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The Main Man LOBO is sadly set to be transformed into a sub Twighlight looking character despite the desperate attempt to say otherwise. Ah, well next generation and all that.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2013/08/lobos-new-look-might-not-be-as-twilight-y-as-everyone-fears/

That's NOT the main man. *seethes in pointless fan boy rage* They say that this version is a concept and their version is  "bigger and nastier".

I hope so I don't see the baddest bastich ever being very convincing as um, that, fine enough as an illustration though it is.

I suppose I should reserve judgment but that would be reasonable and mature all the things the internet and myself aren't, and why bother when I can shriek about this now?

There must be a factory churning out nefarious PR-bots.

Well, they have to do something with Lobo seeing as he's an anachronism in a DCU where Superman shoots people's heads off with his heat vision.  He used to be a reaction to the DCU, or at the very least an atypical example of its residents, but these days his schtick is just par for the course and I can understand why they need to go somewhere else with him.

Although isn't this his second reboot since the Nu52 started?

Found this on FB :)

Art by Pietro Antognioni

filip

Oh fuck that!

Based on that image they're gearing up for a movie then.

 That's definitely not Main Man... Now this is a bit more like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ooZYjF0mI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ooZYjF0mI)  :D

Stew.

I thought spandex Constantine was bad enough.

Bloody hell they didn't put John C in Lycra did they?! That's as bad as casting Keanu Reeves as the demon hunter.

As bad as Reeves version was it's head and shoulders above the crap in the New 52.

Crap JC after stealing Shazams power.
Script and Art by who gives a fuck.

filip

Holy Crud! That is bad ....  :o

 :o Terrible , haven't really looked at the new 52 but I'm really glad I never got that atrocity. Perhaps they thought it was an amusing joke? Or ironic? Big fail. :(

IMHO it's much worse than the LOBO re-do.

Quote from: flip-r mk2 on 03 September, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Crap JC after stealing Shazams power.
Script and Art by who gives a fuck.

Yeah. That genuinely is just shitting all over any concept of the character. DC really is devoid of any clue these days.

Cheers

Jim

That take on Constantine looks . . .hideous. There's really no other word for it.

At least DC are re-releasing the Garth Ennis run on Hellblazer as graphic novels, so anyone who wants a more accurate take on the character have somewhere to go.

That -thing!  Constantine looks like a 1970's Disco Queen dammit.

So so WRONG!

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 04 September, 2013, 10:37:46 AMDC really is devoid of any clue these days.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batwoman-authors-exit-claim-dc-621274

Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 05 September, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batwoman-authors-exit-claim-dc-621274

Shouldn't really be surprised. This is the DC of Dan DiDio, who only wants to sell comics to 45-year old men, and Bob Harras, the man who dicked Chris Claremont around so much he walked off the X-Men.

Thoroughly depressing, though.

Jim

Given what this objectively looks like, I think it's only fair to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it isn't homophobia and is in fact some marketing-led reasoning like "marrying characters makes them old and/or hard to relate to."  Coincidentally, Dan DiDio recently went out of his way to state that that Orson Scott Card Superman story was definately seeing print one way or another.

I struggle to think of anything that DC have done right concerning the New 52. Maybe the Wonder Woman series? I've heard good things about it.

In general I think it's been an excersize in celebrating mediocrity and generally missing the point of characters.
John Constantine is a good example as is Shazam (or Captain Marvel, which should be the most joyful and irreverent super hero title on the stands and IMHO a no brainier for a continuity light, all ages comic) and the two seem to have collided in some kind of clusterfuck abomination.

If I could give Dan DiDio a piece of advice (ok, ok, I know I have no experience of editing comics but indulge me) it would be that sometimes simplicity is a good thing. Nice simple costumes beat these JimLee monstrosities any day and there's no reason at all for Superman, Batman or Green Lantern comics need to be as complicated and overblown as they are.

