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: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 09:15:28 PM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.  A quick study of the experiences of others (on here and elsewhere) suggests that I can expect to spend one year per 500 progs.  As there will be 2,000 progs by the time I'm a quarter way into it, that's quite a time commitment.  But I don't want to stop at just the progs - I want to re-read my Megs as well.  And my Starlords.  I don't have Tornado yet (except for one single, solitary issue) so that might present a problem.  And not leaving out the Sci-Fi and Mega-Specials, Annuals and Yearbooks.  By the time I'm up to the mid-eighties the next volume of the Daily Dredds should also be out as well.

But there's just a few questions I'm trying to resolve in my mind.  In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out, living the thrill-powered life of someone just a little older than I am?  Or starting at prog one and reading the storylines as they start?  Should I stop the weeklies every time an annual or special is released?  What do I do when I get to the nineties - do I read the weekly Progs and the monthly (and sometimes fortnightly) Megs in between?

Any ideas?  From others who have taken this journey, or who might be about to?  Speaking of which - how many others are there out there who have enough Progs and Megs to join me?

As I intimated earlier - this isn't something I'm about to start straight away.  Due to various house moves  my collection is mostly complete but pretty fragmented, so the first order of the day is to get the thing in order (and then replace those precious Progs which have gone missing in the last three-and-a-bit decades).  I seem to remember there was quite a disastrous distribution problem around the time that film came out which could cause problems too...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 22 May, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
You should read one prog a week with a bag of sherbert lemons in your den behind the garage.

it's the only way to recreate that thrill power experience.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 22 May, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.
I started by reading all the Megs first as I stopped getting it for awhile and wanted to see what I had missed. I then started on the Prog from Prog 1.
I am missing out some stories, such as Dredd, Ace Trucking and Robo-hunter as I have read them in the collected books fairly recently. My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
You should read one prog a week with a bag of sherbert lemons in your den behind the garage.

it's the only way to recreate that thrill power experience.

Nice idea - though for me I think Space Raiders would be more appropriate.  I can't even remember if I knew Brett did the packet designs at the time, but I cut out the comic strips on the back, oily and greasy as they were.  I wonder if I still have them lurking in a box somewhere?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 May, 2015, 11:39:04 PM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.
I started by reading all the Megs first as I stopped getting it for awhile and wanted to see what I had missed. I then started on the Prog from Prog 1.
I am missing out some stories, such as Dredd, Ace Trucking and Robo-hunter as I have read them in the collected books fairly recently. My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.

How long ago did you start?  Thinking about it I think I should try to get the Tornado set before I get into it, it'll be pretty early into the slog.

I'm looking forward to a lot of the shorts (even if they're not good, they'll be over in 4-6 pages).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 23 May, 2015, 12:02:03 AM
Nice idea - though for me I think Space Raiders would be more appropriate.  I can't even remember if I knew Brett did the packet designs at the time, but I cut out the comic strips on the back, oily and greasy as they were.

 :lol: Me too!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Colin YNWA 23 May, 2015, 07:17:59 AM
Yeah and you should have to fight with your brother about whose turn it is to read it first. If you don't have a brother just chose a random person in the street who looks about 3 1/2 years older then you.

Anyway its one of those things that you really have to decide for yourself (man maybe we can release a Prog Slog help guide like running a marathon guide or some such?). What is it your want to get from the experience. Last time I did a 'full' one I read a year of Dredd's then went back through that year reading individual stories as one, happily skipping stories here and there that didn't take my fancy. That's cos I just wanted to read the stories I hadn't read for years.

On my 'To Read' Spreadsheet about 1 year or more away I've put in re-read in but this time I'm going to read a year of Progs in a month (ish) have about 4 slots in my reading list 'section', 2 new material, 2 re-read if that makes sense, tends to take me a month to get through one of those, though with a year of progs in each section might take longer... anyway I digress that one I'm kinda thinking I'll be reading each prog as a whole, cos I want to know how each Prog read. I'd stick the relevent years annuals and specials at the end of the relevent year I'd guess but have over thought it.

I think some people read a Prog a day which always seemed a nice way to do it, but not sure I have the patience or time, I'd miss some etc etc.

Its all about what you want from the experience I'd say, why you doing it. Main thing of course is you'll have a bloody good time and remember to keep us informed!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Jock Savage 23 May, 2015, 08:42:56 AM
In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out?

I would say so. That way you get an impression of the history of the comic as well as the development of the strips themselves.

Throwing in annuals and specials sounds like a great way of adding a bit of variety, but I'm not sure the complicated business of coordinating the Megazine's erratic publishing schedule with the prog is worth the bother. There are 2 or 3 epics where the Dredd strips in both comics hook up, but for the rest of the 25 years they're just 2 comics from the same publisher.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 23 May, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.

Are you going to keep a prog slog blog too Sheridan, or are you rereading them just for pleasure?

I like the idea of reading Tornado or some other contemporaneous titles along with the weekly prog to get a sense of the past.  Nice one!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
Yeah and you should have to fight with your brother about whose turn it is to read it first. If you don't have a brother just chose a random person in the street who looks about 3 1/2 years older then you.

Anyway its one of those things that you really have to decide for yourself (man maybe we can release a Prog Slog help guide like running a marathon guide or some such?). What is it your want to get from the experience. Last time I did a 'full' one I read a year of Dredd's then went back through that year reading individual stories as one, happily skipping stories here and there that didn't take my fancy. That's cos I just wanted to read the stories I hadn't read for years.

On my 'To Read' Spreadsheet about 1 year or more away I've put in re-read in but this time I'm going to read a year of Progs in a month (ish) have about 4 slots in my reading list 'section', 2 new material, 2 re-read if that makes sense, tends to take me a month to get through one of those, though with a year of progs in each section might take longer... anyway I digress that one I'm kinda thinking I'll be reading each prog as a whole, cos I want to know how each Prog read. I'd stick the relevent years annuals and specials at the end of the relevent year I'd guess but have over thought it.

I think some people read a Prog a day which always seemed a nice way to do it, but not sure I have the patience or time, I'd miss some etc etc.

Its all about what you want from the experience I'd say, why you doing it. Main thing of course is you'll have a bloody good time and remember to keep us informed!
Here's a few reasons I have for wanting to re-read the lot:
I'm thinking at the moment that I'll try to read them in the order they came out, including the erratic publishing schedule of the Meg (though excepting the Daily Dredds, as reading one weekly and five dailies in between progs would be a bit overcomplicated...)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
At some point before the end of this year I'm going to embark on a prog slog (or possibly a back prog slog), but as it means I'll be devoting quite a chunk of my time to it, I want to make sure I start out doing it right.

Are you going to keep a prog slog blog too Sheridan, or are you rereading them just for pleasure?

I like the idea of reading Tornado or some other contemporaneous titles along with the weekly prog to get a sense of the past.  Nice one!
I'm thinking of some sort of blog - trying to think of some sort of angle that others haven't covered before (though if I can't , I'll probably just do it anyway).  First things first - got to come up with a name for it...  Both ideas so far featuring travelling / journeying terms:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
Prog Party? Issue Endeavour? Comic Quest?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Fungus 23 May, 2015, 01:23:23 PM
Prog Peregrination
Box of Progs
Prog Blog
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 May, 2015, 01:43:56 PM
In what order should I actually read them?  Cover-to-cover as they came out?

I would say so. That way you get an impression of the history of the comic as well as the development of the strips themselves.

Throwing in annuals and specials sounds like a great way of adding a bit of variety, but I'm not sure the complicated business of coordinating the Megazine's erratic publishing schedule with the prog is worth the bother. There are 2 or 3 epics where the Dredd strips in both comics hook up, but for the rest of the 25 years they're just 2 comics from the same publisher.

I've also just thought that the Virgin and Abaddon shall need to fit in somewhere.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
Prog Blog

This could reignite the old is it pronounced 'Pr-oag' or 'Pr-og'. I'm a 'Pr-oag' person as it is short for 'programme'.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Fungus 23 May, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Aware of this schism (hm, Skizzm?)... For the record, my progs rhyme with frogs. Always been aware it's shortened from 'programme' and still preferred 'prawg', see absolutely no problem with this and it just sounds better. In this bonkers-future world of podcasts, thrillcasts, etc. I detect 'prawgs' might be in the majority? But obviously I do hear both. Was it ever 'resolved' ?

"Prog Bloag" then  ?  :) That is kind of pleasing...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 23 May, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Prog Blog

This could reignite the old is it pronounced 'Pr-oag' or 'Pr-og'. I'm a 'Pr-oag' person as I'm wrong

FTFY
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 23 May, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
I'm not sure when I started my slog.
The amount of Progs I get through in a week varies. I read the issues before the Star Lord merger some time ago and then started from Prog 86 fairly recently.

Another fun part of it is recognising the names of some of the letter writers and fan artists who I now know or have gone on to work for Tharg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Colin YNWA 23 May, 2015, 05:00:25 PM
Another fun part of it is recognising the names of some of the letter writers and fan artists who I now know or have gone on to work for Tharg.

Yeah it certainly is. It for this reason and ones like it that I'll always prefer to have the original Progs (surely its always as in rhymes with frogs as the alternatiave are just uck! Even if it is short for Programme Pr-oags is just horrible!) over neat and easy trade collections. Another thing I love is the way the ads in the Progs really help give the stories a context about the time and environment they were created in.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Buttonman 23 May, 2015, 06:08:38 PM
This fine thread (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36119.0.html) (along with 'Letters to the Green Dude') contains of of the art and letters that could be scraped together for future creators - might spoil the fun of stumbling across them though!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
Well, the first bit was surprisingly easy - I now possess a set of 22 Tornado comics.

I could do with a checklist, with dates easily accessible and sortable. 

While Barney (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=collector&page=checklist) and Termight (http://www.2000ad.nu/termight/collecting.html) are certainly going to come in handy, they're not quite what I'm looking for...

If there isn't already a Google Spreadsheet out there then I shall have to create one (and then share it, naturally).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 30 May, 2015, 04:08:57 AM
I'm thinking of some sort of blog - trying to think of some sort of angle that others haven't covered before (though if I can't , I'll probably just do it anyway).  First things first - got to come up with a name for it... 

Strontium Blog
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 07:31:36 AM
'Star-lag and the Torn-A-holes of 2000 Maniacs'

Nice and snappy like.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
... Or maybe just '2000 Maniacs'

Prog Busters
Proglodyte Review
Backprogs and Re-joggin' (oof)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: judda fett 30 May, 2015, 08:09:15 AM
Re-Prog Man
Prog, All Bar None

I'm also throwing in a free blog title for anyone wishing to start a blog dedicated to the Dark Knight... 'Cowl Movements'.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 May, 2015, 11:04:29 PM
I've now started a blog (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/17/) (title possibly subject to change).

As I'm going along, I'll be updating the Wikia (http://2000ad.wikia.com) for all things 2000AD (one of three now, though the other two are centred on Dredd alone).  To this end I've put together a quick spreadsheet of the tales which were printed in Tornado (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nu-nMEA4j_rsX9sIl23HzkIoh6E0P7jHY3_q3l9_NMg/edit?usp=sharing)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Not got much on this weekend, weather lately has got a bit cold, so I'm going to start today (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/starting-today/%20start%20today).

Still not entirely sure where my Star Lords are, but I've got almost a year's worth of progs, the summer supercomic and the first annuals lined up.
I’m setting myself a few rules:

That’s about it – time to make myself a coffee and get started – I won’t go into the garden to play with the space spinner though.  Apart from anything else, I don’t think the cat would play along (if only I had a dog!)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 04:24:47 PM
Prog 1 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-1/) - more a commentary than a review - I'm sure there's nothing in there that you lot don't already know
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 12 September, 2015, 06:29:41 PM
Well I didn't realise 'Drokk!' originated in Dan Dare, or that it was in Prog 1, so you're off to a good start! Any Betelgeusian expressions other than Galactic Groats?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 08:55:59 PM
Well I didn't realise 'Drokk!' originated in Dan Dare, or that it was in Prog 1, so you're off to a good start! Any Betelgeusian expressions other than Galactic Groats?

Good point - there's no Borag Thungg, but he does sign off with a Splundig Vur Thrigg!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
The Nerve Centre makes it's first appearance in Prog 2 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-2/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 12:41:53 AM
Onwards, to Prog 3 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/prog-3-shoot-me-boss-dont-let-it-eat-me-alive/), and the Belardinelli droid's first two-story prog (not that there are many - I think there's one coming up where he draws the Dredd as well as Dare).

p.s. we also get our first glimpse of what working conditions are like in the Command Module.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 02:52:22 AM
Up to Prog 4 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-4-logans-force-field-has-failed/) and Kevin O'Neill's first bona fide comics work in the Galaxy's Greatest (the background of one panel in the Dredd Brotherhood of Darkness story, and a full-page comic strip / advert for Flesh products).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Spikes 13 September, 2015, 10:52:47 AM
O'Neill redrew/altered some of McMahon's work? Interesting. Which panel was that Sheridan?

(And didn't Kevin draw the little Tharg head on the cover of Prog 1?)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 02:18:03 PM
O'Neill redrew/altered some of McMahon's work? Interesting. Which panel was that Sheridan?

(And didn't Kevin draw the little Tharg head on the cover of Prog 1?)
I think he did draw that Tharg, but could stand to be corrected.

Bottom right panel of the third page - that's definitely an early O'Neill skull!  Looks like he just filled in what would otherwise be a blank background.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkly2wQzbw1qi8laso1_500.jpg)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Spikes 13 September, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
Cheers for that.
I did have a look-see before your reply, to see if I could spot the panel in question, and the one you've mention was the one that did catch my eye. So, was this stated for sure, or is this something you have felt was always the case?
Certainly over the years, artwork was altered a good few times before going to print.

But a great excuse to re-read that particular episode!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 08:11:03 PM
Cheers for that.
I did have a look-see before your reply, to see if I could spot the panel in question, and the one you've mention was the one that did catch my eye. So, was this stated for sure, or is this something you have felt was always the case?
Certainly over the years, artwork was altered a good few times before going to print.

But a great excuse to re-read that particular episode!

