Any truth to the rumor that Dredd will have a sneak peek premiere at SDCC?
Be very surprising if they didn't have SOMEthing to show.
Considering the movie is released in about seven or eight months, it would be insane NOT to build some awareness in the U.S. of Dredd's impending release, probably a teaser trailer and some stills, maybe even a panel or a presentation of some kind, with a personal apearance by Karl Urban certain to make some waves. Either way, I can't see them passing up such a media-heavy event, would you...?
Promote the Dredd movie?
At a comic event?
Are you mad!!!!!!
Dredd will have not have much competition if he does turn up because some of the big names are not going to bother,too much money and they don't need to apparently because we will watch the next biggie anyway?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=21969&count=0
Quote from: Buddy on 14 June, 2011, 07:54:10 AM
Promote the Dredd movie?
At a comic event?
Are you mad!!!!!!
:lol: :lol:
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 June, 2011, 08:39:33 AM
Dredd will have not have much competition if he does turn up because some of the big names are not going to bother,too much money and they don't need to apparently because we will watch the next biggie anyway?
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=21969&count=0
That's not the main reason though. The BIG fear from the movie studios is they'll show something and it'll get a negative reaction from the fans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/business/media/13comic.html
"Comic-Con, as a growing number of movie marketers are realizing, has turned into a treacherous place. Studios come seeking buzz, but the Comic-Con effect can be more negative than positive. The swarm of dedicated fans — many of whom arrive at the convention in Japanese anime drag or draped in Ewok fur — can instantly sour on a film if it doesn't like what it sees, leaving publicity teams with months of damaging Web chatter to clean up.
"It's a red-letter opportunity, but you shouldn't go simply because it sits there on the calendar," said Michael Moses, co-president of marketing for Universal Pictures. "You have to be absolutely certain you have goods ready that can really make a difference for your film."
Even a joyous reaction at Comic-Con, which takes place in San Diego from July 21 to 24, can skew expectations, as a platoon of studios learned last year, if hard-core enthusiasm doesn't spill into the mainstream.
Warner got burned with "Sucker Punch," which had fans vibrating with excitement in July but failed in its March release. The millions that Disney spent on "Tron: Legacy" at Comic-Con had a less-than-fantastic payoff. A stunt involving video of attendees trapped in coffins made a splash for Lionsgate's "Buried," but the film sold just $1 million in tickets when it opened two months later.
"Scott Pilgrim vs. the World" was the big alarm. That Universal movie was the belle of last year's convention, and the studio spent heavily to make it so, draping the entire side of a skyscraper with an ad, for instance. Released just three weeks after the convention, "Scott Pilgrim" fizzled and the $60 million movie sold just $32 million in tickets."
Excellent post Blackmocco, that was very interesting
So judging by the tone of that article, there is no benefit whatsoever?
If the geeks hate what they see, they've got enough power to poison the interwebs against a film, and if they like it, they're a minority and don't have enough of an impact of a genre film?
I haven't seen Sucker Punch or Scott Pilgrim. There may have been a buzz from San Diego about Sucker Punch, but most of the views I read prior to its release were pretty lukewarm.
Scott Pilgrim, although I love Edgar Wright's stuff, I'm just incredibly picky about what I see at the cinema these days, it's too expensive and SP just passed me by.
Quote from: Steve Green on 14 June, 2011, 07:52:28 PM
So judging by the tone of that article, there is no benefit whatsoever?
If the geeks hate what they see, they've got enough power to poison the interwebs against a film, and if they like it, they're a minority and don't have enough of an impact of a genre film?
I haven't seen Sucker Punch or Scott Pilgrim. There may have been a buzz from San Diego about Sucker Punch, but most of the views I read prior to its release were pretty lukewarm.
Scott Pilgrim, although I love Edgar Wright's stuff, I'm just incredibly picky about what I see at the cinema these days, it's too expensive and SP just passed me by.
Hahaha! I think 'lukewarm' is being very generous to Sucker Punch and the reaction it got here in the States when it opened: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sucker-punch-2010/
As for the studios and their fears about a movie being well-received, it's a tough sell. Of course Sucker Punch got great buzz at Comic-Con. Hot chicks in lingerie with big guns, robots and dragons playing to a crowd of mostly sad males who live in their mother's basement...? (For those of you who'll accuse me of generalizing, trust me: I've been there numerous times. Every cliche has some basis in truth and no cliche more so than at San Diego Comic-Con. It's like a portal to another dimension I hope I never,
ever get stranded in...)
