Just spotted that there's a nice little article on Tooth's 35th birthday on the Guardian Website today (not sure if it's in the print edition)
Find it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/24/2000ad-35-future-comic
That's a nice article which just about manages to celebrate the fact that the comic is still going and is better than ever.
Lots of lapsed readers in the comments, fondly remembering the prog. Let's hope they pick up the prog again and find their way here.
I picked up the Guardian (when I was buying Comics International) but I couldn't lower myself to actually checking if the article was inside :sick:
I'm sure somebody will check if it's in the print version.
It isn't in the main section (hang on, have I just outed myself as Guardian reader?) but they often put articles on the website a day before going in the paper so there's a chance it will be in tomorrow. I very much doubt it though.
Oh, and "and the website has a busy forum with more than 66,000 members." Really?
Quote from: Colin Zeal on 24 February, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
It isn't in the main section (hang on, have I just outed myself as Guardian reader?) but they often put articles on the website a day before going in the paper so there's a chance it will be in tomorrow. I very much doubt it though.
Oh, and "and the website has a busy forum with more than 66,000 members." Really?
648598 Posts in 33444 Topics by 66502 Members according to the bottom of the page. Of course only 50,000 of us are active posters.
Fair enough. It's a good article, but I also raised an eyebrow at this comment. " It could be argued that without 2000AD, the world today might not have the later works of Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, Mark Millar, Bryan Talbot or Grant Morrison. Not to mention the characters such as Dredd, Strontium Dog, Nemesis the Warlock and the ABC Warriors." Most of it is true, but can the prog really take credit for Neil Gaiman? He didn't do too much work on it did he?
He got his first pro-gigs here so... I'd say yes. You could argue that any of those on the list were so fiercely talented they'd have made it somehow. In fact he is the clearest cut case - all the others in the list had already has some success before joining the prog - Bryan Talbot had already done Luther Arkwright which proved very influential and Alan Moore had a successful run at Marvel UK which had raised his profile enough to get into Warrior and 2000 AD. Of course, with Moore, Millar, and Morrison it was 2000AD that helped build their profile and speed up the British Invasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion_(comics)). So yes Gaiman is worth sticking on the list, I think it is Warren Ellis that wouldn't be eligible as he really was just passing through ;)
Quote from: James Stacey on 24 February, 2012, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: Colin Zeal on 24 February, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
It isn't in the main section (hang on, have I just outed myself as Guardian reader?) but they often put articles on the website a day before going in the paper so there's a chance it will be in tomorrow. I very much doubt it though.
Oh, and "and the website has a busy forum with more than 66,000 members." Really?
648598 Posts in 33444 Topics by 66502 Members according to the bottom of the page. Of course only 50,000 of us are active posters.
LOL, I never thought I'd see that statistic used by the press. The bulk of them are stealth spammers, you can get a fee for them if you look at the member list back to where I've largely cleared them out and it transitions from ordinary users into stealth spammers, where it jumps from a couple of users signing up a day to 50+:
http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;desc;start=300
Still, anything that helps raise the profile :)
It's really cool 2000ad is getting all these little mentions in the media at the moment. Between this, the Simon Pegg thing, and the thing on the One Show tonight, it's got to do SOME good?
It never ceases to amaze me how there are all these people who think 2000ad is just something from their childhood that is no longer with us. Don't these people browse the comics section of the newsagents on a daily basis....... What else would you go into a newsagents for??
Quote from: Colin Zeal on 24 February, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
It isn't in the main section (hang on, have I just outed myself as Guardian reader?) but they often put articles on the website a day before going in the paper so there's a chance it will be in tomorrow. I very much doubt it though.
It could be. The G2 today is the one with the separate film and music section folded into it, so there isn't much room for anything else. Then again it might not fit in the Saturday edition and Monday would be too late for it. It'd be nice to get a quick mention though.
The above also outs me as a Guardian reader (although I prefer bare feet and Weetabix to sandals and muesli) but I suspect there is a lot of crossover given the politics of the writers over the years. There are certainly a lot of fans posting over there and quite a few who have appeared in the letters pages, a lot getting a picture reprinted. Which makes it a bigger pity they don't do more on it. Hopefully, the strong response to this piece might make them think again.
It's good exposure I've had a couple of my non-comic friends mention it to me on Facebook so it's reaching out to the 'siders. Neat to see the forum mentioned (however overexaggeratedly)
Quote from: Emperor on 24 February, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Quote from: Colin Zeal on 24 February, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
It isn't in the main section (hang on, have I just outed myself as Guardian reader?) but they often put articles on the website a day before going in the paper so there's a chance it will be in tomorrow. I very much doubt it though.
It could be. The G2 today is the one with the separate film and music section folded into it, so there isn't much room for anything else. Then again it might not fit in the Saturday edition and Monday would be too late for it. It'd be nice to get a quick mention though.
However, I notice it is posted in the books section (as opposed to the book blog area), which might suggest it'll be in the Review section tomorrow.
Oh and be sure to retweet this and share it on Facebook - it'd be nice for them to realise they get a lot of attention for covering 2000AD, so they might think about doing more.
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 24 February, 2012, 03:29:22 PM
It's good exposure I've had a couple of my non-comic friends mention it to me on Facebook so it's reaching out to the 'siders. Neat to see the forum mentioned (however overexaggeratedly)
To be fair, 50,000 of the members are scojo's aliases.
Tharg's Mighty Organ got a good mention in the Grauniad today via the flux of an interview with author David 'Cloud Atlas' Mitchell (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/30/david-mitchell-interview-bone-clocks-midlife-crisis-novel):
Actually isn't it strange, he observes, that our culture describes itself as addicted to instant gratification? "If you were writing one of those books where every chapter is named after a different song from a different decade ... then this decade would be "Skip to the Good Part". [A 2011 pop hit by He Is We.] We're supposedly in this "Skip to the Good Part" age!" And yet, he points out, people read very long novels (whether by him or, say, George RR Martin), and they watch TV shows such as True Detective, Mad Men ("where four episodes later you say, 'Ah, that made sense'") or even Sherlock: "Despite all the hurly-burly – the fast cutting and so on – it also trusts the audience enough to do slow reveal." Slow reveal, it turns out, is one of Mitchell's favourite things. They do it, too, in serial comics, and we discuss the British comic 2000 AD, home of Judge Dredd and other deathless characters. "Mega‑City One is so huge, so dense, so consistent!" Mitchell enthuses. "That taught me a lot of things about storytelling."
Toothy's influence on the culture is almost insidious!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 August, 2014, 01:47:13 PMTharg's Mighty Organ got a good mention in the Grauniad today via the flux of an interview with author David 'Cloud Atlas' Mitchell (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/30/david-mitchell-interview-bone-clocks-midlife-crisis-novel)
No surprise there. Mitchell's
Black Swan Green contains a poorly researched reference to the Sci Fi Specials of yore. Would it have killed him to look up the right price on Barney?!
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 August, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Toothy's influence on the culture is almost insidious!
Only "almost"? Sack Molcher, damn him.