I don't remember noticing it myself, but can't work out where I read about it.  In the course of my failed research I did just find out that Kev had to bodge some Volg outriders into an Invasion! strip, because to the Argentinian artist who originally drew them an outrider is a guy on a horse.  That's something to look out for (assuming I haven't already missed it).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2015, 10:07:59 PM
Oops - posted the blogpost a few hours ago but completely forgot to update here, Dredd made the cover (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-5-dredds-attacking-the-cyborg/) and we John Cooper joins the roster of art droids.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 14 September, 2015, 08:05:54 AM
Up to Prog 4 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/prog-4-logans-force-field-has-failed/) and Kevin O'Neill's first bona fide comics work in the Galaxy's Greatest (the background of one panel in the Dredd Brotherhood of Darkness story, and a full-page comic strip / advert for Flesh products).

In Prog 1's episode of Flesh, final page, final panel, the Trans Time base has always looked like O'Neill's work to me.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 September, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Is that Satanus in Prog 6 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/prog-6-the-nazis-have-come-back-from-the-dead/)?  I'll wait until the Cursed Earth, then go back and compare scenes...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 15 September, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dominic O'Rourke 15 September, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
I'm up to prog 1234 on my slog.

There was an awful lull from around 750 onwards, but I pulled through.

I started off trying to read it all in order, but after the dune shark Dredd crossover, I've taken to reading a year of the prog and a year of the Meg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 September, 2015, 11:46:39 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2015, 10:56:30 PM
Galactic Greetings, or as aliens say, Borag Thungg! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/prog-7-the-biogs-from-planet-zircon-are-on-the-rampage-for-their-main-fuel-supply-earthmen/) - yep, while Splundig Vur Thrigg was with us from the beginning, Prog 7 saw the first use of Tharg's now-familiar greeting.  Coincidentally, given recent previews, it also sees the first appearance of the Statue of Judgement too.  In later years it'll be surrounded by a sea of concrete, but in 2099 at least it still has some of Upper New York Bay behind it.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2015, 10:58:05 PM
In Prog 1's episode of Flesh, final page, final panel, the Trans Time base has always looked like O'Neill's work to me.

That one has crossed my mind in the past too, but it's not quite distinctive enough to be conclusive for me (probably is our Kev though).
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 18 September, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.

The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site. Virgin novels are easy to place as the Meg printed a Prelude chapter for each; audios and the Black Flame novels have publication dates on Amazon. I spent a couple of years slowly compiling a publication order list of all Dredd World stories. Most of it is fairly easy to place..
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 September, 2015, 07:36:32 PM
Your ambition on covering EVERYTHING is to be greatly admired! Good luck to you.

As you say, it's tough to find new things to say about the very early Progs that hasn't been said before, but so far so good!
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.

The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site. Virgin novels are easy to place as the Meg printed a Prelude chapter for each; audios and the Black Flame novels have publication dates on Amazon. I spent a couple of years slowly compiling a publication order list of all Dredd World stories. Most of it is fairly easy to place..
I got all the Virgin novels as they were coming out.  Do you still have that publication order list?
: Re: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 September, 2015, 10:46:06 PM
Thanks!  I probably won't include the phone cards ('coz I don't have them), but will include the movies - not sure what I'll do about the audio plays and books yet, but I'll fit 'em in somehow.
The first series of phone cards can be found on the fantastic Cellar of Dredd site.

I thought I'd seen pictures of some of them before, and I knew John had them all so that must have been where I saw them.   Thanks for the reminder!

p.s. I've had a busy Saturday, but finally found time to read Prog 8 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/prog-8-8-full-colour-monster-pix/), which is now up.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 September, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Roll on Sunday, and Prog 9 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/prog-9-goodbye-giant-the-mad-avenger-has-you-in-his-sights/) - the Harlem Heroes make the cover (for the only time), the word 'prog' is used and Dredd uses his respirator.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 September, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
Second post today and it turns out I have a bit more to say about Prog 10: "The Robot's Revolt has begun - all humans must die!" (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/20/2000ad-prog-10-the-robots-revolt-has-begun-all-humans-must-die/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 September, 2015, 01:19:54 AM
Last post of this weekend takes me up to Prog 11: Follow Me into the Sun... you will Share the Death of a Martian Warrior! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/2000ad-prog-11-follow-me-into-the-sun-you-will-share-the-death-of-a-martian-warrior/) (Bolland's first appearance, the rules to the Flesh game and Dredd's first resignation of many).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 21 September, 2015, 02:55:34 PM
These are great reading, keep it up!  I'd no idea Tharg sheds his skin (although it explains a lot).  Is it really PVC, and not polystyrene,that Tharg eats originally? The kinky green divil!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dash Decent 21 September, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
There's a bit in the very early progs - the letters page in prog 8, or something like that - where Tharg describes Betelguesian females as being very alien looking, with tentacles etc.  Of course, when one finally shows up in the prog (Marg?) she's just a female version of Tharg.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 September, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
There's a bit in the very early progs - the letters page in prog 8, or something like that - where Tharg describes Betelguesian females as being very alien looking, with tentacles etc.  Of course, when one finally shows up in the prog (Marg?) she's just a female version of Tharg.
I don't think I've come across that bit yet, and I'm up to Prog 12, as of yesterday (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/2000ad-prog-12-the-return-of-mekon/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 September, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
Hot on the tail of Prog 12 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/2000ad-prog-12-the-return-of-mekon/) comes Prog 13 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/2000ad-prog-13-from-out-of-my-alien-head-i-tharg-bring-you-the-future/) (the first prog to be called a prog instead of a programme).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: glassstanley 29 September, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
FYI, Inferno is on the cover of Prog 68.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 October, 2015, 01:32:05 AM
I'm currently on a Prog Slog.

My next Prog is 250. This was such a golden era for 2000AD that I am getting through them quite quickly as I am skipping the previously mentioned classic stories.
The real joy for me has been the Future Shocks. I had forgotten a few of them and there are some real gems in there.

Which prog are you up to now?  After a week since the last one (my self-imposed deadline) I'm up to Prog 14 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/2000ad-prog-14-the-dinosaurs-have-got-us-the-pteranodons-have-got-us-and-now-the-spiders-have-got-us/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 05 October, 2015, 07:57:05 AM
I'm on Prog 615. There's a dip in quality now.
The era of Zippy Couriers, Night Zero and Swifty"s Return (Sooner or Later).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 06 October, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
interesting note on the "furry tyrannosaurs" from prog 11:

In the final talk session of the entire meeting, Jean Le Loeuff looked at Mathurin Meheut’s artwork (in 1943 Meheut produced a fairly surreal painting titled Les Diplodocus), and Allison Ksiazkiewicz spoke about… about.. well, I’m not entirely sure, but it was something to do with how viewers interpret the gaze of ancient animals as depicted in artwork. And, in the very last talk of the conference, Jeff Liston provided an outstanding overview of how the dinosaur renaissance was depicted in the comics and books of the 1970s. A 1977 story from 2000 A.D., ‘Flesh’, has Late Cretaceous theropods ganging up on villainous humans who have come back in time to harvest herbivorous dinosaurs. Led by the matriarchal tyrannosaur Old One Eye, a coalition of tyrannosaurs and spinosaurs co-operated: where else could you hear the line ‘From the north came the furry tyrannosaurs’? Important is that the story incorporated Deinonychus. So agile, furry dinosaurs had infiltrated popular culture pretty soon after Bakker’s early articles (Bakker 1968, 1971, 1972, 1975).

From: http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/ (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: amines2058 06 October, 2015, 04:17:35 PM
interesting note on the "furry tyrannosaurs" from prog 11:

In the final talk session of the entire meeting, Jean Le Loeuff looked at Mathurin Meheut’s artwork (in 1943 Meheut produced a fairly surreal painting titled Les Diplodocus), and Allison Ksiazkiewicz spoke about… about.. well, I’m not entirely sure, but it was something to do with how viewers interpret the gaze of ancient animals as depicted in artwork. And, in the very last talk of the conference, Jeff Liston provided an outstanding overview of how the dinosaur renaissance was depicted in the comics and books of the 1970s. A 1977 story from 2000 A.D., ‘Flesh’, has Late Cretaceous theropods ganging up on villainous humans who have come back in time to harvest herbivorous dinosaurs. Led by the matriarchal tyrannosaur Old One Eye, a coalition of tyrannosaurs and spinosaurs co-operated: where else could you hear the line ‘From the north came the furry tyrannosaurs’? Important is that the story incorporated Deinonychus. So agile, furry dinosaurs had infiltrated popular culture pretty soon after Bakker’s early articles (Bakker 1968, 1971, 1972, 1975).

From: http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/ (http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2008/05/13/dahp-part-ii/)

Hmmm... One for the swipe file???
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 06 October, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
it's not a swipe - just pointing out that Pat Mills was bang up to date with current dino-research when he wrote Flesh!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 07 October, 2015, 10:49:54 PM
I've just read Prog 622. Not much variety of writers in this one!

Two stories by Alan Grant. Dredd and Anderson.
Three by Hilary Robinson. Zippy Couriers, Medivac 318 and a Future Shock.
A Daily Star Dredd by Grant and Wagner.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 October, 2015, 04:28:27 AM
I've just read Prog 622. Not much variety of writers in this one!

Two stories by Alan Grant. Dredd and Anderson.
Three by Hilary Robinson. Zippy Couriers, Medivac 318 and a Future Shock.
A Daily Star Dredd by Grant and Wagner.

I saw a kitten on someone's Tshirt the other day which made me think of Zippy Couriers (it was in the same style, but I don't think it was directly related).

I set myself an absolute minimum limit of one prog a week (apart from the latest, that is) and am pushing the definition this week, though I haven't gone to sleep yet, so this still counts as Sunday, right?

Prog 15: Mach One Plus One (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/12/2000ad-prog-15-mach-one-plus-one/)

I now have a few days off work so should be able to catch up...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 12 October, 2015, 08:19:35 AM
I'm on a minimum of one Prog a day. Sometimes it can be up to ten, if I'm doing a long printing job at work.  :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 October, 2015, 01:05:02 AM
Savage goes face-to-face against an Australian bounty hunter who uses the word 'sport' in two thirds of his sentences while Probe gets to wipe out a "nest of slant-eyed vipers".  Casual racism was more socially acceptable in the seventies you say?  I'd never have guessed!  Prog 16: We are Being Attacked by the Capitol Building (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/2000ad-prog-16-flight-z-40-location-devils-triangle-amber-alert-we-are-being-attacked-by-the-capitol-building/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 14 October, 2015, 04:40:55 AM
We get a second Dan Dare centrespread in portrait orientation next – I don’t remember there being another one until the Torque-Armada spread in 1983, and I’m pretty sure there won’t be any more after that.

Does the City of the Damned 'Next Prog' count? (Somewhere in the 390s).And am I misremembering, or did Mad George not get the Torque-Armada treatment first? Or was that technically a Star Scan? (Somewhere in the 130-150 range?).

Really enjoying the blog, Sheridan - keep at it!

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 October, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
We get a second Dan Dare centrespread in portrait orientation next – I don’t remember there being another one until the Torque-Armada spread in 1983, and I’m pretty sure there won’t be any more after that.

Does the City of the Damned 'Next Prog' count? (Somewhere in the 390s).And am I misremembering, or did Mad George not get the Torque-Armada treatment first? Or was that technically a Star Scan? (Somewhere in the 130-150 range?).

Really enjoying the blog, Sheridan - keep at it!

Thanks - and good catch on both counts, just checked, there is the Mad George / ABC Warriors reporting for duty portrait.  I reckon we're well overdue for another centrespread (though good luck to anybody rotating the magazine on public transport...)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 October, 2015, 01:44:07 AM
Prog 17 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/2000ad-prog-17-oh-no-johnson-mills-and-shepherd-have-got-mixed-up-with-a-tyrannosaur-in-the-time-machine/) - the one with a dinosaur with three (human) heads on the cover.  Turns out that this is my favourite episode of Judge Dredd so far in the Back Prog Hack - love the styling of the back of the Lawmaster, Gibson's views of the city, Texas City gets a mention on the side of an oil tanker and more.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 October, 2015, 05:25:51 PM
Ma Mahaffy (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/2000ad-prog-18-by-stomm-now-theyre-even-growing-law-breakers-in-mega-city-1/) - the cover by Don Lawrence, which was famously bodged to replace Ma with Dredd...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 01 November, 2015, 10:46:12 PM
It's been a while, hopefully I'll speed up a bit (I've been updating a wiki (http://2000ad.wikia.com/) while I've been going along, which hasn't helped the frequency of my posts).  Prog 19 - Supercover No 1, A Robot's Best Friend... (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/2000ad-prog-19-supercover-1-a-robots-best-friend/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 January, 2016, 03:50:49 AM
After taking November out to do NaNoWriMo, and then finding it difficult to get back into the swing of things with the 2000AD Summer Special Supercomic (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/2000ad-summer-special-supercomic/) I've finally managed to make my way though and update the blog.  I'm hoping Prog 20 won't take so long!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 March, 2016, 04:34:16 AM
Prog 20 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/2000ad-prog-20-supercover-2-the-man-who-stole-the-stars/) - will it take me less than three months to put up the next one?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 October, 2016, 11:35:52 PM
Prog 20 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/2000ad-prog-20-supercover-2-the-man-who-stole-the-stars/) - will it take me less than three months to put up the next one?

...and the answer to that is yes, it took substantially more than three months!  I usually make some sort of birthday resolution each year, so I think this year's will be to update more regularly!  Enough chat - slog entry for Prog 21 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/2000ad-prog-21-supercover-3-emergency-the-alien-machine-is-about-to-destroy-our-world/).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 October, 2016, 12:39:34 AM
Hot on the heels of that one - here's Prog 22: Mutant on the Metro! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/2000ad-prog-22-supercover-4-mutant-on-the-metro/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 20 October, 2016, 08:15:39 AM
My next Prog is 1055.
The quality is improving again now I'm in the late 1990's with early episodes of Sinister Dexter and Nikolai Dante.
I'd forgotten there were so many topless women in I Was A Teenage Tax Consultant! Saucy Tharg.  :o
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 20 October, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 October, 2016, 05:01:06 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!

