Haven't read the rules as yet but a bit annoying that us newbies to the forum can't seem to post or reply on the more interesting and current topics, and by that I mean the movie, or am I missing something here. I take it I need to make at least x amount of posts before I get let out of the sandpit? Guess it's the price for coming late to the party.
Welcome Judge Fudge! Unfortunately the site has been targeted by spammers in the past as well as one detestable individual in particular who would continuously sign up to the board under different names and upset many, many people.
You have those two stains on humanity to thank!
Pete sums up the reasoning nicely. It's not about numbers of posts, it's just a slight delay while it's determined that you're not a mutie, droid or inter-dimensional super-fiend.
Imagine the forum is a swimming pool. It's in all the bathers' interests that known or suspected widdlers are kept in the kiddie pool. Once it's clear that you're not one of those, and unlikely to indulge in heavy petting, you can move into the main pool. But be aware: it's all the deep end.
Be patient. We have top people working on it. Top people.
Hey, anything to keep this forum spam-free I geuss. I can't even leave posts in the film discussion yet but I'm not complaining. Rules are rules I geuss and I'm glad that at least some places bother to take measures against these trolls.
I wondered why this was the case, thought it was just me! I can't even access my own profile etc?!? :o
Thanks for clearing that up gents. Having seen some of the posters on IMDB I can completely understand. Cheers!
I take it you're referring to clr03f. He seems to be the main detractor. Can't understand what this guys/girls motives or problems are. Dredd fan or not a film like this deserves support as its stuck to its guns in a world of compromise and insipid multiplex film making.
Quote from: Judge Fudge on 24 September, 2012, 03:06:53 AM
I take it you're referring to clr03f. He seems to be the main detractor. Can't understand what this guys/girls motives or problems are. Dredd fan or not a film like this deserves support as its stuck to its guns in a world of compromise and insipid multiplex film making.
I've not looked at those boards so I've no idea who's who, but I'm willing to bet the worst of it is led by a mentally-ill person named Scott who was banned from this site more than a decade ago.
Now he has to content himself with replying to his own mouth-foaming claptrap elsewhere. He kills message boards, so we have to have entry requirements for this one. Sorry, Fudge!
Quote from: Trout on 24 September, 2012, 10:55:31 AM
I've not looked at those boards so I've no idea who's who, but I'm willing to bet the worst of it is led by a mentally-ill person named Scott who was banned from this site more than a decade ago.
Now he has to content himself with replying to his own mouth-foaming claptrap elsewhere. He kills message boards, so we have to have entry requirements for this one. Sorry, Fudge!
The CLF guy is just a common or garden troll but Scott has been actively posting the same six posts on IMDB for as long as I was there and that was only since June and over that period he has been banned from IMDB about nine times.
I don't have much experience of on-line fandom but he does seem completely dedicated to alienating himself from everything that he purports to love.
Quote from: Samson_k on 24 September, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Quote from: Trout on 24 September, 2012, 10:55:31 AM
I've not looked at those boards so I've no idea who's who, but I'm willing to bet the worst of it is led by a mentally-ill person named Scott who was banned from this site more than a decade ago.
Now he has to content himself with replying to his own mouth-foaming claptrap elsewhere. He kills message boards, so we have to have entry requirements for this one. Sorry, Fudge!
The CLF guy is just a common or garden troll but Scott has been actively posting the same six posts on IMDB for as long as I was there and that was only since June and over that period he has been banned from IMDB about nine times.
I don't have much experience of on-line fandom but he does seem completely dedicated to alienating himself from everything that he purports to love.
Yeah.
But I feel bad now that I may have started another one of those threads where people talk about him. I will change the subject.
HELLO, JUDGE FUDGE! Good name.
I think I've come across this Scott guy elsewhere, he was having conversations with himself using different accounts on the same forum (Empire I think) about the film until someone called him out on it. As a bit of a lurker on several Dredd film forums I've seen him crop up all over the place using the same tired old arguments.
Ah well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and mines is they're a bunch of fuds who are clearly bored of their dicks.
Wow, seems there are more people who detest the IMDB discussion forum(or at least the spammers that plague it) then I thought. Anyone else feel the same way about the Youtube comments section? That brings out the worst in me!
