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Title: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 05:59:49 PM
I don't really.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 06:04:47 PM
But let's just compare them anyway:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YaSH4rKompM/TWesRGhsJ2I/AAAAAAAAIew/I6oA8XD4zQA/s1600/dreddss.jpg)

(http://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/media/library/images/movies/dredd-empire-cover.jpg)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: James Stacey on 18 August, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
I bet Stallone will say Luuuuaaaaaaarrrrrghhhhhh better than Urban ever can.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Ooh, you rascal, you!

They're both pretty faithful in their way, although I'm not keen on the lycra look of the first film's. (Mind you the comic version sometimes looks like that. Especially on Anderson... for obvious saucy reason.

Off-topic, but I was actually turning through the Restricted Files volume in Waterstones just the other day and I came across an amusing strip. Carry On Judging. Brilliant likeness of some of the characters, although Barbera Windsor - I think it was her - didn't look right. Anderson actually says the line 'Mmmm... saucy', or words to that effect. (While fingering some goo off a guys head. Dirty girl.)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Ooh, you rascal, you!

That was directed at the first post. I should have quoted, but you guys have such lightening fingers...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Ooh, you rascal, you!

That was directed at the first post. I should have quoted, but you guys have such lightening fingers...

Don't worry, I'm guessing James is preparing himself to forgive you  :)

Anyway, yeah, I have that Carry on Judging somewhere, notable for beginning the story with an absolutely filthy double entendre - utterly shocking for the time. 

Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: James Stacey on 18 August, 2011, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 06:17:42 PM
Don't worry, I'm guessing James is preparing himself to forgive you  :)

I really don't know if I ever can  :'(
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Goaty on 18 August, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
Why Stallone's shite?
Looking at the codpiece!!!
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 August, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
Why Stallone's shite?
Looking at the codpiece!!!

Imagine the size of his balls.

(http://www.blather.net/withnail.jpg)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: vzzbux on 18 August, 2011, 08:09:03 PM
No contest really.
Stallone looks like cosplay gone wrong. No elbow pads and Knee pads are virtually non existant. True to the comic book my arse.





V
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: malkymac on 18 August, 2011, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Mardroid on 18 August, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Ooh, you rascal, you!

They're both pretty faithful in their way, although I'm not keen on the lycra look of the first film's. (Mind you the comic version sometimes looks like that. Especially on Anderson... for obvious saucy reason.

Off-topic, but I was actually turning through the Restricted Files volume in Waterstones just the other day and I came across an amusing strip. Carry On Judging. Brilliant likeness of some of the characters, although Barbera Windsor - I think it was her - didn't look right. Anderson actually says the line 'Mmmm... saucy', or words to that effect. (While fingering some goo off a guys head. Dirty girl.)

I think the setting for that story was 'Legover City 1' or something similar.

'Pick em up Judge Bristols!... I meant your feet!'.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: watto911 on 18 August, 2011, 09:32:58 PM
I'm going to stick my head above the parapet here and say something I might regret. I actually PREFER the helmet from the '95 version.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2011, 09:36:39 PM




                              PRICK
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Bit harsh.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2011, 09:43:46 PM
I'm sure the lycra was.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Hoagy on 18 August, 2011, 10:12:26 PM
Has it been said before that Stallone's Dredd was a bit self-indulgent?
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2011, 10:15:10 PM
...not as a Dredd film it wasn't, as a Stallone film yes.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Goaty on 18 August, 2011, 10:22:38 PM
Quote from: watto911 on 18 August, 2011, 09:32:58 PM
I'm going to stick my head above the parapet here and say something I might regret. I actually PREFER the helmet from the '95 version.

