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Title: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Buttonman on 13 October, 2012, 07:33:06 PM
Not a great cover for me - the Anderson is nice but the rest looks like a pre-teen's art collage.

Bad news from the Editor is that the Meg is going monthly from it's present 4 weekly format - 1 less Meg a year!

Dredd in 'Ratfink's Revenge' was OK - the scabby one finds the undercity as do some other iso-cube escapees. The Troggies come worst off as always and Dredd does his 'Captain Captured' routine once again.

Anderson takes on another mad cult in another abandoned church - nothing much here.

Snapshot is turning into a long exposure and I'm past the caring and looking forward to the wrap up which is happily next month.

Dredd's 'Killer Elite' is a load of old nonsense but fun stuff. Basically it's 'Crusade' with crims with a touch of 'The killing' amply sprinkled about.

Still to to the reading bits but 4 pages on the TMNT is 4 too many for me.

Nothing stands out this month but an enjoyable read nonetheless.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 13 October, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
I was thinking of taking out a double subscription for Christmas. Does this mean that you lose a meg for the same subscription price?

Signed

A tight-fisted get.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Buttonman on 13 October, 2012, 09:01:30 PM
Nah, they'll either reduce the rate or make the sub 13 months long. This is my assumption and by no means fact!

My subs lable says what the last issue I've paid for is, not the date so, that would make sense.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 13 October, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 13 October, 2012, 09:01:30 PM
Nah, they'll either reduce the rate or make the sub 13 months long. This is my assumption and by no means fact!

My subs lable says what the last issue I've paid for is, not the date so, that would make sense.

Thanks Buttonman. That does makes sense.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Richard on 14 October, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
I thought that the competition runner-up was the best text story we've had in the Megazine yet.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: James Stacey on 15 October, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: Buttonman on 13 October, 2012, 07:33:06 PM
Snapshot is turning into a long exposure and I'm past the caring and looking forward to the wrap up which is happily next month.

Unfortunately its making way for more American Reaper isn't it? Which is going to drone on even longer with the Megs new schedule. One glossy, plastic faced chase scene could last up to six months.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
I'm getting a sense that right now might not be the best time for a meg sub.

Please guide me oh wise heads of the forum.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 October, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
Nah. Wait till Strange and Darke return's, then jump on. That series is a sizzler.  ;)
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 15 October, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
Nah. Wait till Strange and Darke return's, then jump on. That series is a sizzler.  ;)

Any idea when that starts Hawk? What's the premise of S and D anyway? I've only ever read the prog really.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 15 October, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 15 October, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
Nah. Wait till Strange and Darke return's, then jump on. That series is a sizzler.  ;)

Any idea when that starts Hawk? What's the premise of S and D anyway? I've only ever read the prog really.
Nothing confirmed yet (as far as I know, await's pleasent surprise) but some time next year as a guess. The first series cocnluded around May this year, so a second series should be just be in the pipeline (hopefully). It was a hit on here and it was left open ended so we'll 95% be seeing a follow up soon.

SoD is kinda like the old Kolchak series. A mix of X-Files, Doctor Who, Hammer Horror and a healthy dollup of Quatermass. It deal's with supernatural being's in Dredd's world, the first series being about about the titulare heroin's encountering Goat God's (Styx....Styr....I forget) in 22nd century Wales.
It was a wonderfully original series for a Dredd world tale, and I hope the second series is out there ASAP.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 15 October, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 15 October, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
Nah. Wait till Strange and Darke return's, then jump on. That series is a sizzler.  ;)

Any idea when that starts Hawk? What's the premise of S and D anyway? I've only ever read the prog really.
Nothing confirmed yet (as far as I know, await's pleasent surprise) but some time next year as a guess. The first series cocnluded around May this year, so a second series should be just be in the pipeline (hopefully). It was a hit on here and it was left open ended so we'll 95% be seeing a follow up soon.

SoD is kinda like the old Kolchak series. A mix of X-Files, Doctor Who, Hammer Horror and a healthy dollup of Quatermass. It deal's with supernatural being's in Dredd's world, the first series being about about the titulare heroin's encountering Goat God's (Styx....Styr....I forget) in 22nd century Wales.
It was a wonderfully original series for a Dredd world tale, and I hope the second series is out there ASAP.

Thanks Hawk. I appreciate the guidance fella.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 09:23:56 AM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
I'm getting a sense that right now might not be the best time for a meg sub.

