His is GOLD I tell ya.
Over at The Beat they have a linkie to parts of a script Rob Liefeld has written for a movie about the rise of Image. Just read the 'Bye Bye Marvel' scene its hilarious. Its funny that it might even be true. I REALLY hope that's how it happened!
http://www.dreammoviecast.com/dream-movies/exclusive-rob-liefeld-icons-screenplay-image-comics-casting-picks (http://www.dreammoviecast.com/dream-movies/exclusive-rob-liefeld-icons-screenplay-image-comics-casting-picks)
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http://comicsbeat.com/chris-pine-is-rob-liefeld-in-icons-the-image-comics-story/#comments (http://comicsbeat.com/chris-pine-is-rob-liefeld-in-icons-the-image-comics-story/#comments)
So we can put 'screen-writing' next to 'drawing' on the list of things Rob Liefeld doesn't know how to do...
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 January, 2013, 03:16:58 PM
So we can put 'screen-writing' next to 'drawing' on the list of things Rob Liefeld doesn't know how to do...
Cheers
Jim
Yet you could put 'entertain' top of the list of things he does know how to do...
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 24 January, 2013, 02:48:22 PM
Over at The Beat they have a linkie to parts of a script Rob Liefeld has written for a movie about the rise of Image. Just read the 'Bye Bye Marvel' scene its hilarious. Its funny that it might even be true. I REALLY hope that's how it happened!
Wow that's awesome, this is a comic book movie I would watch.
I don't know why all the hate for Liefeld, there's much worse artists working on mainstream comics today *cough* Steve Dillon *cough*.
Quote from: sheldipez on 24 January, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
I don't know why all the hate for Liefeld, there's much worse artists working on mainstream comics today *cough* Steve Dillon *cough*.
You're directly out of your fucking mind.
Steve Dillon has forgotten more about anatomy than Rob Liefeld has ever known. See also: the ability to hit a deadline; construct a perspective; draw clothes; draw expressions other than 'straining against chronic constipation'; having any understanding of how 3D space works.
Cheers
Jim
Steve Dillon is unbelievably good when it comes to depicting facial expression.
You may or may not like Preacher but the facial expressions and body language Steve draws inform the characters just as much as Ennis's script.
Quote from: sheldipez on 24 January, 2013, 04:34:33 PM
I don't know why all the hate for Liefeld, there's much worse artists working on mainstream comics today *cough* Steve Dillon *cough*.
SERIOUSLY?!?
QuoteI don't know why all the hate for Liefeld, there's much worse artists working on mainstream comics today *cough* Steve Dillon *cough*.
Ahahahahahahahaha! Good one!
On another note, that script must surely be a hoax?
Steve Dillon's costumes don't have nearly enough pouches and ammo belts. :D
More to the point, Dillon can actually draw clothes that look like clothes.
Liefeld just draws weird approximations hoodies that you can see the wearer's six-pack through, and spray-on trousers.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1185116/prv9172_pg4_medium.jpg)
But will Liefeld's script address the claims he used to take other people's artwork and essentially trace over it before claiming it as his own? Or his obsession with giving people late 90s era Michael Jackson-style noses? Or drawing characters that look like Cable over and over? The way men he illustrated could be clean shaven until action began, and then they had a couple of day's worth of stubble? I really do hope he provides us with these answers.
FA-FOOSH!
Quote from: JamesC on 24 January, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Steve Dillon is unbelievably good when it comes to depicting facial expression.
You may or may not like Preacher but the facial expressions and body language Steve draws inform the characters just as much as Ennis's script.
You can't beat a bit of Preacher, yet Dillon's recent work on Thunderbolts felt like it was from a completely different Steve Dillon, lack of perspective, complete lack of detail, simplistic figures whose faces all look like The Punisher (even Elektra) Liefeld's [slowly] improved over the years where as Dillon's seem to have done the opposite (IMO! :D) and I'll be jumping back on for #7 when Phil Noto takes over.
Liefeld still can't draw feet though.
