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Title: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: lwhitehead on 25 October, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
Hi I need to know the sources of the Nikolai Dante comic and it's setting?,



LW
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 25 October, 2013, 10:27:46 PM
Oh, good. You again.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 October, 2013, 10:29:42 PM
 :lol: I've just been re-reading the 'Hapsburgs' thread. Good times.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Dash Decent on 25 October, 2013, 10:41:17 PM
Mainly tomato, but sometimes he used HP source.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: TordelBack on 25 October, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
You kids play nice now y'hear.

LWhitehead, your question is a huge one, since it's safe to say that Dante draws on just about everything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to The Adventures of Luther Arkwright, and from the Flashman books to the Carry-On films. 

A good place to start might be former editor David Bishop's history of 2000AD, Thrillpower Overload, which has a short account of the genesis of the Dante strip.  Other info is distributed through various interviews with Robbie Morrison and Simon Fraser appearing in the Judge Dredd Megazine and online.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 October, 2013, 10:48:05 PM
TB truly is the best of all of us.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: TordelBack on 25 October, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 25 October, 2013, 10:48:05 PM
TB truly is the best of all of us.

Tell that to the badgers.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Frank on 25 October, 2013, 11:00:55 PM

If you give this pamphlet a quick read you'll understand everything you need to know:

http://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Vintage-Classics-Tolstoy/dp/1400079985

Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 26 October, 2013, 12:33:01 AM
As far as I recall, Robbie Morrison took this concept as his starting point: 'What would of have of had happened if it was had of have had of been Han who got the lightsaber?'
Something like that, anyway
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Richmond Clements on 26 October, 2013, 02:27:23 AM
At the talk he gave at the Dundee comics day a couple of years ago - he basically said that he'd have been happy if Dante was actually set in pre-revolution Russia - but added the sci-fi element to sell it to 2k...
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: The Adventurer on 26 October, 2013, 02:38:03 AM
Frankly I'm not sure how much I would have enjoyed Nikolia Dante without its sci-fi elements. Though I'm sure it would have been structured a lot differently.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Alski on 26 October, 2013, 10:29:05 AM
Will there be hamburgers?
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: radiator on 26 October, 2013, 04:17:42 PM
I've thought in the past of making an annotations thread for Dante. Obviously the setting, factions and characters are heavily based on those of pre-Revolutionary Russia, but there's a lot more to it than that, including hundreds of nods to modern pop culture, everything form Carry on films to Watchmen and classic British comics. There's probably enough to fill a companion volume.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Mardroid on 27 October, 2013, 12:51:13 AM
Errol Flynn (or should that be the characters played by him) seems quite a major influence too.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: Mabs on 27 October, 2013, 08:14:39 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 26 October, 2013, 02:38:03 AM
Frankly I'm not sure how much I would have enjoyed Nikolia Dante without its sci-fi elements. Though I'm sure it would have been structured a lot differently.

The sci-fi elements are what makes it such a visually impressive strip. And there are very few who can conjure up sci-fi vistas as good as Simon, some of his future (albeit influenced by the old) settings left me stunned on several occasions. Same goes for his work on Lilly MacKenzie. It adds so much to the story so I'm glad Simon and Rob went that route.
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: lwhitehead on 07 June, 2014, 09:30:30 PM
The real reason I wanted to know is that I planed to create an Space Opera series set in a future were there are the reborn 17th Century royal houses, my Hapsburg thread was a good idea for that comic but since it's over I'm moving on hense the Space Opera idea.


LW
Title: Re: What were the sources for Nikolai Dante
Post by: ZenArcade on 07 June, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Something like Dune then?