"tackle" *hur-hur* shut up beavis :)

p.s. don't miss out Probe's bottom in the very first prog ;)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Albion 20 October, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
.....Probe's bottom......
:o

*hur-hur* shut up beavis
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 October, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
After that juvenile interlude (I'm sure there'll be more) it's back to the slog, with Prog 23: The Plague from Pluto! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/21/2000ad-prog-23the-plague-from-pluto/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: ZenArcade 22 October, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 October, 2016, 11:48:42 PM
Yes, along with the various efforts cataloguing female Judges, BAME characters and smiling Dredds, someone somewhere is compiling a list of all panels featuring nudity. I'm genuinely curious to know if the Prog displays more naked boobs or dangling wangs; I reckon it's a close thing.

And no, I'm not tackling this one!
It's not full nudity, but Prog 24 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/prog-24-get-a-load-of-this-ancient-water-god-drawing/) features Shako tearing the clothes off of a trooper sent to kill him one at a time until he's in his underwear.  Other than that, Kev O'Neill starts to make an impact (that you can see on the page, that is).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 October, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
Good luck, ZenArcade!  My tip - if you want to keep on schedule, don't update blogs and wikis as you go along!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: ZenArcade 24 October, 2016, 05:31:22 PM
Any advice much appreciated Sheridan. Z
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 October, 2016, 04:30:17 AM
I'm getting pretty close to my first annual - not sure exactly which progs it will fall between, but it's a few weeks off yet.  In the meantime: Prog 25: Mega-City... Murder by Meteor! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/prog-25-mega-city-murder-by-meteor/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 October, 2016, 09:22:24 AM
Mega-City One takes revenge (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/prog-26-greetings-earthmen-we-are-the-first-of-the-satan-horde/) in a pretty unsatisfactory way...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 February, 2017, 08:40:57 PM
Ok, 3 progs per day. I'm starting on 1st Nov. Z
Did you get started?  And keep it up?

Spurred on by the upcoming celebrations, I've taken my latest out of drafts and published it.

Prog 27 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/prog-27-have-made-contact-with-aliens-facial-area-composition-flesh-conclusion-edible/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 May, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
How not to do a prog slog!  I came to the first annual, and suddenly found almost anything else at all to do that was more interesting.  Can I go back to the weekly progs now? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/13/2000-a-d-annual-1978/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: AlexF 14 May, 2019, 03:11:19 PM
I have a strong suspicion that the way to do a Prog Slog is NOT to read the Annuals! And maybe not the Specials, either - although there are bound to be some exceptions at some point, where there are key chapters in the sagas of Rogue Trooper and Tyranny Rex to name two examples.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 May, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
I have a strong suspicion that the way to do a Prog Slog is NOT to read the Annuals! And maybe not the Specials, either - although there are bound to be some exceptions at some point, where there are key chapters in the sagas of Rogue Trooper and Tyranny Rex to name two examples.

I think the Judge Dredd annuals are all pretty good, and the 2000AD ones from 1985 onwards*, it's just everything prior to those that will drag...


* the one's I grew up with!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 May, 2019, 10:54:30 PM
You wait ages for a prog slog post, then two come along at once (well, within a week of each other).

Prog 28: Terror at 20,000 Fathoms! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/24/prog-28-terror-at-20000-fathoms/).  Better get started on the next one, or it'll be another two years...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 24 May, 2019, 11:27:39 PM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 12:25:34 AM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

I should add that I'm also updating the 2000ADopedia (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/2000ADopedia) while I'm going along, and finding out just how many characters called George (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/George), Charlie (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Charlie), Alf (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Alf), Karl (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Karl) and Whitey (http://) there are.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 12:29:45 AM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

Not that any of that's an excuse - at my current rate around 70 or 80 progs, megs, specials and books have been released in the time it took me to cover the first annual and a prog.  Even if Rebellion stopped publishing tomorrow, it'd be one or two geological epochs until I caught up...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 May, 2019, 10:22:33 PM
And another - Prog 30: Destroy! Destroy! Destroy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/prog-29-destroy-destroy-destroy/) (the Supercover Saga story all about a giant robot designed to kill pigeons*).


*it was the seventies...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
I would have posted this yesterday, but I had a birthday party to go to.

Prog 30 - the one with the Return of Rico! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/27/prog-30-time-travellers-from-titan/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
I'm going to experiment on this one - to avoid posting two blogposts on the same day, I've scheduled the following to be published on wordpress tomorrow at 07:30 - let's see how it works!

Prog 31: Alert! Alert! Emergency touchdown - Pad 5, get the clean-up crew, fast! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/28/prog-31-alert-alert-emergency-touchdown-pad-5-get-the-clean-up-crew-fast).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 May, 2019, 10:36:10 PM
I'm going to experiment on this one - to avoid posting two blogposts on the same day, I've scheduled the following to be published on wordpress tomorrow at 07:30 - let's see how it works!

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Tjm86 28 May, 2019, 02:39:06 PM

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...

Not a major problem, most of my year 9 class have a similar problem with time full stop, never mind BST ...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 May, 2019, 09:13:26 PM

Wordpress seems to have timezone problems - it knows I'm in London but doesn't understand how British Summer Time works, so it may go live at 08:30 instead of 07:30...

Not a major problem, most of my year 9 class have a similar problem with time full stop, never mind BST ...

I have the same problem too - I may physically be present at work, but until I've had that first cup of the day my mind takes a while to catch up ;)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 29 May, 2019, 01:46:30 AM
Glad you're back at it! I had initially thought to update the wiki as well as the start of Spinner, but early on I learned about Barney so I didn't go forward with it. You're doing good work!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 May, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Glad you're back at it! I had initially thought to update the wiki as well as the start of Spinner, but early on I learned about Barney so I didn't go forward with it. You're doing good work!

Thanks!

I must confess that I've been listening to your early podcasts (covering the same annual and progs) to help give me inspiration, hence a link regarding the Star Warriors in today's post:

Prog 32: You will not defeat me, human! The Silver Cyborg shall destroy you and your planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/29/prog-32-you-will-not-defeat-me-human-the-silver-cyborg-shall-destroy-you-and-your-planet/)

Everything Comes Back to 2000AD started doing podcasts about early progs as well, though I'm not sure they made it as far as 32...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 May, 2019, 05:14:39 PM
Prog 33: Dangerous Android at Large (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/30/prog-33-dangerous-android-at-large/)

How long will I be able to keep this up daily?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 31 May, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Prog 34: The Day the Earth Burned (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/05/31/prog-34the-day-the-earth-burned/).

The day in question was in 2010.  Mention is made in Judge Dredd about the how Weather Control hasn't been set to Winter since 2019...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 01 June, 2019, 11:13:36 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 02 June, 2019, 12:41:18 PM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

I only noticed after I'd finished reading Prog 38, but the first appearance of the Landraider is also in Prog 35 (though it's not called the Landraider, and it's in an advert).  Have added a paragraph to Prog 35's entry.

Prog 37 is scheduled to go out tomorrow, but today's post is Prog 36: Take ’em from behind – best way to kill those slimy aliens! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/02/prog-36-take-em-from-behind-best-way-to-kill-those-slimy-aliens/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 03 June, 2019, 08:03:55 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

The jump straight from harpoon to bazooka is one of my favorite things ever!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 09:23:30 AM
Prog 35: All Earthmen must die!  Take no prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/01/prog-35-all-earthmen-must-die-take-no-prisoners/)

Shako ends in a manner inconsistent with the 'no-shooting-or-the-capsule-might-break' constraints from preceding episodes, there's no starscan and I rediscover tags...

The jump straight from harpoon to bazooka is one of my favorite things ever!

Having been listening to your early podcasts - did you ever get to try shredded wheat?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 12:47:02 PM
Today's post: Prog 37: Examining specimen now… soon we shall exterminate the plague of humans! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/03/prog-37-examining-specimen-now-soon-we-shall-exterminate-the-plague-of-humans/)


: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 03 June, 2019, 06:04:26 PM
Having been listening to your early podcasts - did you ever get to try shredded wheat?

I appreciate your willingness to listen to those formative shows! I have in fact now sampled by Shreddies AND Weetabix, as well as Sherbet and KP Space Raiders! My quest for the Bigfoot Ice Lolly will sadly probably end up like my quest for Bigfoot himself: In disappointment, with a lot of spoiled milk.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 03 June, 2019, 06:20:30 PM
ah but how's your stamp collection coming on?  :lol:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 June, 2019, 07:32:24 PM
ah but how's your stamp collection coming on?  :lol:

I have completed my stamp collection - when I got this one:

(https://www.collectgbstamps.co.uk/images/phq/large/phq362j.jpg)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 04 June, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
Prog 38: Killer Rock! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/04/prog-38-killer-rock/)

Spoiler warning - the twist on the supercover saga will not surprise anybody!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 June, 2019, 01:16:25 PM
Prog 39: Get it through your thick skull, Earthman… we don’t have pointed ears! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/05/prog-39-get-it-through-your-thick-skull-earthman-we-dont-have-pointed-ears/)

I saw one of the pages in this prog at Lawless last month - can't remember which one it was, but it was from The Ape Gang (and had just been bought for an undisclosed amount of money).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 06 June, 2019, 01:43:39 PM
Prog 40: Secret of the microverse (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/06/prog-40-secret-of-the-microverse/)

There's not really any secret in the Supercover Story, and an ending that basic medical precautions could have done something about...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 07 June, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
Prog 41: Ah-aaarrh! Two more of those juicy Earth-sweets I always enjoy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/07/prog-41-ah-aaarrh-two-more-of-those-juicy-earth-sweets-i-always-enjoy/)

Next one's in draft and I may have a busy weekend ahead of me, so there could be a delay until the next update.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 09 June, 2019, 12:27:22 PM
Yesterday's post was Prog 42: Sorry fellas, but with these odds I’m not sticking around to play games with that stinkin alien… (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/08/prog-42-sorry-fellas-but-with-these-odds-im-not-sticking-around-to-play-games-with-that-stinkin-alien/)  Dredd goes to the Moon, but due to the Supercover Saga we don't get any pictures of something like that on the cover.

Prog 43: Dial M for Monster (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/09/prog-43-dial-m-for-monster/) - we finally get to the end of the Supercover Saga, so the covers can have something to do with the contents of the prog again!

I'm stealing Space Spinner 2000 (http://spacespinner2000.com/)'s idea of including details of where you can read these stories if you don't have the original progs and Mega-City Book Club (https://megacitybookclub.blogspot.com/)'s idea of grail pages for each prog.  Concepts stolen without permission!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 10 June, 2019, 05:25:44 AM
J. Clough is a Mike Dorey pseudonym, in the Invasion collection it's credited "Mike Dorey as J. Clough"

Always happy to inspire a slogger, keep up the great work!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 June, 2019, 02:55:30 PM
Thanks Conrad - I'll update the wiki!

I'm going to continue (to attempt) to update daily, scheduling the posts for 11 (GMT) or 12 (BST) each day, but I'll probably only update this thread at weekends.

Prog 44: Too late, Judge Dwedd *sob* this is our last Christmas! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/prog-44-too-late-judge-dwedd-sob-this-is-our-last-christmas/)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 June, 2019, 09:57:09 PM
The week's posts, and they all have Dan Dare on the cover:

Prog 45: Dan Dare greets the galactic New Year (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/11/prog-45-dan-dare-greets-the-galactic-new-year/)
(Tuesday) The last prog of 1977.

Prog 46: Bodies, Dare, bodies of those who have dared to defy me — remember them well, for soon you will join them! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/12/prog-46-bodies-dare-bodies-of-those-who-have-dared-to-defy-me-remember-them-well-for-soon-you-will-join-them/)
(Wednesday) Dare takes to the cover, Eagle-style while Dredd takes centre page.

Prog 47: Give the order — commence the staking of the prisoners! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/prog-47-give-the-order-commence-the-staking-of-the-prisoners/)
(Thursday) The Visible Man starts...

Prog 48: Those escort ships will never fight again… but half the Starslayer fleet’s closing in on us, Dare! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/14/prog-48-those-escort-ships-will-never-fight-again-but-half-the-starslayer-fleets-closing-in-on-us-dare/)
(Friday)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 15 June, 2019, 06:18:35 AM
I love that prog 46 cover, all the enemies of the Star Slayers, strapped to stars orbiting their home planet! Great scifi stuff!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 15 June, 2019, 05:08:06 PM
I love that prog 46 cover, all the enemies of the Star Slayers, strapped to stars orbiting their home planet! Great scifi stuff!

What a way to launch their new format (Dare story page on the front cover)!  There's also a few alien races I don't think we ever saw before or since on those stars...

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Saturday's post - Prog 49: Death to the intruders! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/15/prog-49-death-to-the-intruders/) - Dredd is believed dead (not for the first time) and quits the force (not for the first time).  And probably the biggest character death we've seen in the prog so far...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 June, 2019, 10:22:06 PM
Prog 50: More Starslayer ships — but they’re opening fire on the battle fleet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/16/prog-50-more-starslayer-ships-but-theyre-opening-fire-on-the-battle-fleet/)  Brit Cit's first mention (well, Brit Territories)!

Prog 51: You are fast, Dare — but it will take more than clever swordplay to beat the Killing Star! You are as good as dead! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/prog-51-you-are-fast-dare-but-it-will-take-more-than-clever-swordplay-to-beat-the-killing-star-you-are-as-good-as-dead/) Last episode of this Dare story...

Prog 52: If we weren’t light years from the other side of nowhere… …I’d say that thing was a coffin! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/prog-52-if-we-werent-light-years-from-the-other-side-of-nowhere-id-say-that-thing-was-a-coffin/) New Dare story, Visible Man ends, Colony Earth! begins.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 June, 2019, 01:14:40 AM
Prog 53: That thing already has my face, my voice, my memories! And now… it’s got my ship! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/20/prog-53-that-thing-already-has-my-face-my-voice-my-memories-and-now-its-got-my-ship/) came out.

