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Title: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 August, 2017, 11:29:56 PM
Both Hollywood Reporter and Variety are reporting that an Obi Wan Kenobi standalone movie is indeed being worked on, with Billy Elliot, The Hours and The Reader director Stephen Daldry at the helm.

No script or cast yet (or indeed official announcement) but this is good news to me!
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2017, 12:36:32 AM

KENOBI: The Blue Milk Years

Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: TordelBack on 18 August, 2017, 04:31:18 AM
Much as I like Obi-Wan, you have to wonder, though. The three 'anthology' films so far are Death Star Again, Han Solo and Obi-Wan. I'm not seeing a lot of envelope pushing.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2017, 04:52:49 AM

A notion I previously raised that Disney were just going to covertly re-do the Prequels seems more and more relevant.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: I, Cosh on 18 August, 2017, 06:46:42 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 18 August, 2017, 04:31:18 AM
Much as I like Obi-Wan, you have to wonder, though. The three 'anthology' films so far are Death Star Again, Han Solo and Obi-Wan. I'm not seeing a lot of envelope pushing.
Hang on. It could be set on Tattooine, directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky and fit in chronologically between El Topo and The Holy Mountain.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Frank on 18 August, 2017, 07:12:57 AM
Quote from: Pete Wells on 17 August, 2017, 11:29:56 PM
Billy Elliot, The Hours and The Reader director Stephen Daldry

Some make their Wallace Beery wrestling movie at the start of their career, some at its end:

https://youtu.be/-55OifQFlFI


Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: sheridan on 18 August, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
I can see how they could do a Yoda or Han Solo film, as all we've seen is parts of their later life, but we've already seen Obi Wan from Padawan to force ghost...
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: I, Cosh on 18 August, 2017, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: sheridan on 18 August, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
I can see how they could do a Yoda or Han Solo film, as all we've seen is parts of their later life, but we've already seen Obi Wan from Padawan to force ghost...
Truly, Madly, Jedi!
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: matty_ae on 18 August, 2017, 03:55:29 PM
The Disney cartoon series Rebels had an episode where Darth Maul tracked down Obi Wan for revenge.
He came to Tattoine to hunt for him - so they can't really be telling this story

(from the Producer)
There's so much to discuss here, but let's start with the biggest thing in terms of canon: Obi-Wan Kenobi kills Darth Maul. He's dead. Gone. For good this time.

Since Filoni had decided to bring Darth Maul back in The Clone Wars originally, he felt a responsibility to end the former Sith apprentice's story. So he and the Rebels production team checked with several members of the Lucasfilm Story Group to make sure there weren't any future plans for the character in other Star Wars media. But for Maul, there really couldn't be.

"If there's a character like Maul running around during one of the old films, he's such a big-time player you think there would have been an echo of that somewhere," Filoni said. "So it was just the right time to tell the story and bring that thread to an end."
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2017, 04:39:42 PM

I think it's possibly a Kenobi v Vader film – an early attempt by Kenobi to either assassinate or turn Vader from the Daaaaark Siiide.
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Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
I'm going to keep saying it: Obi-Wan — The Tatooine Years.

A Kurosawa/Leone style western with light sabres...? Who wouldn't want to watch that?!
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Mardroid on 18 August, 2017, 04:58:04 PM
Yes there are three parts of Obi-wan's life unaccounted for. His childhood and padawan years before TPM* and the Tattooine wilderness years, as others have mentioned. Maybe they'll answer why he just adopted a new first name and didn't bother changing the name of Luke at all! 😄 (To be fair, but maybe the Skywalker name is commonplace among the human population of Tattooine.)

Another part that could be covered is his early years as a Jedi Knight while Anakin was a child.

*I'm not sure how cinematic the childhood story would be, as I'm assuming he was taken into the younglings as little more than a baby. If they've got a decent 'early years mission' story with Qui-Gon, that could be very interesting, though. Show the kind of Jedi detective/peacekeeping stuff that went on before the Sith shenanigans and the clone wars.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: JOE SOAP on 18 August, 2017, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
I'm going to keep saying it: Obi-Wan — The Tatooine Years.

A Kurosawa/Leone style western with light sabres...? Who wouldn't want to watch that?!

