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Apocalypse War Dossier (https://www.bookdepository.com/Apocalypse-War-Omnibus-John-Ware/9781786186249) - Paperback (novel), 440 pages, 8th November 2022
By  John Ware


Mega City One it's a powderkeg waiting to blow on its best day.

There isn't a moment when tentions aren't running high and the City isn't ready to crack.

But there's something new going on something, something bad it's a block war. It's Block Mania and no one is immune, not even the Judges.

But this is all prelude to invasion.

The East-Meg One Sov's have infected Mega City One with Block-Mania to throw the city into massive, bloody turf wars.

There are troops on the ground, bombs are dropping and the Mega City One is on fire.

And the Judges are drawing the line and Mega City One is about to burn.

Apocalypse War tells the on the ground stories of the Judges in Mega City One during the events of epic Block Mania and Apocalyse War story arch.

New cover:

Sign me up! Just finishing up the Rico Dredd novel, LOVE it! More 2000AD novels please!

I've not found it stated specifically but I presume this is an omnibus version of the three Apocalypse War novellas recently released? Looking forward to it. With the early years mined now (Dredd 1-3, Anderson 1-2) I wonder if this heralds a new phase of novellas set between the panels of existing stories?

I've some reservations over this; stories returning to canon's past with some form of 'untold story' often lead to retcons or glaring continuity errors (my favourite example so far would be the Big Finish audio drama, "Pre-Emptive Revenge", set in the aftermath of Judgement Day, which ends with Dredd [spoiler]speaking over airwaves with Judge Inspector Sadu, despite Sadu having sacrificed himself to stop Sabbat[/spoiler]).

I also highly enjoyed Rico Dredd, though think the Fall of Deadworld might be my overall favourite so far. It's a nice change in tone and genre from the rest. While enjoyable, perhaps I find the Judges stories more of a mixed bag personally, with Michael Carroll's chapters consistently being the most engaging.

Given how the Rico book turned out, I wonder if some form of early years Angel Gang trilogy might work. Perhaps a story giving Link a bit more character, another telling Fink's departure, and a third leading up to Mean's surgery?

Quote from: Lawman of the Present on 31 August, 2022, 08:03:46 PM
I've not found it stated specifically but I presume this is an omnibus version of the three Apocalypse War novellas recently released?

I haven't seen anything concrete, but I'm positive that will be the case.  All these paperbacks like the "Rico" one you mentioned, plus the recent "Judges" series are all made up of three stories initially released as individual novellas.  And we know there are exactly three Apoc War novellas on their way.

Quote from: Lawman of the Present on 31 August, 2022, 08:03:46 PM
Given how the Rico book turned out, I wonder if some form of early years Angel Gang trilogy might work. Perhaps a story giving Link a bit more character, another telling Fink's departure, and a third leading up to Mean's surgery?

Dunno about that - not sure how engaging the Angels will be with a pre-op Mean...

I know what you mean, they can seem a bit one-note. Though, I thought Angelic did a good job of fleshing out Pa (even if it's an alternate universe), and reckon there's plenty material/suggested history for a good writer to work with.

Tell the stories from Mean's perspective. A pre-op Mean as main protagonist would allow the others to remain simplistic, as they're juxtaposed against a sympathetic reader-analogue, who intentionally doesn't fit in. Almost like 'Harry Potter vs the Dursleys' on steroids, except we know Mean is doomed to an unhappy ending.

Have the rest of the gang as antagonists, but maybe bring in Mama Mojo's inbred clan from Missionary Man as the villains. It was inferred that the Angels had encountered them at some point and more than met their match.

Just got my author's complementary copies, and was dismayed to see that a typesetting error has done away with all my italics.
I shouldn't complain too loudly. When I signed up for this I didn't even know if I'd be having any editorial input at all.
However, if occasional emphasis by italicisation is what turns you on, then I hate to be the one to harsh your buzz.

I'm sure I'll have great fun playing the guessing game of where the italics would have been.

Once you've bought it, it's your book.
You can put the italics wherever you like.

How annoying for you! Sorry to hear that.

