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Title: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Mangamax on 06 February, 2003, 06:08:49 AM
So the Daredevil movie's a 15. Finally an action movie that's not copping out and suffering cuts to make it a 12A. About bloody time too - getting sick of people bringing their 5 year old sprogs along just so they couldn't be arsed to get a babysitter.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 06 February, 2003, 06:43:08 AM
Ha, I remember the good old days when the slightest bit of violence got you a big red 18, like for the original Terminator. A surprise when I saw Jaws being mentioned on Film 2003 and it's a 12 now, when it was an 18 at the cinema(actually I think the old 'X' certificate - I'm sure Ed will tell us).

Then Batman got the first 12 and then it was 'trim' the violence to the lower certificate and get a mass audience

Then old 'Oww the Exocist, it's horrible' went and down came the barriers and you can now have 9 min graphic rape scenes un-cut. Though trimming still goes on - Clones was minus a head-but to get its certificate.

However, no matter how liberal we are now, I'm still baffled how Dog Soldiers wasn't an 18... had the censors had a long lunch break down the pub or something. How violent do you have to be to get an 18 nowadays?
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Buddy on 06 February, 2003, 06:54:00 AM
Have to say I'm really looking forward to DAREDEVIL (chech ximoc.co.uk for more opinion).

From what little I've seen it just looks the part. Dark, gritty, violent ooohhhh can't wait.

And I like the costume.

I'll have a full review on ximoc.co.uk just as soon as I've seen the film. Keep watching the skies.

THE HULK on the other hand looks like a pile of pish.

Link: ximoc.co.uk

Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Devons Daddy on 06 February, 2003, 11:42:57 AM
yes daredevil looks great.dark and gritty from the little  thats been realeased.costume looks good.
looking forward to this one.

 as for hulk it was always slightly a younger target audience though wasnt it, i think it may be more mass appeal .my son wants to see it.
hell if manages to get more kids into comics then thats a great thing.
but upon saying that.,im a huge fan of the director. i will rest judgement until i see the finished result.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 06 February, 2003, 12:05:46 PM
The place:Birmingham city centre.

The man: Daredevil.

Poster for the film, with a LIFE SIZE mannakin (sp?) standing on top!!!

best ad I have ever seen for a film.

rotts
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Mangamax on 06 February, 2003, 02:19:46 PM
We've got the version 2 trailer of the Hulk now and - i dunno. Its cut real quick but there's a lot of him and doesn't feel right.
Sure, he's about 8 feet tall, built right, has the "handsome face" perfected by Gary Frank during the Peter David era and does lots of Hulk stuff (swinging a tank round and round by its barrell then letting it go) but i can't get excited by it.
Maybe the ghost of the tv series is still hanging around?
Title: why iraq is a just war !
Post by: judge dreddd on 06 February, 2003, 02:21:09 PM
We must help the usa to stop oil funding of extremist ismal terrorists ( saudi is next ya know ), we must ensure that all women have the right to education,work,leave bad husbands,get drunk and sleep with short men, star in erotic films,dodgy pop videos ( oh yea tatu ).

And if a bunch of young men are willing to join up to follow orders no matter what then so much the better.

WAR WAR WAR WAR
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 04:05:33 PM
Interesting to note the responses to Hulk and Daredevil here - going on the calibre of the directors and leads, I'd reckon Hulk would be the better film.

To recap:

Daredevil: Dir. Mark Steven Johnson (Jack Frost, Simon Birch) starring Ben Affleck (The Sum of All Fears, Reindeer Games).

Hulk: Dir. Ang Lee (The Wedding Banquet, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon), starring Eric Bana (Chopper)

Time will tell, I guess...