Haven't read many of the comment sections on YT for a while. There are a couple of legends on there though, Eldospinks and Silverthumring. They must have gone through a couple of keyboards between them with the hours they've put in.
hi im new,and im all for the time lapse/initiation period,i used to use the battlefield 3 forums and they are the most detestible forums your likely to come across,im totally anti troll and will be looking forward to having a decent dissusions with like minded people who dont use the gutless anonimity of the interweb to spread their shortcummings in life. cheers ;-)
Quote from: sharkeyfinn on 24 September, 2012, 06:33:37 PM
hi im new,and im all for the time lapse/initiation period,i used to use the battlefield 3 forums and they are the most detestible forums your likely to come across,im totally anti troll and will be looking forward to having a decent dissusions with like minded people who dont use the gutless anonimity of the interweb to spread their shortcummings in life. cheers ;-)
Ah, I know
exactly what you mean by those BF3 boards. Seriously, though, it's not just there. I've noticed that it's a trend these days to just be a moaning, negative wanker on the internet. It's getting worse by the year, and I just think it's a sad reflection on today's society in general. It's not that I'm just getting older, either. I've noticed this down the years being online. More and more gobshites having free license to run their traps online. It often makes message boards and comment sections seriously irritating to read, the Dredd trailer on Youtube being a classic case in point.
Oh, and how many posts do you need to get into the threads about the film? I could have edited my other post to ask this, but every little helps. :)
Speaking of which I can't seem to edit my posts anymore.
As somebody who has been posting to the IMDB boards for awhile, I understand and agree with this method. About once per week I find myself bumping Goaty's "don't feed the trolls" thread on that board. I sometimes feel as if I need a shower after reading some of the trollish threads that pop up there whenever the film gets into the news cycle. BTW-Mr. Wells, would that infamous troller you had issues with be the same one who has been trolling the IMDB boards? I believe his name starts with an S.
Aaron
Quote from: Judge Fudge on 24 September, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
Haven't read many of the comment sections on YT for a while. There are a couple of legends on there though, Eldospinks and Silverthumring. They must have gone through a couple of keyboards between them with the hours they've put in.
And myself for awhile, haven't been back there much since the film came out but poor old Silverthumbring has to wait for the Aussie release.
Aye, this expat is waiting very patiently till the 25th Oct. Hope they don't pull it if the State side figures don't improve. This is the only time I've missed being back home, that and Greggs Scotch pies of course.
Mr. Fudge, you won't be disappointed. ;)
Well Dredd doesn't come out here in Amsterdam till October 11 but I'm not too worried about the chances of it being pulled, Dutch theatres are more open minded towards critical reception then box office intake and Dredd is already getting excellent reviews.
Pretty sure I wont be disappointed given the critical reception. Knew it would be good once I heard of Alex Garlands involvement. Anyway, I've already had my anticipointment film this year with Prometheshite and I don't reckon it will be the case with Dredd.
Not to get of topic but yeah, Prometheus, meh.
Still glad I didn't go see that. it seems the film's only selling point is that it's a possible Alien prequal which it clearly isn't.
Soooooooooooo when are we allowd to post in the film discussion forum?
Prometheus is a fantastically beautiful film that defies its own internal logic. It wants to be a deeply thought provoking old school science fiction story, but succeeds at being really lame alien porn. On the other hand, Dredd knows exactly what it wants to be and nails it.
QuoteSoooooooooooo when are we allowd to post in the film discussion forum?
When you and I are allowed out of the sub basement my friend.
Aaaahhhhh now I get it. In the meantime I'll just eat more rats.
QuoteIt wants to be a deeply thought provoking old school science fiction story, but succeeds at being really lame alien porn.
Alien porn eh? You may have just given me a reason to check out the DVD!
QuoteAlien porn eh? You may have just given me a reason to check out the DVD!
Yes...It's worth the rental...In fact my rating of the film would be either $2 redbox rental or wait for Netflix.
Should I look under the 'movie' or 'porn' section?
Bad joke, I know.
QuoteShould I look under the 'movie' or 'porn' section?
