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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: judgerussell on 04 May, 2014, 12:16:23 PM

Title: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: judgerussell on 04 May, 2014, 12:16:23 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit shit of people to sell the FCBD 2000AD at ridiculous prices?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-FCBD-2014-Free-Comic-Book-Day-Promo-Issue-MINT-HARD-TO-FIND-/331193559554?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item4d1cacaa02

I hope it's not a fellow boarder.

If you know them, name and shame them.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: hippynumber1 on 04 May, 2014, 12:18:37 PM
What a dick!
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: NapalmKev on 04 May, 2014, 12:23:36 PM
It's even listed as "hard to find". Like it wasn't readily available for free in Comic shops all across the land.

Even OMG Exeter had a few copies. Yes Exeter, where nobody loves comics (except me obviously).

Cheers
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 04 May, 2014, 12:47:26 PM
'spose there's nothing legal that can be done about that it's just very...


very very


very cheeky. Especially when Disposable Heroes still have copies and are flogging them for 99p (http://www.disposableheroes.co.uk/next-weeks-releases/other-publishers/fcbd-2014-2000-ad-special-net-/prod_53840.html)
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: ZenArcade on 04 May, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
 I'm not best happy about the selling of these on at any price; let alone what this f**king profiteer is at: Still, in my case, I'm to blame cause I didn't diarise the event and missed out for the second year running. Still bad form from whoever! Z
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 May, 2014, 01:29:13 PM
Trouble is if people still feed the beast they will keep doing it. If folk who missed out, often for all sorts of unavoidable reasons, could have a little patience they'll be a load of these floating around at 99p or less. I understand and sympathise with impatience, and have fallen victim of it myself in the past, but if, if, if by force of will people could avoid buying um at silly price the silly prices will go away soon enough.

Still dick move. Based on the fact that as he says they were going fast. If he saw that why did he pick it up rather than just leave it for someone who wanted it. I was tempted to get a couple so I could pass one on here, but since they were going like hot cakes felt that was a little unfair. Hope whomever got the one I 'left' has read and enjoyed it and even better is a newbee who might try out the regular comic.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: ZenArcade on 04 May, 2014, 01:31:25 PM
Fine post Colin. Totally endorse the last part. Z
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Fungus on 04 May, 2014, 02:51:51 PM
What a c**t. And what Colin said.

Haven't physically made one of the FCBD things. I know 2000AD especially does run out; is there
really no one-copy-per-customer rule enforced? I know that tweaks the nose of the spirit of the
whole thing, but....
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 04 May, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
As has been mentioned above, people can get them for 99p through certain means, which helps those who don't live anywhere near a comic shop.
I hope no-one buys that from this person and it just stays online for EVER!
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: mogzilla on 04 May, 2014, 03:31:37 PM
when my daughters finished her smurfs one i'll be accepting offers from £550 ;)
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 May, 2014, 05:26:39 PM
I really wanted a Smurfs one but my LCS didn't order any - damn their eyes!
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: mogzilla on 04 May, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 04 May, 2014, 05:26:39 PM
I really wanted a Smurfs one but my LCS didn't order any - damn their eyes!

well then when shes finished i'll try and remember to pm you
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Cpt Rhodes on 11 May, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
And the seller was from Glasgow? The shame of it :(
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Professor Bear on 11 May, 2014, 10:59:42 PM
You know what I hate?  Intolerance.

And the Dutch.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 11 May, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
You can't really blame someone for trying to make some money, and if someone is stoopid enough to pay what's being asked, I guess they had nothing better to do than spend money (rather than, say, look for a cheaper copy elsewhere.

That said, I hope no one is stoopid enough to buy the comic off him. (or has someone?)
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 11 May, 2014, 11:14:35 PM
I left one in bluemeanie's room for him at Bristol, as I knew he couldn't get it!
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 May, 2014, 11:39:40 PM
What the f**k, we're tying to understand this mercenary prick now! Look folks we have limited evidence; a sense of indignant justification; a general idea where he/she lives....I say we form a posse comitatus, get a good length of hemp rope, ride up to Glasgow and start  hangin anyone that look side ways at us.....it's the only way to be sure!!
Joking aside they shouldn't be doing that it is flagarnt abuse of other organisations and people's good will and as a result pretty low behaviour. Z
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Fungus on 11 May, 2014, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: locustsofdeath! on 11 May, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
You can't really blame someone for trying to make some money

No. Selling a free comic for £15 is blatant profiteering. Profiteering is bad.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 12 May, 2014, 12:17:29 AM
It's not profiteering any more than anyone else selling on eBay. Just like with anything else posted on eBay, the market dictates the price - if someone is willing to pay for it, it's fair play. If someone pays for this FREE comic, then that person felt the price was fair (or fair to pay, if you get my meaning.

We don't have to like the dude's selling price - I don't - but that doesn't mean he's being unethical (he doesn't have a monopoly on this book and this book isn't a NEED).
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Fungus on 12 May, 2014, 12:23:59 AM
He/she is being unethical.
On this subject, I am now out. You may want to further argue his/her case. Fine.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: locustsofdeath! on 12 May, 2014, 12:32:26 AM
Quote from: Fungus on 12 May, 2014, 12:23:59 AM
He/she is being unethical.
On this subject, I am now out. You may want to further argue his/her case. Fine.