John Probe returns, we get to see where Walter's pleasure circuit was installed and I reveal my pet hate.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 June, 2019, 09:06:35 PM
Today's post was: Prog 54: We’re under attack! Can’t see — can’t *gasp* even think! Aargh! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/23/prog-54-were-under-attack-cant-see-cant-gasp-even-think-aargh/)

I learn the difference between a shoal of fish and a school of fish, thanks to Belardinelli (kinda).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 24 June, 2019, 05:27:30 AM
I could imagine Walter going crazy with a label maker one day and putting multiple tags on Dredd's lawgiver!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 June, 2019, 11:20:16 AM
I could imagine Walter going crazy with a label maker one day and putting multiple tags on Dredd's lawgiver!

You might be on to something there - the latest Wite to Walt has something about Walter sewing Dredd's name into his long johns...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 June, 2019, 01:03:21 AM
Prog 55: Bear… times six! Only one of you is real — the rest are clones that must be destroyed! But which ones do I kill? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/24/prog-55-bear-times-six-only-one-of-you-is-real-the-rest-are-clones-that-must-be-destroyed-but-which-ones-do-i-kill/)

Prog 56: Approaching planetary surface — now! Yaaaargh! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/25/prog-56-approaching-planetary-surface-now-yaaaargh/)

Prog 57: Another bash like that and we’re gonna burst open like a cracked egg! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/26/prog-57-another-bash-like-that-and-were-gonna-burst-open-like-a-cracked-egg/)
Creators get shuffled around to accomodate Star Lord's arrival in a month or two.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 June, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
As we enter the weekend, another two episodes have gone live...

Prog 58: L-look! Out there — it’s as big as a street-block! Yeah — an’ with our motor reactors DEAD, we’re completely at it’s mercy! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/27/prog-58-l-look-out-there-its-as-big-as-a-street-block-yeah-an-with-our-motor-reactors-dead-were-completely-at-its-mercy/)
What's the difference between cliffhanging and cliffhangering?  Bolland and McMahon share art duties on Dredd's last Luna-1 story.  Gary Leach makes his first appearance.

Prog 59: Mega City Beware – the Judge is back! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/prog-59-mega-city-beware-the-judge-is-back/)
Dan Dare and some crew member we've never met before try Viagra (or something that sounds very much like it) before plunging deep.  I also remember to mention that the co-founder of Forbidden Planet and Titan Books is writing stories for the prog now.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 29 June, 2019, 01:07:41 AM
This stuff with the Zeebs is really a prime example of Dan Dare deciding to wipe out an alien race because they've vaguely inconvenienced him. Classic battle-action playset stuff!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 June, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
This stuff with the Zeebs is really a prime example of Dan Dare deciding to wipe out an alien race because they've vaguely inconvenienced him. Classic battle-action playset stuff!

I'm sure his crimes will come back to haunt him some day!




I noticed something about one of the stamp adverts in Prog 58 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/27/prog-58-l-look-out-there-its-as-big-as-a-street-block-yeah-an-with-our-motor-reactors-dead-were-completely-at-its-mercy/), so have updated the blog with the following...
: me
f I’m not mistaken, this week’s Nerve Centre features the first contribution from a reader who will go on to be famous (admittedly this one would be famous in 2000AD circles only. Adrian Salmon presents a ‘hyper punk’ riding a bike. I missed this first time I read, but I also noticed that one of the obligatory stamp adverts looks like it’s been thrown together by the 2000AD editorial team – “? Can you name these planets – If so, you must have bionic eyes. Send us the correct answer and we’ll send you a selection of Zrag Stamps on approval plus your free 101 galaxy wide stamps. Martin Stamp Service (Dept 2000), 78 Barsoom Rd, Helium, Mars”

Back to regular programming...

Prog 60: M.A.C.H.1 meet your replacement… M.A.C.H.2! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/29/prog-60-m-a-c-h-1-meet-your-replacement-m-a-c-h-2/)
A cyborg special this prog, with MACH 1, MACH 2 (if 2 can be called a cyborg) and Artie Gruber, back from the dead!

Prog 61: Judge Dredd brings law to the… Cursed Earth! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/06/30/prog-61-judge-dredd-brings-law-to-the-cursed-earth/)
Dredd's return to Mega-City One - heralded for two progs, spends one and half progs on the streets, then leaves for the Cursed Earth a prog later!  Also, Remember the Great Germ War!  No, me neither...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 30 June, 2019, 02:51:53 PM
There are specific dates given in Harlem Heroes and Inferno - but I seem to recall that they imply that Inferno takes place about 130 years after Harlem Heroes. Or, possibly, the dates given in Inferno bear no realtion to the ones in Harlem Heroes.

Time distortion, that's what it is.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 June, 2019, 09:25:44 PM
There are specific dates given in Harlem Heroes and Inferno - but I seem to recall that they imply that Inferno takes place about 130 years after Harlem Heroes. Or, possibly, the dates given in Inferno bear no realtion to the ones in Harlem Heroes.

Time distortion, that's what it is.

The one I've just read (coming to the blog on Tuesday, I think) says that it's been two years since the game where Artie Gruber was first engulfed by flames in a match with Clay and one year since cyber-Gruber last faced Clay, which would have been in 2050 (because that's the world championship they were aiming at).  I haven't seen any other dates given in Inferno itself, just extrapolating and comparing to Harlem Heroes.  I've been making notes of dates as I go along (not just in Harlem Heroes/Inferno, but also in other stories), but not tried putting them all together yet...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 July, 2019, 12:42:35 AM
Prog 62: Can Commander Lorna Varn survive on… Death Planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/prog-62-can-commander-lorna-varn-survive-on-death-planet/)
Gruber returns in Inferno, Spikes Harvey Rotten returns in The Cursed Earth.

Prog 63: Beware of… RATS..! The Devil’s Lapdogs (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/02/prog-63-beware-of-rats-the-devils-lapdogs/)
Kids get bikes, mum's get cookers and dads get greenhouses!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 03 July, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
arsebiscuits, my work has revamped it's internet security and decided I can no longer look at wordpress - got a backlog of these to catch up on, but I'm loving 'em!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 03 July, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
Don't think I've said it yet, but I'm really enjoying reading these!  :thumbsup:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 04 July, 2019, 01:28:46 AM
Thanks for the votes of confidence!

Prog 64: Watch the Sky! UFO – reader’s report (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/03/prog-64-watch-the-sky-ufo-readers-report/)

The last episode of M.A.C.H.1!  A new sci-fi comic out, on the same day as Prog 64!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 July, 2019, 11:56:10 PM
It would have made more sense if I'd posted the Prog 64 link in the same post as the Star Lord No 1 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/04/star-lord-no-1-watch-the-stars/) link.  Watch the Stars, child soldiers!  In other news, the first appearances of great duos Johnny and Wulf, and ro-Jaws and Hammerstein!

Prog 65: Wuuuuuuuurgh! Zero is Back! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/prog-65-wuuuuuuuurgh-zero-is-back/)
Other than the obvious, Dave Gibbons gets to practice drawing giant alien tentacles.  Also, the return of the  third ever set of villains we saw Dredd face.  Also also - one parody of Evel Knieval dies, but don't worry, there'll be another along in a different strip by the end of the comic.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 07 July, 2019, 01:32:52 PM
Prog 65 was originally published on the same day as:

Star Lord Issue 2: You’ll never be the same after reading it! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/06/star-lord-issue-2-youll-never-be-the-same-after-reading-it/)
Mind Wars starts and a few long-running elements in Strontium Dog and Ro-Busters are introduced.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 09 July, 2019, 09:36:37 AM
On the same day the following were published:
Prog 66: I think I smell a rat! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/07/prog-66-i-think-i-smell-a-rat/)

Dave Gibbons draws huge tentacled aliens, I can't tell the different between Death Planet of the Damned and Massimo Belardinelli appears in the crowd of Inferno.

Star Lord No. 3: Fight your own Star Battles (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/08/star-lord-no-3-fight-your-own-star-battles/)

I take extra care not to confused the tale of people stranded on a deadly planet with other stories that are tales of people stranded on deadly planets, Dave Gibbons moonlights on Ro-Busters as well as this week's Dan Dare and a* gronk appears.



* not the Gronk, you understand...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 11 July, 2019, 12:35:24 AM
Cover date: 3 June 78 (so on the shelves the week before that):

Prog 67: MACH Zero in… Darts of Death! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/09/prog-67-mach-zero-in-darts-of-death/)

Walter returns!  Oh joy!  Though the even bigger news is the appearance of a certain President of the United States...

Star Lord No 4: Inside! Part One of a mind-stretching sci-fi game! It stars Strontium Dog… it’s called Hell Planet… it’s not for cowards! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/10/star-lord-no-4-inside-part-one-of-a-mind-stretching-sci-fi-game-it-stars-strontium-dog-its-called-hell-planet-its-not-for-cowards/)

The Nazi issue!  Whether you're in on a hostile planet in another dimension or Golders Green, you can't escape time or space Nazis!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 July, 2019, 12:35:47 AM
Prog 68: Ssssssssss Clay, now you’re gonna… DIE just like A…Artie! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/11/prog-68-ssssssssss-clay-now-youre-gonna-die-just-like-a-artie/)

MACH Zero goes all Dickensian, Walter ends, Dredd saves President Robert L Booth's life (Smooth Booth in this story, not Bad Bob Booth).

Star Lord No 5: This is gonna be a bad one, Hammer-Stein! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/star-lord-no-5-this-is-gonna-be-a-bad-one-hammer-stein/)

Is Doctor Varn from Star Lord's Mind Wars related to Lorna Varn from 2000AD's Death Planet?  After these two stories end, will there be any more of the Varn family in the pages of 2000AD, Star Lord or related publications?
 Questions like these won't be answered in my blog post (or anywhere).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 July, 2019, 12:43:09 AM
On one day in 1978 the following comics were published...

Prog 69: O.K., come quietly – or else there’ll be trouble! Tweak! (http://)

Star Lord No 6: Interstellar Federation invasion begins! You have been warned! (http://)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 July, 2019, 12:48:59 AM

And one week later the following pair were published.

Prog 70: Screee The Hell-bird is coming in for the kill! Time is running out for the survivors on the… Death Planet! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/15/prog-70-screee-the-hell-bird-is-coming-in-for-the-kill-time-is-running-out-for-the-survivors-on-the-death-planet/)
Female characters in boy's comics?  Zero, Dickensian-style, Tweak!

Star Lord No 7: Into forbidden worlds… beyond the limits of man’s imagination! Battle for survival on Planet of the Damned (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/star-lord-no-7-into-forbidden-worlds-beyond-the-limits-of-mans-imagination-battle-for-survival-on-planet-of-the-damned/)

Star Mind Wars, robot hotels, illusions, Nazis.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 July, 2019, 07:22:01 PM
Prog 71: Are YOU Prepared for… Ant Wars! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/prog-71-are-you-prepared-for-ant-wars/)

It's all about the food - eating ants, throwing mousse-covered pieces of cardboard at each other and don't forget the burgers!

Star Lord No 8: Nazi World 2478 A.D. Time Control 85 Million B.C. Torn between impossible worlds… (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/18/star-lord-no-8-nazi-world-2478-a-d-time-control-85-million-b-c-torn-between-impossible-worlds/)

Klee-Fang eats some fish, but Starlord is the comic to go to for Nazis!  Also the beginning of the three-parter SD story mentioned in the latest Space Spinner 2000 podcast (because it was reprinted in a special).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 July, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
All these came out on the same day...

Prog 72: Introducing… the 180 lb Judge Burger! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/prog-72-introducing-the-180-lb-judge-burger/)
MACH Zero does the impression of Samson, Dredd goes to MacDonald City and Inferno enters a time slip.  Plus Dave Gibbons brings us the Green Cross Code Man.  Tharg starts plugging Star Lord.

Star Lord No 9: Beware the war droid in Kill-Frenzy! You have the fire power of a cruiser, Hammer-Stein! – use it – destroy your comrade Ro-Jaws! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/20/star-lord-no-9-beware-the-war-droid-in-kill-frenzy-you-have-the-fire-power-of-a-cruiser-hammer-stein-use-it-destroy-your-comrade-ro-jaws/)
The Jugla go to Miami.  Wulf and Johnny are in a Jox trap.  As opposed to a jockstrap.  Starlord starts plugging 2000AD.

2000AD Sci-Fi Special 1978 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/21/2000ad-sci-fi-special-1978/)
Gary Leach, Kevin O'Neill, Trev Goring and 'Space Chicks' - really hope that last one was forced in by management.  Rick Random was better than I was expecting/remembering - but y'know, the bar was low on that one.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 July, 2019, 05:50:23 PM
By the way - I'm really dreading certain days in 1979 and 1980 - the publication of 2000AD annuals before they got good, Tornado annuals and Starlord Annuals, but at least 1980 will have the Judge Dredd annual 1981...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 22 July, 2019, 01:36:38 AM
These early specials and annuals are...not great. Don't forget the 79 and 80 Dan Dare annuals, they have 2000AD content!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 July, 2019, 02:27:48 AM
These early specials and annuals are...not great. Don't forget the 79 and 80 Dan Dare annuals, they have 2000AD content!

If only I could!  They're all on my shelf, don't worry.



"Wind resistance"
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 22 July, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Sheridan lad, this slog is absolutely bitchin', or whatever it is the kids say these days.  Keep it up!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 July, 2019, 12:58:40 PM
Sheridan lad, this slog is absolutely bitchin', or whatever it is the kids say these days.  Keep it up!

Thanks - luckily wordpress lets me see how many people are viewing it each day, so I know lack of commentary doesn't mean lack of interest :-)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 July, 2019, 11:35:17 PM
Sheridan lad, this slog is absolutely bitchin', or whatever it is the kids say these days.  Keep it up!

Thanks - luckily wordpress lets me see how many people are viewing it each day, so I know lack of commentary doesn't mean lack of interest :-)

(but, y'know having people tell me directly always helps with motivation as well)

With cover dates of 15 July 1978:

Prog 73: Harry Winthrop was a meek mild mannered man, until he tried on… The Suit. The power… the pain… the Suit! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/prog-73-harry-winthrop-was-a-meek-mild-mannered-man-until-he-tried-on-the-suit-the-power-the-pain-the-suit/)

Looking pretty similar to the (human-sized) toy robot from the sci-fi special is a prototype exo-skeleton.  But the main attraction this prog is Satanus!