Not sure if Netflix or Redbox has a porn section. But let me know if they do. :o
Good that it's not just me that's read through a thread, found a good post and went to hit "quote" only to see the button missing :o
What I would like to know is what the bloody hell happened to the 'edit' option?
QuoteNot sure if Netflix or Redbox has a porn section. But let me know if they do. :o
What I meant was which section should I check at the rental shop :lol:
Does anyone know how long it usually takes for newbies to get full access to their profile, or how many times you need to post if that's how it works?
I applaud the anti-troll measures, but can't wait to be a full-fledged member ....
Quote from: TordelBack on 23 September, 2012, 10:57:28 AM
Imagine the forum is a swimming pool. It's in all the bathers' interests that known or suspected widdlers are kept in the kiddie pool.
:lol:
I can promise I wont widdle any where on the forum :D
Quote from: Mr Walter the Wobot on 27 September, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
Does anyone know how long it usually takes for newbies to get full access to their profile, or how many times you need to post if that's how it works?
I applaud the anti-troll measures, but can't wait to be a full-fledged member ....
Surely it should be that the less you post and the more time spent on the forum should grant you access? I mean, anyone can sign up and just post spam for the sake of it? As the topic says, it is a bit annoying, especially when you want to post in a particular thread of interest.
Welcome aboard, Rusty!
That's a good point you make. Maybe it's more so the moderators can assess how genuine our posts are, to make sure we're not just spammers lurking or something.
Incidentally, I now have over 100 posts and am no longer a Sub Basement Sewer Dweller, and I am still unable to post in the film discussion forum.
What gives?
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 17 October, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
Incidentally, I now have over 100 posts and am no longer a Sub Basement Sewer Dweller, and I am still unable to post in the film discussion forum.
What gives?
Try sending a message to Admin mate, could be they overlooked it or something... ;)
Quote from: Cursed Earth Dweller on 17 October, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
Incidentally, I now have over 100 posts and am no longer a Sub Basement Sewer Dweller, and I am still unable to post in the film discussion forum.
What gives?
I'm putting down to them a) being swamped by n00bs as a result of the film and b) perhaps, just perhaps, the film has attracted a lot of other people wanting to make an anime version of all the progs and c) make another film. I live and dream :o
I completely get the whole vetting thing, makes sense and I have no issue with it whatsoever on principal, especially as I lurked for a bit on the boards back during one of the 'troubled times' (which is also why I didn't become a member myself at that time) so there is certainly good reason for it. But surely it is a bit of a balancing act, as if you make legitimate new arrivals wait too long many of them are likely to become disheartened, give up and leave, not bothering to return. And when that kind of thing starts to happen regularly a board runs the risk of becoming a bit stagnant.
Of course this board is probably insulated to that to a certain degree given what I would imagine to be a fairly large and active membership base, but still, it is something to consider.
Then again, what do I know. I'm just a mutie scratching at the outside walls myself... :lol:
Quote from: MabsTry sending a message to Admin mate, could be they overlooked it or something... ;)
Will do general, cheers (if I can find the balls to actually get hold of one that is).
Quote from: MrHorizontalI'm putting down to them a) being swamped by n00bs as a result of the film and b) perhaps, just perhaps, the film has attracted a lot of other people wanting to make an anime version of all the progs and c) make another film. I live and dream
That is true, there hase beeb an influx of new members as if late mostly due to the critical success of the film.
Although I have noticed there are members posting on the film discussion forum that have post counts lower then 20 even, but I take they were already members for a while before they actually started posting and thus acquitted themselfs as none-potential spammers.
Neverthless, I respect the terms of this forum and shall carry out the sentance the mods have intended for me.
Hopefully it won't be too long mate.
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Hopefully it won't be too long mate.
Well it's been a few months for me. I tend not to post unless I have something to add to a discussion or want to ask a question, so being unable to post in the prog review or film discussion areas is a bit of a downer.
I understand that us newbies are vetted manually and not by some automated post count or membership length so all it takes is one person to be ill or on holiday and a backlog can build up.
What exactly went on for newer posters to be vetted as such in the first place? I get that there are spammers and trolls aplenty on the net, but there would have had to have been some dedicated trolls to evoke such a policy from the admins on here. I agree with Mabs here. I'm the same. I don't really post unless I feel like saying something.
