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Well seen Daredevil..and suprise suprise.......



It was good!!
Still think Aflek is miscast and can't act though but give him his due he walked through it OK.
Better than Spider-man DARE I say.

"Better than Spider-man DARE I say."

Exactly what I did say, before being disagreed with by three other members of our five strong party. I know I am right though. A bit light on story, more similarities with the Crow and Blade than Spiderman, but definately worth seeing.

P.S. Watch the end titles if you go and see it, there's an extra bit with Bullseye. The film also features cameos from Stan Lee and Frank Miller.

Kewl. I thought Spiderman was very lacking and relied too much on CGI. I'm not inclined to sit through that again, but Daredevil I could definately watch again, in fact I'll buy it on DVD when it comes out.

Thought there was a hell of a lot of CGI in Daredevil.
Maybe it was because it was in darkness most of the time that it's not so noticable.

"Maybe it was because it was in darkness most of the time that it's not so noticable."

I agree, but I like dark films. Very reminiscent of The Crow, which is always a plus point in my book.

Joolz

and kevin smith as well he's the forensics guy urich goes to see also and the inner fanboy is coming out in me there are loads of sly refernces to writers and artists who have worked on the dare devil comics in the past

Frank Miller was in there too, I think he's the guy that Bullseye stabbed in the throat with the pencils.

he was

Was disapointed because:

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There's not that much Daredevil
Electra isn't an assasin
Some of the CGI acrobatics are well dodgy
And worse of all, that old tired cliche reared its head again - D.D gets injured in the shoulder, is so bad he can't save his girlfriend and the priest thinks he's going to die. Starts to fight Bullseye and suddenly is leaping around as if there's nothing wrong with him. Err...

Looks like it's you that has to eat your hat this time then.

Yeah, go figure. That means that Terminator 3 is going to be fantastic and X Men 2 a pile of poo

DareDevil still has the best "chat-up" scene in a movie.

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I seen Daredevil on Thursday afternoon and left the cimema thinking 'that was OK', but on reflection I've changed my mind to 'that was pretty damned good'.

A few things let it down.
Affleck was unconvincing as Murdock.
Some ropey wirework.
Some ropey CGI (I actually like CGI stuff in general, I like stuff that looks kinda computery, it's cool, but some of the Daredevil stuff looked kinda rushed maybe, the CGI models didn't act as solid, weighty objects at times, d'ya see what I mean??).

On the plus side it stayed fairly faithful to the comic - when Daredevil was on screen there was no mistaking it was Daredevil, not some Hollywood version of what Daredevil should be. And that 'Blind Vision' thing, cool or what??

Daredevil took up enough of the movie to keep me happy, I'd have liked more, but I was content with what we got.

Yeah, that quick recovery from his shoulder injury kinda niggles at me too, but not that much.

Bullseye kicked ass (more peanuts, please).

Jan Favreau as Foggy Nelson pretty much naild that one.

M. C. Duncan perhaps underplayed his role (I've only seen him in 'The Green Mile' before, and ket expecting him to start crying or something).

I'll have a full review on ximoc soon and I'm looking forward to seeing Daredevil again.

Can't wait for the DVD.

Link: ximoc

What i DID like about it was that some of the shots were directly taken from the covers and panels:
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The last shot where he fires his billy club up towards the camera is a Joe Quesada cover.
When Bullseye kills Electra with the sais, the pose is exactly as Miller drew it, even down to the sais pushing out the clothes on her back.
Just remembered what else i didn't like. Colin Farrell. Was he taking the piss or what?

speaking as a nearly 16 year old fanboy, i personally loved the film. awesome (jennifer garner may have influenced my judgement tho), action, great, cool costumes. and i was the only one to spot smith and lee out of all my friends! hurray for marvel!

speaking as a nearly 16 year old fanboy, i personally loved the film. awesome (jennifer garner may have influenced my judgement tho), action, great, cool costumes. and i was the only one to spot smith and lee out of all my friends! hurray for marvel

Ah, enjoyable fun, I'm not into the comic book, so i'm not really irked by much of it.

Still, he must have had a can of super shoulder heal on him.

Does it play that awful music during every fight or just one of them?