Surprised they didn't involve you in proof-reading before going to press.

I proofread that baby to hell and back.
Don't know what happened after I signed off on it, mind.
Bloody gremlins.

Rebellion will shortly announce that the italicisation issue is to be remedied for the Apocalypse War Dossier: First Anniversary Edition, forthcoming in 2023, and featuring slipcase, original scripts, critical essays and creator interviews, with an introduction by the late Soviet Defence Minister, Yevgeny Shaposhnikov.

I'm certain of it.

Quote from: JWare on 28 October, 2022, 10:46:03 AM
the late Soviet Defence Minister, Yevgeny Shaposhnikov Traktorfaktori.

Fixed that for you.

On the typesetting issue, it seems I've unfairly maligned the editors. It's really only the second volume that's wonky.
Italics enthusiasts everywhere can breathe a sigh of relief.

I've ordered my copy and look forward to reading it when it arrives :)

Without asking for any spoilers JWare, I'm curious as to how you interpret the timeline of the Apocalypse War and whether this is addressed within the stories? I'm busying away on a Dreddverse chronology and have encounterd some apparent inconsistencies with regards the setting and duration of the War;

In The Doomsday Scenario: The Trial pt. 2 (Prog 1149), Dredd is put on trial by the remnants of East-Meg One for his destruction of the city at the climax of The Apocalypse War. It is stated that the war ended on July 9th 2104, a date known to the Sovs as 'Black July'.

It is also given that Orlok the Assassin entered the Meg in December 2103 (Progs 236-244). Are we to believe the war lasted seven months? This seems inconsistent with the content of the Block Mania and Apocalypse War stories, which appear to take place over a couple of weeks and thus suggest the end of the war occurred in January 2104.

The release of Block Mania 31.10- 26.12.1981 would be roughly consistent with a December setting. The Apocalypse War released 02.01- 26.06.1982 which even by release date of the end of the story, is inconsistent with July 9th (though I appreciate the stories don't always occur in line with release date, especially the mega-epics).

Further evidence can be found in the saga leading into City of the Damned, beginning with A Question of Judgement (Prog 387) which was set on Apocalypse Day (though no placement was given in that story). The eventual City of the Damned (Progs 393-406) saw Dredd and Cass arrive in the year 2120 on April 30th, suggesting they travelled a round 13 years into the future and it would have been the same date in 2107 when the story began. With a few stories passed by this point since A Question of Judgement, this again suggests that Apocalypse Day must occur pre-April in the calendar year and is inconsistent with a July setting.

It is, to my knowledge, never stated whether Apocalypse Day represents the anniversary of the start of the war or the end, though according to what is seen in The Apocalypse War, these dates should be quite close together by a matter of weeks.

Further evidence for a January ending to the Apocalypse War comes from novel Silencer, set May 19-22 2116, which sees a flashback in Chapter 3 recounting a couple emerging from the rubble into early Spring sunshine (as per my notes on that story, "On hearing the bombs of the Apocalypse War begin to fall, Genya Berger and boyfriend Tony hide out and make love in a Citi-Def bomb shelter. 'Nearly six weeks' later they decide to leave. Two days of digging and they emerge into 'early Spring sunshine' - giving the Apocalypse War as occurring around six weeks prior to the beginning of Spring. This is fairly consistent with our placement of that mega-epic at the start of 2104.")

The Big Hit (Progs 1029-1030) released 11.02- 18.02.1997, featured an assassination attempt on Chief Judge Volt at the remembrance day celebration. It was implied that this celebration was for all Big Meg tragedies including the Apocalypse War, Necropolis and Judgement Day, and may be a different event to Apocalypse Day. Perhaps given the amount of tragedies, it has superceded Apocalypse Day? Either way, this story released in February with likely setting in a similar timeframe, which again would be roughly consistent with my estimated end for the Apocalypse War.

Let's not also forget the snow which fell during the war itself, suggesting a winter setting! Though I suppose in a world of rad storms and weather control, anything is possible. Unless any new info comes to light, I'm thus far inclined to regard reference to Black July as erroneous - as far as I can deduce, it should be Black January!

