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It out in next month; here the new trailer, featured Dalaks! Cyborg gunfighter! Weeping Angels! Dinosaurs in spaceships! (eh? so they read 2000AD Shakara?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrEUBl2pacU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrEUBl2pacU)

New poster!

That image is too busy...

I like the patched up Dalek and the hardened howitzer Dalek, but yeah, too busy by far.

Yeah but the trailer on BBC earlier was pretty damned cool.

The dinos on the spaceship were cool but not as great as a robot battling a giant dinosaur on Mars.

Daleks? Where do they get their ideas?

Watched the trailer.
Realise this puts me in the BAD NERD category but I loved it, have no complaints and cant wait to see it

I am of course in total denial about this being Ms Ponds last series

Is the only thing they can think of to do with the daleks is cgi more and more of them in every time? Old Who did cool dalek stories with 3 or 4 daleks tops, Tennant era had hundreds flying through the sky, now we have an amphithetarter with gajillions of 'em.

I do want to see the old cool daleks back again.

Damn, I thought crap actress was dead :'(

I hope they don't lessen the Weeping Angels threat and horror in the same way they've ruined the Daleks, with overkill

Quote from: bluemeanie on 02 August, 2012, 11:26:03 PM
Watched the trailer.
Realise this puts me in the BAD NERD category but I loved it, have no complaints and cant wait to see it

Oh are we not meant to like it??? Has it been getting a bad press, weird...

for me I'd like Moffat to step down now - the genius he showed in the one off episodes he wrote in the Russel T. Davies era and that he continues to show writing on Sherlock is just not there in his Doctor Who writing - his stuff he's done whilst he's been in charge of DW has been below par imo. Doctor Who has centred far far far too much around 'the Ponds' rather than exploring the whole Who universe which has so many narrative possibilities that are just not explored by Moffat. Plus is it just me or has Moffat sort of pseudo-nicked a few ideas from Fringe? Hhhmmm maybe I'm being too tenuous in that critique.

The trailer looked impressive, but narratively I was like 'oh he killed the daleks.....again' lol 

Was it me or did anyone else spot [spoiler]David Tennant at the end of the trailer?[/spoiler]

Agree about the over use of cgi'ed daleks, and how many times has he finished them off and no doubt will do again?

The Pond/River soap opera seems set to continue yawwwwn

Perferred it when he was confined to earth with UNIT 'Jenkins, Chap with wings there five rounds rapid fire' sort of stuff, but that's just me, couldn't see fans or this century's viewers going for that

Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 03 August, 2012, 06:17:45 AM

Quote from: bluemeanie on 02 August, 2012, 11:26:03 PM
Watched the trailer.
Realise this puts me in the BAD NERD category but I loved it, have no complaints and cant wait to see it

Oh are we not meant to like it??? Has it been getting a bad press, weird...

The Who-bashing does seem more prominent of late than it did before, which is odd given the show these days merely overtly assumes its audience is capable of paying attention to ongoing plots rather than just infodumping in the final episode in an unsatisfying pose-off where the Doctor basically goes "I am the Doctor so none of this has to make sense" five years in a row.
A cynical man would suggest that a certain section of the viewership was frightened by this incredible demand on their attention span and resents being back in school expected to learn stuff, but far more likely is that the departure of RTD has been pounced upon by certain commentators as probably being a massive tonal and/or quality shift in the show.

Personally (and speaking as someone who was quite vocal in his criticism of the RTD era), I've found it to be more of the same, but with less plot holes and more self-aware characters.  I've been enjoying it a lot, but that's usually a bad sign.
This season looks like camp nonsense of the highest caliber and I look forward to it.

I'm with the Bear. It looks like a lot of fun to me.

Quote from: Bolt-01 on 07 August, 2012, 02:55:16 PM
I'm with the Bear. It looks like a lot of fun to me.

Oh hell yes.

I'm really looking forward to this. When it first returned, it was largely something I just watched out of habit; we had few great episodes, a lot of bad filler and the big "Rose/Dr" love story which just went on and on. I'm of the opinion that the right man is in control now (at long last) and it is much more intelligent than it had been on its return. My one problem is what would have been decent episodes during the Davis era (shudder) now seem pretty bad due to the increased quality of writing. Still, at least we no longer have a producer who was of the opinion people would just love Catherine Tate in the role of the companion and terrible sex gags.