Mainly one, who would get repeatedly banned and re-register under a different name.
I do wonder if it might be time to relax the policy and see how it goes.
Nah, I'd rather put up with this policy then risk having to read the perpetual bollocks of more trolls.
If I watch anything on YouTube I have to keep my eyes from straying too far down the screen in case I accidentally espy the comments section and lose the will to carry on living. I'm a devotee of the magazine Empire and regularly use IMDb but will have nothing to do with the commenting aspects of either as there will inevitably be droves of dickheads flocking to them too.
Sorry if I'm coming off as a precious flower but I have little time for such people. I'm taking a chance with 2000AD as I sort of imagined it as a utopian happy family of people who all love what I love where I can gambol merrily about without fear of being drivelled at.
I'm glad that the organisers are taking steps to make this a possibility and if I have to wait a bit before I can access some bits then that's fair enough by me.
Quote from: Steve Green on 30 October, 2012, 12:31:52 PM
Mainly one, who would get repeatedly banned and re-register under a different name. I do wonder if it might be time to relax the policy and see how it goes.
I can see why it was necessary in the run up to the film, but that moment has passed; it's just something that will alienate casual readers now. I initially thought your comment was made with regard to the former member you reference. I don't think granting him some kind of limited access with restrictions on how much and how often he could post would be such a terrible idea, but the downside to his antics is the way they can bring out a quite nasty side to otherwise pleasant characters. Seeing forumites on
IMDB and
Empire pile onto him is like watching the
X-Factor audience braying at the mentally ill during the early audition stages.
QuoteI don't think granting him some kind of limited access with restrictions on how much and how often he could post would be such a terrible idea
You are very very wrong.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 November, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
QuoteI don't think granting him some kind of limited access with restrictions on how much and how often he could post would be such a terrible idea
You are very very wrong.
Probably. He drove the
Empire admins crazy last January, and he's currently treating Bond fans on that site to almost exactly the same arguments now. Substitute
Roger Moore for
Wagner's Dredd and you could be reading the same posts. I can see why
years of that would try the patience of a saint.
I tried to warn the Empire mods at the start, but was basically told to go away and mind my own business - so drokk them, I say!
Quote from: sauchie on 06 November, 2012, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: Steve Green on 30 October, 2012, 12:31:52 PM
Mainly one, who would get repeatedly banned and re-register under a different name. I do wonder if it might be time to relax the policy and see how it goes.
I can see why it was necessary in the run up to the film, but that moment has passed; it's just something that will alienate casual readers now.
There is definitely some truth in this. I mean I generally consider myself to be a pretty patient and level headed kind of guy, and back in the day I was lead admin at a quite popular web forum for a number of years, so I know all about the delicate balance between allowing for freedom of speech and not tolerating troll like behaviour. So I do understand the caution. Especially the efforts to keep away for good certain parties who never seem to get the message that they are no longer welcome or wanted, thanks to their chosen behaviour.
But at the same time, I have to admit, I'm already feeling the itch of impatience creeping in, and it is a little frustrating and alienating to continually be locked out of the ability to add to certain discussions and topics on the board. Especially when the granting of full membership seems, from what I can tell, to be somewhat arbitrary, with no set number of posts, or no given length of time that you have to be a member for, no particular rhyme or reason other than one random day sometime in the future you get judged as having suitably proven yourself to not be a troll.
And because there is no set goal, no real indication of what it takes to prove oneself worthy, after a while you start to feel like you may well be a mutie scratching on the outside walls forever, wondering if you'll ever suitably prove yourself, and questioning if it is even worth the effort. Especially as every day you log in you are constantly reminded that you are not really part of the club yet, as you see topics that you would like to join in with, but can't.
I mean, hey, the folks with the lease are free to run the board and enforce the rules of their house however they see fit, and I'm not saying any different, but just know that in taking such a hard line approach, you do risk a fairly high attrition rate in potentially discouraging and even outright losing new members that had interest enough to want to join the board in the first place, but eventually lost patience and gave up.