The point being Sucker Punch was never going to play to a mainstream audience anyway and the studios should have known that going in. William Goldman's timeless quote about Hollywood and Hollywood executives: "Nobody knows anything."
I think they should play the low budget angle. Look at the recent breakers of the glass ceilings. Films such as Moon, District Nine, Monsters(maybe not monsters). Thing is, in a corner you must think of an original approach and the lack of funds or faith in the production can build some imaginative approaches to PR.
When I first saw the trailer I just rolled my eyes, and guessed that it wasn't for me... seems like there were a lot of other people who felt the same.
Why they're trusting Snyder with Superman beggars belief even with the shadow of the Nolans (not the band) hanging over.
I'm actually pretty interested in the new Supes movie, Zack Snyder did what most people thought impossible- bringing Watchmen to the big-screen faithfully- and Chris Nolan's 'godfather' role over the whle project may ensure it's a quality movie, but time will tell, I guess...
I've read that the new Superman movie was handed to Snyder because the studio wanted someone who wouldn't rock the boat too much.
Apparently they know the script is a bit of a stinker, but it's too late to do anything about, so they didn't want to involve a director who would insist on making changes and disrupting everything.
That's probably a load of bollocks though.
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 18 June, 2011, 04:56:29 AM
I'm actually pretty interested in the new Supes movie, Zack Snyder did what most people thought impossible- bringing Watchmen to the big-screen faithfully
I think I seen a different version of Watchmen than you.
Nothing but truth, sadly. Warners loses the rights to make a Superman movie pretty soon if they don't have one in production so this is getting pissed through the pipeline. Lame. Also, I wouldn't get too excited about Christopher Nolan's involvement. It's in name only, apparently, to get seats on bums.
Yeah, that's what I've heard too... this Superman film is being fast tracked to retain the rights and Snyder got the gig 'cause he'll do what he's told and get a fast turn around on it.
I mean.. Lindsy Lohan is in it! (and for that reason alone I'll never watch it)
You have to ask yourself just how serious they are taking this.
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 June, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
Nothing but truth, sadly. Warners loses the rights to make a Superman movie pretty soon if they don't have one in production so this is getting pissed through the pipeline. Lame. Also, I wouldn't get too excited about Christopher Nolan's involvement. It's in name only, apparently, to get seats on bums.
Chris Nolan yes has fuck all really to do but, it's from his brother's story, so it's not that black & white.
However it turns out, it can't be much worse than Bryan Singer's snooze-fest Superman Returns, I mean, Singer said if he had to do it again, he'd just remake Donner's timeless 1978 movie... words fail me...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 June, 2011, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 June, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
Nothing but truth, sadly. Warners loses the rights to make a Superman movie pretty soon if they don't have one in production so this is getting pissed through the pipeline. Lame. Also, I wouldn't get too excited about Christopher Nolan's involvement. It's in name only, apparently, to get seats on bums.
Chris Nolan yes has fuck all really to do but, it's from his brother's story, so it's not that black & white.
Aye, his brother's involved but it's David Goyer who figured out how to approach the movie. God help us all.
Chris Nolan:
"..What it is, while David Goyer and myself were putting together the story for another Batman film a few years ago, you know thrashing out where we might move on from the Dark Knight, we got stuck. We were just sitting there idly chatting and he said "by the way, I think know how you approach Superman".. and he told me his take on it. I thought it was really tremendous. It was the first time I've been able to conceive of how you'd address Superman in a modern context I thought it was a really exciting idea. What you have to remember about Batman and Superman is that what makes them the best superhero characters there are, the most beloved after all this time, is the essence of who they were when they were created, when they were first developed. You can't move too far away from that."I hope it's good. I really do but Goyer's a disaster when left on his own and throwing Snyder into the mix just gives me the wrong vibe. He just didn't understand Watchmen. Paid attention to all the wrong scenes and hashed over all the parts of the book I thought were interesting. (I'm not saying there was anyone else who could have pulled it off, mind you but someone with a little more understanding of subtlety would have been welcome.)
Personally, Superman just doesn't work for me as a character too well. He's too powerful, too impervious and I s'pose, just too clean-cut for my tastes but I'd love to see a movie done well on the same scale as the 1978 version. I know it's pretty cheesy to look at these days but making one of these movies that can cater to a general audience and the core fanbase so effortlessly seems to be something of a lost art these days. Would have loved to see what Aronofsky would have done with this...
