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Title: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 31 January, 2011, 11:08:40 PM
All I did was say I didn't like the lawmaster but I was banned for 3 days, whilst under "investigation".  Just wondering?
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:20:12 PM
As the posts below -in sequence of posting- are a sample of yours before the suspension, and the fact that up to the time of this post you're only up to 15 posts, I'd say you were in danger of creating a bit of a fracas judging by the tone of you words. Plus the permanently banned Scojo began to post at the same time to antagonise, I'd say it was part of a group ban to stem the overly negative posting. We all have our confrontations now and again and let them go but to persist with relentless negativity rather than discussion is a bit pointless. My opinion anyway.

QuoteWe're talking established things here.  People expect Dredd to look like Dredd and they expect the lawmaster to actually look like a lawmaster not some puny bland monstrosity.  That's an everyday bike with some bits stuck on it in a vain attempt to make it look futuristic.  It gets worse the more I look at it.  


And is it just me but look how dangerous it would be to ride that bike.  Those handlebars look like they're from a childs tricycle.  

The hands are so close together one false turn and that fat looking Dredd would be eating gravel.


The way this film is going it won't even be in 1D.  It'll either be straight to dvd or shown in about 2 arthouse cinema's.  



Definitely!  There's no getting around it from those 2 pics side by side.  2 Dredd productions and the expensive one is with the guy wearing the biking boots (which were bought in the local bike shop) riding a Lambretta.


It is amazing isn't it.  Minty gets most things spot on (from what we've seen anyway) and yet a bunch of film makers with 45 million churn that out.  Pathetic!  I don't think any amount of cgi backdrops will make that look any better.  Both Dredd and the bike look like they should be in an amateur production.


Let's not make excuses for it......it looks rubbish.  Looks like they've got a fairly ordinary looking bike and stuck a big piece of painted wood on the front plus a gun or two.  That Minty one looks a million times better.  Are these film makers smoking crack or something?


I can't believe anyone's sticking up for that.  It looks cheap.  It also looks like one of those bikes you'd see at a downmarket custom type show.  Dredd's bike should look expensive, BIG and he should look like he's sitting on a whacking great chopper with his hands further up in the air on higher handlebars.  He shouldn't look like he's riding a flippin scooter.  

First of all the uniform looks cheap and not much like the comics (apart from the helmet) and now this cheap looking bike.

I'm losing faith in this production fast.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 31 January, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
Well... it took us a couple of days to gather up the firebrands and pitchforks.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 31 January, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
I thought that was called free speech?  I was just giving my opinion and if I was slandering someone or being abusive then I could understand being banned but just saying you dislike something and pointing it out in a few different replies isn't really what I'd call a banning offence, nor is being "negative".  
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 31 January, 2011, 11:34:24 PM
You were maybe under suspicion of being a Sc*j* sock-puppet. It's happened before.
This is a hayness crime- all suspects must be detained in the iso-cube until guilt can be proved.
If you're unbanned now, you're probably ok.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Professor Bear on 31 January, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:20:12 PMpart of a group ban to stem the overly negative posting.

Surely I can't be the only one that finds that possibility a little worrying?
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 31 January, 2011, 11:40:57 PM
IF it were something along those lines then, yes- that would be shit.
But it's possible that it was something that was done to verify if any of the ban-ees was Sc*j*.

I mean- who's going to dish out a poxy 3-day ban as an e-punishment beating?
Pantywaist talk.
That's never going to stop anyone.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 31 January, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:20:12 PMpart of a group ban to stem the overly negative posting.

Surely I can't be the only one that finds that possibility a little worrying?




If anyone now is under the impression that this forum has ever approached anything compared to board fascism, they ain't been to John Byrne. The thread originally was over 100 pages long without much of a warning or ban from the mods and a lot of ridiculous/good/silly shit was posted.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 January, 2011, 11:46:45 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 31 January, 2011, 11:34:54 PM

Surely I can't be the only one that finds that possibility a little worrying?

TBH, at one point it did look like Scott had registered under multiple IDs. I don't think it was a group ban in the sense you're taking it -- the mods are very diligent before re-banning Scott, but if you've got a whole bunch of people whose posting style looks like him, you haven't really got much choice but to suspend 'em all and then un-ban 'em as you can establish their bonafides.

Quote from: ABCwarBOT
I thought that was called free speech?