nah, it too small, like the prick!
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Hoagy on 18 August, 2011, 10:32:12 PM
Yeah, Stallone self-indulging in a role he thought was the ultimate in pure-form action hero for the big screen. The comic book hero. All he had a fleeting knowledge of though was maybe Judge Dredd bought it but was more interested in making a film about himself rather than adapting a character.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: mogzilla on 18 August, 2011, 10:57:51 PM
watto, i too liked the stallone lid.but not better than the correct version.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: malkymac on 19 August, 2011, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 18 August, 2011, 06:04:47 PM
But let's just compare them anyway:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YaSH4rKompM/TWesRGhsJ2I/AAAAAAAAIew/I6oA8XD4zQA/s1600/dreddss.jpg)

(http://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/media/library/images/movies/dredd-empire-cover.jpg)

I remember reading that they went for the lycra uniform in the 95 movie because it would be too uncomfortable for the actors to  wear leather uniforms under the studio lights. Just goes to show that the current lot of actors are made of sterner stuff than Stallone.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 19 August, 2011, 01:26:14 PM
Of everything about the 95 movie, the helmet bothers me least. At the time, the lack of a nose piece bugged the hell out of me, since as a piece of design it seemed similar to making Spidey and leaving the webs off the mask, or making the hulk blue. However, im shallow enough to admit that it didnt take me long to accept it- seeing it in comics form in LotF and then the main dredd strip (hi siku!), etc, 'legitimised' it for me. A shame it further removes the 'skull face' aspect of the very early strips, but the strip's never stood still for long, so...

This time around i brethed easily once i saw the nosepiece had been reinstated, i admit. Though i'd love to know whether it was ever going to be redesigned during preproduction, and how close we came to yet another version, if at all.

SBT
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: radiator on 19 August, 2011, 01:36:37 PM
Think I remember early on someone saying that the filmmakers regarded the design of the helmet/visor as sacred and there was never a question of altering it in a drastic way. Didn't they actually have a meeting win the Minty guys to see their take on it? With regards to rest of the uniform, John Wagner said that he is pleasantly surprised to see how close it is to the comic version - apparently he had seen some earlier versions that were quite far removed and very 'paramilitary' in feel, and he had suggested that they go back towards the comic version. Really glad he did! Think we have ended up with something that is a good compromise between modern, practical-looking and faithful to the original. It actually looks very much like I imagined it would when the film was first announced.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 August, 2011, 01:40:07 PM
I'm pretty much of the same opinion regarding the Stallone movie's judge helmet and also the gun. But looking at that picture, it's pretty bizarre to hear people bleating about the new uniform and saying the Stallone one was accurate to the comic. Here's, in reality what you've got:

- Inaccurate helmet design (compared to the faithful one in Dredd).
- Legless eagle (compared to an eagle 'imprint' on a shoulder pad).
- Reasonably accurate collar (compared to the full-on biker's collar in Dredd).
- Fairly accurate stylised left-hand shoulder piece (compared to the 1970s-style one in Dredd).
- Badge placed near the armpit (as opposed to Dredd's chest badge, albeit within the chain).
- Lycra (versus leather).
- No elbow pads and bling gauntlets (instead of the accurate ones in Dredd).
- Judge Codpiece (instead of something 99.9% less hideous in Dredd).
- Wee black kneepads and bling boots (versus accurate ones, again).

Plus, as has been said here elsewhere, the Stallone uniform looks like some warped dress uniform for a parade, versus something you could actually use to combat crime.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Steve Green on 19 August, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Yep, Dan went along to DNA's office with Darren (who's been Dredd at a couple of Cons) in costume.

I think the helmet was pretty much sacrosanct from the off, and they did pick up on the scratches from the damaged helmet we use, and liked that look as well.