C'mon, you think the Richard Donner 1978 movie is "cheesy to look at these days", REALLY? I would still put it up there as THE definitive comic-book adaptation to date; thrilling, spectacular, funny, and genuinely touching, not to mention THAT theme tune, what more could you ask for (the only thing wrong with it is that Donner didn't return to complete Superman II)...!? But the upcoming Dredd movie will hopefully give it a run for it's money (in a different way, of course, given the very different source material)...
It's cheesy in the sense that it didn't have to be particularly inventive to grab an audience's attention. Obviously, it was 1978 and the bar hadn't been set very high in terms of comic-to-movie adaptations. I still love it, don't get me wrong and Chris Reeve is still the Superman to be bettered. It's a perfect adaptation. It really is. It has everything: The scale, the cast, the running time, the soundtrack even if to this day, I still don't quite understand the ending!
As for Donner, it's no surprise to me why the first X-Men worked so well. He's a director (Well, producer in X-Men's case) who understands how to bring these movies to life...
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2011, 06:47:40 AM
It's a perfect adaptation.
...apart from Lex luthor, who's played like a Vaudville villain and the
deus ex machina of turning-back-time to save Lois.
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 21 June, 2011, 05:16:33 AM
But the upcoming Dredd movie will hopefully give it a run for it's money (in a different way, of course, given the very different source material)...
Not in terms of
box-office, it won't.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 June, 2011, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: blackmocco on 21 June, 2011, 06:47:40 AM
It's a perfect adaptation.
...apart from Lex luthor, who's played like a Vaudville villain and the deus ex machina of turning-back-time to save Lois.
Yeah, still don't quite understand the end! Haha! If he saves Lois by going back in time, does that mean he doesn't actually do all the other stuff he was doing while she was dying...? Stopping the flood, saving the train...?
Nah it means he is in two places at once and when old supe catches up in time he ceases to exist. You know timey wimey stuff.
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 21 June, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
Nah it means he is in two places at once and when old supe catches up in time he ceases to exist. You know timey wimey stuff.
Thats how i've always read it too. And the Earth
doesnt turn backwards - its just a visual metaphor to show that Supes is
going back in time.
Also, that ending was originally for Superman 2 - they ended up using it for Superman 1 because production was rushed to get it out in time, and at that point they hadn't written the
actual ending! (if you get what i mean, my english aint great!) :)
Quote from: Woolly on 21 June, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
And the Earth doesnt turn backwards - its just a visual metaphor to show that Supes is going back in time.
I don't think anyone argues with that but my gripe is he interfered with 'Earth's' history -stated clearly by his father- and is a dramatic cop-out which destroys the emotion, the impact of losing Lois, the point of the moral conflict in the previous 'hero' scenes and Supe's stress of desperately trying to save everyone in the first place. The end consequence more or less saying '
it all didn't matter cos he went back and saved her anyway so he needn't have worried 'bout having to do it all at once in the first place.' A total cop-out.
Quote from: vzzbux on 21 June, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
Nah it means he is in two places at once and when old supe catches up in time he ceases to exist. You know timey wimey stuff.
V
I guess it says more about me than the movie itself that it's taken 33 years for that to finally make sense to me. Never considered there'd be another Supes. Haha! Even as a kid, all I was thinking was "wait, who's saving the train now...?"
Fucking time travel.
I actually meant that I hoped Dredd would give the Donner Superman movie "a run for it's money" in terms of quality for a comic-book adaptation, not in terms of box-office, which, considering Dredd himself is a relatively obscure (outside the U.K. and Ireland) character, plus the fact that it's likely to be a very adult R-rated movie, it's pretty certain it won't make as much as Superman- even when adjusted for inflation.
In regards to the whole 'turning back time' paradox in the 1978 movie, I always thought that Supes turned back time to re-do his attempts to restore order following the nuclear missile-caused earthquake, he basically did everything again you saw him do first time, but because he knew what he did wrong the first time, he was able to do it right second time out- including making sure the fault line didn't reach Lois this time, which would explain why her car was never buried after Supes turned back time... phew, I hope that clears things up somewhat, I'm off for a lie down, my head hurts and I'm feeling a little dizzy, goodnight gracie...
Yeah, at least Dredd never did a time travel story, anyone with bionic eyes knows that.
It's more the Deux Ex Machina aspect.
There is the line from Brando about interfering in human history, but being able to fly really quick and reverse time comes a bit out of nowhere...
City of the Damned has time-travel from the off.
Quote from: Angry Vince on 22 June, 2011, 06:53:02 AM
Yeah, at least Dredd never did a time travel story, anyone with bionic eyes knows that.