Please guide me oh wise heads of the forum.

I buy it for the good stuff which to me is worth the cover price. An extra Dredd or 2 a month, usually 2 good Dreddworld strips, and occasionally a floppy I'll want to re-read. If you're lucky the creator owned slot will have something thumpingly good. Lily Makenzie was great, as was Number Cruncher. Snapshot is very pretty but feels like a film pitch / storyboard more than a story and in my personal opinion American Reaper is just plain terrible (other peoples opinions vary). Some months you can rejoice in the magnificence of the Meg, other months its just OK. It's still only the price of a couple of pints a month and there is always something good in it.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 16 October, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 09:23:56 AM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 15 October, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
I'm getting a sense that right now might not be the best time for a meg sub.

Please guide me oh wise heads of the forum.

I buy it for the good stuff which to me is worth the cover price. An extra Dredd or 2 a month, usually 2 good Dreddworld strips, and occasionally a floppy I'll want to re-read. If you're lucky the creator owned slot will have something thumpingly good. Lily Makenzie was great, as was Number Cruncher. Snapshot is very pretty but feels like a film pitch / storyboard more than a story and in my personal opinion American Reaper is just plain terrible (other peoples opinions vary). Some months you can rejoice in the magnificence of the Meg, other months its just OK. It's still only the price of a couple of pints a month and there is always something good in it.

I am ready to bite for a sub but wanted to time it for maximum enjoyment which is probably an impossible science I know. I only came on board at Christmas so I am heavily reliant on the good advice of people like yourself.

I haven't a baldy about American Reaper but it seems to have gathered a lot of adverse comment. It starts this month doesn't it?
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
We have another month of snapshot yet to come I believe. My (well documented on here) problems with American Reaper was the pace. Fairly routine story spread a great distance over many months of Meg. Lots of (beautifully rendered) splash pages, which I'm sure will look good in a glossy hardback edition but just feel like a waste of space when you are limited to so many pages a month. Oh and then the pseudo 'Rock band' 'The Darkness' appeared in it and it went even further down in my eyes. Its very pretty once you can get over the fact every person looks like Clint Langley wearing a wig.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 16 October, 2012, 01:57:09 PM
Im not going to bother to try and sell american reaper to anyone, but i loved it. It's typical pat mills and painted by clint langley- there is literally nothing not to love.

As for the meg itself, ive often felt in the past that it's a terrible waste of money- for years on end. However, not at the moment. Even with snapshot, which i stopped reading ages ago and which i find as inuriating as others seem to find american reaper, it's a big fat dose of quality comics and features about our favourite medium. Long may it continue, and molch-r's comment on the other thread about the loss of an issue per year being unrelated to the health of the comic cheers me up no end.

SBT
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2012, 01:59:59 PM
Did he say why the Meg's down an issue per year? I would have assumed it a resources thing (given that Matt Smith oversees much of the 2000 AD output now and must be stretched).
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Distribution.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 16 October, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Distribution.
Ah, yes, just saw him replying to a surprisingly relentlessly negative (of late) Mr Rennie in the Dredd thread.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Hoagy on 16 October, 2012, 02:11:34 PM
We have a load of Megs in the WHSmith in  town today. All of them have the floppy bagged on the front cover face. Obscuring the the title, the identification of the Meg completely.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 October, 2012, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
...a surprisingly relentlessly negative... Mr Rennie in the Dredd thread.

Surprisingly? Has he ever been anything else?
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Mabs on 17 October, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Hoagy on 16 October, 2012, 02:11:34 PM
We have a load of Megs in the WHSmith in  town today. All of them have the floppy bagged on the front cover face. Obscuring the the title, the identification of the Meg completely.

Thats a bummer. Imagine all the those new Meg-ites trying to look for it, and getting scared off by the floppy's intimidating cover! :D
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Hoagy on 17 October, 2012, 09:15:39 PM
That may have been so if the floppy wasn't facing back cover outwards.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Mabs on 17 October, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: Hoagy on 17 October, 2012, 09:15:39 PM
That may have been so if the floppy wasn't facing back cover outwards.

Oh dear! Now thats what you call a total cock-up! :D
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Mabs on 21 October, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
JUDGE DREDD MEGAZINE #329

COVER: A nice pop arty kinda wrap around cover. Liked the vibrant colours, and Anderson looks kinda hot in that pose.