Star Lord No 10: Death at Warp Factor 9 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/23/star-lord-no-10-death-at-warp-factor-9/)

The twins arrive on Earth!  The Strontium Dog three-parter has a predictable but enjoyable ending.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 24 July, 2019, 01:53:15 PM
Star Lord No 10: Death at Warp Factor 9 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/23/star-lord-no-10-death-at-warp-factor-9/)

The twins arrive on Earth!  The Strontium Dog three-parter has a predictable but enjoyable ending.

The song in Ro-Busters is based on 'Cool' from West Side Story by Bernstein and Sondheim - shame they didn't use a Rodgers and Hammerstein tune, really - or had another pair of robots, army surplus ABC Warrior Burn-Stein (armed with a flamethrower) and his pal, Soundhelm (some sort of talking hat or something), who in turn introduce their friends, Gill-bot (some sort of frogman-like ABC Warrior) and Surleyvan (a bad tempered transit van with a Bronx accent).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Frank 24 July, 2019, 02:15:05 PM
The song in Ro-Busters is based on 'Cool' from West Side Story by Bernstein and Sondheim - shame they didn't use a Rodgers and Hammerstein tune, really - or had another pair of robots, army surplus ABC Warrior Burn-Stein (armed with a flamethrower) and his pal, Soundhelm (some sort of talking hat or something), who in turn introduce their friends, Gill-bot (some sort of frogman-like ABC Warrior) and Surleyvan (a bad tempered transit van with a Bronx accent).

Mills should subcontract you to conduct script-polishes on his current stuff. Once you've bent over backwards to accommodate such tortured wordplay, there's much less room left for exposing lizard people at the Home Office/The One Show.


: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 July, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
Star Lord No 10: Death at Warp Factor 9 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/23/star-lord-no-10-death-at-warp-factor-9/)

The twins arrive on Earth!  The Strontium Dog three-parter has a predictable but enjoyable ending.

The song in Ro-Busters is based on 'Cool' from West Side Story by Bernstein and Sondheim - shame they didn't use a Rodgers and Hammerstein tune, really - or had another pair of robots, army surplus ABC Warrior Burn-Stein (armed with a flamethrower) and his pal, Soundhelm (some sort of talking hat or something), who in turn introduce their friends, Gill-bot (some sort of frogman-like ABC Warrior) and Surleyvan (a bad tempered transit van with a Bronx accent).

That's one weird song - thanks!  I'll have to re-read that episode while playing the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugWGhItaQA).  But not now as I have an appointment with Bladerunner, in honour of Rutger Hauer *sniff*.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 26 July, 2019, 08:51:58 PM
22nd July 1978 publications:

Prog 74: Flesh (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/24/prog-74-flesh/)
Old One Eye returns!  (as a cameo flashback)

Star Lord No 11: ‘My brain is a time-bomb – programmed to DESTROY ALL HUMAN LIFE’ (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/star-lord-no-11-my-brain-is-a-time-bomb-programmed-to-destroy-all-human-life/)
Is the Ritz Space Hotel story inspired by Star Wars?  (well, one scene in it, anyway)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 July, 2019, 12:32:56 PM
29th July 1978:

Prog 75: Have you the nerve to play the Cursed Earth game? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/prog-75-have-you-the-nerve-to-play-the-cursed-earth-game/)
The end of Inferno - as rushed as the last episode of Harlem Heroes, but the characters ain't going to be coming back again.  Zero also ends, for the time being.

Star Lord No 12: Experience body-shock now! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/27/star-lord-no-12-experience-body-shock-now/)
First paragraph of the latest post informed by the swipe file thread on this very forum!
The seeds of robot rebellion are trailed - I'm still holding out for a follow-up to the robo-utopia story from Rise and Fall of Ro-Jaws and Hammerstein (or is it Fall and Rise?) - more about that when I get to the story - i.e. well after 2000AD matches with Star Lord.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 28 July, 2019, 01:58:02 AM
Ant Wars really reminds me of Big Trouble in Little China, a riff on a classical adventure story where the traditional protagonist is a blustering jerk and the real hero is the supposed side-kick. That said, I love the classic AW pulp trope of: "Watch out, giant ants!" "Giant ants? I don't believe it" "Oh no, I'm being eaten by giant ants!"
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 28 July, 2019, 09:15:46 AM
The end of Inferno - as rushed as the last episode of Harlem Heroes, but the characters ain't going to be coming back again.

It's probably for the best that Louis was killed off so abruptly - in a world where they have humanoid androids so convincing that Zack actually falls in love with one of them, Louis chooses to have a transparent glass head so that you can see his brain sort of... sloshing about. Pretty sure that's a sign of being a real baddie.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 July, 2019, 10:37:46 PM
Cover dated 5th of August 1978:

Prog 76: Introducing the man called… Robo-Hunter! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/28/prog-76-introducing-the-man-called-robo-hunter/)
Sam Slade appears while Satanus disappears under a burning church.

Star Lord No 13: Let Me at him, Billy! Quit jawing, jack-ass! He won’t escape the laser lash! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/star-lord-no-13-let-me-at-him-billy-quit-jawing-jack-ass-he-wont-escape-the-laser-lash/)
Ardeni Lakam dies!  In the future, airlines will use shell-shocked ex-war robots with dented heads as pilots - what can go wrong?  (I bet they bought it as war surplus from one of the Quartz brothers).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 July, 2019, 10:46:16 PM

Ant Wars really reminds me of Big Trouble in Little China, a riff on a classical adventure story where the traditional protagonist is a blustering jerk and the real hero is the supposed side-kick. That said, I love the classic AW pulp trope of: "Watch out, giant ants!" "Giant ants? I don't believe it" "Oh no, I'm being eaten by giant ants!"


I don't know how I managed to watch Big Trouble and think Jack was the hero instead of Wang Chi (I guess being a kid at the time contributed).  The Almighty Sidekick (http://www.thebackseatdriverreviews.com/the-almighty-sidekick-the-real-hero-of-big-trouble-in-little-china)


I wonder how well this applies to Kee Nang in The Golden Child?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 July, 2019, 10:49:45 PM
The end of Inferno - as rushed as the last episode of Harlem Heroes, but the characters ain't going to be coming back again.

It's probably for the best that Louis was killed off so abruptly - in a world where they have humanoid androids so convincing that Zack actually falls in love with one of them, Louis chooses to have a transparent glass head so that you can see his brain sort of... sloshing about. Pretty sure that's a sign of being a real baddie.


Previously he's been a brain in a jar - who knows what prosphetic he'd have picked if he'd had another death sport to get involved with?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 31 July, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
12th August 1978:

Prog 77: Ho ho ho – what have we here, little man… (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/30/prog-77-ho-ho-ho-what-have-we-here-little-man/)
Robo-Hunter takes place on 13th May 2140 - very rare that exact dates are given in 2000AD!  Dan Dare is kidnapped by Gunnar (not that one) and Jack Adrian introduces Dredd to the Jolly Green Giant - I'm sure that's not going to cause any problems!  Rio is attacked by ants!

Star Lord No 14: Doomsday is just around the corner for Carl Hunter in Holocaust! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/07/31/star-lord-no-14-doomsday-is-just-around-the-corner-for-carl-hunter-in-holocaust/)
Ardeni takes a shower.  Later on Ardeni has a bath (while being watched by an alien hypnotic bird).  Wulf meets The Gronk (not just any gronk).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 02 August, 2019, 02:38:55 AM
If there’s one knock against the Cursed Earth as it appears in the progs is all the color pages sacrificed for the board game. Such a waste!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 02 August, 2019, 09:46:45 AM
If there’s one knock against the Cursed Earth as it appears in the progs is all the color pages sacrificed for the board game. Such a waste!

Tell me about it - it doesn't even look like that great a board game!

Did you ever play the Flesh! card game from the early progs?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 02 August, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
Quick update before the weekend - if you had 21p spare in 1978 then you could spend it on these two:

Prog 78: War Declared on Humanity! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/01/prog-78-war-declared-on-humanity/)
A Jack Adrian dominated prog.

Star Lord No 15: Earth Star-Squad hit by Droon! No Survivors! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/02/star-lord-no-15-earth-star-squad-hit-by-droon-no-survivors/)
J. Adrian takes us to the moon, 19 years before Dredd was Marshal there.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 04 August, 2019, 12:07:46 PM
2000AD Prog 79: Dredd in Las Vegas (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/03/2000ad-prog-79-dredd-in-las-vegas/)
It's just Ian Gibson on Robo-Hunter now.  All the ants are killed.  Yes, all the ants.  Every single one.

Star Lord No 16: Massacre on the Moon! All our mates are being wiped out, Ro-Jaws – and we could be next! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/04/star-lord-no-16-massacre-on-the-moon-all-our-mates-are-being-wiped-out-ro-jaws-and-we-could-be-next/)
Cellu-Wagnerfoam dome walls are all the rage on the moon!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Magnetica 04 August, 2019, 01:34:50 PM
Just loved those Starlord Robusters stories. The artists don’t seem to get the recognition they deserve 40 years later, especially Carlos Pino. Apart from Ian Kennedy obviously.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 05 August, 2019, 05:23:13 AM
If there’s one knock against the Cursed Earth as it appears in the progs is all the color pages sacrificed for the board game. Such a waste!

Tell me about it - it doesn't even look like that great a board game!

Did you ever play the Flesh! card game from the early progs?

We always talked big about playing all the games, but so far the only one we've done is tomb of terror, because it was just in the prog, no cutting out required!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 August, 2019, 01:01:21 PM
If there’s one knock against the Cursed Earth as it appears in the progs is all the color pages sacrificed for the board game. Such a waste!

Tell me about it - it doesn't even look like that great a board game!

Did you ever play the Flesh! card game from the early progs?

We always talked big about playing all the games, but so far the only one we've done is tomb of terror, because it was just in the prog, no cutting out required!

One day I'll get copies of those cards, print 'em out, laminate* them and take them to Lawless and/or other comic conventions with large Squaxx contingent.

* has to be laminated because these things usually take place in hotel bars and we'd want to play cards, not stick them to the tables!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 05 August, 2019, 01:11:13 PM
I used to cut out all those games, and after ruining my progs assembling dozens of fiddly counters, the actual gameplay was always disappointing - I seem to recall they were either insultingly simple and boring or ridiculously complex and boring.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 August, 2019, 01:27:51 PM
I used to cut out all those games, and after ruining my progs assembling dozens of fiddly counters, the actual gameplay was always disappointing - I seem to recall they were either insultingly simple and boring or ridiculously complex and boring.

I read a similar review somewhere else recently (possibly posted by yourself on another thread).  But I've gotta find out for myself!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 05 August, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
I used to cut out all those games, and after ruining my progs assembling dozens of fiddly counters, the actual gameplay was always disappointing - I seem to recall they were either insultingly simple and boring or ridiculously complex and boring.

I read a similar review somewhere else recently (possibly posted by yourself on another thread).  But I've gotta find out for myself!

I did mention it elsewhere recently!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 06 August, 2019, 12:41:01 PM
2000AD Prog 80: You come any closer Mr. Robot and… …Robo-Hunter will get you! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/2000ad-prog-80-you-come-any-closer-mr-robot-and-robo-hunter-will-get-you/)
The moment of truth approaches - Tharg is plugging the 2000AD 1979 annual - if you'll remember, trying to plough through that was what ground the prog slog blog to a halt two years ago!  Giant ants go on a tour of South America.

Star Lord No 17: It is Planet Earth’s last day – for this is the Day of the Clone, the Day of… Clone Wars! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/star-lord-no-17-it-is-planet-earths-last-day-for-this-is-the-day-of-the-clone-the-day-of-clone-wars/)
The first non-Carlos Strontium Dog!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 06 August, 2019, 09:20:54 PM
Appreciate the mentions! Ant Wars has a lot going on under the surface, for the record :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 06 August, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

I'm enjoying these, but c'mon mate, give it a rest! How's a man supposed to keep up* with this rate of thrillpower?

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

(*especially since our work tightened internet security and decided that most blog sites were verboten, so can't read these or the Thrillshots anymore  :()
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 06 August, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
I enjoyed that, but c'mon mate, pick up the pace - my great-grandchildren will be reading witty reviews of Necropolis at this rate!

I'm enjoying these, but c'mon mate, give it a rest! How's a man supposed to keep up* with this rate of thrillpower?

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

(*especially since our work tightened internet security and decided that most blog sites were verboten, so can't read these or the Thrillshots anymore  :()

Don't worry - if I'm going to falter, it'll be in the next few days - I'm on the annuals at the moment and there's a lot of tedious text features and reprints from the pre-2000AD / Star Wars era (i.e. the kind of things that Mills and Wagner were trying to get away from).  I was almost a week ahead with scheduled posts, but that's slipping...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 06 August, 2019, 11:10:28 PM
Appreciate the mentions! Ant Wars has a lot going on under the surface, for the record :D

No worries - it's been great listening to the early podcasts now that I've read them recently - just listening to you and Fox talking about the incorrect predictions on which Beatles survived to 1999!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 07 August, 2019, 06:19:23 PM
Appreciate the mentions! Ant Wars has a lot going on under the surface, for the record :D

No worries - it's been great listening to the early podcasts now that I've read them recently - just listening to you and Fox talking about the incorrect predictions on which Beatles survived to 1999!

That's where I believe the main 2000AD timeline diverges from our own!

Good luck with the early annuals, until 1980 and the Dredd annual they can be ROUGH.

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 08 August, 2019, 01:00:04 AM
2000AD Prog 81: Dan Dare Guardian of the Galaxy (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/06/2000ad-prog-81-dan-dare-guardian-of-the-galaxy/)

Tharg gives away spoilers for the end of Flesh Book II - even though it hasn't even begun yet!  Questionable robots in Robo-Hunter.  Anteater saves the day.  Tweak gets his turn in the spotlight.