The point is not whether or not time travel was involved but that dramatically something so extraordinary was introduced out-of-nowhere (never having been mentioned/set-up in the world of the film before as being possible) and just utilised as a device to merely resurrect a 'known' comic character. It made what had happened previously pointless/worthless and diffused the drama. It's the equivalent of pulling a gun out of thin air, lazy storytelling.
At least in
Dredd, they were Time Travel stories from the beginning and were set-up from the start as that.
Lena Headey will be at Comic Con promoting "Game of Thrones" on Thursday 21st July.
Dont think there wiil be much on show at comic con,Lionsgate will be at the empire big screen show at the 02 on the 12-14 of august could be a teaser trailer then fingers crossed!
It a big event to miss out promoting at, . . . . equals a loss in promo $$$$ not to even highlight a potential big movie coming out next year surely?!
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 20 June, 2011, 05:53:16 AM
However it turns out, it can't be much worse than Bryan Singer's snooze-fest Superman Returns, I mean, Singer said if he had to do it again, he'd just remake Donner's timeless 1978 movie... words fail me...
Interesting..
I don't mind waiting but a pic of Anderson would be nice.
Ditto on the Anderson Picture! . . . and it better be a good quality one, not some blurry out of focus, emerging from the shadows, 1 megapixel rubbish!
Quote from: Psidude on 14 July, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
Dont think there wiil be much on show at comic con,Lionsgate will be at the empire big screen show at the 02 on the 12-14 of august could be a teaser trailer then fingers crossed!
Possibly - and that teaser could be attached to Conan, opening the 19th of August.
Caters to an overlapping audience and all. But honestly, I doubt will see much this side of 2012.
The Minty uniform is there!
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5960542876_fce1020a43_z.jpg)
CF would not approve of the way the gun's being pointed :D
I must point out the suffering for His Art that the Molcher Droid has undergone to be masquerading as Dredd at SDCC, namely the loss of metallic growth on said Droids Chin, and bartering his spare droid parts with US customs in order to get the Lawgiver through US Customs.
That awkward walk isnt just from the boots, I'll have you know.
Shouldn't you be sculpting figures or something, instead of chattering on the web-o-tron...? Lay-about.
#Ducks head and get back to pushing clay#
Screw Urban's big helmet, now thats a real judge, . . . look at that chin it's cast in steel!!! :P
Isn't he a little tall for a judge...? :)
Quote from: Noisybast on 21 July, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
Isn't he a little tall for a judge...? :)
He also stood in front of his speech balloon...which is ironic, since Molcher took this photo of me at Kapow!
(http://www.termight.co.uk/images/dredd_suit/kapow.jpg)
Terrible weapon hold :crazy: and what is that stuffed into your trousers/on the belt :-*
Show pass presumably :)
I guess it was either there or stuck to the helmet...
If you wear the costume like you mean it, you don't need a pass. ;)
CF just barged to the front of every queue last time he put on a Judge costume at a convention. It was almost as if people were expecting it of him.
Don't forget to hand out some random beatings Mike!
Just point to the badge - 'this is all the authority I need'
Aieee!
Dredd unmasked! :)
Oh and Mongrol as well...
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285503_169211236483182_134209063316733_376736_2918655_n.jpg)
JESUS CHRIST
THIS IS WORSE THAN WHEN I WATCHED STALLONE REMOVE THE HELMET. DOES MOLCH-R KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PR, I FEEL SICK AND NEED TO GO TO BED NOW!
Easy John.
Deep Breaths.
It's only a comic.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 July, 2011, 09:16:39 AM
The Minty uniform is there!
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5960542876_fce1020a43_z.jpg)
:lol:
A decade of experience in journalism and PR ...
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 09:36:54 AM
A decade of experience in journalism and PR ...
It shows...
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 09:36:54 AM
A decade of experience in journalism and PR ...
Did they make you change your name by deed poll too? 'Cos that's be
cool.
http://hashonomy.com/link/pottergate-we-publish-the-secret-tapes-telegraph-53970/
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 July, 2011, 09:36:54 AM
A decade of experience in journalism and PR ...
Mate- I didn't even recognise you at first!
:lol:
Me either.
Makes sense of why he was whining on twitter about the heat!
Bah. His jaw's too big.
Should have kept the beard- Dredd's got stubble now, you know.
Molch-R's probably got it in a bag somewhere. Bit of spraymount, problem solved.
I have now been laughing for two days. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mike's inner Dredd has risen to the surface! Much meaner.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5963676470_07b1479d49_z.jpg)
It's been said before, but that costume is truly great.
