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: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 23 January, 2020, 02:10:10 PM
Thought Bubble 2020 (https://www.thoughtbubblefestival.com/)

This year the gig will be 14th & 15th November, and staying in Harrogate!

First wave of guests announced, including Joe Hill.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Colin YNWA 23 January, 2020, 08:10:42 PM
How was the new location last year? I missed going to a con last years and always loved Thought Bubble in Leeds. Trouble in now in a conference centre in Harrogate it just feels like any other event to me? Though those who were there last year may feel otherwise?
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Steve Green 23 January, 2020, 09:48:42 PM
It definitely felt different (unsurprisingly)

As far as I could work out there was just the one entrance/exit (at least that I saw) which made nipping in and out more effort than in Leeds.

Venue itself is of the big sports hall type (or three connected ones for the main con)

I didn't get the chance to go to any panels, so can't comment on those - Harrogate itself was a lot quieter than Leeds.

I still miss the Royal Armouries, but there wasn't the problem with bag checks and big gaps between venues that Leeds City Centre had.

My main complaint was that the PA was pretty hard to hear.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Dandontdare 23 January, 2020, 11:40:38 PM
There was a PA?
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 24 January, 2020, 08:43:03 AM
Yeah, the PA was not brilliant.

I found the new venue ace. We were in the 'middle' hall, so had a colossal throughput of attendees heading to and from places.

Harrogate itself was grand, too.

I've already booked the hotel for the weekend to get a decent price.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: flip-r mk2 24 January, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
I've booked myself into the Old Swan again.

filippo
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: Mike Carroll 24 January, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
I've already booked the hotel for the weekend to get a decent price.

Leonia and I have been debating whether to go this year -- we've never been to Thought Bubble before -- but if you're going to be there, we're definitely going!
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 24 January, 2020, 02:54:25 PM
I found the new venue ace. We were in the 'middle' hall, so had a colossal throughput of attendees heading to and from places.

Harrogate itself was grand, too.

I've been to a couple of the Leeds ones in years gone by and always found it a bit bewildering with stuff spread out all over the place, but Harrogate was engagingly compact with agreeable boozers and restaurants within very short walking distance of the convention and stuffed to the rafters with friendly comics folks.

Pub find of the weekend went to Pete Wells, who managed to find one whose food offering consisted entirely of pies, pasties and sausage rolls — basically a Greggs that served beer. :-)
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 24 January, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
Leonia and I have been debating whether to go this year -- we've never been to Thought Bubble before -- but if you're going to be there, we're definitely going!

I've been telling the organisers to ask you over for the last three years, so this is wonderful news. Myself and Izzy will be there from the Friday to the Sunday.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Tiplodocus 26 January, 2020, 01:05:23 PM
Yeah, I really enjoyed it (my first TB) and plan to be back for more this year. Panels I attended were great fun too.

Train journey from Calhab was a bit of a faff but meant I could also drink in the aforementioned Greggs with Beer.

: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 27 January, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Applications for 2020 are open:

https://www.thoughtbubblefestival.com/exhibit (https://www.thoughtbubblefestival.com/exhibit)
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 28 January, 2020, 10:35:39 AM
I enjoyed the one I attended in Leeds, need to looks at the diary now!
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: Proudhuff 28 January, 2020, 10:53:11 AM
Any hotel recommendations: near by? Cheap? by a Greggs? decent spoon policy in the bar?
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: Bolt-01 28 January, 2020, 11:30:27 AM
I went through booking.com but I think that pretty much anywhere in Harrogate is within walking distance of the gig.

I've booked at the St George, just across the road.
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: Dandontdare 28 January, 2020, 11:55:24 AM
Any hotel recommendations: near by? Cheap? by a Greggs? decent spoon policy in the bar?

DON'T.

TOUCH.

THE.

SPOON!
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 28 January, 2020, 12:05:13 PM
I went through booking.com but I think that pretty much anywhere in Harrogate is within walking distance of the gig.

I've booked at the St George, just across the road.

Cheers Bolt, never been to Harrogate,  but half an hour from York sounds doable.

 I'll take my own spoon  :-X
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 29 January, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
And I'm in!  :D
have booked a hotel and will shortly get my ticket. Will bring a chum, so may not be available for all spoon twisting related activities...
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Large48 09 May, 2020, 04:48:45 PM
Silly question, but does anyone if this is still likely to be on?

Especially considering the Nightingale hospital is in there at the moment....
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: MacabreMagpie 11 May, 2020, 07:47:29 AM
Silly question, but does anyone if this is still likely to be on?

Especially considering the Nightingale hospital is in there at the moment....

They sent an email out to exhibitors a few weeks ago saying the plan is still for it to go ahead but, if not, they have an alternative plan in place that will involve rescheduling.