Star Lord No 18: I can invade minds, stop time, warp space… I have the power! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/07/star-lord-no-18-i-can-invade-minds-stop-time-warp-space-i-have-the-power/)

The power of greyskull!  Sorry, wrong franchise...
Strontium Dog sees its third artist in as many episodes - for those with the Agency Files - are the Starlord McCarthy / Gibson episodes not included?  I think I read somewhere that it's only King Carlos stories in the first collection?


Status report - still (stuck) on the Dan Dare annual - it's the reprints and text stories that does it!  I've still got the second half of the Rick Random story to plough through (please let it be a half, and not a third)...

p.s. I'm pretty sure I already know what my favourite quote from the annual is going to be - it should be published on Monday (assuming I ever actually finish reading the rest).  Any guesses out there what it's going to be? 
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 08 August, 2019, 08:36:35 AM
Strontium Dog sees its third artist in as many episodes - for those with the Agency Files - are the Starlord McCarthy / Gibson episodes not included?  I think I read somewhere that it's only King Carlos stories in the first collection?

Don't know where you heard that, but the books include everything (though in disappointing mono).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 August, 2019, 04:25:10 PM
Four things were published this day, but my blog post on the last of them won't get published until Monday, so here are the first two - the weekly comics:

2000AD Prog 82: Alien Roots (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/09/2000ad-prog-82-alien-roots/)
Girls read 2000AD (but only Irish girls for some reason).  Gavara tries to overthrow the rulers!  Spikes and Tweak make a deal!

Star Lord No 19: Mek-Quake kill 99% of all known robots! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/star-lord-no-19-mek-quake-kill-99-of-all-known-robots/)
Tilman gets naked with Ardeni!  Hammerstein vs Mek-Quake!  A protagonist drawn by Ian Gibson keeps away from his blonde-haired niece to protect her!

On Monday I'll post the links to the two annuals (or you can do the wordpress subscribe thing and get sent an email at the time they're published).

p.s. last Sunday I was a week ahead, with posts prepped and scheduled for publication up to this Sunday coming.  Now it's Saturday and the latest post I have scheduled is for Monday - dreading the 1980 annuals - there's four of them, and none of them will be all that great!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 August, 2019, 10:32:09 PM
The 1979 annuals!

2000AD Annual 1979 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/2000ad-annual-1979/)
Wodpress predicts it will take you 11 minutes to read this one...
Reprints of comics your parents read when they were your age!  Your favourite characters, by creative teams who have never been near them before!  Even more reprints of comics your parents read!

Dan Dare Annual 1979 – Destroy that starcarrier or the whole galaxy will be enslaved! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/12/dan-dare-annual-1979-destroy-that-starcarrier-or-the-whole-galaxy-will-be-enslaved/)
Reprints of old comics!  Unfamiliar teams on familiar characters!  Plus the added bonus of lots of articles about the near future (the past now - and it was highly inaccurate)!  Stock images!  14 minutes if you read at the approved Wordpress reading speed!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 13 August, 2019, 05:25:30 AM
I think a lot of the Invasion episodes were other war stories re-purposed, there's one in a later annual where Bill uses an assault rifle instead of a shotgun. SHOCKING!

Good work with these annuals, for Space Spinner they're about the same size as our average number of progs, but they're way longer than one prog at a time!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 13 August, 2019, 09:53:48 AM
I salute your dedication - can't believe you actually read all those articles...!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 August, 2019, 11:47:42 AM
I salute your dedication - can't believe you actually read all those articles...!

What can I say - I'm stubborn!  Though I have managed to learn to ditch boring books in favour of the ones that actually interest me (only took me about twenty or thirty years for that one).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 August, 2019, 11:48:18 AM
I salute your dedication - can't believe you actually read all those articles...!

What can I say - I'm stubborn!  Though I have managed to learn to ditch boring books in favour of the ones that actually interest me (only took me about twenty or thirty years for that one).

That is - learnt to stop reading books I've started once I work out they're not going to get any better...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 August, 2019, 10:14:18 PM
After the annuals, back to normal!

2000AD Prog 83: Stomm! Now the DEAD are rising to challenge the law! Dredd vs- the Legion of the Damned! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/2000ad-prog-83-stomm-now-the-dead-are-rising-to-challenge-the-law-dredd-vs-the-legion-of-the-damned/)
Allegations of stealing ideas for thrills rear their ugly heads!  Smokin' Joe is in sight!  The lights of MC2 are also in sight!

Star Lord No 20: Washington – the hub of the United States and… The most frightened city on Earth! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/star-lord-no-20-washington-the-hub-of-the-united-states-and-the-most-frightened-city-on-earth/)
Mind Wars passes the Bechdel-Wallace Test - the first time in 2000AD/Starlord's history?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 16 August, 2019, 01:17:01 PM
2000AD Prog 84: Ant Wars rages on! “For they shall inherit the Earth.” H.G. Wells (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/15/2000ad-prog-84-ant-wars-rages-on-for-they-shall-inherit-the-earth-h-g-wells/)
Great news, readers!  ...and you know what that means for a British comic!  No sooner does Slade find Smokin' Joe than he takes a break.  Cliffhanger - Dredd, Tweak and Spikes defending against the mek army and one must die!  And then another one will go missing!  Cliffhanger - Villa is in the lair of the ant queens and sees something!

Star Lord No 21: Guardian of the Dark Star! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/16/star-lord-no-21-guardian-of-the-dark-star/)
Cliffhanger - is Ardeni dead?  Cliffhanger - bad guys are in control of Ro-Busters and Miss Marilyn gets threatened!  Cliffhanger - Johnny and Wulf have to defuse the ultimate weapon!  Cliffhanger - Hunter is surrounded by alien zombies!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 16 August, 2019, 02:18:54 PM
2000AD Prog 84: Ant Wars rages on! “For they shall inherit the Earth.” H.G. Wells (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/15/2000ad-prog-84-ant-wars-rages-on-for-they-shall-inherit-the-earth-h-g-wells/)
Great news, readers!  ...and you know what that means for a British comic!  No sooner does Slade find Smokin' Joe than he takes a break.  Cliffhanger - Dredd, Tweak and Spikes defending against the mek army and one must die!  And then another one will go missing!  Cliffhanger - Villa is in the lair of the ant queens and sees something!

Star Lord No 21: Guardian of the Dark Star! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/16/star-lord-no-21-guardian-of-the-dark-star/)
Cliffhanger - is Ardeni dead?  Cliffhanger - bad guys are in control of Ro-Busters and Miss Marilyn gets threatened!  Cliffhanger - Johnny and Wulf have to defuse the ultimate weapon!  Cliffhanger - Hunter is surrounded by alien zombies!

I think maybe that the merger has disrupted the credits - I'm absolutely certain that isn't Mike White on Mind Wars, but those zombies in the otherwise uncredited Holocaust definately look like his work, even if the colour two page spread appears to be by someone else entirely. And the credit given to TB Grover for the Cursed Earth episodes may just be a way of balancing the books, as Pat Mills was given the writing credit for the first part of Burger Wars even though he didn't write it (Dredd's Last Stand is credited to Pat Mills on every reprint I've got access too, though).

That letter from those two kids at boarding school is absolutely heartbreaking, and the language is probably the most dated thing ever printed in Star Lord. It's look looking at a different planet. What are 'lead joints', anyway...?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 August, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
I think maybe that the merger has disrupted the credits - I'm absolutely certain that isn't Mike White on Mind Wars, but those zombies in the otherwise uncredited Holocaust definately look like his work, even if the colour two page spread appears to be by someone else entirely. And the credit given to TB Grover for the Cursed Earth episodes may just be a way of balancing the books, as Pat Mills was given the writing credit for the first part of Burger Wars even though he didn't write it (Dredd's Last Stand is credited to Pat Mills on every reprint I've got access too, though).

Yeah, Mind Wars is, as ever, drawn by Jesus Redondo.  (As ever apart from that one episode that has a shared credit with Ian Gibson.)  Not entirely convinced by the Mike White theory - next time I come across his work (in my chronological reading) I'll try to remember to dig out this episode, compare and contrast.  As for the balancing - everyone knows Wagner and Grant took turns taking credit, though I've not heard of the same for Wagner and Mills before.  I'm holding off reading Thrill-Power Overload (the old version), The Mighty One and Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave until I get to their release dates.

That letter from those two kids at boarding school is absolutely heartbreaking, and the language is probably the most dated thing ever printed in Star Lord. It's look looking at a different planet. What are 'lead joints', anyway...?

No idea - I did some investigating and only found webpages on soldering pipes.  Then I added the 'd' word and only found "lead joint co-ordinators".  I wonder what every day language we use now will be considered pejorative  in another forty years? 

Today's post is 2000AD Prog 85: This Cursed Earth will not break me I am the law I am Dredd… Judge Dredd! Don’t dare miss the thrilling climax to the Cursed Earth in this power packed prog!!! Plus Important news for all readers inside! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/17/2000ad-prog-85-this-cursed-earth-will-not-break-me-i-am-the-law-i-am-dredd-judge-dredd-dont-dare-miss-the-thrilling-climax-to-the-cursed-earth-in-this-power-packed-prog-plus-important-ne/)

The last prog of 2000AD to be published for a year * features:
Tomorrow - the last Star Lord (not counting a summer special and a few annuals).  The day after tomorrow - is a film about cold weather, but also will see the first 2000AD and Starlord!

* because the next week sees 2000AD and Starlord, which runs for a year, until 2000AD and Tornado takes over, which itself runs for a year until another jumping-on prog.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 18 August, 2019, 12:16:07 PM
Yeah, Mind Wars is, as ever, drawn by Jesus Redondo.  (As ever apart from that one episode that has a shared credit with Ian Gibson.)  Not entirely convinced by the Mike White theory - next time I come across his work (in my chronological reading) I'll try to remember to dig out this episode, compare and contrast.  As for the balancing - everyone knows Wagner and Grant took turns taking credit, though I've not heard of the same for Wagner and Mills before.  I'm holding off reading Thrill-Power Overload (the old version), The Mighty One and Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave until I get to their release dates.

For some reason, the first four fourth Doctor comic strips from Doctor Who Weekly are credited to both Pat Mills and John Wagner, even though they didn't actually colaborate on them  - 'The Iron Legion' and 'The Star Beast' are credited to 'Mills and Wagner' even though they were written by Pat Mills, and 'City of the Damned' and 'The Dogs of Doom' are credited to 'Wagner and Mills' even though they were by John  Wagner on his own. No one seems to remember why they did it that way, though...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 18 August, 2019, 12:34:25 PM
Ha, beat me to it with the dr who stuff.

Enjoying the Starlord reviews - I haven’t read the collected Mind Wars floppies yet, but I hadn’t realised just how often Ardeni gets naked!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 August, 2019, 03:11:48 PM
The last Starlord!

Star Lord No 22: Starlord’s ship is waiting to carry him… Beyond the Stars! See inside! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/18/star-lord-no-22-starlords-ship-is-waiting-to-carry-him-beyond-the-stars-see-inside/)

Hurried endings to clear the decks for a merger, to varying degrees of success...

Plus I ramble a bit about Starlord as a whole.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 August, 2019, 03:12:38 PM
Enjoying the Starlord reviews - I haven’t read the collected Mind Wars floppies yet, but I hadn’t realised just how often Ardeni gets naked!

My work here is done.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Funt Solo 18 August, 2019, 06:22:38 PM
Enjoying the in depth reviews, but mostly just reading rather than responding. Starlord I never read but was aware of peripherally as the McKenzie boys up at the farm had some when I was a kid.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 19 August, 2019, 06:05:34 AM
Enjoying the in depth reviews, but mostly just reading rather than responding.

Agreed, loving the coverage!

I'm looking forward to you coverage of the merger. I know for us Ro-Busters and Strontium Dog were initially a bit jarring, because the Strontium Dog story didn't give them a chance to show of their cool time gear, and the Ro-Busters stories were mostly either flashbacks or stories that didn't feature the actual team very much (Terra Meks is amazing, but doesn't have any regular characters besides Howard Quartz and a bit of Mek Quake).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 August, 2019, 08:32:46 PM
The merger has now been published!

2000AD and Star Lord Prog 86: This is it! The big one! Two sci-fi greats unite in a giant leap for mankind! Join them and smash the thrill barrier! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/19/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-86-this-is-it-the-big-one-two-sci-fi-greats-unite-in-a-giant-leap-for-mankind-join-them-and-smash-the-thrill-barrier/)

Two from 2000AD and two from Starlord, both of which will run for a significant period - a proper merger (I'm looking at you, Tornado).

I'm wondering who Geoffrey Miller is or was?  I've got an inkling the name might be a pseudonym, but for whom?  (apologies if you're a real person, Geoffrey!)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 August, 2019, 12:15:09 AM
Yesterday's post: 2000AD and Star Lord Prog 87: Dinosaurs rule in Flesh Book 2 (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/20/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-87-dinosaurs-rule-in-flesh-book-2/)

Flesh Book II's Old One Eye equivalent makes their appearance!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 August, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
2000AD and Star Lord Prog 88: Hammer-stein and a Cast of Thousands in… Yesterday’s Hero He was a robot in a man’s war!!! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/21/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-88-hammer-stein-and-a-cast-of-thousands-in-yesterdays-hero-he-was-a-robot-in-a-mans-war/)

Hammerstein has his moment in the spotlight, beginning this prog.  Also, the ties between Ro-Busters and Invasion are laid down (if I can mix metaphors).

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 August, 2019, 07:48:14 PM
p.s. this is almost the busiest month the blog has seen since I started the slog three years ago (and then kicked it off again prior to my appearance on the Mega-City Book Club).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 22 August, 2019, 05:21:54 PM
2000AD and Star Lord Prog 89: Don’t die *sob* dear Judge Dwedd – please don’t die! Murder in Mega-City One! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-89-dont-die-sob-dear-judge-dwedd-please-dont-die-murder-in-mega-city-one/)

Dredd dead! *ahem*, Quincy has to do games in his pants!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 23 August, 2019, 07:44:14 AM
Having not read Starlord I found the Preying Mantis cut-aways maddening. It's so cool in a Thunderhawks way, and the only time we really see it in the progs is when it makes a brief cameo in Fall & Rise of Rojaws and Hammerstein.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 August, 2019, 08:53:16 AM
Having not read Starlord I found the Preying Mantis cut-aways maddening. It's so cool in a Thunderhawks way, and the only time we really see it in the progs is when it makes a brief cameo in Fall & Rise of Rojaws and Hammerstein.