Block Mania only lasted a couple of days. It's not said explicitly, but you can approximate a timeline from caption boxes and the like. Someone did that very thing for the 1984 Dredd Annual, and I referred to it often while I was planning my story.
The war, as far as I can tell, wasn't much more than a week or ten days. A Sov judge says straight out that the Griffin hit happened only four days into the war, and everything after that happened in a rush.
I assumed that it all happened in winter, but I didn't give it much thought.
I was happy to ignore any later source that contradicted the original story. To be honest, I'm very shaky on the Dreddverse after, say, 1990. The stuff from the eighties, on the other hand, I can practically recite from memory.

So when exactly did the events of The Citadel fit in? That's John Wagner's business. I'd already finished my story by the time it appeared.

Awesome thank you for the reply! I think I missed that Griffin hit reference. Might be time for a re-read of Apocalypse War before the dossier arrives :D

Rereading is probably advisable.
Looking at the story this afternoon, I began to worry that maybe I'd taken fan service a bit too far in places.When I was writing I'd just been assuming that the reader would, like me, be intimately familiar with every chapter and verse of the original progs.
The story will still make perfect sense if you're not, but you might miss out on the full self-satisfied nerdy experience.

I've not carefully read BM/AW to analyse the timings, but aren't there at least a few sections of both stories that have general Dredd fighting montages, which could have lasted hours, days or weeks?

Yes, there is a montage in the Apocalypse War, but it covers a period that lasts two to three days tops, given that it happens before the assassination run which takes place four days into the war.

Block Mania, ep. 6. There's a lot of widescreen action going on in the preceding episodes, but when Dredd discovers the water is contaminated, a caption box tells us that a fifty-block war in the northern sectors had been raging for a day and a half.

Apocalypse War, ep. 7. The Sovs invade on the first day of the war. ('Only yesterday I was pulling in perps on these streets.')

Ep. 17. The assassination run. Sov Judge Gogol puts us in the picture. ('It has taken us a mere four days to conquer half their city.')

Ep. 19. Opening caption says it's the eighth day of the war. This is the day that Dredd puts the Apocalypse Squad together.

If I dicked around with this then a mob of angry fans could drag me from my house and John Wagner wouldn't lift a finger to help me.

If it fell to me to explain when The Citadel happened, I'd say that it could have happened if Dredd took a break from his guerrilla war and rescued the cadets before going back to take down Dan Tanna.
Slightly less unlikely, it could have taken place after the assassination run, with Dredd getting out of Med Bay, putting on a clean uniform, linking up with the cadets, and then changing back into his ragged bullet-holed gear before winning the war.
I'm not sure a jury would buy it either way.

QuoteSlightly less unlikely, it could have taken place after the assassination run, with Dredd getting out of Med Bay, putting on a clean uniform, linking up with the cadets, and then changing back into his ragged bullet-holed gear before winning the war.
I'm not sure a jury would buy it either way.

Presumably Dredd also travels years into the future first, to bring back the next-gen Lawgivers he and the cadets are using in Citadel.

Well there you go.
Glad we got that cleared up so easily.

Quote from: GordonR on 13 November, 2022, 10:40:39 AM
Presumably Dredd also travels years into the future first, to bring back the next-gen Lawgivers he and the cadets are using in Citadel.

In The Citadel we're explicitly being told a story, rather than watching a flashback - we're 'seeing' events through the filter of Father O'Dow, as he listens to Winterton's reminiscences. A priest is unlikely to have a particularly good eye for judge tech, so of course he's imagining current uniforms and guns, the kind he sees on the streets every day.

Well there's clever!
Not only did I not see it that way at the time, I wasn't forgiving enough to grant writer or artist much latitude when it came to one of the formative stories of my youth.

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 14 November, 2022, 11:13:04 AM

Quote from: GordonR on 13 November, 2022, 10:40:39 AM
Presumably Dredd also travels years into the future first, to bring back the next-gen Lawgivers he and the cadets are using in Citadel.