Personally, I’ll be surprised if it goes ahead. It will probably be able to by then but I’m not sure how many people would be willing to go to an event that size come November.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 11 May, 2020, 09:46:31 AM
Personally, I’ll be surprised if it goes ahead. It will probably be able to by then but I’m not sure how many people would be willing to go to an event that size come November.

I certainly have no intention of going to any event involving a large number of people in a confined space for the rest of the year.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: pauljholden 11 May, 2020, 06:04:20 PM
Aren't they doing something online now? Unbelievably I'm attached to a con that's convinced it'll still be happening in September. I have some very serious doubts. (Even though con looks amazing)
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 12 May, 2020, 05:19:06 PM
Just ask Boris, I'm sure he'll have thought it through....
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: sheridan 12 May, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
Aren't they doing something online now? Unbelievably I'm attached to a con that's convinced it'll still be happening in September. I have some very serious doubts. (Even though con looks amazing)


Are they really convinced it'll be happening, or do they have to say that otherwise they'll lose their insurance cover?  I know in some countries if they cancel it themselves then all liabilities are theirs but if the government causes it to be cancelled then they don't go bankrupt.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Colin YNWA 12 May, 2020, 05:45:19 PM
Just ask Boris, I'm sure he'll have thought it through....

Well look he's sorted out tennis, golf and fishing already for us, we'll just have to wait patiently until 'being a nerd' gets to the top of his to do list. Its a long list and will probably have to take its place below philandering and illegal arms deals to Saudi Arabi...

...
Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work. But I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I'm swamped.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: james newell 18 June, 2020, 10:36:55 PM
apart for Thought Bubble, would the art & pitch comp go ahead???
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 19 June, 2020, 08:21:57 AM
Well miffed this morning here in FQP con-apts. The hotel I'd booked for myself and Nano-bolt has up and cancelled the weekend. Leaving me wondering whether or not to book at another venue.
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: MacabreMagpie 19 June, 2020, 08:33:22 AM
Well miffed this morning here in FQP con-apts. The hotel I'd booked for myself and Nano-bolt has up and cancelled the weekend. Leaving me wondering whether or not to book at another venue.

Im sort of hoping my hotel does the same as its non-refundable if I cancel it... 😂

Yeah, from talking to other creators I’m sure sure how many people will be comfortable attending. I don’t expect I’ll be there, though still have a few months to cancel my table so can wait and see how things go
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Colin YNWA 19 June, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
You'd suspect if it did go ahead it would be a very changed event - though who knows with the government determined to get the economy going?

Heck by November we may even have a contact tracker up and running... maybe...
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 19 June, 2020, 11:02:57 AM
Bloody bloody bloody hell.

https://www.thoughtbubblefestival.com/announcement (https://www.thoughtbubblefestival.com/announcement)

I'm not surprised, but I am genuinely saddened by this - 2020 just got that bit worse.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Colin YNWA 19 June, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
Its not much of a surprise alas. Has this just been annouced as I didn't notice it when I pottered across this morning off the back of your post?
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 19 June, 2020, 11:12:50 AM
Yeah - I've just had the email from them. The team at TB have asked if this could be actively shared.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Dandontdare 19 June, 2020, 06:43:34 PM
I'm not really surprised (in fact, I thought this had already happened) - I can't see myself going to any cons gigs or festivals this year even if the rules allow them.

Shame though - just looking forward to Lawless and TB 2021
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 22 October, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
You'd suspect if it did go ahead it would be a very changed event - though who knows with the government determined to get the economy going?

Heck by November we may even have a contact tracker up and running... maybe...


not looking likely
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Bolt-01 13 November, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
Well, If Covid hadn't happened I'd be on the road now to Thought Bubble 2020.

Nano-Bolt would have been starting her fourth year on team red-shirt and I would have been looking forward to meeting friends, many of whom I only see at this event. Heck, this year we were looking forward to spending quality time with Mr Mike Carroll and his lovely wife.

Here's to Thought Bubble - the finest convention in the country, and here's to next year!
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: low down dirty drokker 16 June, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
Thought about thought bubble, changed my mind,
Then thought some more.
Hard work all this thinking.. Usually find drinking, helps to stop the thinking.
Keep on Drokking..
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Proudhuff 14 July, 2021, 01:08:54 PM
Well, If Covid hadn't happened I'd be on the road now to Thought Bubble 2020.

Nano-Bolt would have been starting her fourth year on team red-shirt and I would have been looking forward to meeting friends, many of whom I only see at this event. Heck, this year we were looking forward to spending quality time with Mr Mike Carroll and his lovely wife.

Here's to Thought Bubble - the finest convention in the country, and here's to next year!

So sad reading that...
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 15 July, 2021, 05:22:33 PM
So sad reading that...