They did borrow the helmet for a while, for reference.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: watto911 on 20 August, 2011, 12:46:16 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2011, 09:36:39 PM




                              PRICK
I'm Hoping, Joe, that you are referring to Stallone with the over the top prick comment othewise it's rather dissapointing that you would disregard someboby else's opinion in such a manner. Afterall it's just an opinion.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 August, 2011, 12:49:58 AM
After all...it being 'over-the-top' an' all...wouldn't it be a joke..?
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: watto911 on 20 August, 2011, 12:52:45 AM
Hilarious
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 20 August, 2011, 12:54:00 AM
I thought so, what a codpiece!
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 20 August, 2011, 04:14:06 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 19 August, 2011, 01:40:07 PM
I'm pretty much of the same opinion regarding the Stallone movie's judge helmet and also the gun. But looking at that picture, it's pretty bizarre to hear people bleating about the new uniform and saying the Stallone one was accurate to the comic. Here's, in reality what you've got:

- Inaccurate helmet design (compared to the faithful one in Dredd).
- Legless eagle (compared to an eagle 'imprint' on a shoulder pad).
- Reasonably accurate collar (compared to the full-on biker's collar in Dredd).
- Fairly accurate stylised left-hand shoulder piece (compared to the 1970s-style one in Dredd).
- Badge placed near the armpit (as opposed to Dredd's chest badge, albeit within the chain).
- Lycra (versus leather).
- No elbow pads and bling gauntlets (instead of the accurate ones in Dredd).
- Judge Codpiece (instead of something 99.9% less hideous in Dredd).
- Wee black kneepads and bling boots (versus accurate ones, again).

Plus, as has been said here elsewhere, the Stallone uniform looks like some warped dress uniform for a parade, versus something you could actually use to combat crime.

Well said Indigo, puts the failings of the Stallone debacle into words better than I ever could've put it :thumbsup:, a large drink for that man...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SKD on 20 August, 2011, 09:40:02 PM
 I like the Urban Dredd version. It's a good, practical (real world?) representation/translation of the comic uniform. The Stallone one looks like he's joined the Village People. Anybody else think that the picture of Stallone looks as though he's about to do the Time Warps 'Pelvic Thrust'? :o

Stew.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 20 August, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
I may be (definitely, probably) in the minority here but...(no, I don't like the Stallone uniform) Karl Urban's frown/grimace looks incredibly silly. I mean, that's just a silly picture. I have no real qualms about the uniform, I just hope Urban's Dredd doesn't look so forced and silly the whole movie through.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 21 August, 2011, 04:07:35 AM
Gasp (!), a dissenting voice, ev'ryone get 'im!!!  I certainly wouldn't say the Empire cover pic of Dredd is "silly"- he actually looks like he means business and could give you a hiding just for looking at him funny, whilst Stallone's Dredd looks like he's about to do an all-singing, all-dancing rendition of 'YMCA'...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Toni Scandella on 21 August, 2011, 09:14:06 AM
No, no - the grimace looks silly.  It looks silly when done by anyone playing Dredd dress up, and it looks silly when Urban does it.  Dredd should look impassive, emotionless and professional. 

Stuff that's a styalistic decision in drawings does not alway translate well - and that grimace has people looking at that cover and deciding Dredd looks the silliest character on that cover - behind a man dressed as a bat and a man dressed as a blue and red spider.

But Urban won't be gurning through the whole movie, I'm assuming, so I can live with it :)  Everything else looks finne.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SKD on 21 August, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
 As the cover picture looks as if it is a publicity shot and not a still from the film, i'm guessing the photographer asked Mr Urban to 'Pull a Dredd face'. In most of the other pictures we've seen, his features are not as exaggerated. The large image used on pages 96-97 looks great, it reminds me of Ian Gibson's Dredd from the Oxygen Desert story. :geek: :)

Stew.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Mark Taylor on 21 August, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
The Stallone version looks like somebody took the rather impractical comic book uniform and tried to make it practical to wear - for an actor in a movie.

The Urban version looks like somebody took the rather impractical comic book uniform and tried to make it practical to wear and use - for a street cop in a violent urban environment.