JUDGE DREDD; REVENGE OF RATFINK PART 2: I have to say that Tiernan Trevallion's artwork is simply superb. I love his style, its very evocative of Mignola's style (which i've mentioned before). Also is it me, or did that reporter guy in the opening page look like Gaff from Blade Runner? As for the story - I 'm really enjoying it. I love the underground setting of the story in this epsiode. Ratfink is as ever, a snivelling, slippery customer - and Dredd always seemingly one step behind.

TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES SPECIAL: I was a huge fan of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as a kid, I loved the cartoon show, as well as the movie which came out at that time. I remember it being huge deal - me and my cousin collected all the stickers for the sticker album at that time like two crazed muties - we woshipped TMNT! Reading this piece bought back some childhood memories. As an adult I have failed to go back to TMNT, so it was an interesting piece showing how the characters have developed over the years. The mass appeal that these charadcters still possess. After reading it, I tracked down the IDW comic for TMNT over at Comixology, it was a nice read I have to say, thanks in part to this article. At four pages it may seem too much, but I went through it really swiftly.

AN ACE OPPORTUNITY: a look into the online comic weekly created by V for Vendetta legend David Lloyd. Its really interesting to see all the talent on board this project, doing it out of love for comics rather than money - and some cool ideas too. You can count me in.

ANDERSON PSI DIVISION PART 3: I have to say i'm really warming to Boo Cook's artwork. I love the detail he puts in his drawings and especially the way he draws Judge Zeff's ass! :D The story was quite enjoyable, things are definitely getting more weirder, not to mention bloody.

SNAPSHOT: I have no idea as to what the hell is going on here! :D, that aside the black and white artwork by Jock is really nice.

COMPORTMENT BY JOHN WARE: really enjoyable short story by Mr. Ware.

JUDGE DREDD KILLER ELITE PART 2: I wasn't too keen on this story at first, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I loved the whole Lunar setting, and the 'brotherhood' of psycho's amassed there! :D The artwork by Paul Marshall is really great, looking forward to next months instalment.

So overall a good programme. As for the floppy.......it was bloomin' fantastic!

FINN: I was pleasantly surprised with this story! After reading the Ratfink floppy last month and loving it, I thought this months one wouldn't hold - but boy was I wrong! It was an absolutely hilarious story, complemented by Jim Elston/ Kevin Wick's excellent artwork. 'The Shining Ones' (who are quite blatantly modelled on the Freemasons!) were the real comedians with their barmy rituals! Their secret handshake had me in stitches! :D I also felt Pat Mills was trying to equate them to the (Tory?) goverment. And Finn was seen as the everyday working class hero -he reminded me of the other British comicbook icon, John Constantine. Seeing as this is Book One, I wonder when we'll get to see the continuation of this comic as I cannot wait to find out what happens next - especially going on that last panel!

So overall, another enjoyable Meg! Bring on next month!




Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Zarjazzer on 21 October, 2012, 02:11:05 PM
Another good Meg. Ratfink art I wasn't so keen on the first page for some reason but the rest was excellent. Haven't read the short story as yet.Anderson was also good and along with Ratfink had bits in the undercity. yay!

Killer Elite was my fave with more bonkers killers a blasting each other and Dreddy showing them who was boss. Nice creepy last panel like in the first Dredd story.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: NapalmKev on 21 October, 2012, 02:33:03 PM
Quality Meg, enjoyed all of it (Snapshot is alright really, it's just a bit slow).

Highlight this month was the mighty Finn: remember this from the first time around and I think it's aged very well. Great character, great artwork, all we need now is a new series (Please).

Great stuff,
Cheers  :)
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Leigh S on 21 October, 2012, 03:19:32 PM
Ratfink continues the tradition of Wagner introducing a potentially brilliant new character and some other geezer coming along and screw it all up (see DeMarco over in Simping, though admittedly, Robbie Morrison did the initial work)

Snapshot has lost my interest entirely and the Rennie Marshall Dredd thing feels oddly like those late era Daily Star Dredd ideas... maybe because it feels like a bit of a spin on various strips of the past aimed at a wider audience less likely to be familiar with the source? Dont know, but not feeling that one either...

Anderson - how many times has Anderson been back under assessment?  Please make it stop.  Never thought I'd think it but outside of Millar/Morrison/Steelgrave era madness, Alan Grant has cemented himself as my least fave Dredd/Dreddworld writer.  And looking back, it now feels like way too big a chunk of his stuff fits the profile, with the exception of a few early Dredds like John cassavettes is Dead.