You absolutely have free speech. If you want to start your own discussion forum, or post to your own blog. Here, you, I, the Professor, and everyone else, operates at the sufferance of Rebellion who are entitled to make any judgement they choose about the best way to represent and protect their properties.

Note that I have disagreed with them vehemently on this very point in the past and am still here, so, generally speaking, they're pretty laid back.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 31 January, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
I thought that was called free speech?  I was just giving my opinion and if I was slandering someone or being abusive then I could understand being banned but just saying you dislike something and pointing it out in a few different replies isn't really what I'd call a banning offence, nor is being "negative".  


We can all make our point without the need to do it multiple times while not adding anything new each time. Free speech is earned but this is a laid back place in general.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 31 January, 2011, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 31 January, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
I thought that was called free speech?  I was just giving my opinion and if I was slandering someone or being abusive then I could understand being banned but just saying you dislike something and pointing it out in a few different replies isn't really what I'd call a banning offence, nor is being "negative".  


We can all make our point without the need to do it multiple times while not adding anything new each time. Free speech is earned but this is a laid back place in general.


Just looks like normal posting to me.  The type of thing that you see on most forums and it wasn't as if I was saying the same thing over and over. 
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mark Taylor on 01 February, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
Freedom of speech is a right which is oft misunderstood. It allows you to publish your opinions uncensored with very few limitations - but it does not allow you to force others to publish your opinions for you. In other words, this site belongs to Rebellion, and they get to decide what (and if they so choose, who) does and does and doesn't get published on it. If they choose to ban you it isn't a violation of your rights - it's a legitimate exercise of their rights. Freedom of speech means you can go say it elsewhere if you like. Get your own site and you can say anything you want.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2011, 12:03:43 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
Just looks like normal posting to me.  The type of thing that you see on most forums and it wasn't as if I was saying the same thing over and over.  


Depends on how you boil it down, did you think the bike is shit? That's the only thing I read from the posts and by extension the film-makers don't know what they're doing. I don't mind it as a criticism but many posts saying the same thing doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 01 February, 2011, 12:05:19 AM
Well- if you have a problem, you should probably wait until one of the mods comes along and herds us feral kittens, I'm sure they'll be able to discuss things with you, rather than another board rammy kicking off. Fun as it is.
Another ding-dong here isn't really going to achieve anything. None of us can give you any of the details- we're all only trying to guess.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 February, 2011, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 31 January, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
just saying you dislike something and pointing it out in a few different replies isn't really what I'd call a banning offence, nor is being "negative".  
The mods obviously decided it wasn't either or you wouldn't be posting again.

Pretty sure they'd just be checking you weren't him.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 February, 2011, 12:13:13 AM
Also, don't forget that this is the official 2000 AD website which is run by Rebellion.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 01 February, 2011, 12:15:49 AM
yes, but- to be fair- the bike is a bit shit and, tbh, looks nothing like a lawmaster at all.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mark Taylor on 01 February, 2011, 12:16:13 AM
Personally I think Rebellion are being remarkably tolerant. They're a for-profit company, not a charity, and they clearly have a vested interest in the success of the new Dredd movie. It's hardly in their interests to provide a platform for people to slag it off before it's even finished filming.

I've certainly seen other forums which take a far harder line, and have clauses in their posting guidelines along the lines of "This forum is for fans of X so if you're here just to slag it off you'll get banned".
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Michaelvk on 01 February, 2011, 05:17:46 AM
As has been discussed elsewhere, this is the film makers interpretation of Dredd. The bike fits within this world. The comic version would look horribly out of place. We weren't all that sure about the bike either at first, but when the bigger picture emerged, it made sense.

Making the same comment on something seen completely out of context will end up annoying someone enough to take a precautionary measure. Don't get miffed at those that unplugged you for 3 days, be miffed with the one that ruined it for everyone else in the past.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: NSFTM on 01 February, 2011, 09:39:55 AM
As pointed out rebellion is a for profit organization and as loyal customers I'm sure we're allowed an opinion through their official channels (forums, twitter etc).

I would also hope that creators are thick skinned enough to take a bit of 'constructive' feedback..somehow I can't imagine Tharg crying into his polystyrene cups because someone called him a 'loozer' online
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: ANDY T on 01 February, 2011, 09:39:55 AM
As pointed out rebellion is a for profit organization and as loyal customers I'm sure we're allowed an opinion through their official channels (forums, twitter etc).