WELL DONE MOLCH-R :thumbsup:
Looking pretty badass there :)
Quote from: Minty on 22 July, 2011, 04:06:01 PM
Mike's inner Dredd has risen to the surface! Much meaner.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5963676470_07b1479d49_z.jpg)
Very cool.
Shut my mouth if that's not the most awesome lookin' non-official JD pic ever- if only the Stallone version had looked that good (with Rutger Hauer under the helmet)! If there's gonna be a sequel to Dredd, which at this rate should be around spring 2139, I nominate Minty and his most excellent design team for the job, how about it dude...?
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5963676470_07b1479d49_z.jpg)
He looks like he's trying to hold in a big cry.
Sweaty attendee with hygiene issues just out of shot...
That helmet's too small- Eagle's too flat- etc., etc...
How're his shoulders?
helmet looks like a skull cap and theres no face stubble! ;) seriously great outfit! hope amy winehouse did not want to see dredd :(
Makes the video at about 55 secs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U42l6ZGg8c&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U42l6ZGg8c&feature=player_embedded)
Jaysus...he looks stiff-as-a-board.
RPF is one of the largest online communities for replica prop makers in the world (if not the largest). Quite encouraging that they choose to include a snippet of Dredd, with all the other stuff on show.
There are quite a few pros on RPF and the standard of work from some of the members is ridiculously high.
I think Mike looks cool! Good work Mike.
The problem is you never know who is filming you, from what angle and when, so ultimately you sometimes get caught out when you relax. Still, good clip :D
I don't know what people expect - him to be doing fucking star jumps all day in case someone catches him with a camera...
At least there are no pictures floating about with him not wearing the helmet ;)
Well, there should be another Dredd there today.
I'm not sure who's the evil twin or robot double though...
Quote from: Steve Green on 23 July, 2011, 08:13:44 PM
I don't know what people expect - him to be doing fucking star jumps all day in case someone catches him with a camera...
Yes, in-character too and he should never scatch when he itches.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
At least there are no pictures floating about with him not wearing the helmet ;)
S'pose if I was going to emulate the woman who sued Disneyland for emotional distress because her kids saw Mickey Mouse unmasked (to reveal a sweaty, spotty teenager) I'd probably have had to sue Stallone back in 1995, right...? Haha!
Quote from: Psidude on 23 July, 2011, 05:46:42 PMhope amy winehouse did not want to see dredd :(
That didn't take long..
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 July, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
Jaysus...he looks stiff-as-a-board.
The trousers are too loose to be able tell.
Another one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mooshuu/5963676202/in/set-72157627129008711
Is that costume massive or is it like the Tardis? Otherwise I can't see how they got such a... long glass of water into a half pint pot.
I notice there aren't any photos of him standing next to normal-sized humans, which might give the game away - Tharg had Molch-R shrunk for SDCC, as it makes transporting droids a lot easier.
There are 2 costumes, although I think for Mike the jacket is from the smaller one, but the trousers are from the larger set.
Quote from: Emperor on 24 July, 2011, 03:34:30 AM
Another one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mooshuu/5963676202/in/set-72157627129008711
Is that costume massive or is it like the Tardis? Otherwise I can't see how they got such a... long glass of water into a half pint pot.
I notice there aren't any photos of him standing next to normal-sized humans, which might give the game away - Tharg had Molch-R shrunk for SDCC, as it makes transporting droids a lot easier.
You know, the wind'll change and it'll stay like that..
There are actually electrodes in the helmet, just to make people grimace.
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 July, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
The problem is you never know who is filming you, from what angle and when, so ultimately you sometimes get caught out when you relax. Still, good clip :D
You NEVER relaxed when you wore the suit John, you were having far too much fun and were way too deep in character to relax!
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 July, 2011, 01:20:38 PM
There are actually electrodes in the helmet, just to make people grimace.
There's a little speaker inside that keeps saying 'you suck'.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 24 July, 2011, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 24 July, 2011, 01:20:38 PM
There are actually electrodes in the helmet, just to make people grimace.
There's a little speaker inside that keeps saying 'you suck'.
For a smart guy, you don't half let petty jealousy spur you, Joe. ;)
(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f24/judge-dredd-costume-comic-book-version-judge-minty-img_0397.jpg-60527d1311623594)
2 Dredds, (not to same scale)
Poor them, have to re-designed after new Dredd film photos!
Not fucking likely.
Judges Ocks and Kwan more like.
V
I just noticed that Mike is wearing his Molcher badge... :)
Dredd/Molch-r arrests a hungry Futsie
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/commandoforces/2000ad%20Sites/BooCookandDredd.jpg)
It's how they keep the art droids in check...