Whens American Reaper back?  More to the point, when is Wagner, or at the least Ewing, back?
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 October, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
Okay cover, good dredd with some proper craziness... But yes, the character of ratfink- creepy and evil and actually quite threatening in the original- seems watered down here and a figure of some fun. Second dredd was forgettable, anderson better than expected, but boo cook's art seemed to go to an awful lot of trouble to tell a very simple and familiar story. Snapshot unread, turtles thing unread, text story will be read later as will the david lloyd thing- but the absolute highlight was FINN. Why this is a floppy and not between harder covers and costing me sixteen quid is a mystery- but rebellion have made a mistake here, i reckon. 'A pagan nightmare from the writer of SLAINE' splashed across the front cover would surely flog copies? It is, of course, magnificent and hilarious ('hello sailor!'), has beautiful art and tells what should have been the start of a series still running today. I have no idea why it was stopped, but im grateful for the chance to read it again.

SBT
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Woolly on 22 October, 2012, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 21 October, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
...the absolute highlight was FINN. Why this is a floppy and not between harder covers and costing me sixteen quid is a mystery- but rebellion have made a mistake here, i reckon. 'A pagan nightmare from the writer of SLAINE' splashed across the front cover would surely flog copies? It is, of course, magnificent and hilarious ('hello sailor!'), has beautiful art and tells what should have been the start of a series still running today. I have no idea why it was stopped, but im grateful for the chance to read it again.

SBT

^This^

Bit disappointed we're not getting book 2 next month - Downlode Tales? (sigh) if we must...
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 22 October, 2012, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 21 October, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
...the absolute highlight was FINN. ...I have no idea why it was stopped, but im grateful for the chance to read it again.

It was an ultimatum from David Bishop, wasn't it? I seem to remember that he thought Finn and Slaine were too similar to both be in the comic, so told Mills to pick one to continue and to ditch the other.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: James Stacey on 22 October, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
I always felt Finn was just Slaine with a P90 so I was with the Bishop on that one.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Greg M. on 22 October, 2012, 02:39:50 PM
Given the choice, I'd've preferred if he'd kept going with Finn and ditched Slaine, to be honest. From my perspective, Slaine's story was virtually over (I'm with the 'it ends with the Horned God' camp) whereas there was plenty more could have been done with Finn. I really didn't like the story with the Crusadeer in it, mind you.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 October, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 October, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
I always felt Finn was just Slaine with a P90

Well, you've got to keep your tax straight when you move between jobs, reincarnated or not.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Skullmo on 25 October, 2012, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 October, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 October, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
I always felt Finn was just Slaine with a P90

Well, you've got to keep your tax straight when you move between jobs, reincarnated or not.

Cheers!

Jim

I don't think Finn of Slaine would pay tax! They would hire advisors to avoid it by channeling their income through to another time.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Woolly on 25 October, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
Quote from: Skullmo on 25 October, 2012, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 October, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 22 October, 2012, 01:24:32 PM
I always felt Finn was just Slaine with a P90

Well, you've got to keep your tax straight when you move between jobs, reincarnated or not.

Cheers!

Jim

I don't think Finn of Slaine would pay tax! They would hire advisors to avoid it by channeling their income through to another time.

KISS MY TAX!






I'll get me coat...
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: DrJomster on 27 October, 2012, 08:56:49 PM
Gotta give some love for page 3 of Ratfink. Gorgeous art throughout, but this page was particularly fine, with one panel inset within the other full page one. Ratfink's nose sniffing out ratty style mixed really well with the detailed full panel around it.

Have to say I'm very happy to be a Meg subscriber. Roll on next month!

I'd be interested to see if it becomes available digitally like the prog. I wonder if the creator owned material makes this impossible though?

Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 October, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
Prodigal, if yer still reading - I say just get the subscription, if they meg doesn't float your boat by this time next year then go prog only again. It's more often than not brilliant, informative and as stuffed full of good stuff as the weekly. I started reading a year and a half after I picked up the prog in 2001 and haven't looked back. For one it never seems to retain the same format for very long which KEEPS YOU ON YOUR TOES.

Cover -- Anderson

I noticed that McCarthy recruited Len O'Grady for colouring assistance little way in to Zilk, which improved it no end - not sure the ins and outs of what he did but there was a lot more subtlety in it with him there. Here the colours are bold, blaring and not a little dated. The "front" part of the wraparound is alright but the back is very murky. Could've used O'Grady again maybe!

