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Spent almost the later part of morning, noon, and earlier part of the afternoon chasing down some cheese-cake type picture (All over the internet!) that I now know was illustrated by Chris Achill'eos.

Firstly, I scanned all my book selves for this book I brought on air-brushed fantasy women and other soft pornographic picture of females in similar way. I'm sure the picture I was looking for is featured in there. It wasn't where I though I left it, so I have another missing book.

I also have the picture on the cover of issue of Heavy metal Magazine (Volume 7, Number 9) and was also sure I had trashed that one ages ago.

So, dis internet search for warrior women in fantasy art and also added that famous horned helm found in the Thames at Waterloo.


Got to continue this post later....work to do now!

I should say I'm obsessed with Christos's spin on this famous warrior women.....


Which do yous like better and why?

Take no notice that the shield was very badly replaced in the first picture. Because I found the original work rare as on the internet and only the second numerous times.

Well, aside from the shield and the blue woading, I still prefer provocative and I un-shamedly under clad original. I think it's okay to use here as well. Since the partial-nudity is implied and covered up by her hand. Unlike a lot of his other work, you might notice uncovered. Yet, there is otherworld mystique to a women who would just walk around like that. with armour covering some her vital while her other unmentionables are left no sheets to the wind.     

I really like and find it dis-appointing that the artist might a have been pressured into dressing her.

yep, I know I sound pervy, and I admit that I am that. But the way this lady was drawn that way, seemed she couldn't care any less and there's half the charm of it.

Maybe they all ran into battle only half clothed and with pants or skirt to only half protect themselves. and half tease the Roman invaders instead of fully Sky-Clad.

Still, it a hard look to pull-off and set a new trend with and especially the men during the colder months.

Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 08 January, 2016, 06:24:16 AM

Still, not a hard look to pull-off to

Ftfy ;)

I prefer the first one as the black brings out the colours better.
Though I like Fabry's Boudicca more than either.

This may be the reason why she got more cover.



Now, that I can see her face in in 3 solid dimesons. I don't like it so much.

Well, anyone work out that pun that came to mind...I sure more than a few of you thought they still.....

ICeni[/b]....when looking at it. Despite her later coverage.

I was allays told to pronounce her name boo-dick-ah.
i have the dubious claim of having and E in A-level Ancient history. I was actually really into it but spend the day before the exams totally failing to get off with a girl and spent the night in sorrow eating cornflakes and watching big break instead of revising.

Quote from: auxlen on 15 January, 2016, 04:33:52 PM
I was allays told to pronounce her name boo-dick-ah.

I think you're right; they used to think there was an 'i' sound after the c but found out that was a mistake.  That's all I know.  I often wonder what Boudicca actually looked like; the Roman leaders have their busts and coins but we'll never, ever know how any of our 'barbarian' ancestors looked.

This is my favourite picture by Chris Achilleos (which I told him, when I bumped into him at a local nightclub):
(http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/03/24/62491/e39ab1b63783a553759441db116de8d4.jpg)

Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 16 January, 2016, 12:21:21 AM
but we'll never, ever know how any of our 'barbarian' ancestors looked.

Come around sometime and I'll introduce you to my year 10 class.

 :D

Quote from: auxlen on 15 January, 2016, 04:33:52 PM
I was allays told to pronounce her name boo-dick-ah.

i have the dubious claim of having and E in A-level Ancient history. I was actually really into it but spend the day before the exams totally failing to get off with a girl and spent the night in sorrow eating cornflakes and watching big break instead of revising.

Correct pronunciation of her name has always been had to settle either you Boo-Dicca or Boad-Dicca and Boad-D-C-R, Boo-De-C-R.

The latter sounds more French while the former sounds more primitive and I'm not pointing the finger in place there, but I think she was just British or Albion as it may have been called back then. Not sure if the island was given that name, if there were places that were already named Lindon Hill and Colchester (Home of that author!)   

