 12A so under 12's are okay as long as they're with an adult. I don't recall anything particularly scary or distressing. The Lizard is a bit menacing but that's about it.

My daughter is 5 and she was a bit concerned when Uncle Ben died (is that a spoiler? Arf!) but for the most part, her overwhelming reaction was boredom. She pleaded with us to take her to see it too...

Well, he's usually OK watching Spiderman 1 through 3 over and over and over and over again, so I don't think I'll have to worry about the boredom levels. Possibly just my own....
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: judgefloyd on 10 July, 2012, 03:40:51 AM
like Link Prime, I was also distracted by three little brats running around the place while their tracksuit-clad father did - wait for it - nothing.  I yelled 'will you be quiet' in my sternest voice, which shut them up for about twenty minutes before the playground stuff resumed.  I'm extra-impatient with this sort of crap because I have a kid and know that for the most part it's not rocket science to get them to not annoy other people.

Garfield is definitely a talent - he was great in the Red Riding movie.
On reflection, though, this movie wasn't specatacular.  I'm certainly not telling any of my mates that it's a must see
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: bluemeanie on 11 July, 2012, 10:19:36 PM
Just back... loved it.
Thought the non Spider-Man bits were handled really well and were genuinely emotional. Field and Sheen were fucking brilliant and I wasnt even annoyed by the teenie stuff.

Action all really cool too, especially the first bit on the subway, and while my inner nerd was shouting "THE LIZARD LOOKS WRONG" it was a decent enough movie reimagining (can you imagine him talking with the comic muzzle?) and he was suitably threatening.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: dracula1 on 12 July, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
Paid me cred's and watched the film Spiderman 4 the reboot :-*. All I can say about it is... Noooooo!  One good thing came out of this visit to the cinema in the shape of a free Dredd movie poster from the very nice manager at the Odeon (which was nice).  :D
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
Hopefully off to see this tonight with the boys. Despite bizarre costume changes, andrew garfield's ludicrous hair and the hilariously shit lizard, im really looking forward to it. Im a huge spidey fanboy, but wasnt too fussed with the last three movies- hopefully this will be better.

SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: willthemightyW on 12 July, 2012, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: dracula1 on 12 July, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
Paid me cred's and watched the film Spiderman 4 the reboot :-*. All I can say about it is... Noooooo!  One good thing came out of this visit to the cinema in the shape of a free Dredd movie poster from the very nice manager at the Odeon (which was nice).  :D
Didn't you even like Garfield?
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
Saw it, loved it. Would go again, but at £10 for an adult ticket and £8 for kids, I'd rather buy some comics and wait for the DVD.

SBT
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: bluemeanie on 12 July, 2012, 11:21:50 PM
I've become a Wednesday movie guy now

Get my 20p Orange Wednesday ticket sent straight to my phone. Buy one ticket get one free.
So me and Iz saw it in 3D for about 11 quid

We both saw Jaws a few weeks back for £7

Not sure I could justify too many cinema trips if it was over £20 a pop for the pair of us
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: judgeblake on 16 July, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
I'm still trying to decide whether I want to go and see the Amazing Spiderman yet. Whilst my mother and sister went to see it on thursday night, I opted instead to see one of the last chance screenings of Prometheus. They reported back saying that the recasting of the main characters of the spiderman universe are brilliant, but the Lizard has been miscast and that the Lizard itself reminded them of the greener then green cartoonish like Hulk from Ang Lee's misfired Hulk. I mean, I wouldnt mind seeing the same actor from the original trilogy play Sandman again....or a return of Willem defoe as a redesigned green goblin perhaps? (I realise the latter opinions are quite controversial as many hated Sandman in spiderman 3.

Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 July, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
You made a bad mistake going to see Prometheus instead of this.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: judgeblake on 16 July, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 July, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
You made a bad mistake going to see Prometheus instead of this.

is it that Spiderman is the much better? or that Prometheus is that much worse? lol
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Pyroxian on 16 July, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 16 July, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 16 July, 2012, 02:45:14 PM
You made a bad mistake going to see Prometheus instead of this.

is it that Spiderman is the much better? or that Prometheus is that much worse? lol

The latter IMO. At least the Spider-man plot makes more sense. I enjoyed SM's action sequences, but felt it dragged a bit during some of the Gwen-Peter scenes. Possibly because I've read it all in the comics so it's a case of 'oh it's the Gwen Stacey storyline, so blah, blah and blah will happen). I'd give it a 3/5.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 July, 2012, 02:57:16 PM
Prometheus is an absolute stinker of a movie, and it gives me no pleasure in saying that.
I think it'll be up there with things like Battlefield Earth once the smoke clears.
Spider-man is just... Fun. Likeable leads, exciting and coherent action and clear motivations. In short, everything Prometheus lacked!
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: judgeblake on 16 July, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
Damn, you've sold it to me. I'm gonna go and see spiderman now lol I wasnt going to as well - a fact i should be ashamed of being a geek.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: JOE SOAP on 16 July, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
Spider-Man feels like two incomplete films struggling to be one but at least it's two relatively good incomplete films.
Title: Re: Spider-Man (2012) Reboot
Post by: hoops on 17 July, 2012, 01:22:10 PM
I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it a lot more than i thought i would