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I have put a small bit on Genghis Grimtoad by Wagner Grant and Gibson that appeared in Strip up on FB if anyone would like a look.

https://www.facebook.com/HiberniaComics?ref=hl (https://www.facebook.com/HiberniaComics?ref=hl)

Great art by Gibson, it would make a nice floppy ;)

Published 1982; I never knew Grimtoad was that old and McBride's art is the equal of Gibson's. How many issues did it run for in Look Alive?

Five issues only at two pages each. The title folded then. Mc Bride was a great artist but did more illustrations, he did a lot of full and half page pictures for Look and Learn.
There is another story that eventually popped up in 2000ad that was due to appear in Look Alive, shameless pimp that I am, it will be in the new Comic Archive coming soon!!!!

They weren't reprinted in the Marvel collected edition (http://www.comicvine.com/chronicles-of-genghis-grimtoad-1-gn/4000-219399/) which seems a shame.

Quote from: maryanddavid on 07 July, 2013, 11:09:09 PM
There is another story that eventually popped up in 2000ad that was due to appear in Look Alive, shameless pimp that I am, it will be in the new Comic Archive coming soon!!!!

Lemme guess, The Amazing Maze Dumoir ?

The pages were not reprinted because they belonged to McBride. McBride didnt want to continue with the story when the Marvel version came about, so they asked Gibson if he was interested. And no not Dumoir, something a bit more high profile.

I got the Marvel book two or three years ago on eBay, I hadn't heard of it before.
I mentioned it on Facebook and John Wagner noticed it and he, myself and SmallBlueThing had a bit of Facebook chat about it. SBT sent me the original issues of Look Alive too.

http://www.ian-gibson.com/Pages/Grimtoad.htm

some Grimtoad stuff at Ian Gibson's site.I'd never heard of this before now, but it looks absoloutely glorious.

I can't recall when I read this... ages ago... I had quite a few I see to recall. But what in???

It appeared in Marvel UKs line in 1990, it was cobbled together, but quiet a good answer to Crisis and Deadline. It reprinted the Epic Marshal Law, in UK format which showed the art off quiet well, European stuff like Storm by  Don Lawrence and Thorgal, as well as originalone off tales and The Man from Cancer, Grimtoad, Night Raven and Death Head too.
A decent title, and can be picked up cheap. Edited by Dabnet, this was the germ for Toxic, Strips tagline was 'The comic grows up' Toxics was ' The comic throws up'!

Quote from: maryanddavid on 11 July, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
It appeared in Marvel UKs line in 1990, it was cobbled together, but quiet a good answer to Crisis and Deadline.

It was far more entertaining than those two- sad that it went since it was a good back-up to 2000AD and a lot better than Revolver.

I loved Strip - all the content was new to me, but it did lack any kind of focus or identity of its own after Marshall Law finished, which they acknowledged by trying to replace him with Punisher reprints and new Death's Head stories.  A bit too expensive for its time, too, and I laugh at its regular publication schedule - LAUGH! - because you can't call a comic Strip and have it come out on time, that just confuses people.

Quote from: maryanddavid on 11 July, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
It appeared in Marvel UKs line in 1990

That'll likely be where I read it... back up story in something? I remember really liking it wherever I read it...

The punisher stuff was OK, but there was more epic stuff that they could have got at the time, , Moonshadow, The Black Dragon, The last American would have been perfect if it had come out in time.

If you'd combined the best bits of Strip, Crisis, Revolver, Deadline and Toxic you'd have had a really great comic. As it was, all those different, middling titles put an awful strain on my paper round money and my patience as a reader. The tagline david mentions - The Comic Grows Up - does remind you how keen publishers were at that time to crack the perceived adult audience for comics; an audience which Crisis editor Steve MacManus admits (in David Bishop's Thrillpower Overload) was never there in the first place.

Your spot on sauchie, although I think Deadline, at least the first 20 or so issues were decent enough reads, and didn't preach to the converted as much as Crisis and Strip and  found it's own adult audience.
I have 20 issues of strip, thanks in part to Colin IIRC. Does any know if there was more issues, there is a 'next issue' blurb in issue 20, but I can't find mention of issues past 20.

Quote from: maryanddavid on 13 July, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
Your spot on sauchie, although I think Deadline, at least the first 20 or so issues were decent enough reads, and didn't preach to the converted as much as Crisis and Strip and  found it's own adult audience.
I have 20 issues of strip, thanks in part to Colin IIRC. Does any know if there was more issues, there is a 'next issue' blurb in issue 20, but I can't find mention of issues past 20.

Aye, I've great affection for the version of Deadline that was printed on toilet paper and featured an odd grab bag of ideas and subject matter. I've just checked, and my haul of Strip goes all the way up to number seven - I assumed the comic was cancelled then, but from your post it seems my local newsagent just stopped stocking it. I was used to the odd pre-internet phenomenon of a title I followed just disappearing from the shelves without a final issue that wrapped up all the stories or explained that the editor's work on Earth was done and now he must return to the stars.

I'm worried now that someone's about to tell me that what I thought was the last issue of Toxic (no. 31) was just a blip in distribution, and there are another dozen issues out there featuring Colin MacNeil's wonderful art on The Road To Hell which I'm going to have to track down on ebay.

The early Deadlines were great. Tank Girl was a load of bollocks but stylishly drawn, and Philip Bond's Wired World and D'Israeli's Timulo were fabulous (You can buy the collected Timulo from D'Israeli via Lulu (http://www.lulu.com/shop/disraeli-demon-draughtsman/timularo-the-complete-timulo/paperback/product-13838024.html), and it's well worth the tenner).

I have meant to pick up that Timulo book for a while, on the to do lost!

I have put up a few more 2000ad bits on Hibernia's Facebook page if anyone would like a gander.

https://www.facebook.com/HiberniaComics?ref=hl