If anyone has the Terminator 2 dic Region 2 DVD check it now!
Was talking about this yesterday with some mates and some found that their discs had become unplayable due to white transparent sticky film on both discs.
I checked mine today a low and behold the same has happened to mine.
I cleaned it off with CD cleaner and now it's fine.
Worth checking out if you have this disc.
Ewwww...
Nothing like that on mine. Good job as well!
Yep this has been a problem for a while now, I heard MGM were replacing copies FOC, mine is the same but I haven't got around to sending it back yet.
You can tell if your copy is suffering as a "misting" appears on the playing surface of the disc.
Ed
I didn't know it had happened with T2 but it happened with the 1st Terminator dvd (happened to mine).
It's so Skynet can take over your dvd... soon it'll be showing you the remakes of Get Carter, Rollerball and Mean Machine, and what's more you'll be liking them as a prelude to being terminated
Not forgetting the italian job.
Bastards.
Same things happening to my R1.
It's happened to a couple of films I own, most recently the Wachowskis' 'Bound' and the aforementioned T2. I imagine it's something to do with the glue holding the two parts of the disc together leaking out, is it not?
Isn't the Italian Job remake supposed to be rather good, though? It certainly seems to be getting some pretty good reviews.
Not that the original is that much cop, tbh. Other than the last twenty minutes, with the minis and that last scene and the closing credits song, can anyone really say there's anything very memorable about The Italian Job?
Over-rated 60s brit-bollox...
My sister (across the pond) reports the Italian Job remake - sorry, homage - is tons of fun with loads of action.
I quite like the first one, but I'm open-minded on this one, in possibly the first example of open-mindedness on my part for a remake.
Eg: Psycho 2000? What's the bastard point of that?
- Trout
Re. the original Italian Job.
I like the fact that you've got Benny Hill and Noel Coward in the same film, but, y'know, other than that...
And it's to blame for the line that that spawned a million bad Michael Caine impressions.
The remake is rather good, I thought, but it won't change your life. Lots of nice action and mini-chasing, albiet with a standard American movie plot shoehorned in. Honour and Revenge and all that patriotic bullshit that crops up in so many of these trashy $100Million Hollywood carcasses. Actually the whole film is quite similar to the Ocean's Eleven remake.
Couldn't top the original, I'm afraid.
all that patriotic bullshit that crops up in so many of these trashy $100Million Hollywood carcassesGood job there wasn't any patriotic bullshit in the original ITALIAN JOB, eh?
PS. The original ITALIAN JOBS is tops. Gordon Rennie is a nincompoop. That is all.
Link: The Andy Diggle Forum
"Good job there wasn't any patriotic bullshit in the original ITALIAN JOB, eh?"
Yeah good point actually. I think it's just the American bit that gets me.
> I like the fact that you've got Benny Hill and
> Noel Coward in the same film, but, y'know,
> other than that...
Like they say, you're either a writer or a critic...
...and Gordon's a very good writer...
Shockingly, the reviewer at BBC Films seems to agree with me.
Thank goodness it wasn't Nev Pierce. He and I seem to diametrically disagree on everything.
I do feel a bit queasy at the thought of Mark Wahlberg in the remake, though.
Link: "....the bloody doors orf!"
I must say I hated the 'Job for years after loving it as a kid... it was not helped by being on every second bank holiday (alternating with The Great Escape) and being a big influence on all the New Lad, Cool Brittania bolloks...
However several years later I watched it again and decided that it's actually a cracker...
You've got the cool opening, Caine is great throughout (the scene where he get's his car back is brilliant). And it's the only Benny Hill performance where I don't want to kill him...
I like the movie. I like Caine in prison, leaving prison, sneaking back into prison, Noel Coward, Caine having his car wrecked, getting his suits made, Benny Hill, Irene Handle, the board meeting of amalgamated crimmos, the theme music, caine watching the dead mans plans on film...
Lots of it really and I don't watch it for the doors being more than blown off or the car chase or the fact that because some Loaded readers like it, then I must too.
