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General Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Oddboy on 12 December, 2002, 07:24:08 PM

Title: A question to scriptdroids & other budding writers
Post by: Oddboy on 12 December, 2002, 07:24:08 PM
How do you come up with the heros name?

I'm working on a story (which I'm not going to tell y'all about yet - unless you get me drunk & probe me at Shedcon) & I've got the basic plot more or less sorted but no name for the lead (or in deed any) characters.
Should I use the flip through a phone book method or does anyone have any better solutions?

Oddboy.
Title: Re: A question to scriptdroids & o...
Post by: Trout on 12 December, 2002, 07:25:25 PM
Probe you?

I don't think so.

- Trout
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Post by: WoD on 12 December, 2002, 07:49:25 PM
Whay not use names from the notice board.

Mark has quite an heroic quality.
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Post by: damnandblast on 12 December, 2002, 07:58:54 PM
"How do you come up with the heros name?"

That's the best bit about writing a script! I've found a number of methods work for me; take a name, swap the firstname and surname and play with the result (not as daft as it sounds). Another rich source are foreign place names (I have a favourite country for this). And if you're doing something humorous the theme can help - my first small-press script was about MegaCity weather control and all the names had meteorological connections. One that's coming up is set at sea and all the names have nautical references.

Nigel
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Post by: Jared Katooie on 12 December, 2002, 08:33:09 PM
Just pick two names from anyhere and swap the first names around! It's great. Avoid John's, Jack's and Smith's too and you'll be fine...

And Katooie is mine y'hear?


JK
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Post by: Oddboy on 12 December, 2002, 09:23:12 PM
Hmmm....

Gary Wyatt: "Arthur Wilkinson, we meet at last!"


Nah, needs more work...
Ta for the suggestions y'all.

Oddboy (quite relieved that the fish won't probe him)
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Post by: Quirkafleeg on 12 December, 2002, 10:32:47 PM
Names, I always have trouble with names?

The name scrambling one works quite well... I've also picked names from the writers of any books near to me... Try to avoid the desperate 'first thing you see though' Mr Mouse, Mr watch, Mr Pen...

And try to avoid Wendy House and similar unintentional hilarities.

The mighty random keystrokes method brought us the Daleks!

You can go for the Martin Amis approach and call someone by an aspect of their character (Keith Talent)... though, if say, you are writing a Dredd based screen play and you have a bent Judge, don't call him Judge Evil or Judge Bastard or similar as it might just give the game away?
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Post by: Art on 12 December, 2002, 10:42:01 PM
There was a nasty Judge Hitler a while back...
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Post by: damnandblast on 12 December, 2002, 10:43:25 PM
"...Mr Mouse, Mr watch, Mr Pen... "

Surely Mr Full-Ashtray, Mr Work-Avoidance-Toy, Mr Kidney-Dialysis-Machine etc.

These are *writers* we're talking about here, no?

Nigel
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Post by: Tiplodocus on 12 December, 2002, 11:15:51 PM
I send off to a mail order company in Conneticut who provide names for all occasions.

I like to give the names some relevance to the story (if you can get away with it not sounding stupid).

So in a time travel story I had the hero called Planck and everyone else named after a period of time. In another time story I had a Julie-Ann Day.  A story about the process of writing (and rejection)  had everyone named after fonts.

And just wait until you read the story with characters named J'hiz and Kl'midia.

You can take short cuts with characterisation, I guess, by calling people things like Steele and Keane.

I'm dying to use my mate Johnny Mullis' name just because I think it sounds cool.

Actually, if I spent more time on the story than I did on getting cool names, maybe I'd have got something published by now...
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Post by: Richard McTighe on 13 December, 2002, 12:16:09 AM
I often give names to characters based on their nature, the situation they're in, or their point in being in the story.

For instance, in a Future Shock I wrote there was a character who existed solely to be killed off; he was called P.D. Vice - the 'P' standing for Plot.  Arf!
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Post by: Leigh S on 13 December, 2002, 12:39:11 AM
You certainly shouldnt consider naming a thuggish Judge "Goon", for example.

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Post by: Matt Timson on 16 December, 2002, 05:20:09 PM
"You certainly shouldnt consider naming a thuggish Judge "Goon", for example."

Now that's funny...

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Post by: Tommo on 16 December, 2002, 06:43:46 PM
Try foreign words for an aspect of the character's personality or role. Well, it's an easy way out.
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Post by: Tu-plang on 16 December, 2002, 07:21:58 PM
Never use Johnny or Jack or Joe.  All are done to death and smack of 'action hero'.

I try to go for more common names, but when I put pen to paper and come out with something like 'Graham' or 'Tim' I know I've gone too far and it's as boring as bat shit.
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Post by: Tommo on 16 December, 2002, 07:24:40 PM
Graham Alpha? Tim Dredd? Bit of a ring to them.
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Post by: Oddboy on 16 December, 2002, 07:27:54 PM
I was considering 'Harris Stevens' this morning, but that might be just too Iron Maiden.  Plus his friend would then have to be called Dick Davidson which would just be bad.
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Post by: Tommo on 16 December, 2002, 07:29:26 PM
Having once accidentally concocted a "Bob Brick" I envy you.
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Post by: Oddboy on 16 December, 2002, 08:21:50 PM
Talking of Iron Maiden - my MD's just told me that she has contacts & can get me free tickets & backstage passes next time they're touring in the UK.  Kewl.
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Post by: Tu-plang on 16 December, 2002, 08:26:54 PM
But wouldn't that be great if Dredd was a Tim.  It doesn't exactly shout 'TOUGH BASTARD' at you does it?
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Post by: Oddboy on 16 December, 2002, 08:36:42 PM
Okay - I'm going for Tim Harris*
He's not going to be a double-hard bastard, more of a weedy but quite plucky & brave type young adult.




*I of obviously retain the right to change name this at anytime as soon as I think of something better / get bored of it.
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Post by: DavidXBrunt on 16 December, 2002, 08:50:33 PM
Name as many characters as possible after real people and they'll all want to own a copy of the story. Guaranteed to increase sales.
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Post by: Oddboy on 16 December, 2002, 09:14:36 PM
Good idea if your a shameless hack (Hi Gordon!) but seeing as my story is unlikely to ever actually get finished writing (let alone drawn) (let alone *published*) I don't really need to worry about that!
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Post by: Tu-plang on 16 December, 2002, 09:21:00 PM
Tim Harris.. nice  -the Harris bit sort of cancels out the boringness of the Tim you see, and... oh sod it.
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Post by: Queen Firey-Bou on 16 December, 2002, 09:53:10 PM
But can you get sued for useing the names of non-scrot ex boyf's as the foul stinking crap bad guys? my heroines name will be Lemonny Vindicivous.
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Post by: Oddboy on 16 December, 2002, 11:44:25 PM
Better ask El S about that one...


;)
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Post by: Devons Daddy on 17 December, 2002, 03:06:44 PM
can you get sued for useing the names of non-scrot ex boyf's

they would highy likely not realise, you see X/GF tend to all sort of blur into one another.we dont have very short term memory spans.as such your safe i would say.
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Post by: Oddboy on 17 December, 2002, 03:37:53 PM
And if they're nonscrots how would they ever know?