Title: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Red Dawn (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/story/2012-08-01/first-look-red-dawn/56623736/%28Life+-+Top+Stories%29) - the remake that time, and taste, forgot. It's now getting released.
"Originally it was the Chinese," Hutcherson says. "And then there was the thought that the Chinese own most of the companies making movies and that maybe it wasn't the best idea in the world."
In the end, the attacking forces became the North Koreans (aided by the Chinese and Russians). Meanwhile, the members of the small-town high school "put aside our John-Hughes-Breakfast-Club difference and unite" to fight off the attack, Peck says.
"There's the spider-trap moment when we just appear out of the ground," Peck says. "Red Dawn fans are going to be blown out by it."
"Originally it was the Chinese," Hutcherson says. "And then there was the thought that the Chinese own most of the companies making movies and that maybe it wasn't the best idea in the world."
In the end, the attacking forces became the North Koreans (aided by the Chinese and Russians). Meanwhile, the members of the small-town high school "put aside our John-Hughes-Breakfast-Club difference and unite" to fight off the attack, Peck says.
"There's the spider-trap moment when we just appear out of the ground," Peck says. "Red Dawn fans are going to be blown out by it."
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Oh this?
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 02 August, 2012, 04:10:01 PM
Post by: von Boom on 02 August, 2012, 04:10:01 PM
The first one was a load of tripe and probably shouldn't have been made.
A remake is just mind numbingly crackers.
A remake is just mind numbingly crackers.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 04:10:39 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 August, 2012, 04:10:39 PM
Commies must be shittin' themselves.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 August, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
Good trigger finger drills in that pic ;)
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 August, 2012, 04:12:47 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 02 August, 2012, 04:12:47 PM
Jeez, I get annoyed enough when they keep remaking good movies, but there's no excuse for scraping this particular barrel.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
Post by: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
But was there Aussie-version of Red Dawn? Tomorrow: When The War Began?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps)
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 02 August, 2012, 04:57:42 PM
Post by: von Boom on 02 August, 2012, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 02 August, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
But was there Aussie-version of Red Dawn? Tomorrow: When The War Began?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUO48xYJps)
This, at least, makes sense. Anyone that has ever played Risk knows that Australia is key to conquering the world.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 August, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 02 August, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
Tomorrow When the War Began is dreadful, Goaty. Don't do it to yourself, man, have a cup of tea and a biscuit and wonder at the marvels of God's creation out the window instead.
I will be disappointed if Red Dawn is not a massively racist film. In for a penny, in for a pound, that's my motto.
I will be disappointed if Red Dawn is not a massively racist film. In for a penny, in for a pound, that's my motto.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
North Korea invades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9N_yuxmCsw&list=UU8STGhLuvdPBHbAtz1wGZ4A&index=2&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9N_yuxmCsw&list=UU8STGhLuvdPBHbAtz1wGZ4A&index=2&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Colin Zeal on 03 August, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
Post by: Colin Zeal on 03 August, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
Made a couple of years ago but not released due to the studio's financial difficulties. the original is fantastically shit and offensive film but god help me I adore watching it. I may even dig out the dvd tonight.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: TordelBack on 03 August, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Post by: TordelBack on 03 August, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
The only thing that seems more ridiculous than that premise is the Entertainment Tonight voiceover. Poor Chris Hemsworth, I bet he was praying for a lightning strike on the studio archives.
Of course this footage might be misleading. Maybe the focus of the movie will be a North Korean Mobile Hospital unit, with wisecracking doctors and precog radio operators. For added realism the US locations could be filmed in Korea.
Of course this footage might be misleading. Maybe the focus of the movie will be a North Korean Mobile Hospital unit, with wisecracking doctors and precog radio operators. For added realism the US locations could be filmed in Korea.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 03 August, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Of course this footage might be misleading. Maybe the focus of the movie will be a North Korean Mobile Hospital unit, with wisecracking doctors and precog radio operators. For added realism the US locations could be filmed in Korea.
Genocide is painless
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 03 August, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
Post by: von Boom on 03 August, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
Genocide is painless
Depends which end of the genocide you're on.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 03 August, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Post by: Frank on 03 August, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
The original was a boring film with an interesting premise.
As a kid, I had to research a presentation on Hergé and discovered that he'd carried on drawing the adventures of his boy detective for Le XXe Siècle, the catholic newspaper he worked for, even after it fell under the editorial control of the invading Nazis. Me and a pal fell into a discussion about how we'd react in similar circumstances and that sparked my interest in how ordinary people dealt with life under occupation.
Since then, I've read a good few books on the invasion and occupation of Europe, Scandinavia and the Far East and their various forms of active and passive resistance and survival, like Maquis and If This Is A Man; and I've watched stuff like L'Armée des Ombres, Defiance and even Secret Army. I'm really interested in this subject, but I've no interest in watching this film.