The very last emails I exchanged with Dave ended with us promising to meet up at Thought Bubble if it went ahead this year. Dammit, Dave.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: rogue69 29 July, 2021, 07:50:28 PM
Thought Bubble have now dropped Frank Miller from attending this year after several other guests decided to boycott the event due to his anti-muslim comments
https://www.comicon.com/2021/07/28/frank-miller-cancelled-and-no-longer-coming-to-thought-bubble/
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Link Prime 29 July, 2021, 09:59:43 PM
Arguably the greatest living comic creator...kicked out of a comic convention.

You couldn't make it up.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Colin YNWA 30 July, 2021, 06:51:28 AM
Arguably the greatest living comic creator...kicked out of a comic convention.

You couldn't make it up.

There are many, many different ways of looking at this and this is one of the extremes of that spectrum.

I've not read Holy Terror and have no intention of doing so and therefore need to be a little careful about what I say in direct relation to that. What I state here is therefore a reflection on some of the things I have read rather than person reflection. The other end of the spectrum is.

Once great comic artist / writer who hasn't produced anything good in years has withdrawn (been asked to withdraw?) from comic con on the basis that other folks attending choose not to attend if he was due to vile anti-islamic book he produced, for which he has never properly apologised and which he still allows to be sold.

There will be a LOT of views inbetween.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 30 July, 2021, 07:02:52 AM
Arguably the greatest living comic creator...kicked out of a comic convention.

Some muslim attendees expressed concern about not only Miller's virulently anti-Islamic work, but more importantly, that they were uncomfortable about the kind of crowd he might draw given the nature of that work. One person who expressed this view was then hounded off Twitter by a torrent of racist abuse, which kind of illustrates the point.

It's possible to appreciate the work of The Smiths and still not want to invite Morrisey to your party because he's a racist bellend these days. Same thing.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Link Prime 30 July, 2021, 09:13:12 AM
kind of crowd he might draw

Comics fans? Frank Miller fans? Bizarre viewpoint, I gotta say.

There will be a LOT of views inbetween.

I'd consider myself an even handed individual, so looked into the topic a bit more this morning over a bowl of Cheerios. Quite an unpleasant breakfast.

My concluding and intractable take - it's all a load of utter, utter nonsense.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 30 July, 2021, 10:40:41 AM
Comics fans? Frank Miller fans? Bizarre viewpoint, I gotta say.

No. Obviously. The kind of far right arsehole he courted with his Holy Terror schtick and then subsequent pronouncements on wishy-washy leftists and what he'd like to do to them.

I'm sure you're not worried about what about that kind of person would do to you, but I'm assuming you're in line with this forum's overwhelming demographic: white, midde-aged men. If not, I apologise but if so, just try to imagine what it feels like to be in a minority in the current political climate, and then add in attending a con where the main attraction is a comic creator who's made himself a lightning rod for all kinds of far right whackjobs.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Link Prime 30 July, 2021, 04:28:22 PM
Comics fans? Frank Miller fans? Bizarre viewpoint, I gotta say.

No. Obviously.

What's obvious, to me, would be the assumption that 99.99% of genre fans queuing up for the rare chance to meet Frank Miller in a comic convention would be perfectly well adjusted "normal" people of all backgrounds, only interested in meeting a literal icon of the medium.
The 0.01% chance of some bellend being a bellend would likely have the same prospect of occurring in your local Tesco.

I'm talking about the real world here, where decorum and law are generally respected publicly, not referring to the kind of cowardly guff that's spouted online.

As an aside, the proportion of Miller fans who have purchased or even read 'Holy Terror' (I haven't personally, so can't pass comment) could probably be considered a rounding error.

Feel free to disagree of course, but I'll stand by my opinion on this one - the entire subject is utter nonsense.
: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Mister Pops 30 July, 2021, 04:56:16 PM
What's obvious, to me, would be the assumption that 99.99% of genre fans ... would be perfectly well adjusted "normal" people...

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: Re: Thought Bubble 2020
: Jim_Campbell 30 July, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
Feel free to disagree of course, but I'll stand by my opinion on this one - the entire subject is utter nonsense.

I love the way you snipped the rest of my post to avoid having to respond to my main point about having some empathy with people whose experience is likely very different to yours.

Your Tesco analogy is utterly flawed as well. It's not like "you might run into a racist down at Tesco", it's, say, "would you, as a visibly non-'English' person feel comfortable going to your local Tesco on the day that they're having Nigel Farage signing his latest book there?"

But, no, if you want to tell muslim attendees that they're being silly about voicing concern over the highest profile guest at a con being someone who's voiced virulently anti-Islamic sentiment (and a whole lot of other very right wing stuff into the bargain)… you go right ahead.