Awful music? I loved every second of the thing, didn't notice the music. Thinkin' of seein it again pretty soon.

(also gonna buy sum old d'd comics so i can read up on my new role-model's life-history. never bin much of a fan, till now.)

Stick to Fank Miller and Dave Mazzuchelli issues and you wont be dissapointed. Avod Ann Nocenti, Even John Romita Jr couldn't save those issues.

Not read it since Tony McDaniel (95-96?) did the art, so I may have missed some good stuff, but I may have missed a lot of toss.

rotts

Thanks for the advice. Hey-was bullseye such a psyhco in the comics? I mean-pencils thru the head probably wudnt b shown in a 'kiddies' comic, wud they? oh, and 'stiltman'? hmmm...

"Stick to Fank Miller and Dave Mazzuchelli issues and you wont be dissapointed. Avod Ann Nocenti, Even John Romita Jr couldn't save those issues.

Not read it since Tony McDaniel (95-96?) did the art, so I may have missed some good stuff, but I may have missed a lot of toss. "

The Kevin Smith run was actually very good (available in trade) and the Bendis/Maleev run is excellent and very popular with fans. Maleev's art is very suitably dark and a bit noirish.

I've just got back from seeing Daredevil. It was great and all, but my question is this: WHERE WAS THE NEW X2 TRAILER? They showed the old one, the one that's been floating around the X2 website for months, but I deliberately avoided watching the new trailer online this morning, as I thought I'd save it for the big screen. Now I'm back at my girlfriend's house. She doesn't have a broadband connection, and I'm frankly not prepared to sit & watch my beard grow while I wait for the trailer to trickle down her 56K connection. BAH! Death to UGC and their slovenly trailer updating ways!

sorry to disagree with most of you but I thought it was utter shite!!

Ben Aflec has absolutley no screen presence was the main problem and he had obviously not worked out for the role.  

I found certain parts of the film just laughable and the fight at the end between him and kingpin ended poorly, kicked in the legs and then knelt there like a cheap whore.

He can see when in rains, ok. no excuses for peeing on the seat then!!

he gets deafened by load noises, bit of a flaw. Defeated by Hari Krishna!!

sorry did not work for me at all

Got round to seeing Daredevil yesterday.

I thought it was reasonable fare- an improvment on the the tv pilot from the late eighties/early ninties(?) starring that hombre from Street Hawk.

SPOILers..

The CGI was patchy in places but I liked the way Daredevil's radar sense was handled- reminiscent of Pitch Black.

I noticed that Jack Murdock was fighting John Romita- see the headliners outside the boxing   arena.

The floatation tank was a nice addition.

Electra's ninja forces were none existant- see Miller's Electra Assasin.

And although she 'died'.. seeing the brail charm at the end of the film indicated to me that if Fox drum up enough cash from box office sales and develop a sequel she may well 'live again' .

Bullseye didn't get the costume he asked for.

I'll never look at a paper clip or bag of peanuts in the same way again..

Went 2 see it 2nite with a young lady friend and thought it was pretty damn good. I thought it was more like the first Tim Burton Batman movie than Spiderman. I spotted Stan Lee too.

Here's my favourite review so far from (probably) the best page in the universe!

http://maddox.xmission.com/dare_devil.html

"The floatation tank was a nice addition."

Wouldn't he be too wrinkly to fight crime?

Pedantic I know, but the flotation tank is actually used in Frank Miller's run on Daredevil, to some excellent artistic effect in one particularly ground-breaking issue as I recall.

I sa wthe film finally last night & enjoyed it despite the many cheesy moments, very dodgy CGI & a lame ending. Actually it hard to say why I did like it, but strangely I did. Hope there's sequel. Or mebbe a 'Foggy Nelson' spin-off ?? :)

Oi! I liked the Ann Nocenti Dare Devils.

"Hope there's sequel. Or mebbe a 'Foggy Nelson' spin-off ?? :)"

There's talk of an Elektra spin-off. Hell, I'd happily pay money for an hour and a half of Jennifer Garner in black leather. (I think I need help!!)

No accounting for taste then.

How many issues did DD have to spend wandering around avoiding the son of Mephisto and being crap?