This new film looks as though it's just going to look like another 'high-octane' (yawn) explosivey coolfest which takes place in a world we neither inhabit, recognise, believe in or want to visit. Swordfish with cars and twats who can't hold a gun properly. Enjoyable until the very moment you have a single thought about it.
Ahoy,
"It's happened to a couple of films I own, most recently the Wachowskis' 'Bound' "
How odd - I've got a version of this covered strange icky white goo as well...
Italian Job original - It must be said, I think I'm with Rennie - for ages I thought it was a cracking film based on memories from years back and then I watched it again and a lot of it made me cringe. There are some admittedly brilliant strokes in it but the cringe factor was too much for me to enthuse about it. The only reason I'm thinking about going to see the remake is because it's a 12 and I can take the kids - that's how much choice we get these days. Mark Wahlberg - doesn't he just disappoint on so many levels after a promising start...
I was actually pretty impressed with Ocean's 11 the remake in a "Hollywood exerise in cool" kind of way. Silk purse out of a pig's ear was the phrase that sprung to mind.
Er... me hearties.
Ive noticed that Ocean's 12 is now in pre production. Ocean's 11 is a passable remake, but has the problem, like Italian Job, of the original not being very good.
It does seem that Hollywood love to remake films that are seen as "cool", rather than good.
BTW - dont scriptwriters want to create their "own" film??
Yer Slips
Oceans Eleven is a film that gets my blood boiling ? that scene where Clooney and Pitt are in a restaurant talking about how they need Don Cheadle to join the gang: Pitt says ?there might be a bit of a problem there? ? cut to a scene where Don Cheadle is involved in a bungled bank raid and the cops arrest him ? only to be whisked away by Pitt pretending to be a cop.
Now: If Pitt is aware that Cheadles job has gone sour, how in hell can he then turn up and rescue him? If he has rescued him (putting aside the question of how he knew he would need it), why tell Clooney there?s a problem? ARRRGH!!!
At this point I stopped trying to follow the film and decided to hate it for treating me with contempt? can anyone shed light on this ? did I miss something, or mishear someone ? does this actually make sense and I got the wrong end of the stick? Or is it a prime example of how Hollywood has realised it can treat the audience as thickoes and get away with it
I think what the scriptwriter wants comes *very* low in the priorities of your average Hollywood studio, they be bilge rats the lot of 'em, arrr.
I'd have thought if you wanted to do a remake, it'd be a positive advantage for the original to be rubbish. Ocean's 11 being a case in point, IMO.
"BTW - dont scriptwriters want to create their "own" film??"
Probably, but it must be a damn sight easier to re-work an existing film. And given that everything is pitched as a cross between X and Y i.e. Jurassic Park meets Cheech & Chong, or A Passage To India meets I Spit On Your Grave etc, how much more succesful is a pitch going to be if the writer can say "it's not a cross - it IS Casablanca/A Night At The Opera/The Wild Bunch"? The money men will invariably choose an option that has the lesser risk and comes with built-in advertising and word-of-mouth.
Nigel (cynical)
I would give one of my fins to see Jurassic Park meets Cheech and Chong.
Can you imagine?
"AAAAGH! Here come the raptors! Run!"
"Okay.... in a minute... soon..."
:-)
- Trout
"AAAAGH! Here come the raptors! Run!"
Velocirapture, perhaps?
Nigel
Good example of the general state of creativity in Hollywood is that new Underworld film.
"I know instead of doing something vaguely original, I'll just mash Romeo and Juliet into the Matrix with um... Vampires! Ooh, and Werewolves! That'd be great!" give me strength...
Mind you, Kate Beckinsale in tight latex... might have to go and see it just so I can, er, moan about it.
Yes.
Er, me hearties.