I do agree that Dillon seems to be drawing a lot of men with the same face these days but I still rate him as the better artist.
Quote from: sheldipez on 24 January, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
...Dillon's recent work on Thunderbolts felt like it was from a completely different Steve Dillon, lack of perspective, complete lack of detail, simplistic figures whose faces all look like The Punisher (even Elektra) Liefeld's [slowly] improved over the years where as Dillon's seem to have done the opposite...
Totally agree. And Dillon's STILL the better artist by a rather large lunar mile, which says it all really.
For all those Liefeldians out there, I follow at least 20 people on DA that draw better comics than the guy. When fan artists are turning out better shit than the 'proffesionals' you know something is wrong.
Steve Dillon can draw feet. And most other things very well indeed, Liefield may have a style all his own and he has done very well with it (in that he has made his own comics etc) but I wouldn't have him in quite the same category as Dillon.
I still bought Brigade though. ::)
This film's going to be comedy gold possibly on par with The Room ("You're tearing Marvel aaappppaaarrrttt!!!").
I hope whoever directs it makes the actors wear lots of pouches and never shows their feet.
Well lets face it he's writing MacFarlane as though he was (wearing pouches etc)
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 24 January, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
For all those Liefeldians out there, I follow at least 20 people on DA that draw better comics than the guy. When fan artists are turning out better shit than the 'proffesionals' you know something is wrong.
This. The small press is full to the brim of artists with more tenacity and ability than Liefeld's got in his smallest most badly-drawn finger. The fact that he's in any way influential is as funny as it is depressing.
Quote from: CrazyFoxMachine on 25 January, 2013, 04:01:42 PM
This. The small press is full to the brim of artists with more tenacity and ability than Liefeld's got in his smallest most badly-drawn finger. The fact that he's in any way influential is as funny as it is depressing.
I've said this repeatedly in sundry Liefeld-related debates up and down the internet over the years. Do I know Liefeld? No. Am I making any judgement on his worth as a human being? No. Can I admire his acumen as a businessman whereby he makes a metric fuckton of money with no discernible talent whatsoever? Yes.
It's possible to do
all of these things and still lament the message he sent to a generation of comic fans and wannabe artists which was that learning to copy a tiny number of stylistic tics from other, better comic artists was a viable substitute for
learning to fucking draw.At the end of the day, however, people will like what they like (and are perfectly entitled to do so -- I'm not criticising anyone's taste in comics*) and Liefeld's books still shift in quantity, so we get the industry we deserve.
Cheers
Jim
*People who like Liefeld seem to get up in arms when I say that he can't draw. He can't. That's a demonstrable fact. I've
never argued against someone's right to like Rob Liefeld books, but I can and will refute suggestions that he's a competent artist.
I can't draw worth a damn and always have that at the back of my mind when it comes to commenting on artists and their work. I always think that no matter how bad the piece in front of me it's 1000 times better than anything I could do. I don't think that with Leifield's work. Even at the age of ten (many years back now)I could see that his stuff was just dreadful. Give all of the men the same facial expression, massive guns and even bigger muscles. the women have to have big tits and porn-star facial expressions. Fuck that.
They should make a sequel to Evan/Bruce Almighty where Rob Leifeld gets god-like powers and makes everyone look like his drawings and removes their feet :lol:
Quote from: JamesC on 25 January, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
They should make a sequel to Evan/Bruce Almighty where Rob Leifeld gets god-like powers and makes everyone look like his drawings and removes their feet :lol:
Make it so!
Quote from: radiator on 24 January, 2013, 05:58:53 PM
More to the point, Dillon can actually draw clothes that look like clothes.
Liefeld just draws weird approximations hoodies that you can see the wearer's six-pack through, and spray-on trousers.
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1185116/prv9172_pg4_medium.jpg)
The Colouring on this all round turd of a page made my eyes bleed.
The script would work brilliantly if you cast Will Ferrell, Sacha Barenchoen and Steve Carell and that lot. Comedy gold