Riddell for companion please
Doctor killed someone...eep...
Maybe he's dead but I doubt it. Solomon's too good a baddie to be bumped off. I hope he returns (and the excellently voiced sarky robots). Good, fun episode with the Rory's Dad sitting on the steps of the Tardis drinking tea eating a sarnie and looking dahn at Earth my fave bit. New companions were great. Hope to see more of them as well.
I think that was a fairly enjoyable episode. It did feel a bit like Chris Chibnall had thrown too many ideas into the melting pot however. Nefertiti and Riddell only seemed to be there to give Amy someone to talk to.
In the publicity photos in DWM I thought the Dinosaurs looked pretty poor. But in the actual episode they looked fantastic. Poor Tricey. :'(
I was suprised to hear Mitchell and Webb as the voices of the robots. I don't remember there being any pre publicity about their involvement.
I hadn't been looking forward to this one so much because I thought it looked a little too much of a "just for the youngsters" episode (I can find such episodes fun when I'm sitting with younger family members but I knew I wouldn't be tonight) but it was enjoyable. I'm going to agree with an earlier reply and say that I also hope Solomon returns and the shot of Rory's dad looking down on the Earth was definitely a nice touch.
Enjoyed that - although I would have liked Riddell to have been played by Rik Mayall in Lord Flashheart mode!
What a load of old shit. I loved it.
However, my dad phoned during the episode. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hW_UQASjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hW_UQASjY)
Foolish!
Fluff and nonsense. It was disposable and to be honest not the kind of fun fluff that Doctor Who can be. Just the rubbish sort. It tried so hard to be cute, but just felt laboured and stilted. My wife looked at me about 15 minutes in and said something like.
"Even though this seems like its written for you, even you can't be liking this one".
She was so right.
Still judging by early reaction seems like I'm just being a miserable grump so I'll shout up.
Just finished watching it with the family, we all ate ice cream and thoroughly enjoyed it. Now an argument is ensuing over which of my sons have bought Outpost: Black Sun on Sky Store, And how the heck the knew the pin number :o
Addendum to the above, no one admitting to the deed, phoned Sky and they are calling me back tomorrow night to tell me the date and time when it was purchased...
On a Doctor Who note, it was truly a great episode and very funny in parts. Lovely Saturday night light entertainment, not great Who but not bad.
I dunno- on the one hand, I've grown to really like Matt Smith's Doctor and I think he was at his best in this one. And the script was funny, I guess. And it had that fantastic gag about Rory's dad's balls- which I love because it has had a bit of a hand-grenade effect among Dr Who fans, causing them to splutter their tea, spill the biscuits and involuntarily kick off the tartan fleeces. But on the other... I'm not watching 'Friends' (the show Moffat really, really wishes he'd written) so why does everybody sound like they're auditioning for it? And why is Moffat forcing Chris Chibnall (who Dr Who fans hate) to write like Moffat, when he's capable of so much better than this and should be allowed to develop. And there weren't enough dinosaurs, and it unexpectedly had Mitchell and Webb in it- which if I'd've known, I'd've used as an excuse to have a bath while it was on. And none of it made any sense, and it existed entirely to fill 45 minutes of prime-time tv without a single thought towards anything more than being moving pictures in a box in the corner, with loud noises and shapes going pop, so we didn't turn over. Moffat's very good at making that kind of thing, I suppose. But to be honest, they may as well have broadcast a kaleidoscope and fart noises.
Today, the Dr Who Fan bit of my brain had an orgasm when I bought a copy of 'The Invasion From Space'- a 1966 hardback storybook featuring William Hartnell's Doctor that may be the first ever piece of commercially available long-form Dr Who fiction. I've been after this for literally half my life, if not longer- and I've finally secured a copy (if one that's so battered, it comes in three pieces. Doesn't matter one jot). That gives me far more pleasure than tonight's episode will probably ever do.
But next week looks good. As long as it does actually rip off Westworld, and not just use the surface iconography to entice the audience in, then batter them with rapid-fire 90s American sitcom cliches.
SBT
I thought it was the first who episode in ages that actually DID make sense, a nice, straightforward story and great fun. Dinosaurs, robots, Silurians, a baddie who gets his comeuppance, a hot Nefertiti and some good comedy interplay between ' The ponds' - what's not to love?. Mark Williams in particular was very good, but Mitchell & Webb seemed rather pointlessly included.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 08 September, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
I thought it was the first who episode in ages that actually DID make sense, a nice, straightforward story and great fun. Dinosaurs, robots, Silurians, a baddie who gets his comeuppance, a hot Nefertiti and some good comedy interplay between ' The ponds' - what's not to love?. Mark Williams in particular was very good, but Mitchell & Webb seemed rather pointlessly included.
I watched this with my son (13) and his friend and we had a ball. We thought the camp robots added fun at first but then when they started getting violent it got a bit creepy ( in a good way). I didn't realise who the robots were voiced by but my son was in there like "hey that's M & W!".
"Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" - so cheesy but what a line! Almost as good as "Clay Pidgeon shooting, with tanks"
Very silly, but a lot of fun. Brought back memories of Tom Baker and K9. Ahhhhhhh
Barny
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 08 September, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
But to be honest, they may as well have broadcast a kaleidoscope and fart noises.
Wasn't that how they did the original opening titles?
Expected a crappy one-joke-idea episode, like the pirates one.
Wow! That was probably one of the best stand-alone Doctor Who episodes ever! (And I speak as a Pertwee man, myself)
Enjoyed that. Good fun and showed that the doctor still has a dark vengeful side.