Judge Dredd -- Ratfink's Revenge: Prt. 2

Whereas I agree that this doesn't hold a candle to Ratfink's first appearance - it has got a brilliantly madcap cast and benefits highly from the absurdly brilliant Trevallion who is easily the best Thargfind in the last few years. Everything has acres of texture and depth. I want to eat that kind of stuff. Although I will say - Dredd's respirator at the end doesn't come from his helmet badge? OOOOOOOOHHHHH.

Comicana -- Turtle Recall: TMNT

Didn't need four pages for this. Although given Dredd's now stablemates with the TMNT property I can kind of see why it's here. Never really had any affection for the franchise really, it's dumbly  appeal stripped out by years and years and YEARS of dilution. Let's pray the same never happens to Dreddy eh? CHUNKY ANIME DREDD SERIES COMING NEXT YEAR.

New Comics -- An Ace Opportunity: Aces Weekly

I literally can't express how behind this I am. I've got the SMALLEST attention span, so three pages a week is actually starting to quite work for me - plus the array of talent, the cheapness and the passion has utterly bowled me over. Also - anyone who is in any doubt that Henry Flint is one of the most creative and productive artists in 2000ad history need look no further than what he's doing for this. I'm flying the Aces flag high.

Anderson PSI Division -- Stone Voices: Prt.3

I've sort of lost track of where this is going really - I agree with other reviewers that this feels like it's been done a few times before. Boo's art is as flashy and fabulous as ever, still playing "guess the face" on auld Anderson though. In one panel she looks like one of my old lecturers in the most disconcerting way.

Snapshot: Prt.8

After last month's snappy part this dragged a little. Perhaps Snapshot'll work a bit better read in one bit, but episodically this one was far too weighty compared to the last. Also the more dialogue the more you're a little more fucking aware how Simon fucking Spurrier the script fucking is. It's not a CONTEMPORARY THRILLER unless we swear lots!

Judge Dredd -- Comportment (Fiction)

Ware's Comportment is very bloody good. Finer than some of the pro stuff we've had in the fiction section before. It ends a little damply but it feels incredibly rigid. More from John Ware I say!

Judge Dredd -- Killer Elite: Prt.2

AH. So that's why there was that disclaimer....because of the very-similiar-to-Day-of-Chaos plaguething. Definitely lends an air of "who cares" now that it's clear that such a thing couldn't possibly come to pass. Marshall's art is a little wonky but Bove's greytones add some nice depth to it - although there are a few strong Craddockesque strong textures here and there.

Finn -- Book One

This is one of those few older thrills that I've never actually read - VERY Mills, and it's both strong and weak for it. Ends a bit sheepishly but there's some powerful madness in there that's very appealing - Jim Elston ad Kevin Wicks' overdriven art is both appealingly lavish and frustratingly cartoony. Shamefully as well I didn't even spot a difference between the two artists. So, I'm in two minds about it really. It's nice to have a thrill cemented in the briny south western fringes though - I'd be interested in seeing the second book reprinted.

There. That's it. Always a mixed bag, never a dull one. I was proud to renew my subscription last month for the both of them and I'll follow the meg as loyally as I do the prog!
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 30 October, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Coming back to this thread, and FINN- regarding david bishop's ultimatum re it and slaine, i am suddenly reminded of a collossal know-it-all i used to know in the early?/mid? nineties, who swore 2000AD was going to launch a monthly title called 'THE NEW AGE', to be created and edited by pat mills, which would feature slaine, finn, a "life of ar-tur the bear, who you might know as king arthur" (his words, "might know"! Wanker!) and some "feminist strip about a wartime witch protecting london from the blitz".

Obviously never happened, but was there any truth in it i wonder? Or, as i suspect, was he a delusional penis?

SBT
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 30 October, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 30 October, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
...some "feminist strip about a wartime witch protecting london from the blitz".

Hmm... no idea, but that certainly seems to ring a bell...
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 30 October, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 October, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
Prodigal, if yer still reading - I say just get the subscription, if they meg doesn't float your boat by this time next year then go prog only again. It's more often than not brilliant, informative and as stuffed full of good stuff as the weekly. I started reading a year and a half after I picked up the prog in 2001 and haven't looked back. For one it never seems to retain the same format for very long which KEEPS YOU ON YOUR TOES.