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Marbles on 06 February, 2003, 04:11:32 PM
Yeh I have deep concerns about Daredevil given the pedigree of the people involved.
Its one of my favourite stories in all comic-dom so I'll be well unhappy if they screw it up.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Devons Daddy on 06 February, 2003, 04:23:01 PM
but they do tend to stick to the comics to a far greater degree these days. maybe a lesser director with lower? budget may well get his own way more readily. i think dare devil may deliver to us comic fan boys and hulk to the masses.

my son not interested in dare devil but the hulk he cant wait.he is six this month. as i say differnt target groups i feel.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Last of the V8's on 06 February, 2003, 04:38:44 PM
Jaws was rated A actually, or I wouldn't have got in to see it when I was 10.
Started my life long fasination with Great Whites and why Hook Jaw rocks.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 04:41:30 PM
If you like comics, NEVER watch the following:

? The Roger Corman-produced FANTASTIC FOUR (new FF movie to start this year, apparently)

? The pilot for the JUSTICE LEAGUE TV series

? CAPTAIN AMERICA

? PUNISHER (although that's being remade, apparently)

DO watch the following

? MYSTERY MEN (bit rubbish but better than almost everything else)

? THE SPECIALS (you cen get it from Blockbuster, it's basically Pete Milligan's X-STATIX: the movie)

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Oddboy on 06 February, 2003, 04:51:51 PM
The Terminator (18) had boobies in it as well as violence...
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Tex Hex on 06 February, 2003, 04:52:36 PM

Daredevil kinda looks like that Flash movie that was out feckin ages ago. All dark with hoodlums and the like, flashy red costume...

Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JimBob on 06 February, 2003, 05:33:39 PM
 ah the Captain America movie, thrill to the strangely Italian Red Skull, try not to piss yourself at the rubber wings on the side of Caps mask, try not to burn the video in horror.
 
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: The Monarch on 06 February, 2003, 07:20:48 PM
so what does everyone think in the apparent changes to the kingpin character then?
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Krakajac on 06 February, 2003, 07:48:48 PM
Kid, I was initially looking forward to this movie...but the characters have been changed drastically...Kingpin doesn't look anything like the real kingpin...looks more like that crime boss in Pulp Fiction.  The real Kingpin was/is a mountain of man.

Don't even get me started about Bulls-Eye.  I grew up reading Frank Miller Daredevil.  The original Bulls-Eye was something to behold.  The movie Bulls-Eye looks like a street pimp.

There, that feels better.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: W. R. Logan on 06 February, 2003, 08:14:40 PM
>? The Roger Corman-produced FANTASTIC FOUR

This is definately worth watching because it is so bad.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: The Monarch on 06 February, 2003, 08:16:31 PM
hee hee hee that looks pathetic saying that i did have the misfortune to see that ustice league pilot
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 10:06:01 PM
The story of it's in Titan's THE GREATEST SCI-FI MOVIES NEVER MADE, which I shall paraphrase thus:

When the production company realised they had about two weeks left before the license reverted, they hacked it out in roughly 4 days, giving rise to the immortal comment:

"I don't need it good! I need it by Tuesday!"

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 06 February, 2003, 10:43:22 PM
Re Bad Superhero movies...

Nothing quite beats that Spiderman and the Eye of the Tiger or whatever it was...

When I saw that at a right flea pit back in the early 80s as a double bill with Cactus Jack there was a problem with the projection after the first film and we had to watch a series of red and orange blobs on the screen for about 40mins until they fixed it... turned out to be better than the film
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 10:50:03 PM
Is that one of the Nicholas Hammond Spider-Movies?

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 06 February, 2003, 11:10:52 PM
Yeah Nicholas Hammond in Spider-Man: The Dragon's Challenge

Link: 4 out of ten...

Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 11:33:16 PM
Ha, I think my girlfriend got me that on video for my birthday last year (along with some, y'know, quite *good* pressies) ;)

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 06 February, 2003, 11:48:38 PM
Loved the Justice League pilot. That's probably due to my affection to the Giffen years that it was inspired by, more than anything else.

Yeah, Daredevil's cossie does look like the one from The Flash, which is actually the pilot for the T.V. series. There are another two Flash films out there, made by splicing two episodes of the series together. 'Nightshade' which is about an old hero coming out of retirement (bit of a Sandman clone) and 'Trickster' which has Mark Hammil as the eponymous villain, playing him more like the Joker than anything else. Worth looking for if you like the fan.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: JamieB on 06 February, 2003, 11:54:25 PM
Hammill is king of playing DC villains, innee?