We were and are. Nothing's ever changed in that regard.

Quote from: ANDY T on 01 February, 2011, 09:39:55 AMI would also hope that creators are thick skinned enough to take a bit of 'constructive' feedback..somehow I can't imagine Tharg crying into his polystyrene cups because someone called him a 'loozer' online.


Somtimes the negative stuff is  never "constructive" but a jab.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: TordelBack on 01 February, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Some of our most prolific members have been very critical of what they've seen from the set of the new movie, and not necessarily in a constructive way. The difference is that their criticisms were made in the context of a discussion and a broader posting pattern, not just popping up and repeatedly saying "it's shit" (you're only allowed to do this in relation to Mark Millar).  Almost everywhere else I've been on this internet thing has had mod-operated guidelines about what sort of posting is acceptable, or desirable, by both the host and the community.  It's not always something I like, but it's reality.  And as others have said, nothing's stopping ardent critics starting a blog called Dredd Movie Lawmaster Looks Shit!, unless of course they happen to present publicly available information about the movie in an organised, positive format, in which case beware...
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: radiator on 01 February, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
Whether you get banned or not, if all your posts are relentlessly negative (and especially if you make sweeping judgements based on blurry, out of context photos) you're just going to end up on the majority of people's 'ignore' lists and no-one will be listening to you anyway.

QuoteJust looks like normal posting to me.  The type of thing that you see on most forums

I'm very glad that this place largely isn't like most other forum on the internet - trawling the forums on, say, AICN just makes me despair.

The way I see it is; criticism is fine, but remember that Rebellion staff, 2000ad writers and artists, and people who are working or have worked on the film all read this board even if they do not post - so keep this in mind.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
We're the blissfully happy medium between AICN and another forum I know where I was warned for using the word shit...I only post here now.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Richmond Clements on 01 February, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
Quoteshit

Hey- watch the fucking language.

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Radbacker on 01 February, 2011, 10:58:37 AM
AICN forum  :o :o that way lies hell trust me, but it is fun to read sometimes.

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Beeks on 01 February, 2011, 11:02:24 AM
Come On!

This isn't a democracy it's a privately run forum!  :lol:
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mark Taylor on 01 February, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 01 February, 2011, 11:02:24 AM
Come On!

This isn't a democracy it's a privately run forum!  :lol:

Exactly. If I owned a forum I'd kick people out for annoying me (at least if they made a habit of it). Rebellion are actually nicer than I would be.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: nicklarr on 01 February, 2011, 07:58:43 PM

QuoteWe're talking established things here.  People expect Dredd to look like Dredd and they expect the lawmaster to actually look like a lawmaster not some puny bland monstrosity.  That's an everyday bike with some bits stuck on it in a vain attempt to make it look futuristic.  It gets worse the more I look at it.  


And is it just me but look how dangerous it would be to ride that bike.  Those handlebars look like they're from a childs tricycle.  

The hands are so close together one false turn and that fat looking Dredd would be eating gravel.


The way this film is going it won't even be in 1D.  It'll either be straight to dvd or shown in about 2 arthouse cinema's.  



Definitely!  There's no getting around it from those 2 pics side by side.  2 Dredd productions and the expensive one is with the guy wearing the biking boots (which were bought in the local bike shop) riding a Lambretta.


It is amazing isn't it.  Minty gets most things spot on (from what we've seen anyway) and yet a bunch of film makers with 45 million churn that out.  Pathetic!  I don't think any amount of cgi backdrops will make that look any better.  Both Dredd and the bike look like they should be in an amateur production.


Let's not make excuses for it......it looks rubbish.  Looks like they've got a fairly ordinary looking bike and stuck a big piece of painted wood on the front plus a gun or two.  That Minty one looks a million times better.  Are these film makers smoking crack or something?


I can't believe anyone's sticking up for that.  It looks cheap.  It also looks like one of those bikes you'd see at a downmarket custom type show.  Dredd's bike should look expensive, BIG and he should look like he's sitting on a whacking great chopper with his hands further up in the air on higher handlebars.  He shouldn't look like he's riding a flippin scooter.  

First of all the uniform looks cheap and not much like the comics (apart from the helmet) and now this cheap looking bike.