Looks great, with a few obligatory minor reservations. Really looking forward to it. Thankfully Brendan1 should be along any second now to tell us how wrong we are and explain that the series will be terrible.

And that we're arseholes with terrible taste.

I didn't like at least ten episodes of the last series.  It seemed so flat, and there was no emotional involvement with any guest character or situation.  Reminded me of the Graham Williams era of old Who - every so often, you'd get a brilliant standout like City of Death, but the rest of season 17 was dull, dull, dull.  Same with this last one, you had The Doctor's Wife and... I don't even remember episode titles, much less character names.  It was just dull, and tried to force emotions where they were absent and uninvolved.

You had Nimon in both season 17 and series 6, too.  Obviously not a good thing.

Fingers crossed for the next series, but if Moffat were to leave the show in somebody else's hands and go do more than just three Sherlocks a year, I wouldn't complain.

I should make it clear I would love Dr Who to go on for another 50 years! I love the show, loved the 1st doctor, 2nd doctor, 3rd doctor, tom baker of course, and some of the 8th doctor episodes. Loved Eccleston's 9th doctor most out of all the modern doctors. Tennant was a great actor and filled the role well but Russell T. Davies was shoddy at the end. And Matt Smith is a great doctor and could be better imo but I'm not a big fan of Moffat's writing for WHO thus far. Mind you it could be a hell of a lot worse.

I always thought Tennant started great but he just hit a point in which it seemed he didn't care/particularly want to be there and he never got out from it. With Davies it was strange seeing as he helped bring the show back and then he just kept dragging it down as it progressed. I tend to see the Davies/Tennant run on BBC3 every once in a while and the majority of the episodes have me wondering how I ever managed to sit through an entire series (to be honest I was probably thinking "Surely we're due another Moffat episode anytime now..." and hoping the writers behind the two-parter that saw The Dr become human just before WW1 would get another writing job. Instead we had the run up to the disastrous Christmas/ New Year Tennant leaves special featuring 'The Silver Cloak' and one silly scene after another).

Quote from: Charlie boy on 08 August, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
featuring 'The Silver Cloak'

I had to google that as I'd blanked it from my mind - it was annoying wasn't it?

Quote from: judgeblake on 07 August, 2012, 10:38:39 PM
I should make it clear I would love Dr Who to go on for another 50 years! I love the show, loved the 1st doctor, 2nd doctor, 3rd doctor, tom baker of course, and some of the 8th doctor episodes. Loved Eccleston's 9th doctor most out of all the modern doctors. Tennant was a great actor and filled the role well but Russell T. Davies was shoddy at the end. And Matt Smith is a great doctor and could be better imo but I'm not a big fan of Moffat's writing for WHO thus far. Mind you it could be a hell of a lot worse.

I'm with Judge Blake Block

I had to google that as I'd blanked it from my mind - it was annoying wasn't it?
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I remember they all wanted a picture taken with The Dr and an old guy grabs Tennant's arse and says "Me next!". That had followed a shot of the TARDIS on a church's stained-glass windows and talk of the legendary "Sacred Physician" and The Master hissing "Out there, they're celebrating human Christmas!" at one point. The finale had The Dr falling a great height from a spaceship racing across Britain (Baker fell from a pylon and snuffed it!) before getting radiation poisoning and spending what felt like forever saying his goodbyes (to which I sat there thinking "Just hurry up and regenerate!"). I thought Davies and Tennant and the other producers making their exit would have aimed for a big bang, but no...

Quote from: Charlie boy on 08 August, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
I always thought Tennant started great but he just hit a point in which it seemed he didn't care/particularly want to be there and he never got out from it. With Davies it was strange seeing as he helped bring the show back and then he just kept dragging it down as it progressed. I tend to see the Davies/Tennant run on BBC3 every once in a while and the majority of the episodes have me wondering how I ever managed to sit through an entire series (to be honest I was probably thinking "Surely we're due another Moffat episode anytime now..." and hoping the writers behind the two-parter that saw The Dr become human just before WW1 would get another writing job. Instead we had the run up to the disastrous Christmas/ New Year Tennant leaves special featuring 'The Silver Cloak' and one silly scene after another).

well Davies' last series were not good. Catherine Tate was fine for a while until the novelty wore off. Freema Agyreman was underwritten and on occasion took a 'lack of acting skills' pill and was promptly written out. etc Moffat's episodes in Davie's late era were a breath of fresh air because they were as good and as inventive as Davies' in that first Eccleston series.