...Guess which I prefer.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 August, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
The helmet in the Stallone Dredd film was one of the few things right about the costume-but it could of been far worse-as owners of the making of Judge Dredd books can testify. Some of the Versace design concepts were frankly embarrasing-Stallone deserves at least some credit for allegedly bringing the design back closer to the look of the comic.
Not that the finished film benefitted anything from this intervention.

Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Dash Decent on 21 August, 2011, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 21 August, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
for a street cop in a violent Urban environment.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 21 August, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
(In hopes of not being mistaken for he-who-shall-not-be-named) I've seen no still of Uban where I've said - 'Wow, hat looks like Dredd'. To me, he just doesn't seem to have demeanor of Dredd, and he certainly doesn't 'look' like Dredd, his features not being hard enough (or chin-y enough).

That said, these are just stills and his performance may cancel out my reservations.

Also, I suppose as long as the script and performances are good I can overlook any inconsistencies I feel Urban's Dredd might have.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
I can't fully ascertain Urban's demeanor/behaviour from photographs -though kicking a door in is about as good as photos get and that one photo contains more Dredd action than the entire '95 film- but Urban's Dredd looks infinitely more Dreddian than Stallone's rather stiff/posed/presence lacking and strangely arrogant performance.

Stallone.Really.Didn't.Get.It.

Urban has so far done nothing to make me dislike him whereas the mere mention of Stallone's name being mentioned with Dredd set off alarm bells in my 80's mind.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 21 August, 2011, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2011, 01:01:03 PM

Stallone.Really.Didn't.Get.It.


Agreed. And in no way am I comparing the two. I actually like Karl Urban as an actor (well, in the parts he usually plays). And again, I am willing to overlook the fact that he doesn't look like Dredd (imo) if his acting is spot on and the script is a good one.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SKD on 21 August, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
I can't fully ascertain Urban's demeanor/behaviour from photographs -though kicking a door in is about as good as photos get and that one photo contains more Dredd action than the entire '95 film.

I couldn't agree more, that picture shouts DREDD! If this had been the Stallone movie he would have been standing there, no helmet, in a vest, carrying the largest gun possible. Thrusting his golden cod piece for the full 3D effect. :o
The image on the previous page with the judge (Dredd?) running look spot on too, the proportions of the uniform/helmet/pads look good. It's not the comic version we all know and love (I don't think it ever will be) but it's a bloody good try at making, as Mark said earlier, the impractical look practical.

Stew. 
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 21 August, 2011, 05:10:14 PM
I didn't 'get' the new uniform when I first saw it. However, when I remembered it is actually very reminiscent of his first appearance in the comic I realised it was actually a pretty good solution to the problem of lack of  functionality. Now I think in a way it's more faithful to the source than the current comic version is (with the added benefit of making a clear distinction between the two movies).
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Misanthrope on 21 August, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 21 August, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
The helmet in the Stallone Dredd film was one of the few things right about the costume-but it could of been far worse-as owners of the making of Judge Dredd books can testify. Some of the Versace design concepts were frankly embarrasing-Stallone deserves at least some credit for allegedly bringing the design back closer to the look of the comic.
Not that the finished film benefitted anything from this intervention.

(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 August, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 21 August, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 21 August, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
The helmet in the Stallone Dredd film was one of the few things right about the costume-but it could of been far worse-as owners of the making of Judge Dredd books can testify. Some of the Versace design concepts were frankly embarrasing-Stallone deserves at least some credit for allegedly bringing the design back closer to the look of the comic.
Not that the finished film benefitted anything from this intervention.

(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)


Yep, that's the one!

Who thought Dredd was a member of Frankie Goes To Hollywood!? :o
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 August, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
That's my costume sorted for the next con, right there! Seriously, I could wear that quite happily.

SBT
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 August, 2011, 07:27:20 PM
I'm sure you'll be the hit of the con.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: SKD on 21 August, 2011, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 21 August, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
That's my costume sorted for the next con, right there! Seriously, I could wear that quite happily.