I'm losing faith in this production fast.


Annoying whining: 3 days in the cubes - CREEP!  :lol:

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: DrJomster on 01 February, 2011, 09:41:45 PM
Surprisingly gripping thread this!  :)  I have to say, I find Rebellion pretty tolerant to be fair.

Think I'll wait for the film and chat about the bike then.  ;)

I AM optimistic about the film though. Very optimistic. Dare I say, SQUEEEEEEEE  :D or would that be giving away a bit how much I'm looking forward to it?

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 February, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
Whether you get banned or not, if all your posts are relentlessly negative (and especially if you make sweeping judgements based on blurry, out of context photos) you're just going to end up on the majority of people's 'ignore' lists and no-one will be listening to you anyway.

QuoteJust looks like normal posting to me.  The type of thing that you see on most forums

I'm very glad that this place largely isn't like most other forum on the internet - trawling the forums on, say, AICN just makes me despair.

The way I see it is; criticism is fine, but remember that Rebellion staff, 2000ad writers and artists, and people who are working or have worked on the film all read this board even if they do not post - so keep this in mind.



Surely that's all part of the course?  If you're making a film of a well established character and some fans don't like what you're doing then you have to take it in your stride.  That photo wasn't exactly blurry was it.  Some forums just use the words "being negative" to censor opinions they don't like or because of outside pressure.  

There was absolutely nothing wrong with my posts and bunching them together like that  doesn't make them look any worse or over the top as they're just normal....and I didn't even swear.  

Again, I can understand someone being banned for slander, being abusive, spamming or leaking spoilers but being banned for saying you think something looks shit is the type of thing Dredd would be proud of.  
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: vzzbux on 01 February, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
I don't think it was your negativity. Just the fact that the powers that be thought SC*J* had more than one account at the same time and yours happened to fit the bill laying along side his posts. Try not to take it personally. That prick tends to throw disarray wherever he goes you just got caught up in the middle.





V
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: DrJomster on 01 February, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 01 February, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
I don't think it was your negativity. Just the fact that the powers that be thought SC*J* had more than one account at the same time and yours happened to fit the bill laying along side his posts.

Yup. That was my reading too.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2011, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with my posts and bunching them together like that  doesn't make them look any worse or over the top as they're just normal....and I didn't even swear.  

Again, I can understand someone being banned for slander, being abusive, spamming or leaking spoilers but being banned for saying you think something looks shit is the type of thing Dredd would be proud of.  

The thing is, you weren't banned, were you? Your account was suspended while the admins tried to work out whether you (and a slew of other new posters, which is, I suspect, why the process took longer than usual) were actually a long-standing troll who has a lifetime ban from this forum. And, to be clear, your posts looked a lot like Scott's.

Having established, by whatever means the admins have at their disposal, that you weren't Scott (aka Scojo), your account was reinstated. Note that your posts weren't deleted, so all this bleating about censorship doesn't really hold water, does it?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 01 February, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
I don't think it was your negativity. Just the fact that the powers that be thought SC*J* had more than one account at the same time and yours happened to fit the bill laying along side his posts. Try not to take it personally. That prick tends to throw disarray wherever he goes you just got caught up in the middle.


V



I've never even seen this SC*J.  What type of thing was he saying?




Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2011, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with my posts and bunching them together like that  doesn't make them look any worse or over the top as they're just normal....and I didn't even swear.  

Again, I can understand someone being banned for slander, being abusive, spamming or leaking spoilers but being banned for saying you think something looks shit is the type of thing Dredd would be proud of.  

The thing is, you weren't banned, were you? Your account was suspended while the admins tried to work out whether you (and a slew of other new posters, which is, I suspect, why the process took longer than usual) were actually a long-standing troll who has a lifetime ban from this forum. And, to be clear, your posts looked a lot like Scott's.

Having established, by whatever means the admins have at their disposal, that you weren't Scott (aka Scojo), your account was reinstated. Note that your posts weren't deleted, so all this bleating about censorship doesn't really hold water, does it?

Cheers

Jim


Well I can't argue with that.  If this Scott was a problem (and not just someone who said they didn't like certain things) then I can understand.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: TordelBack on 01 February, 2011, 09:57:50 PM
Plus we're 19 posts in at the time of writing, and have you said one positive thing?  That might be 'normal' somewhere, but within my field of vision it's classed as 'whiny'.  If you were a bloke I'd just met in the pub, I'd be wandering off to the other end of the bar.  Chin up lad, and get stuck in.