Cover -- Anderson

I noticed that McCarthy recruited Len O'Grady for colouring assistance little way in to Zilk, which improved it no end - not sure the ins and outs of what he did but there was a lot more subtlety in it with him there. Here the colours are bold, blaring and not a little dated. The "front" part of the wraparound is alright but the back is very murky. Could've used O'Grady again maybe!

Judge Dredd -- Ratfink's Revenge: Prt. 2

Whereas I agree that this doesn't hold a candle to Ratfink's first appearance - it has got a brilliantly madcap cast and benefits highly from the absurdly brilliant Trevallion who is easily the best Thargfind in the last few years. Everything has acres of texture and depth. I want to eat that kind of stuff. Although I will say - Dredd's respirator at the end doesn't come from his helmet badge? OOOOOOOOHHHHH.

Comicana -- Turtle Recall: TMNT

Didn't need four pages for this. Although given Dredd's now stablemates with the TMNT property I can kind of see why it's here. Never really had any affection for the franchise really, it's dumbly  appeal stripped out by years and years and YEARS of dilution. Let's pray the same never happens to Dreddy eh? CHUNKY ANIME DREDD SERIES COMING NEXT YEAR.

New Comics -- An Ace Opportunity: Aces Weekly

I literally can't express how behind this I am. I've got the SMALLEST attention span, so three pages a week is actually starting to quite work for me - plus the array of talent, the cheapness and the passion has utterly bowled me over. Also - anyone who is in any doubt that Henry Flint is one of the most creative and productive artists in 2000ad history need look no further than what he's doing for this. I'm flying the Aces flag high.

Anderson PSI Division -- Stone Voices: Prt.3

I've sort of lost track of where this is going really - I agree with other reviewers that this feels like it's been done a few times before. Boo's art is as flashy and fabulous as ever, still playing "guess the face" on auld Anderson though. In one panel she looks like one of my old lecturers in the most disconcerting way.

Snapshot: Prt.8

After last month's snappy part this dragged a little. Perhaps Snapshot'll work a bit better read in one bit, but episodically this one was far too weighty compared to the last. Also the more dialogue the more you're a little more fucking aware how Simon fucking Spurrier the script fucking is. It's not a CONTEMPORARY THRILLER unless we swear lots!

Judge Dredd -- Comportment (Fiction)

Ware's Comportment is very bloody good. Finer than some of the pro stuff we've had in the fiction section before. It ends a little damply but it feels incredibly rigid. More from John Ware I say!

Judge Dredd -- Killer Elite: Prt.2

AH. So that's why there was that disclaimer....because of the very-similiar-to-Day-of-Chaos plaguething. Definitely lends an air of "who cares" now that it's clear that such a thing couldn't possibly come to pass. Marshall's art is a little wonky but Bove's greytones add some nice depth to it - although there are a few strong Craddockesque strong textures here and there.

Finn -- Book One

This is one of those few older thrills that I've never actually read - VERY Mills, and it's both strong and weak for it. Ends a bit sheepishly but there's some powerful madness in there that's very appealing - Jim Elston ad Kevin Wicks' overdriven art is both appealingly lavish and frustratingly cartoony. Shamefully as well I didn't even spot a difference between the two artists. So, I'm in two minds about it really. It's nice to have a thrill cemented in the briny south western fringes though - I'd be interested in seeing the second book reprinted.

There. That's it. Always a mixed bag, never a dull one. I was proud to renew my subscription last month for the both of them and I'll follow the meg as loyally as I do the prog!

Crazy I am still reading and genuinely always glad of the advice. The missus wants to buy me a double sub for Christmas and gentleman that I am I think I will let her.

Thanks fella.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: SuperSurfer on 30 October, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 October, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
Anderson PSI Division -- Stone Voices: Prt.3
...still playing "guess the face" on auld Anderson though. In one panel she looks like one of my old lecturers in the most disconcerting way.

Boo Cook's Anderson:

Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Dandontdare on 30 October, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 30 October, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Coming back to this thread, and FINN- regarding david bishop's ultimatum re it and slaine, i am suddenly reminded of a collossal know-it-all i used to know in the early?/mid? nineties, who swore 2000AD was going to launch a monthly title called 'THE NEW AGE', to be created and edited by pat mills, which would feature slaine, finn, a "life of ar-tur the bear, who you might know as king arthur" (his words, "might know"! Wanker!) and some "feminist strip about a wartime witch protecting london from the blitz".