SBT

I look forward to seeing your costume at the Birmingham Comicon next saturday then SBT. You'll steal the show.  :D

Stew.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 22 August, 2011, 12:44:21 AM
I'm just a little shocked the like of Versace doesn't employ a better artist to produce their design sketches so they don't look like a rejection from Tony Hart's Gallery.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 22 August, 2011, 12:54:46 AM
but it's fashion dear.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Hoagy on 22 August, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Shocked and traumatised by the Versace design. Its very essence is revolting to me. I gag at it.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Goaty on 22 August, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
Stallone Dredd does looks like Gimp! lol...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 August, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 21 August, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
That's my costume sorted for the next con, right there! 

That's con as in convict, I'm guessing.  In the showers.

Watched the Stallone Dredd again last weekend for the laugh.  As it started, I kind of thought it wasn't as bad as it had been made out to be.  Then it rapidly became very bad indeed.

Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 22 August, 2011, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 22 August, 2011, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 21 August, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
That's my costume sorted for the next con, right there! 

That's con as in convict, I'm guessing.  It'll be a hit in the showers alright.

Watched the Stallone Dredd again last weekend for the laugh.  As it started, I kind of thought it wasn't as bad as it had been made out to be.  Then it rapidly became very bad indeed.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Mark Taylor on 22 August, 2011, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 22 August, 2011, 01:44:53 PMWatched the Stallone Dredd again last weekend for the laugh.  As it started, I kind of thought it wasn't as bad as it had been made out to be.  Then it rapidly became very bad indeed.

I have a theory that it would get even worse with repeat viewings, but I'm not masochistic enough to actually put it to the test.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Steve Green on 22 August, 2011, 04:22:50 PM
I'd love to know how much money Versace got paid for his 'contribution'
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: MattJW on 22 August, 2011, 11:30:13 PM
How did he even get the job?!! From the catwalk to Mega-City One....!!  :o
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Toni Scandella on 23 August, 2011, 07:08:18 AM
Wasn't there a story about 4 years ago where a designer came up with a new uniform?

It was programmed with the designers personality and was able to act independently of its wearer, and went haywire when it saw citizens in last seasons styles...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Spaceghost on 23 August, 2011, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: Toni Scandella on 23 August, 2011, 07:08:18 AM
Wasn't there a story about 4 years ago where a designer came up with a new uniform?

It was programmed with the designers personality and was able to act independently of its wearer, and went haywire when it saw citizens in last seasons styles...

Yeah, the new uniform was designed by Brendan McCarthy as I recall.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Radbacker on 23 August, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
QuoteHow did he even get the job?!! From the catwalk to Mega-City One....!! 
Well he did the design for a couple of other future Sci-Fi movies (I think The Fifth Element?) so they thought he would be a natural for it, boy where they wrong.  What is with the spikey Cod piece and gloves looks like something Rob Halford would wear!

CU Radabcker
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: TordelBack on 23 August, 2011, 08:59:04 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 23 August, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
What is with the spikey Cod piece and gloves looks like something Rob Halford would wear!

On the plus side, the shoulders aren't rounded.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Goaty on 23 August, 2011, 09:09:52 AM
Quote from: Radbacker on 23 August, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Well he did the design for a couple of other future Sci-Fi movies (I think The Fifth Element?) so they thought he would be a natural for it, boy where they wrong.  What is with the spikey Cod piece and gloves looks like something Rob Halford would wear!

CU Radabcker

The Fifth Element's costume design was created by French fashion designer Jean-Paul Gaultier, who produced 954 costumes (Amazing is that?? lol)

Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 August, 2011, 01:03:23 PM
I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvrDmxNwBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvrDmxNwBM)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
Nothing wrong with rounded shoulder-pads.