In The Citadel we're explicitly being told a story, rather than watching a flashback - we're 'seeing' events through the filter of Father O'Dow, as he listens to Winterton's reminiscences. A priest is unlikely to have a particularly good eye for judge tech, so of course he's imagining current uniforms and guns, the kind he sees on the streets every day.

I could just about squint and convince myself that the Lawgiver's were MK 1, albeit in the Cornwell Droid's distinct style.

Those covers featuring highly detailed Mk II's however...

Having finished the Dossier, great job JWare it was very much enjoyed!

While one continuous story, I liked that each book had it's own theme and the series felt overall like a proper trilogy. The new characters are entertaining and carried the story well. The gradual descent into chaos at the start was handled effectively.

[SPOILER]Keeping Dredd himself to the background and never directly speaking was a smart move I think, preventing him from stealing the show and inserting himself into something which isn't his story. It played on his legendary status and added a nice element of mystery to him, that a Judge of his rank and status is both involved and yet somewhat removed from most Judges.[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER]The appearance of McGruder was a nice surprise in the final act, and I enjoyed the subtle hint that her developing madness may have stemmed from her head wound.[/SPOILER]

Perhaps I felt some of the chapters were overly short in places and could have been combined to aid pacing, particularly towards the end of book one? But overall a nice thumbs up from me! Perhaps we can get another 'boots in the ground' series following characters trapped in MC-1 during the Big Nec'?

Somebody read my book! Yay!

[spoiler]Dredd was kept in the background because his story has been comprehensively told already. (Also, I didn't quite have the nerve to write him.)[/spoiler]

The chapters were kept short because I feel pulp demands it.

You can thank my editor, Jim Killen, for [spoiler]McGruder's inclusion[/spoiler]. I only had an idea for a Block Mania story, but Rebellion wanted the full set, and there was no way on God's earth I was going to turn down that opportunity. I got the impression that Jim (who's American) had only read the original comic the weekend before our Zoom call, but when he made a few suggestions, I naturally said Yessir.

I have precisely zero ideas for further stories, and I have no idea if Rebellion is even planning on any more novellas. My efforts right now are on writing the last of my Dirty Shirt books, but obviously, if the House of Tharg should need my services, rest assured I will answer the call. No sacrifice is too great.

By the way, the release of the three volumes was originally to have been staggered, with one novella every three months. Hence the little recaps in the second and third volumes.
Also, the title Dossier was an editorial decision, and nothing to do with me. I suppose they could have called it The Apocalypse War Omnibus, but then people might have complained when they found that the original comic wasn't included. I dunno. I haven't a clue what I'd have called it myself.

Quote from: JWare on 13 January, 2023, 02:59:48 PM
I haven't a clue what I'd have called it myself.

I think Dossier is a decent name as it fits the wartime theme well. The only other thing that comes to mind are the repeat references in the Dreddverse that many of MC-1's files were lost during the Apocalypse War.

Perhaps something like Apocalypse War: The Lost Files or Lost Records might have worked, if the stories were bookended with present-day-Dreddverse chapters featuring an archivist of sorts still working through the backlog, and discovering all these untold stories from old reports as they do so.

In fact, I read a story recently featuring something similar; The Big Lie, Prog 2224, where a cit is sentenced to archival duties to make sense of all the Department's unsorted missing persons paperwork from Necropolis. Perhaps there's the start of the next book! ;)

Re: the chapters, certainly wasn't a problem - For the most part it reminded me of the short Prog chapters in the original story and made for easy reading, going through a couple chapters a night!

Quote from: Lawman of the Present on 13 January, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
I think Dossier is a decent name as it fits the wartime theme well.
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Re: the chapters, certainly wasn't a problem - For the most part it reminded me of the short Prog chapters in the original story and made for easy reading, going through a couple chapters a night!

The Apocalypse War: Forbidden Tales! (parental advisory)
I can live with Dossier.
As for reading short chapters, I'm at the age when I find long ones daunting. Actually, I think I always did, but at least long ago I was able to stick my nose in a book and keep it there for hours on end. Nowadays there's just too much stuff.

