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2000 AD => General => Topic started by: Colin YNWA on 12 May, 2022, 06:22:02 AM

Title: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 May, 2022, 06:22:02 AM
Well a very significant week in the tournament as we enter Round 3 after the seemingly unending Round two. We're down to the last 128 thrills and from here the quality will step up,  but the choices start to get harder. But the lovely thing about this round is there is still plenty of room for mis-matches...

Final tie of the week is a gift for these intros. Brigand Doom came out of David D'Antiquis lush, deep Shadows to see off Disaster 1990 and then proved Kelly's Eye wasn't immortal in Round 2. Shadows bring un doom to Bonjo and under-rated sports classic Second City Blues...

...look I said a gift not one you'd want!

Brigand Doom - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=brigand)

Vs

Shadows - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=shadows)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Sunday 15th May and the winner gets a place in Round 4 (of 9!!!).

What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)

For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: broodblik on 12 May, 2022, 06:42:41 AM
Brigand Doom
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: moly on 12 May, 2022, 07:04:45 AM
Brigand doom
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: davidbishop on 12 May, 2022, 07:20:11 AM
The art of Dave is doing a lot of heavy lifting [along with some lucky draws] to carry Brigand Doom into round 4.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: abelardsnazz on 12 May, 2022, 07:42:57 AM
Shadows.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 12 May, 2022, 08:08:05 AM
Brigand Doom

SBT
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2022, 08:28:06 AM
Brigand Doom: great style, but no substance. It didn't know what it wanted to be, so although it looks great, it reads like a dud. Shadows is no 2000 AD classic, but it has that substance. Also, given where we are today, it seems quite prescient. So: Shadows.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: AlexF on 12 May, 2022, 10:09:31 AM
Brigand Doom was a great series with stellar art, but remained in search of more than one actually well-conceived plot. Shadows was a very interesting one-off tale with charming art. I guess both are attempting to comment on how unfair it is that there will always be rich people who care not a jot for the plight of the poor. I wish Doom had been better than it actually was, because the bits where the large occiasonally zombified man in 18th century garb delivers poetic justice were neat, but in this team up it's the psychedelic cyber-tramps who win for me. Maybe, if McKenzie had pulled off a Mulholland Drive thing where Investigator Nine turned out to be Doom all along, but in a dream world, I'd give it more credit - but the story never quite got there.

Shadows.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: credo on 12 May, 2022, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2022, 08:28:06 AM
Brigand Doom: great style, but no substance. It didn't know what it wanted to be, so although it looks great, it reads like a dud. Shadows is no 2000 AD classic, but it has that substance. Also, given where we are today, it seems quite prescient. So: Shadows.

This, so Shadows for me.

Doom was a good idea searching for an execution. Unfortunately, that idea was V for Vendetta already.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Barrington Boots on 12 May, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2022, 08:28:06 AM
Brigand Doom: great style, but no substance. It didn't know what it wanted to be, so although it looks great, it reads like a dud. Shadows is no 2000 AD classic, but it has that substance. Also, given where we are today, it seems quite prescient. So: Shadows.

This sums it up for me too. Another vote for Shadows here please Colin.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Blue Cactus on 12 May, 2022, 10:55:37 AM
Tharg. Reprint Shadows in the next few days so I can vote here please. Thanks bud.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Proudhuff on 12 May, 2022, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: davidbishop on 12 May, 2022, 07:20:11 AM
The art of Dave is doing a lot of heavy lifting [along with some lucky draws] to carry Brigand Doom into round 4.

This for me ^^^^
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Huey2 on 12 May, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
Shadows
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: paddykafka on 12 May, 2022, 12:15:59 PM
Shadows
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Southstreeter on 12 May, 2022, 01:04:40 PM
Brigand Doom
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 12 May, 2022, 01:31:25 PM
shadows
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Funt Solo on 12 May, 2022, 03:42:26 PM
Color me surprised at the amount of Doom votes here. It's Shadows by a country mile.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: broodblik on 12 May, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
What's more surprising is the amount of people voting out of the shadows
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: maryanddavid on 12 May, 2022, 10:47:53 PM
I dont remember much of either, but I do remember not liking Doom and liking Shadows. So Shadows it it!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: rogue69 on 13 May, 2022, 08:36:54 AM
Brigand Doom
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Magnetica on 13 May, 2022, 09:11:17 AM
Shadows.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 May, 2022, 06:57:46 AM
Another vote that shows just how close more and more votes will become as the quality of the thrill elevates through the rounds. No idea - get them last day votes in and I'll tell ya the winner when I actually count things in the morning.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 14 May, 2022, 01:28:31 PM
Shadows for me.   I really liked it.   Brigand Doom was fine but suffers from comparison to its clear inspiration. You know, the one by that beardy guy.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 May, 2022, 07:11:11 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Pete Milligan day here. Two of this stand alone thrills have triumphed. Different stories but both dealing with one of his key themes identity smartly and with real flare and imagination. Shadows only real problem is how many stories, beyond 2000ad, have taken similar ideas that it can read as over familar when revisited. Enough folks remembered it was one of the first to deal with this to get over some great and deserved affection for Brigand Doom and particularly its deep, atmospheric art so perfect for the story.

Shadows

will be the thrill asking us questions in Round 4 however.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: broodblik on 15 May, 2022, 07:17:40 AM
Both these should be collected sometimes good  for a floppy or two
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Funt Solo on 15 May, 2022, 10:01:31 PM
Aye, it's difficult to believe that neither of them have graced a floppy, even.

Shadows has the stronger story, and Brigand Doom the stronger style, but they're both worth a second look. Well, perhaps not Account Yorga-Vampire.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Brigand Doom vs. Shadows Round 3 Heat 8
Post by: Link Prime on 16 May, 2022, 01:57:11 PM
Damn, missed a coupla good votes last week.
Would have Plinked for Brigand Doom.