Title: Dredd Years
Post by: El Spurioso on 03 July, 2003, 04:57:01 PM
Post by: El Spurioso on 03 July, 2003, 04:57:01 PM
Folks - can someone refresh my memory? How many years ahead of us is the Dredd world? Something like 122, IIRC?
Any help appreciated.
Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Leigh S on 03 July, 2003, 04:59:23 PM
Post by: Leigh S on 03 July, 2003, 04:59:23 PM
Yep -122
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: John Caliber on 03 July, 2003, 07:57:56 PM
Post by: John Caliber on 03 July, 2003, 07:57:56 PM
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: El Spurioso on 03 July, 2003, 09:34:05 PM
Post by: El Spurioso on 03 July, 2003, 09:34:05 PM
Watch, thanks me ole mucker.
Caliber - 2003 + 122 is indeed 2125, so good work.
Caliber - 2003 + 122 is indeed 2125, so good work.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Wake on 03 July, 2003, 09:42:37 PM
Post by: Wake on 03 July, 2003, 09:42:37 PM
The way I remember it is that 2000AD started in 1977, and the early Dredd stories were in 2099, before the turn of the century.
Wake
Wake
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 03 July, 2003, 09:51:17 PM
Post by: DavidXBrunt on 03 July, 2003, 09:51:17 PM
The way I remember it is by looking at that little box with the story details in under Thargs column in every issue for the last goodness knows how long.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: WoD on 03 July, 2003, 10:13:07 PM
Post by: WoD on 03 July, 2003, 10:13:07 PM
Dredd years....Are these sort of like dog years, but in reverse, where for every one of our years, only a quarter of a tear goes past for Dredd (or possibly even less).
WOD
WOD
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: John Caliber on 04 July, 2003, 01:41:49 AM
Post by: John Caliber on 04 July, 2003, 01:41:49 AM
I think Dredd began with a timeframe that did not tally up with the 122 year scheme; not sure when that was initiated.
- John
- John
Link: Judge Dredd Justice Central
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 04 July, 2003, 02:25:58 AM
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 04 July, 2003, 02:25:58 AM
'The Cursed Earth' was set in 2100, iirc.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 03:32:44 AM
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 03:32:44 AM
More question weirdness, if anyone can help:
The 'Black Atlantic' seperates MC1 from what was once Europe et al. What has the Pacific ocean become?
The 'Black Atlantic' seperates MC1 from what was once Europe et al. What has the Pacific ocean become?
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Leigh S on 04 July, 2003, 04:12:59 AM
Post by: Leigh S on 04 July, 2003, 04:12:59 AM
The only mention of the Pacific is in Oz IIRC - it was mostly unpolluted - dolphins larking and such.... Might also have been touched upon in Shimura, or that Shimura Dredd story with the Coral city....?
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Leigh S on 04 July, 2003, 04:15:53 AM
Post by: Leigh S on 04 July, 2003, 04:15:53 AM
To quote Chopper:
"Out here where the vastness of the Pacific has almost washed away the ravages of Man's wars and the sea is blue and the air is almost clear"
"Out here where the vastness of the Pacific has almost washed away the ravages of Man's wars and the sea is blue and the air is almost clear"
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 04:25:19 AM
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 04:25:19 AM
Ta very mooch.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 04:33:41 AM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 04:33:41 AM
its always been 122 years, 1977 + 122 = 2099. When Dredd was on Luna 1 and the geezer went futsie (22nd Century Futzie Prog 45) as the fire works went off and Luna 1 celebrated it becoming 2100, we saw that as our year progressed so did Dredd's.
Prog 45
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Prog 45
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 04:50:25 AM
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 04:50:25 AM
Would anyone like to see flahback stories set just after Dredd graduated? Imagine a fitter, leaner Dredd, dishing out justice.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: McNulty on 04 July, 2003, 05:15:03 AM
Post by: McNulty on 04 July, 2003, 05:15:03 AM
We had that recently in the Megazine. A story set when Chief Judge Goodman was still alive. A few historical blunders but a good story none-the-less. I for one wouldn't mind if they did more.
Link: The A=Z of Cal-Hab
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Bart Oliver on 04 July, 2003, 05:20:13 AM
Post by: Bart Oliver on 04 July, 2003, 05:20:13 AM
I would Ratty.
Joe was possitively stick-like in the begining- not forgeting the fuller lips and the much smaller chin.
Anyone got a graphic?
Yeah, it's always been 122 years- it's just that when we were juves the years seemed to last longer.
B.
Joe was possitively stick-like in the begining- not forgeting the fuller lips and the much smaller chin.
Anyone got a graphic?
Yeah, it's always been 122 years- it's just that when we were juves the years seemed to last longer.