EDIT:  And there you go, even as I'm typing your very next post turns out to be a sensible one.  Welcome.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Dog Deever on 01 February, 2011, 09:58:51 PM
You REALLY don't want to know- though if you stick around long enough, you'll no doubt find out. Like many of us when we started - you'll be thinking "what a bunch of knee jerk, reactionary wankers- the guy can't be THAT bad", but your opinion WILL change after a couple of SC*J* appearances.
They do say that if you say his name three times, then turn around (widdershins) and touch the ground, he'll appear with a slew of posts.
Then it's pitchforks and firebrands all round.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2011, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
I've never even seen this SC*J.  What type of thing was he saying?

Pretty much exactly what you were saying, pretty much exactly in the way that you were saying it. He hasn't been able to post under his own identity for years, but he periodically sneaks back in under an assumed name, although he is genuinely mentally unwell and pathologically capable of posting here for more than a few days without 'outing' himself.

You can get a flavour of what I'm talking about on alt.comics.2000ad (https://groups.google.com/group/alt.comics.2000ad/browse_thread/thread/ca564d3dfd295267?hl=en#).

So: you weren't banned, you weren't censored, so maybe it's time to let this drop?

Cheers

Jim

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 01 February, 2011, 10:27:55 PM
Slightly off topic but as a one time very semi regular poster its good to see Jim back as last time I looked he'd left. Makes me happy to see you've returned.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 10:50:43 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2011, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
I've never even seen this SC*J.  What type of thing was he saying?

Pretty much exactly what you were saying, pretty much exactly in the way that you were saying it. He hasn't been able to post under his own identity for years, but he periodically sneaks back in under an assumed name, although he is genuinely mentally unwell and pathologically capable of posting here for more than a few days without 'outing' himself.

You can get a flavour of what I'm talking about on alt.comics.2000ad (https://groups.google.com/group/alt.comics.2000ad/browse_thread/thread/ca564d3dfd295267?hl=en#).

So: you weren't banned, you weren't censored, so maybe it's time to let this drop?

Cheers

Jim





I must be missing something.   I can't really see what was bad about what he was saying, not at all (from that posting anyway).  I don't know a lot about Minty but from what I've seen.......he's right isn't he?  The Minty bike does look much better than the DNA one. 
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 10:55:38 PM
And so nobody thinks I've come on here just to be "negative"...here's a few positive things...

I like the casting of Karl Urban, and his helmet!
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Steve Green on 01 February, 2011, 11:00:23 PM
Or not, apparently.

Really, you only have to take a look at alt.comics.2000ad, stretching back years, he will post on, and on, and on about a topic, usually replying to his own posts.

The comic lawmaster wouldn't work in the style that the DNA film is going for. Whether it's better or not is subjective, but also the wrong type of look for this film.

All the other vehicles that we've seen have been modified contemporary ones, either through design choice, or budgetary considerations.

Personally, I don't particularly like the movie bike, even within the design choices of the film. But it's done. Live with it.

It's not going to change unless they decide on rebuilding the thing, and reshooting it.

So I don't really see the point in endlessly flogging a dead horse. Which is essentially what this guy does. It's not particularly healthy or productive.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
ABCwarbot -don't worry about it, I found some of your posts quite amusing.This is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you (sheeesh -he really must miss Stalin terribly).His atitude reminds me of Born on the 4th July "Love it or leave it Pal!Love it or leave it!"
As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions -I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.Bear in mind ABC that some on here still believe Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema  :-[
Keeping posting ABC and above all have fun  :D

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: dweezil2 on 01 February, 2011, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
ABCwarbot -don't worry about it, I found some of your posts quite amusing.This is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you (sheeesh -he really must miss Stalin terribly).His atitude reminds me of Born on the 4th July "Love it or leave it Pal!Love it or leave it!"
As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions -I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.Bear in mind ABC that some on here still believe Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema  :-[
Keeping posting ABC and above all have fun  :D




But Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema-or am I missing something? :o
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
ABCwarbot -don't worry about it, I found some of your posts quite amusing.This is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you (sheeesh -he really must miss Stalin terribly).His atitude reminds me of Born on the 4th July "Love it or leave it Pal!Love it or leave it!"
As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions -I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.Bear in mind ABC that some on here still believe Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema  :-[
Keeping posting ABC and above all have fun  :D




Thanks but the very last thing I want to do is stop people having opinions. 
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: JOE SOAP on 01 February, 2011, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
-I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.