(Big C tries not too look like a perv, fails and slinks back to his non-euclidean play pen)
Oceans 11 is a bit of a disappointment. None of the little "gathering the crew" scenes in Oceans 11 really work, except for as an attempt to show off "cool attitude" which largely fails, I find it alittle hard to know or care if there are actualy 11 people in the crew and the actual job itself seems to be based on a very flimsy plan that relies too much on things conveniently going just right. It's confidently and competently done though, and it's a bad film, just a bit average, and a little too smug about how cool it thinks it is when it isn?t.
A pause now for a dodgy forwarded email joke:
>> Jim Morrison is sitting in one corner, with the rest of
>> his band. In another corner are John Lenon, Paul
>> McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr, all are naked.
>>
>> Gillian Talyforth walks in, drops to her knees in front of
>> Jim Morrison and begins to play the pink oboe. She
>> swallows nicely and then starts on his guitarist, then the
>> drummer and finally the keyboard player. When she's
>> finished, she licks her lips, wanders over to John Lenon
>> and begins to do the same to him.
>>
>> At that moment there's a huge crash, and Michael Caine
>> smashes through the >wall in a mini cooper, jumps out,
>> grabs her by the scruff of the neck and shouts, "Oi! You
>> were only supposed to blow the bloody Doors off!"
May I suggest then, that on absolutely no account should you ever watch the risible (in a bad way) JOHNNY ENGLISH.
It's meant to be a comedy, alledgedly, but there is absolutely NO logic to the villains actions. None. It makes not the slightest jot of sense. Nothing that happens is logical, it happens only to set up a lame gag and/or move the heroes into the next scene.
And you've all made me think I've been too kind to Oceans 11 (remake).
Me, hearties.
Never watch Punch Drunk Love either, as its basically Mr Bean done as an unwatchably smug and pretentious art film.
Arrr! a keelhaulin for Rowan Atkinson! Make him walk the plank and stuff some parrots in his ears for the scurvy scurvyness that is Johnny English! Gaarrr, and a double keelhaulin for makin' Bean! Off with his eyebrows! the lily livered past faced land lubber!
Also his appearance in Scooby Doo.
Another film to avoid is identity, far too clever for its own good and the twist is too obvious (if you can call it a twist)
Yer Slips
Yarrr!!! That be too kind afate for the scum behind "Blackadder Back and Forth"!
ID... you want some? do yah! do yah!...
Coming soon, the adaptation of The Football Factory starring some total prat who was on late night at the Salon last night. Great opening paragraph that book but lack of any plot makes it an interesting one to adapt...
If Pitt is aware that Cheadles job has gone sour, how in hell can he then turn up and rescue him?Pitt didn't know the job had gone sour. The "problem" he was referring to was the fact that Cheadle was already working on another job for a different gang. Pitt was just thinking on the fly when he impersonated the detective.
Link: The Andy Diggle Forum
"Pitt didn't know the job had gone sour. The "problem" he was referring to was the fact that Cheadle was already working on another job for a different gang. Pitt was just thinking on the fly when he impersonated the detective."
See? You just don't fuck with a script droid...
Hmmm, thinking on the fly and in the area when the job took place...? Methinks I'll have to rewatch that bit to see if it stands up ...
Right - having watched it (thank God for DVDs ability to skip big chunks) Pitt says "there's an issue with availability", so the "on another job" theory holds up to some degree, but doesnt explain Pitts ability to precog the crimes date and outcome (Also, since that job was finished, there would be no issue of availability?)
Of course, when a theory is added to the script to explain the plot hole, rather than something that's inherent in the script (that is, you've come up with a plausible excuse for the plot hole by assuming things not spelt out by the film) then its still not off the hook IMO.... :)
I suppose I could see if theres a directors commentary, but that would suck even more of my soul away....best to let sleeping films lie.
I just happened to watch OCEAN'S 11 again last night, and I was wrong about Pitt acting on the fly when he impersonated the detective - he had fake ID with him. But I was right about the "problem with availability" thing.
But, y'know, it's probably not important. ;)
Link: The Andy Diggle Forum
Unless he always carries fake ID with him! :)
Point.