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/p31Dredd.jpg)



(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/p29Dredd.jpg)


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/newdredd_2.jpg)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Dash Decent on 23 August, 2011, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 23 August, 2011, 01:03:23 PM
I'd rather see Dave Lee Travis play Macbeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvrDmxNwBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyvrDmxNwBM)

I'd rather see Sid James in Macbeth.
http://www.lovingtheclassics.com/Joe-MacBeth-1955-DVD/prod_1344.html
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 23 August, 2011, 01:46:44 PM
Is now an appropriate moment for this?

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r153/brnwlsh/judge-dredd-empire1.jpg)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Herpes- the kissing disease.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: TordelBack on 23 August, 2011, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
Nothing wrong with rounded shoulder-pads.

Don't get me wrong, I lahve 'em all pertly rounded, just so.  I was merely invoking the spirit of one who is (hopefully) no longer with us.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 23 August, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 23 August, 2011, 01:50:56 PMDon't get me wrong

I wasn't, just thought 'twas time for another reminder how better off we are than in '95. Recession, ptooh.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: vzzbux on 28 August, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
That Gibson Dredd is pretty close to the new film design.




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Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Angry Vince on 28 August, 2011, 11:48:36 PM
Hey, you turned his frown upside down!

And now Dredd is really scary. Like a clown with too much make up. And a strap-on.

Oh wait, that was the Stallone version..
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 28 August, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
I've been searching for The Bank Raid episode in the progs. Is there anywhere online I can find the scans? It'll be interesting to see how close it is to the movie intro when its done.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 August, 2011, 02:35:12 AM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 28 August, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
I've been searching for The Bank Raid episode in the progs. Is there anywhere online I can find the scans? It'll be interesting to see how close it is to the movie intro when its done.

It's only 'close' in the sense of the uniform and tone of it, nothing storywise.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 29 August, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 28 August, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
I've been searching for The Bank Raid episode in the progs.

A quick search on Barney leads me to think it's in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981 - I have this and would be happy to snap some iPhone photos of the pages for you (I can't scan it at the moment).

I actually have this courtesy of a friend at a car boot sale. For £40 he picked up:

Judge Dredd Annuals 1979 - 1983
2000AD Annuals 1979 - 1983
Progs 1-500 (missing about 100)
Tornados (ALL, including Annuals)
Starlord (ALL I think, including Annuals)
SPEED (had never heard of it, but I think it's where Death Wish first appeared - I remember that from my brother's comics, Roy of the Rovers perhaps).

Plus... Various Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comics and some pre 1970 MAD Magazines!

Quite the bargain!

note: 2 attempts before successful CAPTCHA recognition!
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 29 August, 2011, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: glennbroadway on 29 August, 2011, 06:27:40 PMA quick search on Barney leads me to think it's in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981

It's also reprinted in the fourth Dredd collection from Titan, which also claimed the Annual version was censored IIRC.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: PsychoGoatee on 29 August, 2011, 09:39:51 PM
I like my Dredd costumes like I like my women: with really big shoulder pads.

(I do prefer the new costume overall though, especially the helmet.)
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 August, 2011, 12:53:31 AM
Quote from: glennbroadway on 29 August, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 28 August, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
I've been searching for The Bank Raid episode in the progs.

A quick search on Barney leads me to think it's in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981 - I have this and would be happy to snap some iPhone photos of the pages for you (I can't scan it at the moment).


If its not too much trouble
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 30 August, 2011, 03:52:13 AM
Yeah, post it on the forum here if possible, I have yet to read it and would love to myself- considering Jock has stated the new movie reminded him greatly of Bank Raid when he saw some footage of it...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 30 August, 2011, 07:46:25 AM
Am I allowed to post photos/scans of 2000ad stories on the forum?
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 30 August, 2011, 01:46:36 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-01.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-01.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-02.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-02.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-03.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-03.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-04.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-04.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-05.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21829/BankRaid/BankRaid-05.jpg)

Well, here's the five pages from the only story I could find that mentioned Bank Raid (in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981). Let me know if it's the wrong one, or if I need to take it down. These are dodgy iPhone camera snaps and not nice quality scans I'm afraid!