As a kid, I had to research a presentation on Hergé and discovered that he'd carried on drawing the adventures of his boy detective for Le XXe Siècle, the catholic newspaper he worked for, even after it fell under the editorial control of the invading Nazis. Me and a pal fell into a discussion about how we'd react in similar circumstances and that sparked my interest in how ordinary people dealt with life under occupation.
Since then, I've read a good few books on the invasion and occupation of Europe, Scandinavia and the Far East and their various forms of active and passive resistance and survival, like Maquis and If This Is A Man; and I've watched stuff like L'Armée des Ombres, Defiance and even Secret Army. I'm really interested in this subject, but I've no interest in watching this film.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 03 August, 2012, 09:04:47 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 03 August, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
The original was a boring film with an interesting premise.
As a kid, I had to research a presentation on Hergé and discovered that he'd carried on drawing the adventures of his boy detective for Le XXe Siècle, the catholic newspaper he worked for, even after it fell under the editorial control of the invading Nazis. Me and a pal fell into a discussion about how we'd react in similar circumstances and that sparked my interest in how ordinary people dealt with life under occupation.
Since then, I've read a good few books on the invasion and occupation of Europe, Scandinavia and the Far East and their various forms of active and passive resistance and survival, like Maquis and If This Is A Man; and I've watched stuff like L'Armée des Ombres, Defiance and even Secret Army. I'm really interested in this subject, but I've no interest in watching this film.
In other words, you saw V like the rest of us and watched Diana deep-throating that guinea pig with equal amounts of facination and confusion.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
New official poster... oh fuck it's Twilight-style! ::)
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 10:41:59 AM
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 10:41:59 AM
How is that poster like Twilight?
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
I think Goaty means the thematic shift in advertising away from pushing the concepts or genre of a movie in favor of putting impossibly good-looking and airbrushed-to-buggery twentysomething "teenagers" front and center regardless of whether or not this tells you anything at all about the film. We are a hair's breadth away from Bill Hicks' vision of what Coke advertisements of the future would be like.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Is it really so different from how the original was sold?
It's high-schoolers as guerillas - that's Red Dawn. There isn't really much else to it. I don't see the problem, and I don't understand why everything with young people in nowadays is immediately accused of being 'like Twilight'.
Is Twilight so terrible anyway? I've never read it or watched any of the films, but it's not for me. I wouldn't expect a teenage girl to like the new Dredd film.
Not really, no. There's nothing especially cynical or overly sexualised about the poster.
Quote
whether or not this tells you anything at all about the film
It's high-schoolers as guerillas - that's Red Dawn. There isn't really much else to it. I don't see the problem, and I don't understand why everything with young people in nowadays is immediately accused of being 'like Twilight'.
Is Twilight so terrible anyway? I've never read it or watched any of the films, but it's not for me. I wouldn't expect a teenage girl to like the new Dredd film.
QuoteWe are a hair's breadth away from Bill Hicks' vision of what Coke advertisements of the future would be like.
Not really, no. There's nothing especially cynical or overly sexualised about the poster.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2012, 01:35:34 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2012, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
It's high-schoolers as guerillas - that's Red Dawn. There isn't really much else to it. I don't see the problem.
Those are pretty old high schoolers!
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
QuoteThose are pretty old high schoolers!
Have you ever seen a Hollywood high school movie before?
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Is it really so different from how the original was sold?
There's variety and character in those eh... "kids" that reflects the (admittedly broad) characterisation of the original film - they're a mixed bunch of high school types who are armed with guns, and that is a charged and political image and statement of intent. The new poster just looks like some kind of all-smolder catalog photo that says nothing beyond that you should want to sleep with one or more of the cast, much as the trailer told me nothing about any of the characters and only made me think I wanted to play the smalltown America invasion levels of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 again.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2012, 01:57:46 PM
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 August, 2012, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:39:19 PMQuoteThose are pretty old high schoolers!
Have you ever seen a Hollywood high school movie before?
true enoughn - Michael J Fox was getting away with it into his forties!
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
It's just a boring poster.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JamesC on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
Post by: JamesC on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 10 August, 2012, 01:49:13 PMQuote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
Is it really so different from how the original was sold?
There's variety and character in those eh... "kids" that reflects the (admittedly broad) characterisation of the original film - they're a mixed bunch of high school types who are armed with guns, and that is a charged and political image and statement of intent. The new poster just looks like some kind of all-smolder catalog photo that says nothing beyond that you should want to sleep with one or more of the cast, much as the trailer told me nothing about any of the characters and only made me think I wanted to play the smalltown America invasion levels of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 again.