Just one wall scratching mutie's view, anyhow. :)
It's the lesser of two evils. Trust me: nobody wants the bad times to come back. The person we're referring to has a mental illness, in a way that is very specific to this comic and this message board. He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
Anyone who's new has this thread to say hello and to prove they are human. Hello, new people!
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
Particularly given that most of us old-timers ended up here as an alternative to the blighted wasteland that alt.comics.2000ad had become, largely (but not solely*) due to he-who-shall-not-be-named's behaviour on that newsgroup.
Cheers
Jim
*I certainly think he was the prime driver of the overwhelming sense of troll fatigue that drove many of us from the newsgroup, but I think the efforts of Thorin, NadiaZ and 'Chuckles' Hardwidge helped push the signal:noise ratio still further into the 'more trouble than it's worth' zone...
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 06 November, 2012, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
Particularly given that most of us old-timers ended up here as an alternative to the blighted wasteland that alt.comics.2000ad had become, largely (but not solely*) due to he-who-shall-not-be-named's behaviour on that newsgroup.
I've only ever seen that as his own odd arena for his opinions, it's weird to think it was ever anything else. He seems to have abandoned it now, maybe we should recolonise it so folk like
Newt, Rusty and
Fish have some kind of venue for their views on the prog, Meg and film.
I guess all forums and communities will have their trolls and e-drama- truth be told . I can understand though the need to keep trolls, especially persistent ones out, but maybe loosen the standards a bit? Or at least give some opportunities for newcomers to post more to show that they aren't here to stir the pot.
Quote from: FinH on 06 November, 2012, 08:06:26 AM
If I watch anything on YouTube I have to keep my eyes from straying too far down the screen in case I accidentally espy the comments section and lose the will to carry on living. I'm a devotee of the magazine Empire and regularly use IMDb but will have nothing to do with the commenting aspects of either as there will inevitably be droves of dickheads flocking to them too.
Sorry if I'm coming off as a precious flower but I have little time for such people. I'm taking a chance with 2000AD as I sort of imagined it as a utopian happy family of people who all love what I love where I can gambol merrily about without fear of being drivelled at.
I'm glad that the organisers are taking steps to make this a possibility and if I have to wait a bit before I can access some bits then that's fair enough by me.
I know exactly what you mean mate, resisting the temptation to jump into an argument just to give some lousy troll or personal comment a piece of your mind only to find that you have sold a part of your soul by stooping to their level is damn near impossible to say the least. I would feel a lot better if sites like youtube gave their members the choice of turning the comments off all togeather, like how a youtuber can disable them on his own uploaded video.
I'm personally picking my spots with this place. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome forum and the people are well friendly, but lately I have been getting the impression that I've turned a few people off through my enthusiasm and poor choice of words. And that is not just this forum by the way, I am generally shy, nervouse and impulsive in real life.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 06 November, 2012, 12:12:37 PM
I tried to warn the Empire mods at the start, but was basically told to go away and mind my own business - so drokk them, I say!
The Empire forum is really great, but their only problem is the constant influx of spammers and trolls. I feel if they had a similar system to yours it would really help to cut down on these twats. but its still going on even as we speak....
Its all good, this is the standard on a lot of message boards. You start off slow and move your way into the big kids pool . lol Just glad to be here
Quote from: Judge Savage on 07 November, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Its all good, this is the standard on a lot of message boards. You start off slow and move your way into the big kids pool . lol Just glad to be here
welcome!! come on in the water loverly... and most of us don't even bite!! ;)
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
It's the lesser of two evils. Trust me: nobody wants the bad times to come back. The person we're referring to has a mental illness, in a way that is very specific to this comic and this message board. He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
Anyone who's new has this thread to say hello and to prove they are human. Hello, new people!
If it's the same prick I've noticed on certain message boards regarding comics and film, then I'd say he's a bit of a head case too. Does he constantly go on about Garland being a hack and that the film was poorly written?
Surely if you're deemed to be a spammer or a troll, then you should get a ticking off for doing so, then if you persist a ban is warranted? Can the mods not just check the IP address of new posters and tell where they are from? I suppose a proxy server could circumvent that?