You haven't missed much - even in Starlord it's mostly a background feature.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 August, 2019, 12:57:54 AM
2000AD and Star Lord Prog 90: Galaxy-crunching atom-splitting Sci-Fi! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/23/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-90-galaxy-crunching-atom-splitting-sci-fi/)
A new Chief Judge means a new Deputy Chief Judge!  *bloop* (quote not actually in the comic).

2000AD and Star Lord Prog 91: Out of the way, Volgs – us war droids are programmed never to surrender! Hammer-stein is… Mek-Warrior! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/24/2000ad-and-star-lord-prog-91-out-of-the-way-volgs-us-war-droids-are-programmed-never-to-surrender-hammer-stein-is-mek-warrior/)
A good prog for exploring the Volgan language...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 August, 2019, 10:25:20 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 92: I, Tharg, have journeyed from the depths of space… Do you dare to share my travels? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/25/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-92-i-tharg-have-journeyed-from-the-depths-of-space-do-you-dare-to-share-my-travels/)

First appearance: Mayor Grubb.  Last appearance: Hammer-stein's war memoirs (unless you count the ABC Warriors).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 26 August, 2019, 02:11:49 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 93: No! Please let me drown before the giant scorpions get to me! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/26/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-93-no-please-let-me-drown-before-the-giant-scorpions-get-to-me/)

Cal takes a bath.  Ro-Jaws falls into the hands of the Robot Investigation Police!  Johnny, Wulf and the Gronk take baths.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 August, 2019, 01:24:29 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 94: Citizens of Mega-City One, I sentence you to… Death! Can no-one stop the insance Judge Cal? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/27/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-94-citizens-of-mega-city-one-i-sentence-you-to-death-can-no-one-stop-the-insance-judge-cal/)
Kleggs!  Ginger!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 August, 2019, 12:58:18 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 95: Burn them – burn the robot rebels! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/28/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-95-burn-them-burn-the-robot-rebels/)
The Deputy Chief Judge dies!
Ro-Jaws meets the Robot Resistance!
Men garbed in Black investigate flying saucers!





















...and Angel.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 29 August, 2019, 09:11:32 AM
Angel really feels like a second bite at the MACH 1 apple, though I always think of him as a plane-based Spider-Man. "An accidental crash with a radioactive jet has given pilot Harry Angel the proportional strength, speed, and agility of a jet!"

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 August, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
Angel really feels like a second bite at the MACH 1 apple, though I always think of him as a plane-based Spider-Man. "An accidental crash with a radioactive jet has given pilot Harry Angel the proportional strength, speed, and agility of a jet!"

Both work for me :-)

2000AD and Starlord Prog 96: We’re gonna hit him! That guy’s dead… unless he’s – Superman! Eject into hell with – Angel! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/29/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-96-were-gonna-hit-him-that-guys-dead-unless-hes-superman-eject-into-hell-with-angel/)

A new non-human Deputy Chief Judge!  Exodus!  The ruler builds a wall!

2000AD and Starlord Prog 97: We take… a giant step for comic-kind every week! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/30/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-97-we-take-a-giant-step-for-comic-kind-every-week/)

Ginger dies!  Don't worry, he'll get better...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 30 August, 2019, 05:43:32 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 96: We’re gonna hit him! That guy’s dead… unless he’s – Superman! Eject into hell with – Angel! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/29/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-96-were-gonna-hit-him-that-guys-dead-unless-hes-superman-eject-into-hell-with-angel/)

A new non-human Deputy Chief Judge!  Exodus!  The ruler builds a wall!

2000AD and Starlord Prog 97: We take… a giant step for comic-kind every week! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/30/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-97-we-take-a-giant-step-for-comic-kind-every-week/)

Ginger dies!  Don't worry, he'll get better...

Ginger's story in Ro-Busters is lifted more or less directly from the novel Black Beauty, by the way - Beauty's fiesty friend Ginger is systematically broken down with over work and is eventually spotted being carted off to the knacker's yard, because it's a Victorian morality story and they're unrelentingly grim.

There's a racehorse called Harry Angel now. It regularly beats Zarjaz. It's all terribly confusing...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 31 August, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 96: We’re gonna hit him! That guy’s dead… unless he’s – Superman! Eject into hell with – Angel! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/29/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-96-were-gonna-hit-him-that-guys-dead-unless-hes-superman-eject-into-hell-with-angel/)

A new non-human Deputy Chief Judge!  Exodus!  The ruler builds a wall!

2000AD and Starlord Prog 97: We take… a giant step for comic-kind every week! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/30/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-97-we-take-a-giant-step-for-comic-kind-every-week/)

Ginger dies!  Don't worry, he'll get better...

Ginger's story in Ro-Busters is lifted more or less directly from the novel Black Beauty, by the way - Beauty's fiesty friend Ginger is systematically broken down with over work and is eventually spotted being carted off to the knacker's yard, because it's a Victorian morality story and they're unrelentingly grim.

There's a racehorse called Harry Angel now. It regularly beats Zarjaz. It's all terribly confusing...

The Black Beauty reference went completely over my head - thanks for pointing it out (wonder if that one is hiding in the things that went over your head (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=35063.1150) thread?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 01 September, 2019, 07:13:17 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 98: Onward, my beauties – sing while you slaughter! Slicey-slicey, oncey-twicey claw and fang’ll kill Dredd nicely! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/08/31/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-98-onward-my-beauties-sing-while-you-slaughter-slicey-slicey-oncey-twicey-claw-and-fangll-kill-dredd-nicely/)

A new droid joins the editorial team!  We see Justice 1 for the first time (it doesn't look very space-going).  Massimo gets replaced on Flesh Book II - I wonder what he's up to instead...  Also, the Terra-Meks begins!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 03 September, 2019, 10:57:29 PM
Has it been three days since I posted here?

2000AD and Starlord Prog 99: The Terra-Mek’s hurling us into its atomic grinders… We’ll be crushed to a pulp! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/01/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-99-the-terra-meks-hurling-us-into-its-atomic-grinders-well-be-crushed-to-a-pulp/)

Crime is legal, Angel finishes (thankfully) as does Flesh (not so thankfully), Kevin O'Neill gets into the interviewing lark.  Meanwhile, in Northpool we know things have gotten serious because there's a mournful dog and a teddy bear (not in the same frame).

2000AD and Starlord Prog 100: 100th Thrill-powered issue! Robo-Hunter Returns Still fighting – Still in trouble! Did Dan Dare die? Find out in Servant of Evil! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/02/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-100-100th-thrill-powered-issue-robo-hunter-returns-still-fighting-still-in-trouble-did-dan-dare-die-find-out-in-servant-of-evil/)
Angel / Flesh Book II is replaced with Dan Dare, more superheroic than ever before.  But at least the same prog also gets a new character - Fergee (not Fergie).

2000AD and Starlord Prog 101: I… must… obey… the… Mekon! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/03/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-101-i-must-obey-the-mekon/)
Another new superhero is born - E-Man!  (who?)  Charlie is all at sea.  Sam Slade and Kidd have a problem with B.O. in the sewers.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 05 September, 2019, 08:59:13 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 102: What’s the big idea, creep? Your players are cheating! Play Robopoly with Robo-Hunter! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/04/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-102-whats-the-big-idea-creep-your-players-are-cheating-play-robopoly-with-robo-hunter/)

Sam Slade has a problem with B.O.!  Fergee is the King of the Big Smelly!  But no stories about sewer droids...

2000AD and Starlord Prog 103: Turn up the heat! The robo knackers yard is— Hell on earth! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/05/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-103-turn-up-the-heat-the-robo-knackers-yard-is-hell-on-earth/)

My favourite Ro-Busters story starts!

: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 07 September, 2019, 07:01:48 PM
Love the Mass Effect/Dragon Age reference with Kidd (Kidd will remember this). You're entering a section of Dan Dare that always felt very video-gamey to me. Like Dan starts picking up new party members with specific special abilities, then gets an upgradeable super weapon of his own, then gets kicked out of the organization where he had a lot of power so he has to start a new one. It's basically Dragon Age: Inquisitor with ray guns :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 08 September, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
I've had no clicks so far today!  Must be a post-Day of Dredd comedown.  Also I haven't posted on this thread for three days which obviously affects how many people read the posts!

Day 1: 2000AD and Starlord Prog 104: Death on the Mutant Express! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/06/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-104-death-on-the-mutant-express/)
Ron Smith's debut!  Also other things, but surely Smith's first work for 2000AD overshadows all?

Day 2: 2000AD and Starlord Prog 105: Judge Dredd is a Wotten Cweep Twue by Judge Walter Dredd Betrayed! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/07/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-105-judge-dredd-is-a-wotten-cweep-twue-by-judge-walter-dredd-betrayed/)
Slocum gets pickled!  Miss Marilyn's last appearance, timeline-wise (she'll be back in stories in the annuals which take place before this story).

Day 3: Tornado No 1: Free Turbo-Flyer! Plus The U.K.’s First Real Live Super Hero! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/08/tornado-no-1-free-turbo-flyer-plus-the-u-k-s-first-real-live-super-hero/)
Starlord launched with a bang, with the 22 issues bringing us Strontium Dog and Ro-busters: memorable characters who are with us to this day - or at least to this decade - it's still unclear what exactly will happen with Strontium Dog after Carlos :-(
Anyway, dwelling on the present ruins the joke - for this is the first issue of Tornado, whose 22 issues won't have quite the same impact on the history of British comics as Starlord did...
Also - this is the first comic I've read since starting the prog slog blog that isn't a re-read - I bought the weekly run of Tornado for the blog and have held off reading them until now (I already had the special and annuals).

Love the Mass Effect/Dragon Age reference with Kidd (Kidd will remember this). You're entering a section of Dan Dare that always felt very video-gamey to me. Like Dan starts picking up new party members with specific special abilities, then gets an upgradeable super weapon of his own, then gets kicked out of the organization where he had a lot of power so he has to start a new one. It's basically Dragon Age: Inquisitor with ray guns :D

I don't have such the background of video games, though have played a few with a narrative where you end up with a companion but they don't stay around for long.  If anything more advanced than Pong and Space Invaders had been around, the late Dare would have been a prime candidate for ripping off (or even licensing, if IPC got it together enough).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 08 September, 2019, 09:24:15 PM
I don't have such the background of video games, though have played a few with a narrative where you end up with a companion but they don't stay around for long.  If anything more advanced than Pong and Space Invaders had been around, the late Dare would have been a prime candidate for ripping off (or even licensing, if IPC got it together enough).

Oh sorry, I made an assumption (of course Kidd will remember these lights in future progs). In a lot of those games you get computer controlled party members, and they often have a "relationship" statistic, like what they think of your character. Sometimes in the game you'll choose a dialog option that either pleases or pisses of the party member and a message appears on the screen like "XXX approves" or "XXX will remember you said that" things of that nature.

I'm trying to click through, but am reading a lot of the posts on my RSS reader, so I'm not sure how that effects metrics. Very interested to hear about Tornado!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 08 September, 2019, 11:42:13 PM
I don't have such the background of video games, though have played a few with a narrative where you end up with a companion but they don't stay around for long.  If anything more advanced than Pong and Space Invaders had been around, the late Dare would have been a prime candidate for ripping off (or even licensing, if IPC got it together enough).

Oh sorry, I made an assumption (of course Kidd will remember these lights in future progs). In a lot of those games you get computer controlled party members, and they often have a "relationship" statistic, like what they think of your character. Sometimes in the game you'll choose a dialog option that either pleases or pisses of the party member and a message appears on the screen like "XXX approves" or "XXX will remember you said that" things of that nature.

I'm trying to click through, but am reading a lot of the posts on my RSS reader, so I'm not sure how that effects metrics. Very interested to hear about Tornado!

No worries - I've played a few of those types of games, just not that many (I'm definitely looking on later episodes of the last Dare story differently now though!)

As for Tornado - it's telling that the stories contained within didn't have as long a life as those from Starlord.  I'm a great fan of 2000AD Blackhawk, but that's because of Belardinelli.  Tornado Blackhawk is entirely different, and shares about half a panel worth in common with the merged version (just before he gets teleported from Rome).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 09 September, 2019, 11:10:25 PM
Onward ever onward!  I'm three visitors off of this being the most popular year for the prog slog blog (not views but visitors).

2000AD and Starlord Prog 106: Blow Their Circuits Out, Kidd! What do you Think this is – a Baby’s Rattle? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-106-blow-their-circuits-out-kidd-what-do-you-think-this-is-a-babys-rattle/).

For the second time, Cal sentences MC1 to death.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 10 September, 2019, 12:42:55 AM
It's still quite hard for me to believe that the remarkably sophisticated and still very readable Fall & Rise... ran alongside the tired drivel of later Dan Dare... they feel at least a decade apart.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 10 September, 2019, 11:24:07 AM
It's still quite hard for me to believe that the remarkably sophisticated and still very readable Fall & Rise... ran alongside the tired drivel of later Dan Dare... they feel at least a decade apart.

The Dave Gibbons artwork is a large part of why it's even readable...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 11 September, 2019, 01:06:01 PM
Tornado No 2: Your Multi-role Maydaypack’s got Codes; Tests; ID pass and all you need to form your own T.T. units! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/10/tornado-no-2-your-multi-role-maydaypacks-got-codes-tests-id-pass-and-all-you-need-to-form-your-own-t-t-units/)
Shadowy hands kill all they can... ;)  Not one but two Superman rip-offs!