I think the modern poster shows as much variety in character it's just that as times have changed the differences in fashions or high school social types have become more subtle. The original poster is from the John Hughes era where Sports Jacket = Jock and Leather Jacket = Rebel.
Based on the fashions/casting of the modern poster I would hazard a guess that from L-R they are: Head Cheerleader 'most popular girl in school' type / Nerdy Peter Parker type / Troubled, rebelious girl / Used to be on the football team and was an uber-jock but now rides a motor cycle because no one understands him / Slightly scummy, druggy type with a poetic soul.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
Post by: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
Totally agree with James.
I've only seen the original Red Dawn the once, but I remember it being extremely thin on plot and the characters are wafer thin - most of them are just bland cannon fodder. I don't really remember there being much in the way of character development or arcs.
No argument there - but I don't think there's anything especially cynical or sinister about it, and I'm not going to rail against it just because it is a modern thing that has young people in it, and I am relatively old. And let's face it - it's not like they're desecrating a classic here, is it? The remake might even be an improvement.
That girl on the far left does look about 30 though.
I've only seen the original Red Dawn the once, but I remember it being extremely thin on plot and the characters are wafer thin - most of them are just bland cannon fodder. I don't really remember there being much in the way of character development or arcs.
QuoteIt's just a boring poster.
No argument there - but I don't think there's anything especially cynical or sinister about it, and I'm not going to rail against it just because it is a modern thing that has young people in it, and I am relatively old. And let's face it - it's not like they're desecrating a classic here, is it? The remake might even be an improvement.
That girl on the far left does look about 30 though.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
I did say they were broad characters, but they were nonetheless characters. Leaving aside that you already know what Red Dawn is about, what does that new movie poster in isolation tell you?
I could be wrong, but that looks like the lass who played Wonder Woman in the recent tv show pilot that didn't get picked up.
Quote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:34 PMThat girl on the far left does look about 30 though.
I could be wrong, but that looks like the lass who played Wonder Woman in the recent tv show pilot that didn't get picked up.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
Post by: Goaty on 10 August, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
Here the trailer; http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/red-dawn-2010-2/trailers/red-dawn-2010-theatrical-trailer-30244194.html (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/red-dawn-2010-2/trailers/red-dawn-2010-theatrical-trailer-30244194.html)
Well, it looks watchable for dvd... but is it wrong I prefer the original?
Why the point of remake when they could do film version of Savage??
Well, it looks watchable for dvd... but is it wrong I prefer the original?
Why the point of remake when they could do film version of Savage??
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: von Boom on 10 August, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
Post by: von Boom on 10 August, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
This film is definitely cringe-worthy. I guess the US military doesn't think twice about engaging low flying aircraft over residential areas. Twenty-four baddies killed and... oops, fifty friendly civilians.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: JamesC on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:29 PMBased on the fashions/casting of the modern poster I would hazard a guess that from L-R they are:
All of those guesses were wrong, but in fairness, I don't think you are unreasonable in expecting a bit of variety in the characters. Your mistake was putting more thought and effort into your post than the makers did their script.
I joked about Modern Warfare 2 and 3's homeland invasion levels up the thread, but there actually seems to be scenes in the official Red Dawn trailer that are directly lifted from videogames, including the bus escape sequence from Homefront, an FPS about the resistance that forms after Koreans invade North America that was based on a story by John Milius, who wrote and directed the original Red Dawn movie. It has basically gotten a bit ouroboros-y.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
Quote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:34 PMQuoteIt's just a boring poster.
No argument there - but I don't think there's anything especially cynical or sinister about it
The idea of this film is too stupid to be cynical.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:12:47 PM
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:12:47 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 10:44:20 PMQuote from: radiator on 10 August, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
I don't think there's anything especially cynical or sinister about it
The idea of this film is too stupid to be cynical.
What's stupid about the idea of a foreign military whose airforce and naval fleet are incapable of operating beyond their immediate territorial boundaries staging an invasion of the US mainland?
The percentage of the US population fit for military service exceeds that of North Korea by a factor of ten, and much of North Korea's population is so malnourished they have to eat grass, but I'm sure the film's producers have developed an uncynical work-around that addresses those aporia.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 11:20:03 PM
Post by: Professor Bear on 10 August, 2012, 11:20:03 PM
However good it turns out, a remake is automatically cynical. "The US is invaded" is hardly a unique premise, they could have made their own story, but they wanted something from the original, be it the marketing value of the name or the critical cache... yes, well, I'm not convinced by that one either, but the makers could have gone their own way and didn't. "The idea of this film is too stupid to be cynical" really only applies to the original.
It's set in an alternate reality.