I'm not arguing for this person - I'm not disagreeing that the price is ridiculous.

BUT

(firstly I'm surprised at your "outrage"; surely there are worse things in this world to be outraged about)

This is no different than anything else on eBay. Dude sets a price hoping to make money. If no one did that on eBay, we'd all be getting mailed neat things we want.

I can go down the list on why this sucks but isn't unethical, but I don't need to: it's not a NEED item, no one is going to live longer if they have it or don't have it. It all comes down to whether a person wants to pay for it or not. If someone stoopidly pays for it, someone stoopidly though the comic was worth it, and were bilked when they could have found it cheaper elsewhere.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: HdE on 12 May, 2014, 01:58:16 AM
Well, I for one am pleased that this thread came of the whole affair... just because I now know Napalm Kev is just down the road from me!
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: ZenArcade on 12 May, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
Respectfuly, I think the link bewtween participation and active encouragement is tenuous. The comics are written, drawn, edited gratis and presented to the shops as an encouragement to potential new readers. This is done obviously to boost sales and make profit in the long term, but also, I think as a symbol that the industry is more than the bottom line (that is is an industry based on imaginaiton and creativity....not money alone). However this quasi speculation on behalf of the publishers works in favour of the regular readers for reasons so obvious I need not go into them.
Now the person who went into the shop and lifted the free comic/comics and proceeded straight away to advertise them on e-bay did two things: a) deprived other people of the chance to obtain a copy and b) completely abused the signature intent of FCBD, which is, in my opinion, a day when the milieu which we all love rises above itself and does something which is not just about the money. So for these reasons shame on the f**king profiteering parasite. Z
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: TordelBack on 12 May, 2014, 08:23:43 AM
There's folk selling Penny Blacks for £100 plus, and there were nearly 70 million of them printed and they originally cost (guess) one penny.  Plus you can't even use them to send a letter 'cos they've already been stamped.

It's just supply, demand and people with more money passion than sense.  You can view what is being sold on eBay as a service rather than a product, and what's being sold here is convenience for those who were unable or unwilling to get to a relevant shop at a relevant time, or make the arrangements subsequently.

Given that FCBD books cost retailers and manufacturers actual money, and the purpose is broadly to encourage interest in comics and comic shops, and more specifically in the particular comic being offered, I suspect that tales of unfulfilled demand, speculator greed and crazy prices serves many of those purposes quite admirably, even if that is not the intended means. 

What's dickish is picking up more than one with intent to profit from other people's loss.  Welcome to the world.



Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: NapalmKev on 12 May, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Quote from: HdE on 12 May, 2014, 01:58:16 AM
Well, I for one am pleased that this thread came of the whole affair... just because I now know Napalm Kev is just down the road from me!


A fellow Exonian/Devonian; Good man! Now there're two of us we can begin a strategic take-over of the Senate (forum)!

Cheers
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 12 May, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
300 Nigerian young girls get kidnapped and people are pissing their knickers at someone failing to sell a free comic.

Yeah, I'm out too.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: JudgeGerry on 12 May, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
Out of Order selling a free comic at that price but why pay £ 15 for a free comic. I went to Forbidden Planet's London Mega Store, no free comics left but I did get a few Graphic Novels sign by Henry Flint  :cool:
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 13 May, 2014, 08:56:38 AM
My FCBD copy is currently at £10.50 on eBay but it is signed by 8 droids including Wagner and Flint, and 100% for cancer research charity
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231223926747
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: ZenArcade on 13 May, 2014, 09:30:03 AM
Eamon, hope it goes for a fortune....the issue on the thread is about putting it on for private gain. Z
With respect to Matt, we are all aghast at the situation in Nigeria, and similar horrors throughout the world; but it was pretty self evident even after the most cursory look at this thread that it was specifically about peoples annoyance (I'll put it no higher than that) over localised profiteering. I'm sorry it doesnt match the scale of horrors he rightly points out are taking place at the moment. But it is a thread specific to the issue at hand. There are several other threads constituted to deal with global issues particularly the excellent political thread. There is little positive about evincing contempt for the several posters on here, when frankly the thread never porported to comment on anything else than the titular topic. Z
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 13 May, 2014, 11:46:09 AM
Mea culpa.

I was in a filthy mood when I posted.

Apologies.
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Richard on 13 May, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
This is the Internet. If you don't want to get worked up about nothing then why are you here?
Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 13 May, 2014, 12:05:19 PM
Surely the other thing

Title: Re: This annoys me sooooo much!!
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 13 May, 2014, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 13 May, 2014, 09:30:03 AM
Eamon, hope it goes for a fortune....the issue on the thread is about putting it on for private gain. Z
With respect to Matt, we are all aghast at the situation in Nigeria, and similar horrors throughout the world; but it was pretty self evident even after the most cursory look at this thread that it was specifically about peoples annoyance (I'll put it no higher than that) over localised profiteering. I'm sorry it doesnt match the scale of horrors he rightly points out are taking place at the moment. But it is a thread specific to the issue at hand. There are several other threads constituted to deal with global issues particularly the excellent political thread. There is little positive about evincing contempt for the several posters on here, when frankly the thread never porported to comment on anything else than the titular topic. Z
I know I was just using this thread as an excuse to pimp my auction for a good cause a bit more. ;-)