Moffat's series have been in-consistant in that they have good episodes interspersed between many poor episodes. Moffat's improved the overall aesthetic of WHO mind - but he's taken the narrative plots in a fairytale direction cutting alot of human and sci fi drama out, only poorly supplemented by the insipid 'Pond's marital arc'.

I just think that WHO could be inventive again - and colourfully creative - like other fun sci fi shows - like Fringe say - and not be too overly ridiculous dumbed down and kids-orientated. DR WHO started out as gripping groundbreaking sci fi drama!
     

It's hard to imagine that many more series in which each series story arc gets more and more epic; after The Doctor has saved the Earth, the universe, and "reality itself", there's not much else left. Moffatt had a bit of a masterstroke though with the crack in time, effectively 'saving history', though I wasn't one of those able to follow it to the end, and the latest one looked similarly convoluted, with even Moffatt sayng it doesn't make perfect sense. I would be happy if they just piped down and went smaller scale, though it seems to be part of the hype machine that it has to somehow ramp it up each time, or perhaps that's just what people expect now after RTD set the template.

I blame Buffy.

you know what I'd like (apart from Gaiman to take over as lead writer);  for the doctor to think he's invincible and then get a smack down from some higher being - maybe a timelord survivor, and then stranded on an alien planet for half a series.

I think we should make Judgeblake chief ideas man for the new series!

Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 08 August, 2012, 10:22:00 PMI would be happy if they just piped down and went smaller scale

Wasn't that supposed to be the thinking behind the finale in the last series? "Back to the shadows" and all that?

I guess TV expectations combined with RTD are ultimately to blame here. RTD in particular loved ramping things up to epic proportions, but it was always the smaller stories that worked best, dropping the Doctor in situations that were scary and claustrophobic in some way. The problem is such moments are so easily destroyed. In Dalek, the Doctor is petrified on meeting a single dilapidated Dalek in a sealed room—it's a perfect (re)introduction to that race, and that continues as the Dalek methodically goes on to wipe out a base of soldiers. But then we end up with a billion Daleks flying round the sky like idiots, iDaleks and other horrible stories. And inevitably they suffer from Stormtrooper syndrome—apparently the threat of Daleks is inversely proportional to how many of them are around at any one time.

Still, I'm hoping for the new series to in many ways fulfil that promise of returning to the shadows, but I won't be shocked if it ramps things up, as is always the case (and, as in some cases the trailer seems to suggest anyway).

I've got a great idea for Dr Who introducing a whole new cast of character to the DW Universe.

Dr Who, trailing latest expendable companion arrives in Mega City 1 and ...oh dear.

I don't think an Alien Time Lord would get on to well with the Judge System. Still Dredd didn't always agree with Bruce Wayne's   Batman or his vigilante methods though they eventually co operated fighting together against both the Joker and Judge Death.

Perhaps, as someone else has suggested Dr Who should consider smaller, more character based story lines rather than the old ticking bomb plot which will destroy the Universe or time etc. Maybe a quick visit to Mega City 1 or it's DW clone equivalent might be more fun for the Dr Who writers than they imagine with lots of space, both positive and negative for both Dr Who and his companion to explore.

I notice in iBooks store that there is crossover comic collection of Doctor Who and Star Trek!!  :o

Six page thread for it here, Goaty - http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=35368.0

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 09 August, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Wasn't that supposed to be the thinking behind the finale in the last series? "Back to the shadows" and all that?

Oh yeah I forgot about that. It's a very good idea if followed through: They've done to death the idea that The Doctor's name alone can somehow magically halt an army.

Prior to Moffat taking over I actually made myself a list of ways I thought the show should be improved, and to my surprise he's done most of them, and surpassed.