Glenn.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 August, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
Not sure it's a great idea putting up an entire story, usually only samples are allowed. The mods will advise I'm sure.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: James Stacey on 30 August, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
I'm guessing the story is old and well known enough and the photos are of a suitable non printable quality to guess we might be ok on this one.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Spaceghost on 30 August, 2011, 02:09:00 PM
The Urban uniform has definitely got a 'Bank Raid' vibe to it. Not just the uniform, Dredd's attitude seems closest to this version too, particularly the road side execution [spoiler]which is mirrored in a scene from the new film[/spoiler].

This story is also in the back of Case Files vol 1 if that's easier to check out.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 August, 2011, 02:13:05 PM
The Bank Raid story -with missing speech/text included- is one of the supplements in JD Case Files Vol 1.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Spaceghost on 30 August, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 August, 2011, 02:13:05 PM
The Bank Raid story -with missing speech/text included- is one of the supplements in JD Case Files Vol 1.

Is there an echo in here?
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 30 August, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
Okay, I'll remove the pages apart from one. I did ask in advance!
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Glenn Broadway on 30 August, 2011, 04:03:32 PM
Okay, I've left pages 3 and 4 up. Please let me know if they need to be removed! I only posted them as earlier today I read a thread which included plenty of artwork scans from early 2000ADs.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 August, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
Thanks man, those two pages are enough to get the gist. Never read that one I think I'll have to seek out that case file.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: CYCLOPZ on 30 August, 2011, 09:42:34 PM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/13/swipe-file-judge-dredd-and-real-life/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/13/swipe-file-judge-dredd-and-real-life/)

Pretty close to what we've seen in the stills so far.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 31 August, 2011, 04:12:41 AM
Wow, that is pretty cool, cheers Glenn :thumbsup:...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Rex The Runt on 06 September, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
Since we're discussing Dredds uniform, I thought I should post this pic of one of Gianni Versace's early designs.

Thank grud they moved on from this.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2011, 10:59:33 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 21 August, 2011, 05:23:09 PM(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)


It was posted earlier in this thread, it's still atrocious, 'nuff said.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 08 September, 2011, 06:20:11 PM
He can't draw for shite either
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2011, 06:36:21 PM
'Limp-wristed'.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Hoagy on 08 September, 2011, 07:02:50 PM
Philistines! We could have changed the world of fashion through the completely new and untapped medium of comics. Darlinks.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: Steve Green on 08 September, 2011, 07:54:14 PM
Have a word with Planet Replicas...
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2011, 07:54:52 PM
They're good with cod-pieces.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: vzzbux on 08 September, 2011, 08:09:54 PM
Pah. The cod piece should have looked like this, Probably made the film better.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2346/2366569437_b86e613cff.jpg)


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Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: EddieHitler on 08 September, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Actually I think if you put the 95 helmet onto the new representation of the Dredd uniform it just might work and look better.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2011, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: charleswalter1860 on 08 September, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Actually I think if you put the 95 helmet onto the new representation of the Dredd uniform it just might work and look better.

(http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/f/family_fortunes/bygraves_duhduhh.jpg)

Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: EddieHitler on 08 September, 2011, 08:37:24 PM
Lol fare enough I'm off back to the football messaging boards where my opinion is still valued...huff....  :'(
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2011, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 08 September, 2011, 08:09:54 PM
Pah. The cod piece should have looked like this, Probably made the film better.


If he'd bothered to keep it on.
Title: Re: I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform to the new one
Post by: malkymac on 08 September, 2011, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2011, 10:59:33 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope on 21 August, 2011, 05:23:09 PM(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y347/rattyangel/versacedredd.jpg)


It was posted earlier in this thread, it's still atrocious, 'nuff said.

Is that seriously meant to be the work of a 'professional'? when my daughter was 13 she had a notion that she wanted to do costume design for the theatre and produced better work than that.

Deary deary me!