V
Has anybody else had a problem watching this on iPlayer? I've tried on two different devices but no joy. It's there on screen but won't let me watch. Never had that before.
Quote from: Light Surfer on 09 September, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
Has anybody else had a problem watching this on iPlayer? I've tried on two different devices but no joy. It's there on screen but won't let me watch. Never had that before.
Just watched it on iPlayer on Xbox with no problems.
Thought it was an alright episode but I prefer the more serious stories to these silly ones.
I imagine for, say, an eight-year-old viewer, that would've probably been a pretty exciting episode. And there's nothing wrong with that. Didn't do much for me though - in fact, it came close to giving me a bit of a headache. Too much, too fast, lots of sound and fury, signifying little. I'd've done it without Nefertiti / Riddell entirely, so we could have had more focus on Rory's dad. As for Matt Smith - on the one hand, I thought he underplayed it on occasion rather well, but I might've liked a steelier response to the death of the triceratops: compare it with Eccleston's response to the death of the pig in 'Aliens of London', where he really sold how angry and upset it made him. (Though in fairness, Smith's response was still miles ahead of how Tennant typically mishandled those sorts of scenes - unconvincing shouting ahoy.)
A rather over egged pudding for me.
That was one magic golf ball.
Really didn't need the two extra companions, quite liked M+W just because bickering robots made me want to see a live action Ro-busters.
Last season I found I had reached the point in my life where I couldn't object to love being a metaphysical cure-all in this idealistic fantasy world.
This season I have reached the point where I can't waste brain power on worrying about the erratic morality of the Doc himself. A man who rides around in a stolen ship and kills all who oppose him, often in units of species, objecting to a pirate killing the crew of a single spaceship? Er, sure, whatever.
I enjoyed this episode a lot.
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 08 September, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
Poor Tricey. :'(
[spoiler]I thought that was pretty brave including that scene! I was a bit shocked, I wonder how some of the kiddies reacted? (I know dinosaurs being killed is actually fun for a lot of kids, but they turned Tricey into a big puppy!)
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I don't intend that as a criticism. I admire their balls! (Insert joke innuendo here...)
Anyway, I enjoyed that episode a lot. And the robot designs, silly characters though they were. Not that that's a bad thing. [spoiler]I really liked the Siurian ark concept. [/spoiler]
So was the fact that the Doctor [spoiler]didn't appear in the pirate dude's database[/spoiler] just a coincidence or did it [spoiler]use cloud services rented from the Daleks, hence his non-appearance? Is Oswin's influence stretching further than just the Daleks?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Mudcrab on 13 September, 2012, 04:59:13 PM
So was the fact that the Doctor...
Almost no one is supposed to think he's alive/exists any more, the Daleks were an exception... but not any more.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 September, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
Almost no one is supposed to think he's alive/exists any more, the Daleks were an exception... but not any more.
That's what I thought to begin with, but then realised there are two problems with that explanation.
[spoiler]Queen Nefertiti was in the database despite having died three and a half thousand years ago,[/spoiler] and The Doctor's a time traveller.
Quote from: M.I.K. on 13 September, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
That's what I thought to begin with, but then realised there are two problems with that explanation.
Three problems... the third being that you're thinking about this waaay too much. :-)
(I know that's a glib answer, but I honestly don't mind plot holes as long as they pass by fast enough and don't de-rail the plot entirely. Or indeed, announce themselves and then jump up and down waving their utter stupidity in your face, a la RTD.)
Cheers!
Jim
The Dr faked his death with the help of a time traveling police force of some kind. Maybe they've helped out when it comes to official records. His smile when he came up as unknown could also imply he's been doing something along those lines. If he HAD been recognised, Solomon would surely have been interested in the money he could have made from the last Time Lord and the story would have had to go down an entirely different route.
Ah, right enough, I forgot about him being dead ::)
It's a job keeping track of Doctor Who these days. Splendid stuff.
Cheers all.
We're 6 & a half days behind here in Auxtralia &...
...let's just say that Doctor Who meets the Flinstones hasn't altered Stevie's opinion of Chris Chibnal writing one jot.
Quote from: Mardroid on 10 September, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
Quote from: Tim Tailz on 08 September, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
Poor Tricey. :'(
[spoiler]I thought that was pretty brave including that scene! I was a bit shocked, I wonder how some of the kiddies reacted? (I know dinosaurs being killed is actually fun for a lot of kids, but they turned Tricey into a big puppy!)
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The poor little darlings were doubtlessly still too from the [spoiler]time totty torture / Dalek conversion sequence[/spoiler] in last week's to have noticed.
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 08 September, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
Still judging by early reaction seems like I'm just being a miserable grump so I'll shout up.
What's the point of having dinosaurs in it but no one gets devoured, right?
Quote from: Mardroid on 10 September, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
[spoiler]I really liked the Siurian ark concept. [/spoiler]
You know, if Who were going to do [spoiler]their own high wire martial arts extravaganza [/spoiler][spoiler] then a Silaurian generation ship[/spoiler][spoiler] combined with the return of [/spoiler][spoiler] Madam Vastra[/spoiler][spoiler] –-a reptilian Rendezvous With Rapier, so to speak-- [/spoiler][spoiler] would have been just the ticket.[/spoiler]
Finally got round to sit my son down in front of this. He loved it and shed a tear when the Triceratops copped it. The writing is perfect for the target audience.
V