2000AD and Starlord Prog 107: Johnny Alpha Enters The City of Lost Souls (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/11/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-107-johnny-alpha-enters-the-city-of-lost-souls/)
Judge Fargo, 2001 - 2051.  Sam Slade gets knocked unconscious and wakes up a while later, with no memory of what happened while he was unconscious (we'll find out in about four and a half years time).  The Genesis of the Robots!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2019, 12:57:29 PM
Tornado No 3: Who is Storm? Where is he from? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/tornado-no-3-who-is-storm-where-is-he-from/)

New thrill (can we call them thrills when they're in non-2000AD?) starts, Benkei ends, everything else continues.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 12 September, 2019, 02:00:32 PM
Tornado No 3: Who is Storm? Where is he from? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/tornado-no-3-who-is-storm-where-is-he-from/)

Should the Tornado entries not have a Tornado logo rather than a 2K one...?
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 12 September, 2019, 02:28:16 PM
Tornado No 3: Who is Storm? Where is he from? (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/tornado-no-3-who-is-storm-where-is-he-from/)

Should the Tornado entries not have a Tornado logo rather than a 2K one...?

That's 2K and SL :-)  Have removed the stray logo - though, as with Starlord, I've found it difficult to get a decent quality logo to use...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 12 September, 2019, 03:24:04 PM
Should the Tornado entries not have a Tornado logo rather than a 2K one...?

That's 2K and SL :-)  Have removed the stray logo - though, as with Starlord, I've found it difficult to get a decent quality logo to use...

I can sort this - PM me your email address!  ;)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dark Jimbo 13 September, 2019, 11:00:07 AM
Ah, that looks better! Glad I could help!  :thumbsup:
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2019, 02:23:33 PM
Ah, that looks better! Glad I could help!  :thumbsup:

I'm glad you could help too :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 13 September, 2019, 02:27:45 PM
While I'm here...

2000AD and Starlord Prog 108: The doctor will examine you now… Say ah… Aaaaah! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/13/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-108-the-doctor-will-examine-you-now-say-ah-aaaaah/)

Deaths of loads of characters in Dredd and a new Chief Judge (so that tells you who one of the deaths is going to be).  The aftermath of the death of a main character in Robo-Hunter (albeit one who didn't say too much, but they've been in the majority of episodes).  More death in Strontium Dog, though the victim gets better!  Brian Bolland is back - but for an advert for Palitoy Star Wars figures!  And a dramatic death in Ro-busters...  I just realised I missed off the ? from X27?'s name - better add those when i get home
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 September, 2019, 02:21:56 PM
Tornado No 4: Loathed by his Men! Feared by his Masters! Blackhawk is the Savage Centurion! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/14/tornado-no-4-loathed-by-his-men-feared-by-his-masters-blackhawk-is-the-savage-centurion/)

Title says it all really!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 14 September, 2019, 07:20:00 PM
That reveal in prog 107 that the robots have both killed all the humans AND ARE NOW MADE OF SOLID GOLD is one of my favorite moments in all of 2000AD. My god what a twist! April was my top month of '79, there's so much great stuff going on that even Servant of Evil can't bring it down :D
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 14 September, 2019, 10:46:54 PM
That reveal in prog 107 that the robots have both killed all the humans AND ARE NOW MADE OF SOLID GOLD is one of my favorite moments in all of 2000AD. My god what a twist! April was my top month of '79, there's so much great stuff going on that even Servant of Evil can't bring it down :D

Following Pat Mills' revisiting of earlier stories in recent (well a few years back now) ABC Warriors stories, I'm still holding out for a Freedome story.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2019, 12:00:49 AM
With cover dates of the 21st of April, 1979:

2000AD and Starlord Prog 109: Flames of Hell! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/15/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-109-flames-of-hell/)
Probably should have gone into a little more detail on the Future-Shock, though the title does give away the ending, so would there be any point?

Tornado No 5: Panic on the Pan-Martian Highway! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/16/tornado-no-5-panic-on-the-pan-martian-highway/)
The fight on Mars hots up, and Storm gets captured.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 17 September, 2019, 09:28:45 PM
28th of April, 1979, Part One - 2000AD (and Starlord)
2000AD and Starlord Prog 110: It’s the Rebel Leaders! Guards – Kill Them! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-110-its-the-rebel-leaders-guards-kill-them/#more-1749)
Sam Slade, genocidal murderer!  Strontium Dog meets a space trucker (not that one).
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Dandontdare 17 September, 2019, 10:11:16 PM
I don't think Dredd is using water torture on Gestapo Bob Harris - I've just had another look and I think that's just sweat and tears - admittedly a lot!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Frank 17 September, 2019, 10:26:59 PM

Fish slime. You can see an eye and a tail, here:


(https://i.imgur.com/mnQqHdG.png?2)


: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 18 September, 2019, 12:44:15 PM
Never noticed that fish before!

Tornado No 6: “The boy’s a wild animal! Hunt him down like a mad dog!” (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/18/tornado-no-6-the-boys-a-wild-animal-hunt-him-down-like-a-mad-dog/)


: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 19 September, 2019, 05:43:54 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 111: No gun, no chance, Dredd – the wrecking ball is gonna crush your skull! Assault at Hell’s Junction! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/19/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-111-no-gun-no-chance-dredd-the-wrecking-ball-is-gonna-crush-your-skull-assault-at-hells-junction/)

Ron Smith's first cover, Sam leaves Verdus, the Gronk is clearly afraid, Eternicus, Greasy Gracie's, Charlie gets the freedom of the city!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 20 September, 2019, 02:13:23 PM
Tornado No 7: I’m going to stamp you out, Drago – once and for all! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/20/tornado-no-7-im-going-to-stamp-you-out-drago-once-and-for-all/)

Last episode of the first Victor Drago, and a tease for a change in format for next week - I make a prediction on what that means...

Wagner gets killed in an explosion (yeah, right - who's going to believe that?)

I hope you like cliffhangers which feature somebody about to get killed in a 'jungle' because we're going to get some for the next few weeks!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 21 September, 2019, 08:07:30 PM
28th of April, 1979, Part One - 2000AD (and Starlord)
2000AD and Starlord Prog 110: It’s the Rebel Leaders! Guards – Kill Them! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-110-its-the-rebel-leaders-guards-kill-them/#more-1749)
Sam Slade, genocidal murderer!  Strontium Dog meets a space trucker (not that one).

I'll mention that as well as killing all the sentient robots on Verdus Sam also killed all the remaining human colonists, held in bondage by the robots!

Heroes killing terrifying amounts of people is a defining element of early 2000AD!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Leigh S 21 September, 2019, 08:22:35 PM
I reckon Johnny Alpha holds the record when he destroys the Wolrog War World, manned by millions of slaves
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 21 September, 2019, 10:27:29 PM
I reckon Johnny Alpha holds the record when he destroys the Wolrog War World, manned by millions of slaves

I've not seen anybody else mention that Rog shares more than a few similarities with the Death Star...  Artificial planet - check.  Bristling with weapons - check.  Designed to dominate the galaxy - check.  Surrounded by huge ships - check.  Destroyed by small bomb being dropped into maintenance shaft - check.  So-called hero ends up killing many thousands of civilian workers and prisoners - check.


2000AD and Starlord Prog 112: We’ve Hit the Shark Car – Now it’s Next Stop Saturn Six! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/21/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-112-weve-hit-the-shark-car-now-its-next-stop-saturn-six/)

Have I ever mentioned how much I love Nemesis the Warlock? Hint (https://megacitybookclub.blogspot.com/2019/05/94-nemesis-warlock.html): I guested (https://luminarypodcasts.com/listen/eamonn-clarke/mega-city-book-club/94-nemesis-the-warlock/2b508098-15fc-4c4c-adde-0b851201322b) on Eamonn's (https://player.fm/series/mega-city-book-club/ep-94-nemesis-the-warlock) Mega-City Book Club podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/94-nemesis-the-warlock/id1116473423?i=1000439346972).  The story that inspired Nemesis!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 23 September, 2019, 11:34:50 AM
Poor Tornado - everything went a bit pear-shaped before it even started publishing, and no one involved seems to have any sort of enthusiasm for it whatsoever (apart from whoever's playing the part of Billy Preston, but it's possible that he's just a bit manic looking anyway!)

I wonder if it would be remembered at all today if it hadn't merged with 2000 AD.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: Lobo Baggins 23 September, 2019, 12:02:09 PM
I've not seen anybody else mention that Rog shares more than a few similarities with the Death Star...  Artificial planet - check.  Bristling with weapons - check.  Designed to dominate the galaxy - check.  Surrounded by huge ships - check.  Destroyed by small bomb being dropped into maintenance shaft - check.  So-called hero ends up killing many thousands of civilian workers and prisoners - check.

Of course,the Mekon had a Death Star (and Dan Dare was blowing it up with space torpedoes) back in 1958, which is way before it was cool...

(https://i.imgur.com/XXB624w.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4iC90f.jpg)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 September, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
I've not seen anybody else mention that Rog shares more than a few similarities with the Death Star...  Artificial planet - check.  Bristling with weapons - check.  Designed to dominate the galaxy - check.  Surrounded by huge ships - check.  Destroyed by small bomb being dropped into maintenance shaft - check.  So-called hero ends up killing many thousands of civilian workers and prisoners - check.

Of course,the Mekon had a Death Star (and Dan Dare was blowing it up with space torpedoes) back in 1958, which is way before it was cool...

(https://i.imgur.com/XXB624w.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4iC90f.jpg)


Nice find - and the order to the robots looks like it's written in pseudo-code!

select (robots) destroy (all things living on Earth)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 23 September, 2019, 01:51:47 PM
To mix up the week's a little (in other words, I shoulda posted this yesterday):

Tornado No 8: The Comic with the Super-Powered Editor! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/22/tornado-no-8-the-comic-with-the-super-powered-editor/)
Black Hawk versus the Germans.
Cam Kennedy on Storm (though called S. Kennedy - did a little research and I still can't find out why).
My prediction about Drago is correct, unfortunately.

2000AD and Starlord Prog 113: I am the Law! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/23/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-113-i-am-the-law/)
That phrase might catch on...
Clones and nudity.
Rick Random.
The Heroes Dozen.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 24 September, 2019, 01:03:26 PM
Tornado No 9: He fought a lonely war with the white invaders who had plundered his people’s homeland… Warrior (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/24/tornado-no-9-he-fought-a-lonely-war-with-the-white-invaders-who-had-plundered-his-peoples-homeland-warrior/)

I may or may not be getting my years mixed up in Black Hawk (at least one of the events alluded to in Black Hawk took place the century after this one is set).
Earthies don't count on Mars gravity (again).
My guesses for the last two entries in the Gallery of Heroes are completely out.
Wolfie Smith versus Villainous Hands™
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 25 September, 2019, 07:30:56 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 114: We Don’t Stand a Chance! We’re Surrounded! But we’ll go down Fighting for Robot Freedom! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/25/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-114-we-dont-stand-a-chance-were-surrounded-but-well-go-down-fighting-for-robot-freedom/)

I wouldn't say this prog is a low point, but it seems like a real step back from the progs of a few months earlier.  Thankfully it still has a few high points, easily amongst the best work in the prog to date...
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 September, 2019, 01:06:20 AM
Tornado No 10: In a Siberian Minefield… The Next Step is Death! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/26/tornado-no-10-in-a-siberian-minefield-the-next-step-is-death/)

Wild cats and the United Nations, plus other stuff.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 27 September, 2019, 01:23:00 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 115: Race for the Crystal of Life! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/27/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-115-race-for-the-crystal-of-life/)

Meet the Weerds!   Farewell to Ro-Busters :(
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 28 September, 2019, 03:23:40 PM
Tornado No 11: Meet Johnny Lawless Inside! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/28/tornado-no-11-meet-johnny-lawless-inside/)

Though many people here will have met Johnny Lawless when it was reprinted in a floppy not long ago.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 28 September, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
Never having read Tornado, I'm finding these reviews particularly fascinating. Anyone know if all the Tornado Blackhawk episodes are in the Rebellion collection?  I think I need to read them!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: JOE SOAP 28 September, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
Anyone know if all the Tornado Blackhawk episodes are in the Rebellion collection?  I think I need to read them!

They are and they're great.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: TordelBack 28 September, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
-Adds yet another item to Christmas list-

Cheers, Joe!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 September, 2019, 11:37:10 AM
I'd assumed nothing from Tornado had been reprinted (other than relatively recently in the floppies) - shall have  to add links to the collected edition in future posts.
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 September, 2019, 11:37:38 AM
(so also Cheers, Joe!) :)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 29 September, 2019, 03:15:22 PM
I was about seven days ahead with the scheduled posts, then along came the 2000AD Sci-Fi Special 1979: Mek-Wars Pull-out colour poster that doesn’t pull its punches! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/29/2000ad-sci-fi-special-1979-mek-wars-pull-out-colour-poster-that-doesnt-pull-its-punches/)

From the era of using the regular stories but unleashing completely different creators on them: Alan Grant's first Dredd; Dan Dare (in text story form); Strontium Dog, M.A.C.H.1 and the inevitable reprints from 1950s comics.

Best bits - the posters!
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: sheridan 30 September, 2019, 12:57:45 PM
2000AD and Starlord Prog 116: Gotta Slice My Way Free – or be Trapped in Hell for ever! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/30/2000ad-and-starlord-prog-116-gotta-slice-my-way-free-or-be-trapped-in-hell-for-ever/)

Walked in the cold air
Freezing breath on a window pane
Lying and waiting
A man in the dark in a picture frame
So mystic and soulful
A voice reaching out in a piercing cry
It stays with you until
The feeling has gone only you and I
It means nothing to me
This means nothing to me
Oh, Vienna

(Dredd's family expands)
: Re: how to do a prog slog
: SpaceSpinner2000 30 September, 2019, 08:33:49 PM
I was about seven days ahead with the scheduled posts, then along came the 2000AD Sci-Fi Special 1979: Mek-Wars Pull-out colour poster that doesn’t pull its punches! (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2019/09/29/2000ad-sci-fi-special-1979-mek-wars-pull-out-colour-poster-that-doesnt-pull-its-punches/)

From the era of using the regular stories but unleashing completely different creators on them: Alan Grant's first Dredd; Dan Dare (in text story form); Strontium Dog, M.A.C.H.1 and the inevitable reprints from 1950s comics.

Best bits - the posters!

Kids from Kosma is where I learned that Brits called popsicles ice lollys, and I haven't been the same since!