Oh, for the days of Grant/Breyfogle Batman! Speaking of which the debut of the all new Ventriloquist is out this week.

Batman has been fantastic under Synder and Capullo's reign. I've enjoyed first two trades of Batwoman too so sad to hear that team go.

Justice League should have been their flagship title but the first six issues was pretty lacklustre beyond Jim Lee's pencils (which I adore), it felt too much like DC's take on X Men with the general public prejudice against the superhumans.

DC as a company are totally lost. I don't know which is more amazing that they think 3D covers, pull out posters and gatefold covers is a selling point outside of 1995 or there's suckers actually scrabbling about trying to collect them all up.

I read all of the Bat titles for the first year and gave up on them. They were just too meandering and sort of reverent of the Bat mythos.
I'm not a fan of all this Bat omen, history of Gotham stuff either. It was interesting to see what Morrison was doing with it but in general I think it makes the character less interesting. He should be Batman because he's self made and a bit of a nutter, not because it was preordained by some Bat shamen or whatever.

I thought the bat-omen stuff was great... back in the early 1990s when Peter Milligan did it.

Thanks for reading and explaining this stuff to me, so I don't have to suffer through it myself, guys. Is that really how John Constantine looks now, or just something funny that happened once?

Quote from: sauchie on 05 September, 2013, 07:04:03 PM

Thanks for reading and explaining this stuff to me, so I don't have to suffer through it myself, guys. Is that really how John Constantine looks now, or just something funny that happened once?

Yeah was just a temporary thing taken out of context. He's not a cigarette smoking superhero or anything in NEW 52. Hmmmm. Wonder if I can pitch that to Didio.

Don't worry everyone - the final Lobo is much more manly than the concept design  :lol:

Apparantly this is actually Lobo's third reboot since the New 52 relaunch.

Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 11 September, 2013, 11:38:17 AM
Apparantly this is actually Lobo's third reboot since the New 52 relaunch.

And I have "re-booted" my lunch 2 out of 3 times.

Has anyone read it? Was it any good of so?  :-*

More importantly, does that appear to be our very own Ben Oliver drawing that pic of some foppish lad, with some other buggers' inks'n'colours?  He of Cockroaches and that Synamon cover?  On Justice League no less, so.  Fair play, if it's him.

Quote from: Zarjazzer on 02 October, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
Has anyone read it? Was it any good of so?  :-*

Depends on your point of view on LOBO.

It was pretty much a CW version of the character.

Make of that what you will.

Well I quite like Arrow... :-\

I should try it and see. But what look like disco lights on him... :o

Didn't JL 23.2 have the 'normal' Lobo on the cover?  :|

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 04 October, 2013, 08:34:44 AM
Didn't JL 23.2 have the 'normal' Lobo on the cover?  :|

I thought that the premise was there are two Lobo's, with skinny-Lobo coming to claim the throne as the one true Lobo.

Quote from: sheldipez on 04 October, 2013, 09:06:50 AM

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 04 October, 2013, 08:34:44 AM
Didn't JL 23.2 have the 'normal' Lobo on the cover?  :|

I thought that the premise was there are two Lobo's, with skinny-Lobo coming to claim the throne as the one true Lobo.

Not read it so was just adding to the pot. Sounds about right and I might pick it up for a laugh.

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 04 October, 2013, 08:34:44 AM
Didn't JL 23.2 have the 'normal' Lobo on the cover?  :|
yeah... [spoiler]that image was just a holo of the "fake LOBO" that showed up towards the end of the comic. Real Lobo is now headed to earth to kill that one but it looks like that plot is gonna get waylaid by Lobo running into Supergirl[/spoiler][/b]

Well I read it and was pleasantly surprised, how dare they interrupt my fan boy rage with a quite decent stab at the character?
[spoiler]And indeed it may be that the new design is not the main man.[/spoiler]
::)

At least it will be Tony Bedard doing the Supergirl/Lobo story arc. That at least offers some hope.