Quote from: Rusty on 08 November, 2012, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
It's the lesser of two evils. Trust me: nobody wants the bad times to come back. The person we're referring to has a mental illness, in a way that is very specific to this comic and this message board. He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
If it's the same prick I've noticed on certain message boards regarding comics and film, then I'd say he's a bit of a head case too. Does he constantly go on about Garland being a hack and that the film was poorly written?
You're a very perceptive young man,
Rusty.
Quote from: sauchie on 09 November, 2012, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 08 November, 2012, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
It's the lesser of two evils. Trust me: nobody wants the bad times to come back. The person we're referring to has a mental illness, in a way that is very specific to this comic and this message board. He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
If it's the same prick I've noticed on certain message boards regarding comics and film, then I'd say he's a bit of a head case too. Does he constantly go on about Garland being a hack and that the film was poorly written?
You're a very perceptive young man, Rusty.
LOL so that is him. Jesus, he's persistent, isn't he?
I signed up a couple of weeks ago, waited to post my opinions on the prog and now it seems I've got to prove my humanity before I'm allowed to say anything. Slightly frustrating but I guess it's probably necessary given what I've seen on other boards/social spaces.
Anyways: Hi I'm Andy, I'm an animator and my first prog was 838.
In more not-a-spam-bot news:
It had an Armoured Gideon cover, contained a Garth Ennis Muzak Killer story, Firekind, Purgatory and probably the first Tharg's Terror Tale which gave me the chills and affected me more than any other comic strip (I was 8 at the time)
Quote from: Rusty on 09 November, 2012, 12:24:36 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 09 November, 2012, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Rusty on 08 November, 2012, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Trout on 06 November, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
It's the lesser of two evils. Trust me: nobody wants the bad times to come back. The person we're referring to has a mental illness, in a way that is very specific to this comic and this message board. He kills forums. We won't let him try to kill this one again.
If it's the same prick I've noticed on certain message boards regarding comics and film, then I'd say he's a bit of a head case too. Does he constantly go on about Garland being a hack and that the film was poorly written?
You're a very perceptive young man, Rusty.
LOL so that is him. Jesus, he's persistent, isn't he?
It's more that he's mentally ill. If it wasn't such an anti-social illness we might feel sorry for him.
Quote from: Andy Smart on 09 November, 2012, 02:27:09 AM
I signed up a couple of weeks ago, waited to post my opinions on the prog and now it seems I've got to prove my humanity before I'm allowed to say anything. Slightly frustrating but I guess it's probably necessary given what I've seen on other boards/social spaces.
Anyways: Hi I'm Andy, I'm an animator and my first prog was 838.
I'm not entirely sure what are the standards as to when the noobs are allowed to mix with the general populace. Is this by approval from moderators/admins or is there a certain post and/or forum time threshold? I've noticed I can post in some of the general sub-forums now when I originally couldn't. Or at least I think I couldn't. It's all muddled to me now.
That was one of the general points I was trying to make earlier. It's not that anyone objects to going through a screening or assessment type process, but without any indication as to what the requirements are to prove ones-self, or even a rough approximation on how long doing so could generally be expected to take, it is like being caught up in some kind of limbo, without having any idea when, or even if, you'll move on to the next phase of existence.
Can't the newbies at least be allowed to update their avatar? I feel naked without one. Internet forums in general usually tend to follow the same rules regarding newbies. Low post count and lack of avatar = lower life form to be treated with caution, or sometimes not very seriously. :lol:
Was there a spammer on here the posted rude pics in his avatar or something?
I have brought this to the attention of mods with more superpowers than me.
Quote from: Judge Fish on 09 November, 2012, 11:12:05 AM
That was one of the general points I was trying to make earlier. It's not that anyone objects to going through a screening or assessment type process, but without any indication as to what the requirements are to prove ones-self, or even a rough approximation on how long doing so could generally be expected to take, it is like being caught up in some kind of limbo, without having any idea when, or even if, you'll move on to the next phase of existence.
Anyone have any light they can shed on this, as I've been wondering the same thing? I also agree with the fella who was asking about new members being able to post an avatar: it sort of feels like we're considered so below the radar and inconsequential that there's no point visually distinguishing us from one another...