[edited to repair quote—IP]

I do think the whole Dr faking his death and going into the shadows was a brilliant way to set up whatever is to come next from the show. I remember Davies having an alien ship crashing into Big Ben, so everybody on Earth now knew and believed in alien life- which I thought wasn't so good an idea. It still  wasn't as bad an idea, however, as a Christmas special scene were we see The Dr managing to stop a ship called the Titanic from crashing into Buckingham Palace and so the 'Queen' is seen waving as she calls, "Thank you, Doctor" or a giant cyberman destroying Victorian England (the latter soon to become an event that never really happened once Moffat took the reins).

But in the old dad we had Cybermen and Yetis wandering over London, as well as dinosaurs - not to mention the Loch Ness Monster swimming up the Thames.
"you humans have a remarkable talent for self deception," or words to that effect.

Dad=days. Stupid phone.

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 August, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
But in the old dad we had Cybermen and Yetis wandering over London, as well as dinosaurs - not to mention the Loch Ness Monster swimming up the Thames.
"you humans have a remarkable talent for self deception," or words to that effect.

Not really a fair comparison.

The Cybermen entered London while the world's entire population was briefly unconscious as a direct result of their work.
The Yeti scurried about through the London Underground - closed to the public at the time - and the few that appeared on the surface did so in thick fog.
The dinosaurs mainly appeared after the entire city had been evacuated.

That's the thing about the classic series - they were careful to always give themselves plausible deniability later on. Maybe a handful of civilians might witness each incident, but you always imagine they could be discounted as crazies by the majority of the population. RTD's Nuwho was too enamoured of its faux TV news reports on each and every invasion and panning shots of huge crowds pointing into the sky at spaceships to make anything like that work.

ugh.. don't like the thought of Star Trek TNG and WHO universes mixing - but the similarities (stuff the ST people nicked) are there in the Borg etc so I guess thats fun.

the doctor should regenerate into an older doctor again - or someone who is in his 40s (young still) but acts senile. In this respect they could have a same setup that Fringe has had - with the senile genius, the assistant, and the progeny??? That's actually close to how it was at the start as well when William Hartnell was the grumpy senile git, and Ian was the hero.   

I like that sort of idea, but why not regenerate into an older guy.

Maybe this could be the face of the new Doctor:


Roger Lloyd-Pack

Quote from: Judge von Boom on 09 August, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
I like that sort of idea, but why not regenerate into an older guy.

Maybe this could be the face of the new Doctor:


Roger Lloyd-Pack

ahh well the problem there is that he's played a particularly memorable bad guy in WHO before I think - though WHO does have a habit of having an actor who's been in the show as another character going on to be the Doctor or a key character - e.g. A while ago I was stating the case for Paterson Joseph to be the next Doctor, and he has already been a one-of bit-character in the series. I think an older doctor would definately work provided good character writing. Trying to think of older actors who could play the doctor - Mark Rylance? Kenneth Branagh of course. Robert Carlyle? .......Bill Nighy has been a fixture of the fan rumour-mill for a long time, but not sure about him as the doctor. Ben Kingsley would be excellent - but too big for WHO perhaps? Alot of people always mention Hugh Laurie as well, but I think that would be terrible as I don't think he'd be able to play the part eccentric and mad enough.   

also keying into the enviable Fringe dynamic that I mentioned that Doctor Who could emulate - as well as a speculative older doctor - anyone who could play a modern Quatermass would be good in the role = Anthony Sher? Kenneth Branagh? .....Brian Blessed!!??

The cowboy cyborg looks uncannily like our very own MEAN MACHINE ANGEL !

Quote from: JUDGE BURNS on 09 August, 2012, 11:38:41 PM
The cowboy cyborg looks uncannily like our very own MEAN MACHINE ANGEL !

very true!
though I'm sure they had a cyborg alot like him in Red Dwarf once as well.


http://theactivescrawler.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/best-cyborgs-in-fiction.html (http://theactivescrawler.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/best-cyborgs-in-fiction.html)

Having the Doctor as some major figure in the universe can actually work. I'm currently working my way through the Virgin New Adventures series of novels, and their use of The Cartmel Master Plan (essentially having the Doctor as a God like figure) works very well. Not only did it inject some mystery back into the character of the Doctor, something I feel they could do with doing again now, but it also allowed him to be in the shadows far more often, manipulating events from the background.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 09 August, 2012, 04:18:17 PM

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 August, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
But in the old dad we had Cybermen and Yetis wandering over London, as well as dinosaurs - not to mention the Loch Ness Monster swimming up the Thames.
"you humans have a remarkable talent for self deception," or words to that effect.