J-Bo-1
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 07 February, 2003, 12:01:51 AM
This is true. I suspect that his Joker in the animated series, (he's played the Joker in three different D.C. based cartoons) was inspired by his turn in Flash.

His appearance as 'mysterious white faced grinning villain who we don't name but who shoots Batgirl' was definately inspired by his turn in the Animated Series.

Technically his appearance as a villain in the recent Scooby Doo cartoon about aliens counts as a D.C. villain as Scooby has a D.C. comic.

That makes four by my counting.

And the Cock Knocker is a non D.C. comic villain he's played.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: esoteric ed on 07 February, 2003, 12:46:53 AM
Just seen the Daredevil model on top of a Billboard here in LiverCool opposite The Grafton nightclub, great advertising... until someone steals it!


Ed
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: GordonR on 07 February, 2003, 01:29:27 AM
>>Just seen the Daredevil model on top of a Billboard here in LiverCool opposite The Grafton nightclub, great advertising... until someone steals it!

I'm sure it'll be perfectly safe.

The very idea of scousers thieving anything not nailed down is clearly ludicrious.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Mangamax on 07 February, 2003, 03:29:42 AM
Hey, the Thing was good...
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: esoteric ed on 07 February, 2003, 06:35:06 AM
Gordon, it's not nailed down, it's held on by rivets. I doubt it'll be there in the morning as the real workers brave the elements to get to work.... ;-)


Ed
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Tiplodocus on 07 February, 2003, 06:44:59 AM
The guy that plays KINGPIN is a pretty bulky boy - he was the big fella in THE GREEN MILE.  

And the gut that plays BULLSEYE is Colin Farrell - The Next Big Thing by all accounts.  He can act a bit as well.

I'd say don't judge it all on appearances - Michael Keaton made a better BATMAN than George Clooney or Val Kilmer who "looked" the part. (OK, it helped that he had scripts and stuff...)

And who would you rather have as a villain? Arnult in a million dollar suit playing Mister Freeze *looked* spot on. But compare him to a proper villain such as Mister Smith (Hugo Weaving) in The Matrix - no contest.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Devons Daddy on 07 February, 2003, 11:18:59 AM
i got money that the dare devil mannaquin is on ebay by the morning.as long as they can find a computer shop without iron shutters that is.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: almighty mat on 07 February, 2003, 02:55:18 PM
Has anyone ever seen the Nick Fury:Agent of SHIELD movie, starring David hasslehoff?
 The movie was a cheap spy 'thriller', but Hasslehoff was a legend, the cigar never left his mouth! Definitely his finest hour

mat
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Matt Timson on 07 February, 2003, 10:07:48 PM
Oh my good gorky!  This kind of thing just SHOULD NOT be allowed!!!

Just LOOK at the man...

I'd (almost) prefer to see him in a pair of red pants, tits tensed- with an airbrushed ab cage over his sucked-in gut.  The silly tw*t.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: esoteric ed on 08 February, 2003, 12:23:19 AM
Daredevil mannaquin as previously reported here has now disapeared!


Ed
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Yoda on 08 February, 2003, 02:17:17 AM
Even though I've been a huge DD fan since I was knee high I have to admit the films main selling point for me has to be Jennifer Garner in black leather :)

Michael Clarke Duncan is going to make a great Kingpin IMO. I don't particularly like Farrell but I think he could be good as Bullseye and with Affleck at least they got someone who knows the character inside out. I would have preferred Guy Pearce but Affleck looks pretty good in the trailers.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: almighty mat on 08 February, 2003, 02:27:46 PM
++Just LOOK at the man... ++

No, no, he was really good! I was surprised too, maybe he was a fan of the comics as a kid or sometrhing. He spent the whole film growling at people and smoking a cigar, and he didn't take his eyepatch off...

mat

Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 08 February, 2003, 02:30:35 PM
The model in B'ham is still there, not bad going, but it is on a busy intersection and opposite a police station.

The Nick Fury movie is watchable, bog std fare, but Hassellhoff is really okay.

The JLA movie is awful, but the Flash is played well IMHO

I liked the Punisher, it tried to play down a lot of the 'comic' elements and aimed for the action movie audience. I thought it was better than a lot of the action movies that year.