Quote from: Jayzus B. ChristI think you're right; they used to think there was an 'i' sound after the c but found out that was a mistake. That's all I know.  I often wonder what Boudicca actually looked like; the Roman leaders have their busts and coins but we'll never, ever know how any of our 'barbarian' ancestors looked.

Who's knows, except I always wondered how far back that Roman statue of a dying Gaul back was that sculpted. It say in that link that the statue is really replica of one that was sculpted by the Greeks at around about 3rd century BC. According to that article. Please let me know if this is wrong of course.


If they were making statues that far back, I really think that would fair idea of how they looked.

Isn't there one of Boudicca in Britain somewhere. Quite possibly more modern, but it's her riding her chariot


Wasn't her corpse excavated from under a subway station. I know that long shot or maybe just another lie.

Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 16 January, 2016, 02:46:57 PM
Isn't there one of Boudicca in Britain somewhere. Quite possibly more modern, but it's her riding her  chariot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boadicea_and_Her_Daughters)

There's one on the Embankment, facing the Palace of Westminster (Houses of Parliament).  I go past it every few days, depending on what route home I take from work.

I could be wrong about that statue of the dying Gaul. I doubt that sculpture were that good before the birth of Christ.

Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 17 January, 2016, 08:50:08 AM
I could be wrong about that statue of the dying Gaul. I doubt that sculpture were that good before the birth of Christ.

No, you were absolutely correct the first time. I've seen the marble 'original', and it's fantastic, but like most great Roman sculpture it's most likely a copy of a lost Hellenic (post-Classical Greek) bronze of the 3rd C BC - some time after the breakup of Alexander the Great's Empire. But the Greeks were making great naturalistic human sculpture centuries before that, like this  mid-5th C one (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Dionysos_pediment_Parthenon_BM.jpg/1432px-Dionysos_pediment_Parthenon_BM.jpg) in the British Museum's looted Parthenon room. Even the Venus de Milo is probably 2nd C BC.

Quote from: sheridan on 16 January, 2016, 10:06:28 PM

Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 16 January, 2016, 02:46:57 PM
Isn't there one of Boudicca in Britain somewhere. Quite possibly more modern, but it's her riding her  chariot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boadicea_and_Her_Daughters)

There's one on the Embankment, facing the Palace of Westminster (Houses of Parliament).  I go past it every few days, depending on what route home I take from work.

Hard to get a decent shot of it due to a stall selling tourist tat directly below it, but with a bit of cropping, this one of mine turned out OK-ish...

(http://i.imgur.com/MTYKsEW.jpg)

That's a nice angle, Spikes, fair play.

Here's a kind of pervy statue in Dublin of Queen Maeve (that's Medb to us who were raised on the prog).  Not quite sure why her legs are so long (but I still would).  Actually she looks a bit more like Fabry's Niamh there now I look at it again.

(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/136659/irish_queen.jpg)

Definitely a lot sexier than she used to look on the pound note; though I do miss the intricate Celtic designs of the old notes.  God almighty, I'm getting old.  Also just realised on rereading this post that seem to be turning into you, Thryllseekyr ;)

(http://a1.amlimg.com/ODdiNWFkZDI2NWU2ODZmN2YzOWQ5NDBkNTBlMDQ2ZTcCe3fYwkcy1M3xrYQ3S8OuaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vMGQ4ZTQxMWJkZGE2OGQzZmUwMTEzMzBjZWNlM2ViY2M4ZDNlYTI3YTZjMzhjNDNhZjA1ZjcyODkzY2MwMDgwMS5qcGd8fHx8fHwzOTZ4MjI1fGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg)

Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 17 January, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
That's a nice angle, Spikes, fair play.

Here's a kind of pervy statue in Dublin of Queen Maeve (that's Medb to us who were raised on the prog).  Not quite sure why her legs are so long (but I still would).

