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Title: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Apestrife on 23 August, 2020, 08:06:45 AM
I'm pretty sure Matt Reeves will do good by Batman.

DC fandom talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuQiiWCOLiI
The Batman trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g59rUQbVlIw

His aim is to make a more personal detective story. Really liked that aspect of the panel

Stand out for me in the trailer was Jeffrey Wright. His Gordon oozes Batman: Year one Gordon.



Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: broodblik on 23 August, 2020, 08:23:02 AM
Saw the trailer and I also think that Matt Reeves will work as Batman.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: karlos on 23 August, 2020, 11:35:25 AM
That's a great trailer.

Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Robin Low on 23 August, 2020, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: karlos on 23 August, 2020, 11:35:25 AM
That's a great trailer.

You're not kidding. I don't know what I was expecting, but I definitely wasn't expecting that. I will miss Affleck's angry thug, but Pattinson seems like he's got the idea.

Regards,

Robin
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: broodblik on 23 August, 2020, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: broodblik on 23 August, 2020, 08:23:02 AM
Saw the trailer and I also think that Matt Reeves will work as Batman.

Meant to say that Robert Pattinson will work as Batman and not the director
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Professor Bear on 23 August, 2020, 07:09:25 PM
We don't know that Pattinson wouldn't be a good director.

A mish-mash of stuff we've already seen a few times before - even the choice of song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5x4o5m0L4) - but then I think if anyone did anything genuinely original with Batman, they'd probably be fired immediately.  Made me think of the Crow sequels more than anything else, tbh.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 August, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Professor Bear on 23 August, 2020, 07:09:25 PM
Made me think of the Crow sequels more than anything else, tbh.

That was exactly my first thought. The grim dark Batman has got very old and doesn't really have much to say in my mind. We don't need Adam West Batman here but there's more potential to the character than I'm seeing used at the moment.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: broodblik on 23 August, 2020, 08:05:15 PM
That is why we have the shiny happy people from the MCU given us a 40 movie marathon of brightness, light and one-liners of laughs.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: I, Cosh on 23 August, 2020, 10:19:22 PM
Finally, the Wraith remake we never knew we needed. He even has the same car.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Krakajac on 24 August, 2020, 02:49:47 AM
There's a touch of 'se7en' in that trailer - which is no bad thing.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Apestrife on 24 August, 2020, 05:46:20 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 23 August, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Professor Bear on 23 August, 2020, 07:09:25 PM
Made me think of the Crow sequels more than anything else, tbh.

That was exactly my first thought. The grim dark Batman has got very old and doesn't really have much to say in my mind. We don't need Adam West Batman here but there's more potential to the character than I'm seeing used at the moment.

I can confess, this song did come to mind when seeing it first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVu-7obqXng

But I'll give them a pass, since the aim is to make a detective story. And it seems Reeves is planning a trilogy. I think he'll change it up a bit as he goes.

For some less serious and fun stuff, I'm positive the upcoming Flash movie will deliver   https://www.nme.com/news/film/ben-affleck-and-michael-keaton-to-both-return-as-batman-in-the-flash-2733687
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: sheridan on 24 August, 2020, 10:08:20 AM
"The Crow" was trending yesterday.  Wonder why ;)
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: karlos on 24 August, 2020, 10:15:31 AM
This, The Suicide Squad sneak and - yes! - Zack Snyder's Justice League trailer were easily the highlights of the DC Fandome online convention thingy, for me.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 August, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
Get Burton and Keaton back and have them deliver a direct sequel to Returns, loosely based on DKR.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: CalHab on 24 August, 2020, 11:29:07 AM
We've had over 30 years years of DKR and Killing Joke setting the tone for Batman comics and adaptations. Can we please move on?
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 24 August, 2020, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: CalHab on 24 August, 2020, 11:29:07 AM
We've had over 30 years years of DKR and Killing Joke setting the tone for Batman comics and adaptations. Can we please move on?

Yeah. I'm very bored with Armoured Riot Cop Batman™ — I'd very much like to see something more like Breyfogle's lithe, athetic Batman flitting around the rooftoops of Gotham, just for a change...
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Robin Low on 24 August, 2020, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 August, 2020, 11:55:14 AMYeah. I'm very bored with Armoured Riot Cop Batman™ — I'd very much like to see something more like Breyfogle's lithe, athetic Batman flitting around the rooftoops of Gotham, just for a change...

It would be interesting to see something like that, but for some people it stretches credibility too much. With all the guns he'd be faced with, not to mention the unrelenting physical trauma, he wouldn't last. Cunning and shadows would only take him so far.

Obviously, people wanting credibility probably shouldn't be watching these movies anyway.

One of the reasons I'd like to see an animated Dredd is so we can have costumes and bikes that look like the comic, and we don't have to worry about the practical realities.

Regards,

Robin
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: CalHab on 24 August, 2020, 12:39:06 PM
I'd be a lot more excited about an adaptation that took inspiration from Grant/Breyfogle.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 August, 2020, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: CalHab on 24 August, 2020, 12:39:06 PM
I'd be a lot more excited about an adaptation that took inspiration from Grant/Breyfogle.

Yes, you forget what a superb series of comics they produced together.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 24 August, 2020, 02:51:23 PM
Quote from: Robin Low on 24 August, 2020, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 August, 2020, 11:55:14 AMYeah. I'm very bored with Armoured Riot Cop Batman™ — I'd very much like to see something more like Breyfogle's lithe, athetic Batman flitting around the rooftoops of Gotham, just for a change...

It would be interesting to see something like that, but for some people it stretches credibility too much. With all the guns he'd be faced with, not to mention the unrelenting physical trauma, he wouldn't last. Cunning and shadows would only take him so far.

Obviously, people wanting credibility probably shouldn't be watching these movies anyway.

One of the reasons I'd like to see an animated Dredd is so we can have costumes and bikes that look like the comic, and we don't have to worry about the practical realities.

Regards,

Robin

I did like kevlar-plated hulk Batman, but it's wearing a bit thin now.  It really, really worked for movie Dredd though; I never thought I'd say it but it got me wondering if the comics Dredd shouldn't get a bit more practical in his dress.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: JamesC on 24 August, 2020, 03:22:33 PM
I think the trailer is promising, my only problem is that I it seems overly violent.

I'd also like to see a more athletic, less armoured Batman. I think it could work if they approached it like a ninja/martial arts film.
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Robin Low on 24 August, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 24 August, 2020, 02:51:23 PMI did like kevlar-plated hulk Batman, but it's wearing a bit thin now.  It really, really worked for movie Dredd though; I never thought I'd say it but it got me wondering if the comics Dredd shouldn't get a bit more practical in his dress.

To be fair, with advances in material technology it's entirely reasonable to postulate reactive light-weight and flexible body armour that can harden in response to impact, dissipate heat and so forth. They've been doing it in SF for years and you can do it in Dredd easily, too.  With Batman it's not so easy if you want that gritty pretence at realism.


Regards,
Robin
Title: Re: The Batman (2021)
Post by: Funt Solo on 24 August, 2020, 05:28:17 PM
I enjoyed the trailer. I think lots of people have tried to do DKR Batman, but ultimately failed because they like the visuals but can't adopt the correct level of grimness, or the time frame.

This trailer made me think more of Rorschach than DKR, but I like that. I can't see how heroic Batman would be any different than all the MCU cheese on offer.