Quote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:12:47 PMI'm sure the film's producers have developed an uncynical work-around that addresses those aporia.
It's set in an alternate reality.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:12:47 PM
What's stupid about the idea of a foreign military whose airforce and naval fleet are incapable of operating beyond their immediate territorial boundaries staging an invasion of the US mainland?
The percentage of the US population fit for military service exceeds that of North Korea by a factor of ten, and much of North Korea's population is so malnourished they have to eat grass, but I'm sure the film's producers have developed an uncynical work-around that addresses those aporia.
What's stupid is that North Korea would invade in the first place.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 10 August, 2012, 11:20:03 PM
It's set in an alternate reality.
Where Kim Jong Un was an initiate of The Order of the Golden Dawn and developed cloning technology to allow hyper-dimensional entities to manifest on the physical plane?
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:29:50 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 10 August, 2012, 11:20:03 PM
"The idea of this film is too stupid to be cynical" really only applies to the original.
Which is why I said idea.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
What's stupid is that North Korea would invade in the first place.
Maybe they heard the US had weapons of mass destruction and accounts for 10% of the world's oil production.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:36:52 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Maybe they heard the US had weapons of mass destruction and accounts for 10% of the world's oil production.
and they believed their War Fleet had a chance of traversing 6000 miles of land and sea without being spotted. As for Oil & WMD, Saudi or Iran are closer.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 10 August, 2012, 11:39:54 PM
Post by: Definitely Not Mister Pops on 10 August, 2012, 11:39:54 PM
North Korea attempting to invade US soil would be a great plot for a French Farce
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
Post by: Frank on 10 August, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:36:52 PMQuote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Maybe they heard the US had weapons of mass destruction and accounts for 10% of the world's oil production.
As for Oil & WMD, Saudi or Iran are closer.
I was really drawing a parallel with the justification behind the invasion of Iraq, rather than trying to apply serious thought to a film that exists solely for the purpose of entertainment.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
I was really drawing a parallel with the justification behind the invasion of Iraq, rather than trying to apply serious thought to a film that exists solely for the purpose of entertainment.
I know, but I'd like to see the scene of NK at the UN with a vial of flu and some 70's polaroids.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 12:11:39 AM
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 12:11:39 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 10 August, 2012, 11:52:23 PMQuote from: bikini kill on 10 August, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
I was really drawing a parallel with the justification behind the invasion of Iraq, rather than trying to apply serious thought to a film that exists solely for the purpose of entertainment.
I know, but I'd like to see the scene of NK at the UN with a vial of flu and some 70's polaroids.
The Adlai Stevenson moment! North Korean General Ko Lun Powl would perform the modern day act of flim-flammery. If Milius was still in the director's chair no-one would need any more motivation or justifcation than their being godless communists/proud Americans.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
Quote from: bikini kill on 11 August, 2012, 12:11:39 AM
If Milius was still in the director's chair no-one would need any more motivation or justifcation than their being godless communists/proud Americans.
It'd be great if BBC/DNA had that gumption to make Savage.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
It'd be great if BBC/DNA had that gumption to make Savage.
Re-imagine it as an Eastenders crossover and cast Phil Mitchell as Savage. When anyone gets injured, they're taken to Holby General. Merging the Mills-verse and the Reith-verse would result in so many anomalies they'd have to do a Crisis On Infinite Walfords to sort out the continuity, though.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Post by: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
I'm sure they could use the spare Hammerstein from Dredd '95 for the Albert Sq. massacre.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 10:09:06 AM
Post by: Frank on 11 August, 2012, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
I'm sure they could use the spare Hammerstein from Dredd '95 for the Albert Sq. massacre.
Clever! History's greatest example of anomalous character interpolation syndrome. It doesn't look as if the new Red Dawn has used the customary remake tool of inviting members of the previous version's cast back for cameos, which is a relief. I'm never sure who Paul Michael Glaser and David Soul in Starsky and Hutch (2004) or James Garner in Maverick (1994) are meant to be.
Casting Jennifer Grey in the remake to remind people of her role in the original would be pointless, since she has an entirely new face.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: radiator on 11 August, 2012, 11:21:11 AM
Post by: radiator on 11 August, 2012, 11:21:11 AM
I remember watching the original a few years ago and thinking the pilot looked a lot like Jeffrey Dean Morgan. I went on to IMDB to see if it was him, and discovered that it wasn't, but JDM had been cast in that exact role in the remake!
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: soggy on 11 August, 2012, 08:09:36 PM
Post by: soggy on 11 August, 2012, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 August, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
I'm sure they could use the spare Hammerstein from Dredd '95 for the Albert Sq. massacre.
I will buy a BBC tv licence if they promise to film that. (not UK resident)