Now, lets not fall out about this, it WAS a long time ago.

Typhoid mary was good, as was the art, but it was rubbish IN MY OPINION!

rotts

OK, OK, OK... lets get one thing straight

There are no Daredevil comics except those involving Frank Miller, the exception to the rule being the recent Daredevil: Yellow series.

And I can prove this on an etch-a-sketch. So there.

P.S. I hope those Miller Daredevils rocket in price because of the movie, s I have 'em all. Not that I would sell them, you understand.

Ah wise uncle, but what about the O'neil/Mazzuchelli run? Some lovely stories and damn fine art.

Rotts

You could always lookout for the Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller Graphic Novels.

Frank Miller's entire run is printedin three books.


La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

Link: Daredevil - Frank Miller

Gee, Doesn't Matt have big hands. You can tell his Dad was a boxer, makes it easier to read braille too.

rotts

Mazzuchelli is perhaps the most underrated artist in comics, don't see much of him these days as he's doing a lot of european books, and by the looks of them he appears to be experimenting with an 'eyes closed while drawing' approach, ugh!

His daredevil stuff is fanstastic, if a sequel to the movie is made I'd like to see these stories used as the source, the Nuke storyline and all that.

As for the O'Neil Daredevils, I never read them because I started collecting Daredevil after reading Millers Dark Knight Returns and went on a Miller binge collecting as much of his stuff as possible.

Without Miller and Alan Moore I wouldn't be the sad fanboy I am today, and for that I thank them both.

Link: http://www.ximoc.co.uk

I've got a mis-printed copy of the second issue of man without fear, is it worth anything?

Is it "The man without ears"?

"The man without fart"?

'The Man with our Beer'?

Matt Murdock tackles pint theft in the student union bar scene...

"The man without ears"

DareDevil V.s Mike Tyson!

'The Man Without Gear'

Matt Murdock fails to score...

"Me Mam is out here"

The story of a boy who finds his mother outside.

Unfortunately it's just a repetition of the first half of the story in place of the second, like groundhog day. well, kinda.

Woo HOO!
That was a good movie.  Never read the comic (hadn't heard of it until last month!).

How come all the 'regular' people had superpower strength? All those flying leaps Bullseye & Electra were doing were fairly un-likely?
And yes, DareDevil did restore his health from neardeath too easily, but otherwise I really enjoyed it.
And yes, Oddgirl & I saw it for free even though she finished working there on Friday.

Any one else stay to watch the credits at the end?

After the cast list there's a final scene:

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Bullseye wakes up in prison/hospital in full plastercast with two armed guards at the door.
A fly is bzzing back and forth near his face & he is getting more & more agitated & slowly reaches out to a nearby table of medical stuff.
Cut to guards hearing a swffff! noise & rushing in to see the fly pinned to the wall with a syringe

I finally caught the movie and have to say that I really enjoyed it, loved the cameos, and I'd put it up there alongside Spidey (que Spidey fan bashing?!)

Bullseye was simply loopy tunes, but some of the Michael Bay school editing I found a tad annoying, and I didn't like the Electra character whatsoever.

The biggest revelation for me was Ben Affleck... when I first heard he'd nabbed the role I was apprehensive to say the very least, but he was fine and it was a pleasant surprise.

Yeah I saw "that" ending too I read somewhere (perhaps here?) that there was more footage during the closing credits, most people must have thought I was an obsessive fan scanning the credits rolling as they were leaving the cinema, but more fool them.

Good movie!

Well roll on Double D  ;-)


Ed

it's a tradition with my friends (sad, i know) that we stay till the end of the credits. however, two of our fold did the most heinous thing by going before then. Shock horror! but we had the last laff, when the world exploded. haha. we did laff (we did laff)

saw it yesterday.
it was devons birthday. what a great movie.daddy and devon in the islands biggest screen cineplex.
awsome and sound to match.
we really did enjoy it.
 with standards like this.now being set for comic book heros. i have hope for the future of tooth characters on the big screen.
Ben afleck was damn good i felt.
top stuff.

According to the Paragon Cinema website Daredevil is "a relentless avenger of justice."