Quote from: FinH on 10 November, 2012, 01:30:51 AM
Quote from: Judge Fish on 09 November, 2012, 11:12:05 AM
That was one of the general points I was trying to make earlier. It's not that anyone objects to going through a screening or assessment type process, but without any indication as to what the requirements are to prove ones-self, or even a rough approximation on how long doing so could generally be expected to take, it is like being caught up in some kind of limbo, without having any idea when, or even if, you'll move on to the next phase of existence.
Anyone have any light they can shed on this, as I've been wondering the same thing? I also agree with the fella who was asking about new members being able to post an avatar: it sort of feels like we're considered so below the radar and inconsequential that there's no point visually distinguishing us from one another...
Damn. Something needs to change here...and while you're at it please
please have a proper edit button - those are my only gripes with the forum. :-\
The noobs need their own call-me-kenneth to cause some trouble :lol:
But yeah some clarifications would be nice. And avatars.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
I have brought this to the attention of mods with more superpowers than me.
Thanks Rich, I have no idea why you can't so will try and resolve that now. Have sorted out most in this thread, if you've not been upgraded it's down to post count.
Don't take the delay personally peeps, it's not the easiest situation to moderate ;)
Cheers,
W
Cheers mods! :)
Quote from: w3bz on 10 November, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
Thanks Rich, I have no idea why you can't so will try and resolve that now. Have sorted out most in this thread, if you've not been upgraded it's down to post count.
Don't take the delay personally peeps, it's not the easiest situation to moderate ;)
Cheers,
W
Thanks for the action and clarification, much appreciated.
Indeed, many thanks. Now I feel like a real boy. Wait, that didn't sound right... :P
Seal the gates! Seal the gates! Too late, they're in! Nooooooo!
;)
Cool. So is this the part where I rip off my mask, scooby-doo style, and then start attacking the new film, bashing Alex Garland's writing talents, complain about lack of scope with absolutely no regard paid to the realities of low to mid budget film making, and go on and on and on about how my own script would be a million billion times better, but how those fools just wouldn't listen to me? ME!?!?! And then I repeat the same crap over and over and over again, while insulting everybody around me, and generally sucking any enjoyment out of the room every time that I appear?
No?
Good.
Because that would make me an absolute, insufferable dick. And no one wants to be that guy. I mean even a somewhat too sarcastic fish has some standards... :P
Quote from: Judge Fish on 11 November, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
Cool. So is this the part where I rip off my mask, scooby-doo style, and then start attacking the new film, bashing Alex Garland's writing talents, complain about lack of scope with absolutely no regard paid to the realities of low to mid budget film making, and go on and on and on about how my own script would be a million billion times better, but how those fools just wouldn't listen to me? ME!?!?! And then I repeat the same crap over and over and over again, while insulting everybody around me, and generally sucking any enjoyment out of the room every time that I appear?
No?
Good.
Because that would make me an absolute, insufferable dick. And no one wants to be that guy. I mean even a somewhat too sarcastic fish has some standards... :P
Lol! :D
Quote from: Judge Fish on 11 November, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
Cool. So is this the part where I rip off my mask, scooby-doo style, and then start attacking the new film, bashing Alex Garland's writing talents, complain about lack of scope with absolutely no regard paid to the realities of low to mid budget film making, and go on and on and on about how my own script would be a million billion times better, but how those fools just wouldn't listen to me? ME!?!?! And then I repeat the same crap over and over and over again, while insulting everybody around me, and generally sucking any enjoyment out of the room every time that I appear?
No?
Good.
Because that would make me an absolute, insufferable dick. And no one wants to be that guy. I mean even a somewhat too sarcastic fish has some standards... :P
Amen.
As sad as this sounds, all the mystique surrounding this guy makes me want to read his posts. Can someone post some links so I can judge for myself? I'm imagining some sort of demented man child akin to Chris Chandler or is that being kind?
I'm afraid his posts were subsumed into the user account named "Thread Zero". It may have been a technical problem or it may have been a temporal anomaly. You decide.
But if you want to read some of Scott's stuff (and that was lies madness), search the members' list for Thread Zero and sift through some pages. Alertantively, you could look at some of the earliest threads in the "general" section. There's a lot of his crap there.