She'd crush you like a blueberry, boy.  I love Patrick O'Reilly's work, especially his determined seaside teddy bear in Greystones - exaggerated (or minimised) limbs is definitely his thing:

(http://www.patrickoreilly.ie/images/uploads/collections/friary-horse.jpg)

(http://www.vanderkrogt.net/statues/Foto/ie/ie067.jpg)

Dublin has become a great town for street sculpture.  Rowan Gillespie's pieces alone must rank as some of the greatest in the world - not just the Famine memorial, but his mesmerising Blackrock dolmen too:
(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/136659/blackrock_dolmen.jpg)

Incidentally TS, your idea about Boudicca being dug up under a subway station probably comes from the (likely quite late, and totally unsubstantiated) story of her being buried under King's Cross station - specifically somewhere around platforms 9 and 10. It's been suggested that this is why J K Rowling confused her memories of Euston Station (her actual visual reference for Platform 9 3/4) with King's Cross, with its existing mythical associations. Alan Moore plays on this connection rather brilliantly in LoEG: Century.

Wow; never knew the bronze teddy bears (which I've always loved) and nudey Maeve were the same guy.  Yeah, Dublin isn't too shabby at all, sculpturewise.  Me, I used to work in a bronze sculpture foundry, but the weekly injuries, the lax health and safety rules (asbestos gloves a-plenty and a permanent, audible wheeze when I breathed) and the crap pay for skilled and difficult work put me off bronze sculpture for a few years - also it was a bit soul-destroying working for artists without actually doing any art yourself.  These days, though, I appreciate sculpture much more, being able to see it from a detached viewpoint.

Here's a couple we cast and assembled that you might recognise. The first is a tribute to Dermot Morgan and is in Merrion Square, and the second is a big hand by Linda Brunker (no idea what it's about but I always thought it looked cool and used to enjoy climbing on it and sitting in it).  We also did a bit of work for Ray Harryhausen, no less, though I personally didn't have much of a hand in that.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3399/4568640281_d8779e11ae_b.jpg)

(http://grannymar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Hand_3.jpg)

Some great public art on display there lads, still up here we have two geodesic spheres at the bottom of the Falls road. The balls on the Falls as they are fondly known. Very attractive to boot. Z

You did some nice work there JBC - I spent a spell working on Marlborough Street last year, and on nice days ate my lunch on a bench right opposite The Hand.  Kids absolute adore it, they just can't pass it without climbing on it, which is brilliant.

Dermot Morgan's chair is unquestionably one of my favourite sculptures of all - I've sat in it in some very dark moments in my life and taken comfort from it; much as I've sat beside Patrick Kavanagh up on the canal.  There's something about a functional memorial to someone whose work you love that really does something.

Interesting sculptures! I particularly like the hand!

And I confess the nudey Maeve...  :-[

Quote...lax health and safety rules (asbestos gloves a-plenty and a permanent, audible wheeze when I breathed)   

I hope that company found an alternative to those asbestos gloves! I'm not sure how harmful they are compared to the stuff that used to be used in roofing etc, but they're still considered essentially hazardous materials. According to this
link (http://www.hsimagazine.com/article.php?article_id=966) anway.

Disney missed a trick not putting Anakin/Luke's Lightsaber into that hand when they invaded Dublin.

Went past the Thames Embankment version of Boudicca.  Would have taken a picture but:

   
• It was too dark for my camera
• There were loads of tourists around, jostling, getting in the way
• That ugly tourist tat stall is still there (I wonder what time in the morning it sets up?)
• The temperature is heading towards, and possibly past, freezing, so I didn't want to take my gloves off
• I don't have any image hosting space which I could hotlink to

Maybe another time.

Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 17 January, 2016, 12:49:47 PM
That's a nice angle, Spikes, fair play.

Here's a kind of pervy statue in Dublin of Queen Maeve (that's Medb to us who were raised on the prog).  Not quite sure why her legs are so long (but I still would).  Actually she looks a bit more like Fabry's Niamh there now I look at it again.