Obviously never happened, but was there any truth in it i wonder? Or, as i suspect, was he a delusional penis?

SBT

The bloke probably met someone who'd got pissed with Pat Mills once, 'cos all of that DOES sound like something he might do!
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Goaty on 01 November, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
Wow, that's great Meg, Ratflink, so crazy that all at same place in Undercity, would it be link to Anderson's story??

Love Judge Dredd- Killer Elite and I like this single image...

Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: M.I.K. on 07 November, 2012, 04:31:24 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 30 October, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 30 October, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
...some "feminist strip about a wartime witch protecting london from the blitz".

Hmm... no idea, but that certainly seems to ring a bell...

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/4435/the_magical_battle_of_britain.html (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/4435/the_magical_battle_of_britain.html)
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2012, 12:57:54 PM
acht, Mixed up the end of my subbie so only just got this, sory to say not worth the wait,


I think Anderson should be quietly dropped UNLESS something new is done with her, its just the same old same old, but with a regular vist to the facechanging machine, in an amazing re-reflection of the movie Dredd character in the comics progresses while Anderson's stay static, she may as well have stayed in the Boing, for all that has happened to her.

The Dredd tales are all a bit similar to things we've seem before and shows just what doesn't work ( for me) when there is a tick list of previously seen perps and locations that don't bring something new to the draining slab.

Turtles?  poking out and touching cloth...

Slapshot could have ben a tight slick five parter but seems to have been one looooong car chase, looking forward to the end in a nice way, dreading the return of the sexy osctriches

Great letters page... all my recent moans and whinging have been quietly filed in the round folder I think, better get back to the brown-nosing :D


Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: mygrimmbrother on 07 November, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 October, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
Marshall's art is a little wonky

Yeah, what's going on there... occasionally it looks like he's skewed the faces in photoshop, just dragging one corner so the perspective is, well, wonky. Why? I've noticed this before with Marshall, but it seemed particularly pronounced in this episode.

Also Finn - I remember this from the first time around but after a quick flick through I thought the art looked so hideously dated I couldn't bring myself to re-read it.

I don't enjoy moaning (honest) but next month's Meg is going to be my last. I'm going to see Snapshot out and hopefully the last part of Ratfink, then I'm cancelling the sub before American Reaper returns. Feel slightly less guilty now that it looks like Prodigal is taking one out!  ;)
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
I've just renewed mine and happy to, even with the sexy orsereich returning, its still worth it for the monthly thrill of a double thump on a satruday every four week ( or monthly whatever)
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 07 November, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
Quote from: mygrimmbrother on 07 November, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 30 October, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
Marshall's art is a little wonky

Yeah, what's going on there... occasionally it looks like he's skewed the faces in photoshop, just dragging one corner so the perspective is, well, wonky. Why? I've noticed this before with Marshall, but it seemed particularly pronounced in this episode.

Also Finn - I remember this from the first time around but after a quick flick through I thought the art looked so hideously dated I couldn't bring myself to re-read it.

I don't enjoy moaning (honest) but next month's Meg is going to be my last. I'm going to see Snapshot out and hopefully the last part of Ratfink, then I'm cancelling the sub before American Reaper returns. Feel slightly less guilty now that it looks like Prodigal is taking one out!  ;)

I have never read American Reaper but boy does it divide opinion on here. I rely on you guys big time for guidance on all things but this one has me all over the place.

I'm nervous about jumping on the meg at the worst time.
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 November, 2012, 06:59:40 PM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 07 November, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
I'm nervous about jumping on the meg at the worst time.

Honestly Prodigal just go for it, if the meg's not your cup of tea you've got a WHOLE year to mull it over - there'll be plenty of other stories in there to mix it up and even if, like some people on here, you DESPISE Reaper it won't run for the whole 12 issues (probably). Who's to say you won't UTTERLY LOVE IT! Dive innnnn!
Title: Re: MEG 329 - UNHOLY TERRORS
Post by: The Prodigal on 07 November, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 07 November, 2012, 06:59:40 PM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 07 November, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
I'm nervous about jumping on the meg at the worst time.

Honestly Prodigal just go for it, if the meg's not your cup of tea you've got a WHOLE year to mull it over - there'll be plenty of other stories in there to mix it up and even if, like some people on here, you DESPISE Reaper it won't run for the whole 12 issues (probably). Who's to say you won't UTTERLY LOVE IT! Dive innnnn!


:) You're probably right mate. As you say who knows? Might even love it.