Not really a fair comparison.

The Cybermen entered London while the world's entire population was briefly unconscious as a direct result of their work.
The Yeti scurried about through the London Underground - closed to the public at the time - and the few that appeared on the surface did so in thick fog.
The dinosaurs mainly appeared after the entire city had been evacuated.

By that rationale, surely it's plausible that when the giant Cyberman was stomping Olde London Towne, most people were looking in a different direction?  Likewise when the aliens invaded and it was on tv, people probably just assumed it was Rupert Murdoch's channels being full of shit as usual, or that it was viral advertising for The Avengers or something like that.  There's this extra on the dvd of Independence Day where they string together all the news footage that appears on tv screens during the film and it's pretty convincing - you'd think you were watching the real Sky News only there's no digs at the BBC every few minutes.

Quote from: judgeblake on 08 August, 2012, 10:34:40 PM
you know what I'd like (apart from Gaiman to take over as lead writer);  for the doctor to think he's invincible and then get a smack down from some higher being - maybe a timelord survivor, and then stranded on an alien planet for half a series.

That already happened to Pertwee's Dr.  Those buggers on Gallifrey trapped him on Earth for most of his tenure, with the odd timelord gambit sending him spinning into some galactic affray. 

I personally think they should try a format of a story over six 30 min episodes, with a cliffhanger on each, or even three hour episodes, again with cliffhangers.  That was always my fave thing about the original series - the Dr, Sarah Jane or whoever, always looked like they were about to be zapped by something at the end of each episode - it was great!  It left me crying out for next Saturday to roll around. 

As for this new trailer, yeah, I'll definitely watch it even if it turns out to be shit.  I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

My nomination for a future older doctor.






V

Another older Doctor could be:



Clive Russell.

I've always enjoyed his acting.

On an aside note I just read on Alastair Reynold's website that he's writing a Who novel. Cool.

http://voxish.tripod.com/id21.html (http://voxish.tripod.com/id21.html)

my prefered older Doctor:


the real Brian Cox

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:19 PM

Quote from: judgeblake on 08 August, 2012, 10:34:40 PM
you know what I'd like (apart from Gaiman to take over as lead writer);  for the doctor to think he's invincible and then get a smack down from some higher being - maybe a timelord survivor, and then stranded on an alien planet for half a series.

That already happened to Pertwee's Dr.  Those buggers on Gallifrey trapped him on Earth for most of his tenure, with the odd timelord gambit sending him spinning into some galactic affray. 

I personally think they should try a format of a story over six 30 min episodes, with a cliffhanger on each, or even three hour episodes, again with cliffhangers.  That was always my fave thing about the original series - the Dr, Sarah Jane or whoever, always looked like they were about to be zapped by something at the end of each episode - it was great!  It left me crying out for next Saturday to roll around. 

As for this new trailer, yeah, I'll definitely watch it even if it turns out to be shit.  I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

I'd only like the doctor and co to be stranded for like half a series.....not a whole series or several series like Pertwee's Doctor.

One of the rumours for last year's series was The Dr gets stranded someplace for half the series and replaced by an evil clone going about causing mayhem until Amy figured out what was going on. It could have been a great story but it didn't happen.
On talk of who should play The Dr I'm going to confess I'm more than happy with Matt Smith in the role and I hope he remains for a few years to come. If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role. But personally, I like to think the producers don't sit around discussing who should be the Dr until they really have to. I like to believe they sit around discussing the best writers for upcoming episodes.

Quote from: Charlie boy on 10 August, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role.

Unlikely seeing as they've just announced he will be in this years Christmas special. Still I've always thought he would be an excellent Doctor, and enjoyed his alternate Doctor in The Scream of the Shalka.

I'll be honest- I saw online he's going to be in the Christmas special this year and although I know it can't possibly happen, I've got my fingers crossed that they somehow bring him in as a version of The Dr. After being disappointed by last year's Christmas episode, I'm hoping for something really big to make up for it.