(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/136659/irish_queen.jpg)

Definitely a lot sexier than she used to look on the pound note; though I do miss the intricate Celtic designs of the old notes.  God almighty, I'm getting old.  Also just realised on rereading this post that seem to be turning into you, Thryllseekyr ;)

(http://a1.amlimg.com/ODdiNWFkZDI2NWU2ODZmN2YzOWQ5NDBkNTBlMDQ2ZTcCe3fYwkcy1M3xrYQ3S8OuaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vMGQ4ZTQxMWJkZGE2OGQzZmUwMTEzMzBjZWNlM2ViY2M4ZDNlYTI3YTZjMzhjNDNhZjA1ZjcyODkzY2MwMDgwMS5qcGd8fHx8fHwzOTZ4MjI1fGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg)

Never knew about that statue or her face on the money. There is something certainly other worldly about having that woman glaring down at you while completely starkers.

I've never actually seen that statue in the, er, flesh; despite constantly running and cycling round Dublin as part of my job.  That pound note design was a lonnng time ago now; I can't even remember when they switched to pound coins (and updated the remaining notes with far shitter designs), but it was well before the Euro came in.

TB - really glad you've got comfort from that Dermot Morgan chair; that's exactly the kind of use I was hoping it would get.  I like to think even homeless and destitute people can feel like the king / queen of all they survey for a few minutes.  (I sit on it whenever I see it too.)

Mardroid - you're absolutely right; asbestos is banned and the company had no right to subject us to it - though it was a drop in the ocean of dangerous lapses of health and safety rules there.  Among my many  afflictions there were:  1.  The aforementioned wheezy breath; 2.  A permanent change in nose-shape due to flames entering a hole in my visor ; 3.  A massive hole burned in my wrist after touching red hot metal (actually not sore at all due to the nerves being burnt out, and now amazingly well-healed - it just turns red in the shower); 4.  A lungful of sulphuric acid fumes; 5.  A speck of hot metal in the eye on and almost weekly basis; and 6.  A bad back (which was the reason I left).

My boss, due mainly to not giving a fuck about protective measures, died of cancer in his early 40s; it was then bought by a few of my co-workers who systematically made the place a far safer place to work.

In Colchester we were originally brought up to pronounce her Bow-da-see-a then in the mid 80's she became Boo-de-ka
& we have a statue with a slightly different image of her



http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Mb105f0dd2ee69d466b5a77b4d8863d81o0&w=300&h=225&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

Quote from: rogue69 on 20 January, 2016, 12:42:22 AM
In Colchester we were originally brought up to pronounce her Bow-da-see-a then in the mid 80's she became Boo-de-ka
& we have a statue with a slightly different image of her
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Mb105f0dd2ee69d466b5a77b4d8863d81o0&w=300&h=225&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0 (http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Mb105f0dd2ee69d466b5a77b4d8863d81o0&w=300&h=225&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)

I don't recall seeing that before - is it in Castle Park?  And recent-ish (within the last ten years)?

It is situated on the roundabout between the North Station train station & ASDA. It has been there since early 2000, but was removed for a while when they  revamped the roundabout system there.

Quote from: rogue69 on 21 January, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
It is situated on the roundabout between the North Station train station & ASDA. It has been there since early 2000, but was removed for a while when they  revamped the roundabout system there.

I know someone who used to live just off of that roundabout.  I expect you can just about see it from the train, if you're paying attention (and not looking south, towards the town centre).

Quote from: rogue69 on 20 January, 2016, 12:42:22 AM
In Colchester we were originally brought up to pronounce her Bow-da-see-a then in the mid 80's she became Boo-de-ka
& we have a statue with a slightly different image of her



http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Mb105f0dd2ee69d466b5a77b4d8863d81o0&w=300&h=225&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

I like it. Reminds me a bit of Morrigan from the ABC Warriors.