Only when you deserve it, I don't see anyone censoring your posts either.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 11:13:16 PM

As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions


I'm sure Scojo agrees with you.



Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 February, 2011, 11:43:34 PM
You guys just got JOE-WNED
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Hoagy on 02 February, 2011, 12:19:44 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
ABCwarbot -don't worry about it, I found some of your posts quite amusing.This is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you (sheeesh -he really must miss Stalin terribly).His atitude reminds me of Born on the 4th July "Love it or leave it Pal!Love it or leave it!"
As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions -I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.Bear in mind ABC that some on here still believe Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema  :-[
Keeping posting ABC and above all have fun  :D

VOMIT



Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Misanthrope on 02 February, 2011, 12:37:15 AM
QuoteI'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.

Only when they act like cunts.










Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 February, 2011, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 01 February, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 01 February, 2011, 11:03:59 PM
ABCwarbot -don't worry about it, I found some of your posts quite amusing.This is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you (sheeesh -he really must miss Stalin terribly).His atitude reminds me of Born on the 4th July "Love it or leave it Pal!Love it or leave it!"
As I've said before you should just say what you like ,have disagreements but don't try and stop other people having opinions -I'm looking at you Soapy I notice you often slap down newbies.Bear in mind ABC that some on here still believe Robocop was the high-water mark of 80's cinema  :-[
Keeping posting ABC and above all have fun  :D




Thanks but the very last thing I want to do is stop people having opinions. 


You misinterpreted, I didnt mean you ABC
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Emperor on 02 February, 2011, 12:49:32 AM
This:

Quote from: Dog Deever on 31 January, 2011, 11:40:57 PM
IF it were something along those lines then, yes- that would be shit.
But it's possible that it was something that was done to verify if any of the ban-ees was Sc*j*.

and this:

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2011, 09:51:28 PMThe thing is, you weren't banned, were you? Your account was suspended while the admins tried to work out whether you (and a slew of other new posters, which is, I suspect, why the process took longer than usual) were actually a long-standing troll who has a lifetime ban from this forum. And, to be clear, your posts looked a lot like Scott's.

It was, I believe, a Friday, colder than usual for that time of year and the reports were flying in over three accounts. As the other admins (who are more experienced Scojo-Hunters - now there is an idea for a series, the Johns Wagner and Smith could come up with something good for that I'm sure) were a little scarce over the weekend I slapped on 3 day bans after a quick consultation. The evidence suggested you weren't Scojo (although if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck you do have to wait for the DNA tests to come in before you can go and crispy it up and get the pancakes out) while the other two likely were, so the ban lapsed while the other two were kicked up to permanent.

Sorry for the inconvenience but there is one obsessive loon and a lot of spambots so people do occasionally get caught in the crossfire - it is either this or nothing I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Misanthrope on 02 February, 2011, 01:06:49 AM
QuoteYou misinterpreted, I didnt mean you ABC

Get a room, you two.

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 February, 2011, 01:16:52 AM


Sorry for the inconvenience but there is one obsessive loon and a lot of spambots so people do occasionally get caught in the crossfire - it is either this or nothing I'm afraid.
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Emperor eh?No overtones there then.To quote the great professor of philosophy Dr Pepper -whats the worst that can happen? :-*
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: M.I.K. on 02 February, 2011, 01:59:50 AM
Does Scojo have a brother?
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mardroid on 02 February, 2011, 05:23:21 AM
Quote from: Emperor on 02 February, 2011, 12:49:32 AM
It was, I believe, a Friday, colder than usual for that time of year and the reports were flying in over three accounts. As the other admins ... were a little scarce over the weekend I slapped on 3 day bans after a quick consultation. The evidence suggested you weren't Scojo (although if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck you do have to wait for the DNA tests to come in before you can go and crispy it up and get the pancakes out) ...