Quote from: Tim Tailz on 10 August, 2012, 07:44:40 PM

Quote from: Charlie boy on 10 August, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role.

Unlikely seeing as they've just announced he will be in this years Christmas special. Still I've always thought he would be an excellent Doctor, and enjoyed his alternate Doctor in The Scream of the Shalka.

I'm still waiting to see if Moffat will nick a few more pointers from Fringe and make Richard E. Grant an 'alternate universe' version of the Doctor perhaps??

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

While I haven't seen a whole lot of Old Who, I did watch an episode a year or two back set during Colin Baker's run.

I don't think the episode was that great. I forget the name but it was set on a Morgue planet with that chap from Keeping Up Appearances and Alexei Sayle as an annoying DJ. The Doctor's american companion of the time was quite a hottie. The Doctor seemed to be a secondary character in his own show unlike the proactive character I've seen elsewhere with Tom Baker and modern who.

Colin Baker's portrayal of the Doctor was rather good though.

Revelation of the Daleks - for what it's worth, probably the finest of Colin Baker's stories. Colin is often maligned, but much of what was wrong with his era was entirely out of his hands (not least the bloody costume!) and I must admit to really enjoying his run as the Doctor these days. True, his performance could be variable, but when he's not overplaying it, he's great. (It's when he's not being reined in that things suffer.)

His performances carry on via the Big Finish Doctor Who CD range and he really is rather marvellous.

(And the hottie companion was Nicola Bryant as Peri - and she still is)

Yeah, however poor the colin baker stories get (and they do get very poor indeed), it's still more like 'real' dr who than that thing that's due to come back on our screens in a couple of weeks. Colin's turn as the character in the BF audios has shown what his few years could have been like with the right team behind him, and is some of the best dr who there's ever been. You'd be hugely mistaken if you thought michael grade's singling out of baker for the sack wasnt in a large part due to sexual jealousy.

SBT

I grew up with McCoy (though I guess I didn't grow up with it, because it stopped for a number of years and leaves me wondering how it can be classed as one of the longest-running TV shows when it was cancelled for what, over ten years?). After his run as The Dr, he starred in a play which a friend of mine went to see as part of his college course. My friend told me that this play included a scene in which McCoy stood naked before the audience- apparently burning an image of "the mini TARDIS" against said friend's retina.

Quote from: Charlie boy on 11 August, 2012, 07:05:51 PM
.... leaves me wondering how it can be classed as one of the longest-running TV shows when it was cancelled for what, over ten years?).

Marketing?  ;)

Well the first run was from 1963 to 1989. Twenty-six years is certainly a long run in its own right. Not many programmes can claim that, let alone being resurrected and running for another seven series and counting.

Seems quite straightforward to me. It started in 1963. It's still going in 2012. Now, longest consecutively running sci-fi tv show is a different thing altogether, and DW is obviously out of the running. I think Star Gate currently lays claim to that one.

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 13 August, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
Seems quite straightforward to me. It started in 1963. It's still going in 2012. Now, longest consecutively running sci-fi tv show is a different thing altogether, and DW is obviously out of the running. I think Star Gate currently lays claim to that one.

Stargate started in 1997 - only 16 years ago - how is that longer than a consecutive run of 1963 to 1989?

Teaser of the first episode!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMKZYnkFwmw&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMKZYnkFwmw&feature=player_embedded)

New Doctor Who and Dredd within days of each other. It's a good time to be a British geek, imo! :D

Quote from: Bat King on 18 August, 2012, 05:21:46 AM

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 13 August, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
Seems quite straightforward to me. It started in 1963. It's still going in 2012. Now, longest consecutively running sci-fi tv show is a different thing altogether, and DW is obviously out of the running. I think Star Gate currently lays claim to that one.

Stargate started in 1997 - only 16 years ago - how is that longer than a consecutive run of 1963 to 1989?

I was calling shenanigans on the Stargate thing for a long time until I recently became reminded of how absolutely new Who seems to be to some corners of Geekdom - even today. Seriously, Aint It Cool News just had an article about the five greatest DW episodes, and there was nothing from before 2005. Now armed with that knowledge, and if I can assume the Guinness board was stacked with Americans with their eyes off the international scene... yeah, I could buy that.