The cap/FF movies are terrible, but you have to watch them to really appreciate them.

Personally, I thought Mystery Men was brill. It isn't serious, and the tone is light. The whole package works a treat.

top thread folks.

rotts
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Devons Daddy on 08 February, 2003, 02:38:46 PM
The cap/FF movies are terrible, but you have to watch them to really appreciate them.

i have heard this helps a lot when telling others about your opionon of any movie.
thanks for the tip though.
:~)

Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Yoda on 08 February, 2003, 10:08:11 PM
OK I'll admit it - I own the Incredible Hulk tv series.

JLA was hilarious. The Flash tv series wasn't too bad. And what about those 70's Spider-Man films?
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Quirkafleeg on 08 February, 2003, 10:35:03 PM
>And what about those 70's Spider-Man films?

They were crap... and, though I've seen one for years, I suspect not even 'so bad it's good crap'.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 08 February, 2003, 11:26:48 PM
Actually there's nothing much wrong with the Spidey films, bar the decision not to have any Super-Villains (or people wouldn't believe them) and the fact that they are sooooo slooooow.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: judda fett on 09 February, 2003, 05:29:50 AM
They should have had the Flaming Carrot in the Mystery Men.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Yoda on 09 February, 2003, 08:36:32 AM
Agreed they were crap but I saw one again a few months back and I laughed my socks off!!
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Devons Daddy on 09 February, 2003, 09:47:17 AM
i got one of the spider man movies from the 70s on VCD for my son recently. he was bored stiff.
at the end of the first disc he he wandered off and got a power rangers epsiode to watch instead.
was it made for cinemas or made a made for TV movie at the time.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Mangamax on 09 February, 2003, 01:40:44 PM
They were part of a whole batch of dodgy American tv shows that had episodes transfered to 35mm and spliced together for release in european cinema's. A v. bad idea, up there with film versions of UK tv shows - i mean, TWO On The Buses films???
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 09 February, 2003, 03:10:28 PM
IIRC the Flaming carrot cold not appear due to there beng an option out on a solo film for the long orange vegetable hero.

He should have been in the film though.

ut!

rotts
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: judda fett on 09 February, 2003, 05:51:04 PM
Space bats! One of the best Flaming Carrots- when the Man inthe Moon comes down to earth to get rowdy and ruffhouse it...

On the subject of Spidey and Power Rangers there was a Japanes version of Spiderman with apparently tonnes more fighting (as you'd expect) and costumed super villains. Ive only ever seen some snaps of it though. Anyone know aymore?..  
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: judgejampot on 09 February, 2003, 11:16:38 PM
Jampots trivia time: Jampot was  in channel fives' recent documentary 'the spiderman story', representing the british under-16s fanboy league. I've got it on video (oh the embarasment).
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 February, 2003, 01:04:20 AM
Jampot: If it is that embarrasing, why tell us about it?

Sing it loud, I'm a geek and proud!

Rotts once appeared on local BBC morning show in a piece about Crisis, and gt to spend the morning with John Smith.  I Looked like a pillock, 'cause I didn't know he was overprovided in the gloves dept.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Marbles on 12 February, 2003, 05:01:15 PM
Saw Film 2003 last night. They had some clips of the film and it did look decidedly cheesy.

HOWEVER, Jonathon Ross (a big comic fan), seemed to love it and gave it the big thumbs up, so I will suspend my doubts and try to see a preview showing tmrw night...

He had a nice Elektra figure on his desk as well btw.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: The Monarch on 13 February, 2003, 04:59:53 PM
will be seeing it later today chaps
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: karne on 13 February, 2003, 05:08:15 PM
Me too! And 'cos it's a 15 the cinema should be annoying brat free.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: The Monarch on 13 February, 2003, 05:09:08 PM
yup hee hee hee
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: Malchidiel on 13 February, 2003, 07:12:57 PM
Me three! Just so long as I don't get some twat farting all the way through it, like I did at the aptly named Backdraft.
Title: Re: Yay for Daredevil!
Post by: The Monarch on 13 February, 2003, 09:04:32 PM
well seen it the fanboys will have a field day lemme tell you hee hee