http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hellboy-reboot-works-stranger-things-star-david-harbour-1001462 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/hellboy-reboot-works-stranger-things-star-david-harbour-1001462)
Not sure what the point of a reboot is, might as well just continue the continuity and tell more stories. Even if recasting. This casting seems like a good choice though, I could see that guy pulling off the Hellboy sardonic humor.
Neil Marshall is a solid choice for director too.
It's so they don't have to rely on a new audience seeing the other films and since Mignola is a Producer on this he probably wants it to be less del Toro this time. It's also a different studio so by rebooting they don't need to buy the rights to continue the previous interpretation.
Neil Marshall has the right sensibility for this. This could be very good.
Quote from: PsychoGoatee on 09 May, 2017, 07:33:47 AM
Not sure what the point of a reboot is, might as well just continue the continuity and tell more stories. Even if recasting. This casting seems like a good choice though, I could see that guy pulling off the Hellboy sardonic humor.
Neil Marshall is a solid choice for director too.
Figures collected from Wikipedia
Hellboy
$66m budget returning $99.3m profit
Hellboy II
$85m budget on $160m gross profit.
Del Toro's last film - Crimson Peak
$55m budget returning $74m gross
I suspect this might answer the question of Why they're not just doing a sequel...
-pj
"Marshall is now developing a new script with Aron Coleite, who worked on NBC's Heroes and is also working on the new Star Trek: Discovery series. He will also act as a producer with his partner Marc Helwig."
Hmm. So Mignola/Golden/Cosby script goes bye bye? They need Mignola to do this properly.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 09 May, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
Hmm. So Mignola/Golden/Cosby script goes bye bye? They need Mignola to do this properly.
When del Toro tweeted about his Hellboy 3 meeting a few months ago and pronounced the project officially dead, he gave the very clear impression that Mignola was the one who wasn't keen to proceed, so I would assume that this, at the very least, has his full blessing.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 09 May, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
Hmm. So Mignola/Golden/Cosby script goes bye bye? They need Mignola to do this properly.
In somewhat contradictory fashion, this article (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3436215/new-hellboy-details-reveal-films-title-writer-distributor/) suggests that
is the script they're using...
Much as I love the Hellboy Films they didn't do that well. I thought Heroes was terrible, I'm not that keen on Neil Marshall and I don't really see why Hellboy needs an R rating*. I suspect I'm not the audience this film is after. never the less it will be interesting to see what the new team do with it.
*although after the success of Deadpool and Logan I'm not surprised.
I guess I don't mind as long as it's a self contained story that doesn't refer to main things in continuity of the other films. That way it can be a continuation in your mind if you want it to, but kinda fits the reboot remit. (I.e. reboot needn't mean a whole new universe.)
BTW Greg Staples is working on it at the moment.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 09 May, 2017, 03:50:37 PMIn somewhat contradictory fashion, this article (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3436215/new-hellboy-details-reveal-films-title-writer-distributor/) suggests that is the script they're using...
Well, that's what the initial news report said. The 'new' script was a subsequent update.
Frankly, they need to make Hellboy weird. The second Del Toro one was about right on that score, for the most part.
del Toro was expecting to get somewhere in the region of $150 million to make his concluding film. The previous films didn't justify that expectation.
I thought both films were superb, great cast, very self contained and rewatchable, and it's a shame the financial success isn't there to support a third from the same team. It probably makes me a heretic, but I preferred them to the comic by quite a margin, a feeling only heightened by recent attempts to get up to date.
I was looking forward to del Toro's Hobbit too!
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 08:13:51 PM
I thought both films were superb, great cast, very self contained and rewatchable, and it's a shame the financial success isn't there to support a third from the same team....I was looking forward to del Toro's Hobbit too!
Likewise
Meh
Quote from: TordelBack on 09 May, 2017, 08:13:51 PM
I was looking forward to del Toro's Hobbit too!
*coughcoughAtTheMountainsofMadnesscough*In a parallel universe, the list of films Bizarro del Toro
did make is pretty awesome.
I really don't like Del Toro and I'm indifferent to Hellboy. Some of the comics are quite good but I didn't enjoy the films.
I do like Neil Marshall though - The Descent and Dog Soldiers are two favourites of mine. Doomsday is a fun b-movie style adventure (but his weakest film) and Centurion was a cool historical action film.
I'm excited to see Neil Marshall return to feature films after a few years doing TV.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BT4V4pqg1Ih/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BT4V4pqg1Ih/)
I loved the two Del Toro Hellboy films, and consider those to be among the best of all films based on comic books, certainly by far better than most of the films based on Marvel or DC properties, if you exclude stuff like Watchmen and V for Vendetta.
What you probably have to ask is if the Del Toro films didn't make a lot of money, is that Del Toro's fault, or simply the fact that Hellboy isn't as well-known as the Marvel and DC character films that can become blockbusters, and generally have heavy money put into advertising, promotion and tie-ins to Burger King or McDonald's or Coke or Pepsi.
I would agree that big Guillermo directed one of the very best comicbook adaptations. It was called Blade 2.
David Harbour as Hellboy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJoToM3VoAAqLS1.jpg:large)
That does look fantastic. I'm still a bit grumbly that it's not a third Del Toro film, and it's odd that if they didn't want to continue that take on it they've opted to ape the look of the Del Toro HB so much (the one person I showed the picture to didn't believe me it was from the new production and thought it was a publicity shot from one of the Perlman films).
Just bitter, I want the end of that trilogy damn it, and this whole endeavour confuses me a bit. I'll still be first in line to watch it though.
I'm not sure what else they could have done in terms of design. Both are faithful to the source material, hence them being similar.
Looks great. Hellboy worked for me as I felt they stuck fairly close to the original material and inspiration.
And look.
lookin' forward to more on this.
Mmm did they used the makeup from previous Hellboy? Sadly they don't do third film.
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 14 September, 2017, 09:52:07 AMLooks great. Hellboy worked for me as I felt they stuck fairly close to the original material and inspiration.
The first film was a bit Elseworlds for me (Hellboy being much more immature than in the books, and Kroenen being an entirely different – but badass – character), but it still felt respectful to the source. To my mind, the second film was much more 'Hellboy', with its plentiful nods to weirdness, fairy tale logic, and strange beings littered about the place. It's a pity they didn't finish the run, but there you go.
The animations they did at the time aren't bad either.
That really does look marvelous, although I have mixed feelings about a reboot, due to the others being so good. It would be nice if it were set in the same universe, or could be, i.e. don't include anything that contradicts the previous films. [spoiler]Of course, the fact he had a kid in the last film, might make this problematic, but this could be set earlier than the other films. Not a true prequel, though if it is a stand-alone self-contained movie.[/spoiler]