QuoteBy the way, the release of the three volumes was originally to have been staggered, with one novella every three months.

I was out of the loop, but Michael Molcher can confirm (or deny).
I believe there was to have been greater fanfare for the 40th anniversary of the Apocalypse War, but then Vladimir Putin did a Bad Thing, and celebrating Soviet nukes flying around suddenly didn't seem so funny anymore.
I know that once the Ukrainian war started, I got onto Mike to ask him if I could axe the cheery publicity I'd written at his request, and that's when I was told that publication had been put on hold. The novellas all came out at once (six months behind) because the schedule for the omnibus edition couldn't be so easily changed.

Oh yeah, Lawman – I should have said right off the bat. Your feedback is hugely appreciated. I'm delighted you liked the book. Many thanks.

Right.
Now I'm genuinely offended.
I've only just noticed that the title of the first volume in the omnibus edition isn't given as Pack Instinct but as 'Pact Instinct'.
I mean it's only the bloody title, written there in big bloody letters on the front page. How hard can it be to get it right?
It also appears to be consistently misspelled on the contents page of the Kindle edition.
If this – and the other editing glitches – were my fault, I'd apologise.
'Pact Instinct.' Fuck's sake.

Only just seen your previous reply JWare, you're most welcome. Thank you for an entertaining read!

I too didn't notice 'Pact Instinct', how frustrating. The only typo I noticed while making obsessive and pedantic (but evidently not enough so) chronology notes was p429 where McGruder is referred to as "McGrudger"! Otherwise, I thought it was airtight and fit very nicely into the canon.

'McGrudger'? Bloody hell.
I've noticed a couple of editorial hiccups in vol. 2. Besides omitting italics, some bright spark thought to improve my prose and slightly mangled the meaning in doing so. I won't draw attention to them by saying exactly where these errors can be found.
However, you will be pleased to know, Lawman, that when I ascend to greatness I will make you my nitpicker-in-chief. (Your staff can do the work while you sit behind a large desk and dispense patronage.)

I've finished adding the novellas to my chronology project, and it appears there's a wonderful little reference at the end of Ch. 6 which links directly to a panel in The Apocalypse War pt. 23, suggesting we see Mercer, Steinman and Robinson in the comic itself (wherein they are unnamed):

Novella Ch. 6:
"They were almost afraid to hope, but they'd seen enough nuclear fireballs to know that what they were seeing now had to be TADs. Dredd had actually pulled it off. He'd totalled East-Meg One. So, the Mega-City Judges had a chance at last."

AW pt. 23, page 3, panel 2-3
Caption: To many of the beleaguered resistance fighters, the meaning is clear -
Judge 1: TADs! Gotta be!
Judge 2: Then - Dredd's succeeded! He's totalled 'East-Meg One!
Judge 1: We've got a chance at last! Hit those East-Megs with everything you've got!

From the above, I'm inferring that Judge 1 is Steinman, while Judge 2 is Mercer. What I assume to be Robinson is seen in panel 2 with no dialogue.

I am mid way through the second volume and I can see that the writer has posted here so I just wanted to drop a message to say I am enjoying this and it all feels right. Thanks!

Quote from: WhizzBang on 23 March, 2023, 08:00:37 PM...it all feels right.

Really glad you're enjoying it, WhizzBang*. When I pitched this to Rebellion I solemnly swore on a copy of Prog 245 that I would be faithful to the source material, so help me Tharg.

*(Are you indeed named after a 7.7cm shell?)

Quote from: Lawman of the Present on 23 March, 2023, 07:14:53 PMit appears there's a wonderful little reference at the end of Ch. 6 which links directly to a panel in The Apocalypse War pt. 23, suggesting we see Mercer, Steinman and Robinson in the comic itself

We've never met, Lawman, but I wrote this book for someone exactly like you. [big pink heart emoji]

Carlos didn't draw my characters quite as I'd envisaged them, but there they are. Well spotted.

Meant to get it when it came out.  Forgot.  Ordered now.  Shall have to not read it for a bit so that I forget all the spoilers I read on this thread!