Quote from: Trout on 12 November, 2012, 01:20:58 PM
I'm afraid his posts were subsumed into the user account named "Thread Zero". It may have been a technical problem or it may have been a temporal anomaly. You decide.
But if you want to read some of Scott's stuff (and that was lies madness), search the members' list for Thread Zero and sift through some pages. Alertantively, you could look at some of the earliest threads in the "general" section. There's a lot of his crap there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFZh92MUOY
Quote from: Trout on 12 November, 2012, 01:20:58 PM
I'm afraid his posts were subsumed into the user account named "Thread Zero". It may have been a technical problem or it may have been a temporal anomaly. You decide. But if you want to read some of Scott's stuff (and that way lies madness), search the members' list for Thread Zero and sift through some pages. Alternatively, you could look at some of the earliest threads in the "general" section. There's a lot of his crap there.
Bear in mind though, that what
Trout said earlier about him being mentally ill wasn't a figure of speech. Anyone who's read his nonsense for any significant period of time could offer you a layman's diagnosis of OCD, autism and manic depression. In the very short time I've known of him I've witnessed two episodes of complete mental breakdown, one of which I found terrifying even though I was only reading words on a screen.
He once confessed to me - then deleted the post - that the only reason he uses such extremity of expression is because of a pathological fear of being ignored or dismissed, and an inability to express himself and interact with others in any other way. Such serious emotional and psychological problems must be socially crippling, and it doesn't take an empath to imagine what kind of treatment someone like him would have received at school, and what a limited existence he must lead.
I've gone from finding his bizarre obsession hilarious to actually finding it quite tragic and feeling a sense of responsibility toward someone so obviously vulnerable - and wondering why the people who care for him allow him to spend his time doing something which only fuels his mania and allows him to keep damaging himself over and over again.
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 November, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
I have brought this to the attention of mods with more superpowers than me.
Looks like your request came through for I just recently got access to the film discussion.
Cheers to you and to the LAW...er, I mean mods!
I came across he-who-shall-not-be-named's works after spotting some reference to him in the aintitcoolnews comments. I was always aware that the internet had all sorts of people but some of the stuff that he had written really made it clear that there are people with problems who have internet access. Looking at some deserted forum which was full of nothing but posts by a single user reminded me of an entry on a cracked.com list (no. 5 , http://www.cracked.com/article_18792_the-7-most-unintentionally-creepy-places-internet.html).
I can certainly see the necessity for troll fences but think I can also imagine the attrition rate of new members must be higher because of it.
Quote from: DW2012 on 19 November, 2012, 07:59:55 PMhttp://www.cracked.com/article_18792_the-7-most-unintentionally-creepy-places-internet.html
Thanks for making my bedtime reading
truly chilling. Maybe I'll leave the light on.
good thing i checked that link mid day.
Quote from: DW2012 on 19 November, 2012, 07:59:55 PM
I was always aware that the internet had all sorts of people but some of the stuff that he had written really made it clear that there are people with problems who have internet access.
half these nutjobs probably aren't doing it from home, whenever i've been at a library doing research for a paper or whatever,the people sitting around you...arrghh!
and whats a scojo?
I think we can be certain that freedom of speech and right to one's opinion has been completely buggered when these sort of emotionally unstable people are granted access to a worldwide social network like the internet, spamming the hell out of the social communities and possibibly causing more emotional problems for even more emotionally unstable people who happen to be reading their gibberish(and not the Fringe World dialect mind you). What baffles me is with places like facebook, twitter and youtube feeling the pitch of these problems, how come are forums like this place the only ones doing SOMETHING to stamp out the problem?
Hell, it's not just people with problems who are trolls. Some of them are just downright fucking evil and nasty. I remember reading some news column where a families son committed suicide and spammers somehow got a hold of the family web adress and bombarded them with e-mails mocking their sons suicide with various videos and comments. These sort of people are scum and I am repulsed at the fact that they are allowed to cause such emotional harm to people and get away with it.
More bedtime reading: Something Awful's Weekend Web (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/)
Some of it's funny, some just downright depressing. But be wary. There's a survey of a message board for paedophiles. That one will make you lose all faith in humanity.