That idea continues to rear its head in the fan-world but the trend only suggests Disney/Lucasfilm err on the side of reprising the big space spectacle of Star Wars in every film rather than the smaller back to the moisture farm idea of Ewan McGregor defending a wagon train of power converters on their way to Tosche Station. Kenobi's days on Tatooine is more akin to the type of ground they cover in the TV shows.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Colin YNWA on 18 August, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
I'm going to keep saying it: Obi-Wan — The Tatooine Years.

A Kurosawa/Leone style western with light sabres...? Who wouldn't want to watch that?!

This is so something I'd buy into. I mean Star Wars suggests that Ben knows Mos Eisley a better setting for a Western frontier town (well outside an actual Western frontier town) I can't imagine. Well into the idea of Ben walking into Fist Full of Space Credits

Having just read Incident On Mayjer Minor I'm well into the idea of Ben as Shane also.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Frank on 18 August, 2017, 06:49:44 PM

Wracked with guilt over incapacity benefitting his best friend, Kid Kenobi hits the blue milk. He wakes up in Mos Eisley jail and discovers Lando Calrisian has been appointed sheriff:


He rode a blazing bantha

He once drove a flying car

He swore to do battle

With Sand Men near and far



The campfire scene, with a dozen stormtroopers shifting their weight onto one cheek then gassing themselves inside their armour, would be worth the price of admission.


Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: sheridan on 18 August, 2017, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
I'm going to keep saying it: Obi-Wan — The Tatooine Years.

A Kurosawa/Leone style western with light sabres...? Who wouldn't want to watch that?!

There was a pretty good story in one of the FCBD comics along those lines, with Ben keeping an eye on Luke from afar, and making sure that no harm came to him when he wandered off as a kid this one time...
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Pete Wells on 19 August, 2017, 12:40:24 AM
There's a few things I'd like to see here. I love to see more of the Tuskan Raiders (they terrified me as a kid, their guttural language is particularly unsettling.) Obi Wan seemed to have previous with them "Sandpeople scare easily, but will be back, in greater numbers!" I'd like them to quantify that statement!

Owen Lars had a healthy dislike of Ben; it could just be a dislike of all Jedi because of Annakin, or it could be more. Again, going back to the sand people, maybe the trouble Clegg Lars was having with them on the moisture farm escalates over the years (possibly exacerbated by Annakin's rampage,) putting young Luke potentially in danger. It'd be great to see Ben helping from afar, much to the anger of grumpy Uncle Owen.

As others have said, Ben knew his way around Mos Easley cantina, there's plenty of scope for some gritty adventures with some of the colourful denizens from there. If not, like the comic, a run in with some of the Hutt gangsters or their henchmen could be awesome!

Liam Neilson would be a welcome addition too. I really like to see Ben learning to contact Qui-Gon's ghost.

Finally, there's the whole Rey thing. If she is a Kenobi, then somewhere in this Ben would meet her granny in this movie. I like to think of Ben's time on Tatooine as quite monastic, but a momentary lapse with a great new character in the heat of a new adventure would be forgivable.

So, tonnes of scope for good writers to come up with a cool Ben movie. Bring it on, I say!
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 19 August, 2017, 09:14:49 AM
Ben Kenobi should be revealed as a spy for the Empire all along! He didn't tell his Imperial pay Masters about Luke and Leia as he wanted to corrupt them to be his Padawan's and use them to kill the Emperor and Darth Vader. Obi-Wan Kenobi would then declare himself Galactic Emperor with Luke and Leia as his shadowy Enforcers, Hail evil everybody. Sadly, of course, he became weak and succumbed to morality, and hence the rather dull, religious mumbo jumbo man in the desert recovers his soul crap we'll probably get served up.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: Zarjazzer on 19 August, 2017, 09:25:54 AM
Ben-The Wilderness years.

Is this going to feature a big bear?  :-\

Anyway cool if "hello there" McG could be starring.

he could smoke crack in his terrorist hide out.
Title: Re: Obi Wan Kenobi film (kinda) announced.
Post by: JLC on 19 August, 2017, 10:49:46 AM
It should just be a dialogue free drama about Ben living in the wilderness of Tattooine. Trying to fix up his home, build a well, grow crops etc.