Are you writing a script for the pulp comic by any chance? :D
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Michaelvk on 02 February, 2011, 05:38:54 AM
S'funny.. Nobody picked on me being new.. I thinks that was a lifetime first..
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 February, 2011, 07:23:17 AM
QuoteThis is not entirely a proper forum with free speech , as Mark Taylor put it -the only free speech you have here is what we give you

Maybe you could point me towards an instance when you have had your posts 'censored'?
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: James Stacey on 02 February, 2011, 09:29:03 AM
'scuse for asking but the compartmentalised geek in me has to say, does this thread really belong in the film discussion?
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 February, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 02 February, 2011, 09:29:03 AM
'scuse for asking but the compartmentalised geek in me has to say, does this thread really belong in the film discussion?

Good point- off we go!
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2011, 12:06:26 PM
Quote
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 02 February, 2011, 01:16:52 AM


Sorry for the inconvenience but there is one obsessive loon and a lot of spambots so people do occasionally get caught in the crossfire - it is either this or nothing I'm afraid.

Emperor eh?No overtones there then.To quote the great professor of philosophy Dr Pepper -whats the worst that can happen? :-*
He's a bit like the Matrix in that nobody can tell you what it is he does- it's just something you have to experience for yourself.  I can tell you that in 10 years, I've only ever known two people to be banned from this place- and he's one of them.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
I don't know what happened with the quote there- but I can't be bothered to edit it.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Richmond Clements on 02 February, 2011, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
I don't know what happened with the quote there- but I can't be bothered to edit it.

Sigh- okay, I'll do it...
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 02 February, 2011, 12:42:08 PM
Got to say I'm really intrigued now.Feels a bit like walking into the Slaughtererd Lamb, with a cluster of frightened villagers inside -"Beware strangers, dont stray far from the path , there be a monster out yonder , lurking , waiting......." oooooohh."What be his name I ask", and and hushed tones they whisper "Scojo!"

Hmmm,  post some pics of what you think he looks like ,the most amusing and appropriate photofit will be made into a new 2000ad villan (well, possibly maybe) :D
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Steve Green on 02 February, 2011, 02:33:26 PM
Not the best example.

So one of you will get turned into a rotting ghost, and the other will get turned into a werewolf.

On the upside, that one may get to sleep with Jenny Agutter. So it's not all bad.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: vzzbux on 02 February, 2011, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 02 February, 2011, 12:42:08 PM
Got to say I'm really intrigued now.Feels a bit like walking into the Slaughtererd Lamb, with a cluster of frightened villagers inside -"Beware strangers, dont stray far from the path , there be a monster out yonder , lurking , waiting......." oooooohh."What be his name I ask", and and hushed tones they whisper "Scojo!"

Hmmm,  post some pics of what you think he looks like ,the most amusing and appropriate photofit will be made into a new 2000ad villan (well, possibly maybe) :D
To paste his profile on this board without his permission would invade his privacy, no matter how much of a cunt SC*J* is that would be out of order and potentially get the administrators in the shit.
I think someone in another thread did this so if you want to see what he looks like then go trawling through the endless threads of last year.




V
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mrpepperami on 02 February, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
God reading this has been interesting. Scojo sounds like he was the 2000ad anti-christ
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Not really- that makes him sound almost important.  Which he isn't.  He's forum cancer.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: mogzilla on 02 February, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 02 February, 2011, 05:38:54 AM
S'funny.. Nobody picked on me being new.. I thinks that was a lifetime first..
yeah but you gave something good to the board not like the idiots in question
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Mrpepperami on 02 February, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Not a fan of posters like that. Makes you wonder how they became fans in the first place as they hate everything. As far as I'm concerned, I've never got the whole fan outcry on things that differ on movie adaptations and stuff. Comics, movies etc are an art form and just like art some of the interpretations you like an others you don't. But to discount something just because it's different to the norm, I find close minded. Hope the movie is good. Have read alot of dredd but hope it does offer a different kind of twist as i don't wanna just see an old story just put on screen, I want the dredd world expanded and put in new and interesting directions.
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: w3bz on 02 February, 2011, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: Matt Timson on 02 February, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Not really- that makes him sound almost important.  Which he isn't.  He's forum cancer.

Truth ;)
Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: Jared Katooie on 02 February, 2011, 07:19:56 PM
He has brain problems.

In his brain.

Title: Re: Why was I banned?
Post by: The Big Man on 03 February, 2011, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 02 February, 2011, 07:19:56 PM
He has brain problems.

In his brain.



His hair's mad too.