B.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 05:21:10 AM
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 05:21:10 AM
Wasn't monkey on my back set just before the day the law died?
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 05:51:57 AM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 05:51:57 AM
No early McMahon image to hane but have a Rufus pic from Courtroom, the rejected first Dredd story by Jack Adrian. Rufus is as close to early McMahon as you?ll ever get without a time machine.
For the full story go to the ?79 site:
or jump straight to Courtroom
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
For the full story go to the ?79 site:
or jump straight to Courtroom
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 July, 2003, 05:53:10 AM
Post by: Tiplodocus on 04 July, 2003, 05:53:10 AM
Mega City One was all trees and fields in Prog 1.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Bart Oliver on 04 July, 2003, 06:08:16 AM
Post by: Bart Oliver on 04 July, 2003, 06:08:16 AM
I thought it was a stab at pre-prog 2 Dredd.
Not retro enough for me in the end- maybe it would be an idea for next time if anyone/all concerned made more of an effort to capture the general feel of Dredd's salad days.
Mr. Dayglo proved it's possible.
B.
Not retro enough for me in the end- maybe it would be an idea for next time if anyone/all concerned made more of an effort to capture the general feel of Dredd's salad days.
Mr. Dayglo proved it's possible.
B.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: John Caliber on 04 July, 2003, 03:24:06 PM
Post by: John Caliber on 04 July, 2003, 03:24:06 PM
'its always been 122 years, 1977 + 122 = 2099.'
I compiled a very detailed Dredd tmeline just over a year since which brought up some questions concerning the timeframe of certain very early stories which did not fall neatly into the +122 year formula.
Am I imaging it, or where some stories set after the first Dredd strip set in 2098, not 2099? Probably typos - if my memory is correct [which is not a cert to be sure]
- John
I compiled a very detailed Dredd tmeline just over a year since which brought up some questions concerning the timeframe of certain very early stories which did not fall neatly into the +122 year formula.
Am I imaging it, or where some stories set after the first Dredd strip set in 2098, not 2099? Probably typos - if my memory is correct [which is not a cert to be sure]
- John
Link: Judge Dredd Justice Central
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 03:38:34 PM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 04 July, 2003, 03:38:34 PM
There have been a few mistakes which are just typos or the artists fault a quick example that comes to mind from the history research ive been doing for John.
Prog 21: The Solar Sniper (Gerry Finley-Day. Art: Ron Turner) Although the text box says 2099AD the artwork has the date as 24th February 2090 in two places.
there are a number of these but in the end they'll go down as typos or artists mistakes and John will just ignore them.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Prog 21: The Solar Sniper (Gerry Finley-Day. Art: Ron Turner) Although the text box says 2099AD the artwork has the date as 24th February 2090 in two places.
there are a number of these but in the end they'll go down as typos or artists mistakes and John will just ignore them.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: ukdane on 04 July, 2003, 06:36:10 PM
Post by: ukdane on 04 July, 2003, 06:36:10 PM
Spur: are you working on a Dredd tale/novel?
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 09:36:30 PM
Post by: El Spurioso on 04 July, 2003, 09:36:30 PM
Perish the thought.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 10:54:06 PM
Post by: Misanthrope on 04 July, 2003, 10:54:06 PM
I can remember the aggro dome was set in 2120. A massive jump in years at the time.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 05 July, 2003, 08:36:17 AM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 05 July, 2003, 08:36:17 AM
Aggro Dome appeared in Prog 183 printed on the 25th October 1980 + 122 years gives you 2102.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Misanthrope on 06 July, 2003, 05:05:22 AM
Post by: Misanthrope on 06 July, 2003, 05:05:22 AM
But I thought the date given in the strip itself was 2120. Do you have the prog to hand. Mr Logan?
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 06 July, 2003, 06:07:50 AM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 06 July, 2003, 06:07:50 AM
>But I thought the date given in the strip itself was 2120. Do you have the prog to hand. Mr Logan?
Got the Bad Science reprint next to the loo at the moment and its reprinted in that:
and it opens; Mega-City One. August 2102 A.D.
now it could have been chaged and cant check the Prog til the morning.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Got the Bad Science reprint next to the loo at the moment and its reprinted in that:
and it opens; Mega-City One. August 2102 A.D.
now it could have been chaged and cant check the Prog til the morning.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: Smiley on 06 July, 2003, 06:45:42 AM
Post by: Smiley on 06 July, 2003, 06:45:42 AM
Yeah, it was changed.
Title: Re: Dredd Years
Post by: W. R. Logan on 06 July, 2003, 03:35:42 PM
Post by: W. R. Logan on 06 July, 2003, 03:35:42 PM
>Yeah, it was changed.
cheers, saves me digging the Prog out.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
cheers, saves me digging the Prog out.
La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.